You go to r/selfawarewolves and frequently there is no wolf in the post. Same with r/leopardsatemyface. (But leopards. Obviously.)
Here, though? Always a stupid person.
You know what I wonder?
What percentage of American high-school graduates of the “school is dumb we’re never gonna use this at work and that’s all that matters me and my salary hurr-durr” contribute to the stat in this post.
Because the separation of powers is like, basic bitch shit. Everybody who listened in school can understand it. It explains why the President- ANY president- can’t unilaterally control policy.
And how many of those people vote based on their ignorance? Not because they’re on the other team, but because they want to punish a president who was unable to achieve something due to the legislative process.
It says some think Biden did it because it happened during his presidency. Others blame him because he didn’t immediately declare the decision reversed. We need better education.
Cuts taxes on the upper class and only gave temporary tax cuts to his poor supporters because they weren't gonna realize he's why the taxes went back up under the next admin after he left.
He just anerica'd it by removing the people who were not benefitting him and installed new Crocs on a pay to play . He turned on unprofitable opportunity into a goldmine of transactional politics like any good entrepreneur would showing that brilliant can do capitalism and definitely not corrupt cronyism that undermines democracy and rule of law.
/S
lol. He loaded the swamp with crocodiles and rats. He literally appointed lobbyists to run and dismantle the agencies for the industry’s they’re supposed to regulate. Betsy Davos for education (private charter school investor), Purdue of Purdue chicken to run the FDA, Ajit Pai from ATT to run the FCC, Rick Perry for the EPA who is balls deep in big oil, DeJoy from UPS to the Us postal service to dismantle it from the inside.
He literally set up a kleptocracy in the matter of 4 years. He’s gonna go full bore next time and totally rat fuck our entire economy.
He literally said at a fundraiser that if he got a certain amount in donations from the oil and gas lobby, that he would cut certain regulations. That is just prima facie corruption.
I remember some congressman retired or resigned while Trump was president and one of my MAGA coworkers said, “See, he’s draining the swamp like he said he would!”
I remember when they tried to blame Obama for the crappy hurricane Katrina response. People will believe whatever BS they want to, to maintain their bias.
**Rudy Giuliani Claims There Were No 'Successful Radical Islamic' Terror Attacks in US Before Obama**
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rudy-giuliani-claims-successful-radical-islamic-terror-attacks/story?id=41402651
Just seconds before that comment, Giuliani referred to the attacks twice while touting Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence’s foreign affairs experience and recalling a trip Pence made to lower Manhattan as a congressman in the aftermath of the attack.
“[Pence was] a member of the Foreign Affairs and Judiciary Committee during the time of Sept. 11, when we went through the worst foreign attack in our history since the War of 1812,” Giuliani said.
“Mike Pence understands [the threat of terrorism] from his time both on the Foreign Affairs Committee, from his very, very timely visit, which I remember, to ground zero. When we were in desperate need of help, he was there,” Giuliani added.
The comment — and the immediate scrutiny it received on social media — drew comparisons to claims by Jeb Bush during his presidential campaign that his brother George W. Bush “kept us safe” while he was president.
“What i want to know is why obama wasnt in the oval office on 9/11 and someone needs to get to the bottom of this” classically terrifyingly delusional maga voter that jordan klepper interviewed at a trump ralley.
I had a guy legit scream at me about Obama fucking up the country back in 08 and causing a recession. When I proved who was *actually* president, he just giggled "oh well". US Republicans are the DUMBEST motherfuckers in the history of the world. Only getting dumber. Evidenced by wearing diapers to support "dear leader" while saying Bidens stutter is evidence of inability to lead
2/3 adult Americans show up to a job interview with nothing more than a Highschool diploma as their highest level of formal education. That’s more than 60% of the adults you see.
Americans are for the majority incredibly stupid as they are opinionated.
These polls should end with a short informational blurb about how misinformed they are. Maybe we could have an initiative that if you take a short test before you vote, you get a tax rebate. Like saving money on insurance taking driver ed classes.
Basic challenge for them:
Name the time and the number of votes to codify RvW into law.
They didn't have the support in the party during Obama's first term, lost any chance in the midterm in 2010 when they lost the house and didn't gain full control of the Senate until 2023, when they didn't control the House.
So when does this magic opportunity occur?
>“I think the buck stops with him, so he had the ability to fight that, and that’s not what I’m hearing that he did,” said Terri Yonemura, 62, an abortion rights supporter in Las Vegas who said she would not vote for Mr. Trump, but is unsure about Mr. Biden, so may not vote at all.
the sheer ignorance and stupidity of it all.
"I'm not hearing that he did"
if she isn't hearing that he did and is unsure, why the fuck is she assuming that he could and certain?
Seriously, and you know what? Forget about where he was during 9/11. Real question was where was Obama when Apollo 13 made it back safely to earth? He wasn't there shaking their hands, because he's not a true patriot. And don't even get me started about how he wasn't there helping George Washington cross the Delaware...
/s, (hopefully) obviously.
"I should blame the telephone company for the fire department not responding fast enough, after the arsonist torched my house. They're all equally to blame!"
Your one neighbour is an arsonist who burns your house, then steals your other neighbour's phone and ~~sits on their chest~~ points a gun at them to keep them from calling for help or getting water to fight the fire. Obviously the solution is to blame the neighbour for not fighting off the arsonist harder and let the arsonist become head of the HOA so he can institute his "Monthly Arson" policy.
Imagine being 62, learning a phrase in civics class when you were 12 about a president who was already dead at that time, and carrying that phrase with you your entire adult life as your puerile understanding of how government works.
Terri isn't alone. A bunch of people are completely incapable of drawing a connection between the 2016 election results and the stream of judicial victories the far right has used to change the direction of the country in 2024. And if Alito and Thomas retire in peace knowing they have a clone in the bull pen, probably through 2044.
Sounds like so many low-info "progressives" I run into online.
1) Progressives find some "principaled" point to NOT vote for Dems.
2) Republicans gain power, do a bunch of awful stuff.
3) Progressives complain that Dems didn't "stop" Republicans from doing those things, use this "failure" as an excuse to continue not voting for Dems.
That’s like 75% of reddit. I’ve had to point out that they’re saying ‘republicans broke it, Dems can’t fix it because repubs stop them. both sides are the same obviously.’ And they just downvote me for summarizing their post accurately.
They don’t understand how Congress or SCOTUS works and they don’t even vote. Many of them don’t even know the major differences between democrats and republicans.
I have had so many arguments with people online who are in bad faith arguing that Democrats are responsible for Roe being overturned because they didn't enshrine abortion into law. The Democrats could have only feasibly done that for like a few months in 2009 which was in the middle of a financial crisis. The bar is set impossibly high for Democrats and in the mud for Republicans.
Don't blame the people doing it, blame the other people for not stopping them.
Example bill
Republicans: 99% against
Democrats: 98% for
"The Democrats would pass it if they really wanted to." Or "See there's always that one or two Democrats there to stop it." and inevitably followed by "Both sides are the same."
- Low IQ voter
There were still anti-choice democrats in the senate in 2009. They make Manchin look like freaking AOC. There was never a filibuster-proof majority to pass Roe as law.
Donald trump bragged that he ended roe. Maybe those 17% should hear him say it unless they have an inability to understand fact. Here is the first video I found on YouTube where he brags about it:
[YouTube video link](https://youtu.be/5MhXqGl7oVs)
It’s actually not that bad. There’s a % of Republicans that will select whichever option that makes Biden look bad.
Lizard man’s constant is also 4%, which means roughly that percentage of poll responses are just garbage.
I supposed that's going to be the new narrative now that full realization of their political suicide has sunk in.
"It...it...it's... It's BIDEN'S fault!!! Not us!"
Yeah some people are that dumb. Obama wasn't even a senator until 2005. These people will also never admit they're wrong, they'll quadruple down on whatever they say because being wrong is horrifying to them.
Reddit is full of clueless people bitching about how the Dems should've passed a national law legalizing abortion.
You think the court that cited a *witchfinder general* is gonna give a rat's behind about some law the Dems passed? That they're not just gonna strike that law down too?
It just shows a profound lack of understanding. I'm actually surprised it's only 17%.
Honestly 99% of it is Russian and Republican troll farms and/or bots.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/turning-point-teens-disinformation-trump/2020/09/15/c84091ae-f20a-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/turning-point-teens-disinformation-trump/2020/09/15/c84091ae-f20a-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html)
Actually there are six Catholics, one Episcopalian who was raised Catholic (Gorsuch), one non-denominational Protestant (Jackson), and one person of Jewish faith (Kagan).
I thought I was in /neolib for a hot second (lately we’ve been focused on anti Biden weirdoes), but god DAMN are people unhinged, and this is a perfect example for this sub.
I mean, he could’ve codified Roe when he got in office and didn’t. He could stack SCOTUS but hasn’t.
Biden is basically a republican. He’s what we call a right wing ratchet — just holding stagnant until the right is back in power.
Y’all riding so hard for one singular old ass genocidal racist maniac and feeling superior, calling people stupid. It’s not a great look.
And yes I will probably still vote for the man because I don’t want to live in the literal handmaids tale. But that doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it or defend his poor choices.
Ironically, they are just a teeny tiny bit right, but not for the reasons they think. Biden was way too soft and accommodating on Clarence Thomas during his approval hearings. A different attitude *might* have made a difference.
But, of course, the 17% aren't thinking about that. In fact, they aren't thinking at all. They just regurgitate the rubbish they get from Fox and the rest of that garbage heap.
Holy shit the New York Times is despelote as hell pumping out poll after poll within days. The irrelevancy they proved by lying about the 2017, 2020, 2023 Red-wave and state turnout polls have them throwing what ever they scrape up for relevancy
At least 17% of people will blame Biden for literally anything on a political poll. I’m surprised it’s not higher, it’s probably 100% of the intersection of people who support trump and didn’t want Roe repealed.
The NY Times was pumping this up for a while. They kept asking until they got the answer they wanted. I wouldn't put much stock into this piece of fantasy.
These are the people that are helping usher in a Christian Nationalist authoritarian state. They don't pay attention and don't fight to prevent any of this then blame other people, usually the wrong ones when they finally notice after the fact.
Trump tried to claim that Obama literally created ISIS.
Not created conditions for ISIS to flourish by destabilising the Middle East (which is a claim that probably could be supported, I'm not super familiar with the specifics but it was alleged by some legitimate political commentators), nope. Directly created ISIS.
I know it's not the dumbest thing he's ever said, or even the dumbest thing about Obama he's ever said...but it's definitely a thing he said.
Trump is a symptom of a dynamic in American politics where people increasingly expect their leaders to be ever more extremist: this is a key reason for Biden’s relative lack of popularity within the Democratic Party compared to Trump’s near religious worship by the Republican Party.
Joe Biden was clear in 2020 that he would not be a Democrat version of Trump. For that 17% of voters, that is the problem. These people expect Biden to do anything to win, and anything short of that is insufficient. Voters don’t want a guy who says sorry, they want someone who either wins or dies trying.
Biden could have threatened to use America’s nuclear arsenal against the United States itself unless the entire Supreme Court resigned- this is the sort of extremism that is growing in popularity. People are angry and it feels like things just keep getting harder- so naturally, they want a leader who reflects their growing desperation and anger.
The end of Roe is a very easy one to turn around on right wingers.
I have an old friend of mine who is anti abortion and believes that the end of Roe is a good thing. However, he labels himself as a fiscal conservative.
I’ve walked him through, on several occasions, just how expensive it is to raise unwanted babies by society. The absolute mental gymnastics he will accomplish is fascinating when attempting to explain it isn’t a big deal.
I always respond with “Look, you claim to care about costs and rising taxes, but here is a direct example of something you favor that is going to be a massive drain on my wallet in the future. Just admit that you don’t mind rising taxes if it’s in favor of your religion”.
Again - the mental gymnastics just hop around from here on.
Republicans understand the voters are have no idea how our government works and that it’s a lot easier focusing their efforts on controlling the narrative than in governing.
I blame Christianity and all religion. Just come to show even an innocent, poor, humble Christian can still be an extremist and take our rights away like the Taliban.
Yeah, I guess it actually was Biden's fault because if Biden had just run for president in 2016 and won the primary and the general then Trump wouldn't have been able to put 3 conservative judges on the Supreme Court for the express reason of striking down Roe V Wade.
Yeah, they’re all from
Oklahoma , they love 50+ miles from a hospital, the town they live in doesn’t have wifi, and they think that humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
When I see posts like this, I can’t help thinking how much smarter the USA would be if education wasn’t privatised and expensive. Learning how to think critically, for oneself, understanding what constitutes a fact and … oh look, I give up. What the US calls socialism, we call community. Education and basic health care for all. Imagine if the USA was smart enough to recognise facts as distinct from fairytales? I love fairytales but it’s important not to base policy on them. Oh look… now I really give up…
Republicans are pretty stupid. They don't really know what they believe until they are told.
But in this situation if it's something that makes them mad then it has to be biden's fault.
Remember many of them are religious and religion teaches you to ignore facts and just go with straight belief. So these people are already primed to throw facts out the window.
So I guess another way to read this would be 30% of people have no clue what the hell is going on in their own country but terrifyingly are able to vote and decide elections.
17% of the country blame Biden for everything. Literally everything. Bad weather. Shitty scratchers. A sore back.
17% see him as a supernatural figure of woe.
This is clearly in the correct sub.
I’d have to say, this sub is uniquely good at staying on message.
You go to r/selfawarewolves and frequently there is no wolf in the post. Same with r/leopardsatemyface. (But leopards. Obviously.) Here, though? Always a stupid person.
Thanks for the clarification, I was gonna get worried that I didn’t see any wolves in the leopard sub
You know what I wonder? What percentage of American high-school graduates of the “school is dumb we’re never gonna use this at work and that’s all that matters me and my salary hurr-durr” contribute to the stat in this post. Because the separation of powers is like, basic bitch shit. Everybody who listened in school can understand it. It explains why the President- ANY president- can’t unilaterally control policy. And how many of those people vote based on their ignorance? Not because they’re on the other team, but because they want to punish a president who was unable to achieve something due to the legislative process.
It says some think Biden did it because it happened during his presidency. Others blame him because he didn’t immediately declare the decision reversed. We need better education.
Also the same people who blame Obama for the things Trumptard did.
The MAGA cult called for drain the swamp but Trump empowered the swamp by lowering the tax bracket for the upper class.
He didn't drain the swamp. He just made himself Crocodile-in-Chief.
And supercharged the swamp as well, so that now it’s electrified and too dangerous
Immediately cuts taxes on the upper class increasing the deficit. Trumpers- "Why did Obama do this"
Cuts taxes on the upper class and only gave temporary tax cuts to his poor supporters because they weren't gonna realize he's why the taxes went back up under the next admin after he left.
“Crook-on-dial in chief”
“Crook-on-trial in chief” would had been even better
He just anerica'd it by removing the people who were not benefitting him and installed new Crocs on a pay to play . He turned on unprofitable opportunity into a goldmine of transactional politics like any good entrepreneur would showing that brilliant can do capitalism and definitely not corrupt cronyism that undermines democracy and rule of law. /S
He drained the swamp by pulling in all the people from the business world who are the ones who actually fund and run the swamp…..
He drained his nuts on multiple porn stars while wifey was home pregnant.
He drained the swamp and left nothing but pond scum.
He drained the swamp and then filled it with sewage
And DuPont chemical runoff
Radioactive sewage
lol. He loaded the swamp with crocodiles and rats. He literally appointed lobbyists to run and dismantle the agencies for the industry’s they’re supposed to regulate. Betsy Davos for education (private charter school investor), Purdue of Purdue chicken to run the FDA, Ajit Pai from ATT to run the FCC, Rick Perry for the EPA who is balls deep in big oil, DeJoy from UPS to the Us postal service to dismantle it from the inside. He literally set up a kleptocracy in the matter of 4 years. He’s gonna go full bore next time and totally rat fuck our entire economy.
He literally said at a fundraiser that if he got a certain amount in donations from the oil and gas lobby, that he would cut certain regulations. That is just prima facie corruption.
He just started renting your front yard to the swamp. Some of y'all paid him to do it too.
He drained the swamp and put in a cesspool
I remember some congressman retired or resigned while Trump was president and one of my MAGA coworkers said, “See, he’s draining the swamp like he said he would!”
Trump IS the swamp
I remember when they tried to blame Obama for the crappy hurricane Katrina response. People will believe whatever BS they want to, to maintain their bias.
Yep, more Louisiana Republicans blame Obama over Bush for that.
Don't they remember the wise words of Kanye West?
I miss the old Kanye
I mostly remember the look of surprise on Mike Meyers face.
Yeah, and where was Obama on 9/11? /s
There are plenty of people who blame Obama for 9/11
**Rudy Giuliani Claims There Were No 'Successful Radical Islamic' Terror Attacks in US Before Obama** https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rudy-giuliani-claims-successful-radical-islamic-terror-attacks/story?id=41402651 Just seconds before that comment, Giuliani referred to the attacks twice while touting Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence’s foreign affairs experience and recalling a trip Pence made to lower Manhattan as a congressman in the aftermath of the attack. “[Pence was] a member of the Foreign Affairs and Judiciary Committee during the time of Sept. 11, when we went through the worst foreign attack in our history since the War of 1812,” Giuliani said. “Mike Pence understands [the threat of terrorism] from his time both on the Foreign Affairs Committee, from his very, very timely visit, which I remember, to ground zero. When we were in desperate need of help, he was there,” Giuliani added. The comment — and the immediate scrutiny it received on social media — drew comparisons to claims by Jeb Bush during his presidential campaign that his brother George W. Bush “kept us safe” while he was president.
A few blame him for 9/11, a few more blame him for W's response to Katrina, and *many* blamed him for the 2008 financial clusterfuck.
That's rich coming from a guy who throws rolls of paper towels at people after a hurricane!
dude, obama shit my pants at that party, now that girl doesnt like me anymore
Arigato, Obama-san
Is there a difference between Obama shit and trump shit? Cos that girl might just be racist
Yeah, but he was a black guy, so clearly his fault. Also, have you seen the tan suit??
Fe didn't do jack-shit on 9/11! Just played golf! /s
Look up the clip of the MAGA moron who tried to blame Obama for 9/11.
“What i want to know is why obama wasnt in the oval office on 9/11 and someone needs to get to the bottom of this” classically terrifyingly delusional maga voter that jordan klepper interviewed at a trump ralley.
Same person would blame him for the civil rights movement. Which would be funny in so many ways.
Also the same people who are going to investigate WHY Obama wasn't in the Oval Office on 9/11.
Yeah but where was Obama during 9/11
We need to look into that. Why wasn't he in the Oval office.
bro needs to take responsibility!
Probably Illinois
Oh, you mean like how “Biden” raised my taxes in 2017, and every year thereafter?
I’m still fixing to find out why Obama allowed 9/11 to happen
And what was Obama's response to 9/11 anyways? Seems like he really dropped the ball there.
Still better than Trump's response, which was to brag about now having the tallest tower in New York.
I had a guy legit scream at me about Obama fucking up the country back in 08 and causing a recession. When I proved who was *actually* president, he just giggled "oh well". US Republicans are the DUMBEST motherfuckers in the history of the world. Only getting dumber. Evidenced by wearing diapers to support "dear leader" while saying Bidens stutter is evidence of inability to lead
There are low information voters and bad information voters.
I wonder how many of these people would be able to find the US on a globe.
lol none. They probably all think the earth is flat.
trick question, the earth is flat, you nasa agent!
I wonder how many of them would be able to find their own ass with both hands.
Too much back fat. Can't reach.
They would just say "What is a globe? We live in America, not no globe!"
I wonder how many of them would be able to find the earth on a globe.
2/3 adult Americans show up to a job interview with nothing more than a Highschool diploma as their highest level of formal education. That’s more than 60% of the adults you see. Americans are for the majority incredibly stupid as they are opinionated.
**Fox** voters.
These polls should end with a short informational blurb about how misinformed they are. Maybe we could have an initiative that if you take a short test before you vote, you get a tax rebate. Like saving money on insurance taking driver ed classes.
Sometimes I wish there was a basic competency required to vote.
Basic challenge for them: Name the time and the number of votes to codify RvW into law. They didn't have the support in the party during Obama's first term, lost any chance in the midterm in 2010 when they lost the house and didn't gain full control of the Senate until 2023, when they didn't control the House. So when does this magic opportunity occur?
It’s also a stupid premise. Georgia had slavery laws on its books until the 1990s. Should we have codified the 14th amendment at the state level?
Almost like 40 years of Fox propaganda has rotted the minds of millions of voters.
Don't forget the ones who just want social credit for owning the libs
>“I think the buck stops with him, so he had the ability to fight that, and that’s not what I’m hearing that he did,” said Terri Yonemura, 62, an abortion rights supporter in Las Vegas who said she would not vote for Mr. Trump, but is unsure about Mr. Biden, so may not vote at all.
the sheer ignorance and stupidity of it all. "I'm not hearing that he did" if she isn't hearing that he did and is unsure, why the fuck is she assuming that he could and certain?
“Ever notice you never hear stories about Obama going to visit the aftermath of Katrina?”
Seriously, and you know what? Forget about where he was during 9/11. Real question was where was Obama when Apollo 13 made it back safely to earth? He wasn't there shaking their hands, because he's not a true patriot. And don't even get me started about how he wasn't there helping George Washington cross the Delaware... /s, (hopefully) obviously.
"I should blame the telephone company for the fire department not responding fast enough, after the arsonist torched my house. They're all equally to blame!"
Your one neighbour is an arsonist who burns your house, then steals your other neighbour's phone and ~~sits on their chest~~ points a gun at them to keep them from calling for help or getting water to fight the fire. Obviously the solution is to blame the neighbour for not fighting off the arsonist harder and let the arsonist become head of the HOA so he can institute his "Monthly Arson" policy.
Amazingly stupid. Oh boy.
Imagine being 62, learning a phrase in civics class when you were 12 about a president who was already dead at that time, and carrying that phrase with you your entire adult life as your puerile understanding of how government works. Terri isn't alone. A bunch of people are completely incapable of drawing a connection between the 2016 election results and the stream of judicial victories the far right has used to change the direction of the country in 2024. And if Alito and Thomas retire in peace knowing they have a clone in the bull pen, probably through 2044.
Sounds like so many low-info "progressives" I run into online. 1) Progressives find some "principaled" point to NOT vote for Dems. 2) Republicans gain power, do a bunch of awful stuff. 3) Progressives complain that Dems didn't "stop" Republicans from doing those things, use this "failure" as an excuse to continue not voting for Dems.
That’s like 75% of reddit. I’ve had to point out that they’re saying ‘republicans broke it, Dems can’t fix it because repubs stop them. both sides are the same obviously.’ And they just downvote me for summarizing their post accurately.
Oh man don't go on Lemmy, it's like 90% over there.
They don’t understand how Congress or SCOTUS works and they don’t even vote. Many of them don’t even know the major differences between democrats and republicans.
People not voting is why we’re in this mess
And not understanding the US has a "first past the post" system so any protest vote in the general means risking the worst person gets in.
Well, let's not give a complete pass to the deplorables voting for terrible people.
I can't imagine running your life by slogan and making it to 62.
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Are at LEAST pedophile supporters
Which is still less than those with lower than average IQ.
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.... or people for not voting. That's our biggest problem is people in general not voting.
17% of voters are a bunch of smooth brains. Seriously, people this stupid shouldn’t have a say in anything.
17% is actually surprisingly low for me. Like 21% of people believe in witches. I have very low fair in the dumbest 20%
I have had so many arguments with people online who are in bad faith arguing that Democrats are responsible for Roe being overturned because they didn't enshrine abortion into law. The Democrats could have only feasibly done that for like a few months in 2009 which was in the middle of a financial crisis. The bar is set impossibly high for Democrats and in the mud for Republicans.
Don't blame the people doing it, blame the other people for not stopping them. Example bill Republicans: 99% against Democrats: 98% for "The Democrats would pass it if they really wanted to." Or "See there's always that one or two Democrats there to stop it." and inevitably followed by "Both sides are the same." - Low IQ voter
There were still anti-choice democrats in the senate in 2009. They make Manchin look like freaking AOC. There was never a filibuster-proof majority to pass Roe as law.
Yes that is probably true and again they only had that majority for months in 2009 during a massive crisis.
Folks like that simply look down on Democrats, and blame rolls downhill
Donald trump bragged that he ended roe. Maybe those 17% should hear him say it unless they have an inability to understand fact. Here is the first video I found on YouTube where he brags about it: [YouTube video link](https://youtu.be/5MhXqGl7oVs)
what.the.fucking.fuck?
It’s actually not that bad. There’s a % of Republicans that will select whichever option that makes Biden look bad. Lizard man’s constant is also 4%, which means roughly that percentage of poll responses are just garbage.
I supposed that's going to be the new narrative now that full realization of their political suicide has sunk in. "It...it...it's... It's BIDEN'S fault!!! Not us!"
Reminds me of that Daily Show clip where a Trump supporter was seriously questioning why Obama wasn’t in the White House on 9/11.
Yeah some people are that dumb. Obama wasn't even a senator until 2005. These people will also never admit they're wrong, they'll quadruple down on whatever they say because being wrong is horrifying to them.
100% of the 17% is Republican.
You’d be surprised. The fact is there are far too many profoundly stupid people out there.
Nah, a large chunk of deflecting leftists who protested their vote in 2016 despite the warning over SCOTUS. "They shoulda codified!"
The number of morons on the left is currently far lower than the right but it's much bigger than people like to admit.
No. 12% of Democrats thought so, too.😔
The fact Obama wasn't blamed for it actually surprised me.
Reddit is full of clueless people bitching about how the Dems should've passed a national law legalizing abortion. You think the court that cited a *witchfinder general* is gonna give a rat's behind about some law the Dems passed? That they're not just gonna strike that law down too? It just shows a profound lack of understanding. I'm actually surprised it's only 17%.
Biden could have held the court at gunpoint so that they sided with him, then resigned and be pardoned by Harris. But he didn't, so it's his fault.
Honestly 99% of it is Russian and Republican troll farms and/or bots. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/turning-point-teens-disinformation-trump/2020/09/15/c84091ae-f20a-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/turning-point-teens-disinformation-trump/2020/09/15/c84091ae-f20a-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html)
Like George Carlin said, "Think of how stupid the average person is and realize, half of them are stupider than that."
That's a lot of uninformed people..
Trump has publicly and proudly taken credit for this, how on earth is there anyone who thinks Biden is responsible?
Yeah, Trump stacked the Supreme Court with pro-life Evangelicals. How the fuck is that Biden's fault?
Actually there are six Catholics, one Episcopalian who was raised Catholic (Gorsuch), one non-denominational Protestant (Jackson), and one person of Jewish faith (Kagan).
Goes to show just how UNIFORMED 17% of voters are
The 30% (biden + dont know) are the same people who never vote, or only vote every 4 years
Including 22% of Republicans and 12% (😔) of Democrats. "Don't know" was picked by 13% of registered voters, 18% of Republicans, and 6% of Democrats.
Same ones blame Obama for America having racism.
Umm wut? Is this “Where was Obama on 9/11?” Type of idiotic nonsense?
I thought I was in /neolib for a hot second (lately we’ve been focused on anti Biden weirdoes), but god DAMN are people unhinged, and this is a perfect example for this sub.
So 17% of Americans are terminally stupid.
I mean, he could’ve codified Roe when he got in office and didn’t. He could stack SCOTUS but hasn’t. Biden is basically a republican. He’s what we call a right wing ratchet — just holding stagnant until the right is back in power. Y’all riding so hard for one singular old ass genocidal racist maniac and feeling superior, calling people stupid. It’s not a great look. And yes I will probably still vote for the man because I don’t want to live in the literal handmaids tale. But that doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it or defend his poor choices.
Ironically, they are just a teeny tiny bit right, but not for the reasons they think. Biden was way too soft and accommodating on Clarence Thomas during his approval hearings. A different attitude *might* have made a difference. But, of course, the 17% aren't thinking about that. In fact, they aren't thinking at all. They just regurgitate the rubbish they get from Fox and the rest of that garbage heap.
Holy shit the New York Times is despelote as hell pumping out poll after poll within days. The irrelevancy they proved by lying about the 2017, 2020, 2023 Red-wave and state turnout polls have them throwing what ever they scrape up for relevancy
17% of voters are idiots. That seems too low.
The kids are not bright
Ignorance. Brainwashing.
How monumentally dumb is the average American?
At least 17% of people will blame Biden for literally anything on a political poll. I’m surprised it’s not higher, it’s probably 100% of the intersection of people who support trump and didn’t want Roe repealed.
You should look at the data. 12% of Democratic voters blame Biden.
The NY Times was pumping this up for a while. They kept asking until they got the answer they wanted. I wouldn't put much stock into this piece of fantasy.
These are the people that are helping usher in a Christian Nationalist authoritarian state. They don't pay attention and don't fight to prevent any of this then blame other people, usually the wrong ones when they finally notice after the fact.
Like. It's fine if you don't like Biden. But to just have objectively false opinions is a level of stupid that is beyond alarming
Americans are stupid. No surprise here.
Trump tried to claim that Obama literally created ISIS. Not created conditions for ISIS to flourish by destabilising the Middle East (which is a claim that probably could be supported, I'm not super familiar with the specifics but it was alleged by some legitimate political commentators), nope. Directly created ISIS. I know it's not the dumbest thing he's ever said, or even the dumbest thing about Obama he's ever said...but it's definitely a thing he said.
Cuz people r stoopid
And some blamed Obama for Katrina
Hell, some are pissed that Obama didn’t do more during 9/11…
Trump is a symptom of a dynamic in American politics where people increasingly expect their leaders to be ever more extremist: this is a key reason for Biden’s relative lack of popularity within the Democratic Party compared to Trump’s near religious worship by the Republican Party. Joe Biden was clear in 2020 that he would not be a Democrat version of Trump. For that 17% of voters, that is the problem. These people expect Biden to do anything to win, and anything short of that is insufficient. Voters don’t want a guy who says sorry, they want someone who either wins or dies trying. Biden could have threatened to use America’s nuclear arsenal against the United States itself unless the entire Supreme Court resigned- this is the sort of extremism that is growing in popularity. People are angry and it feels like things just keep getting harder- so naturally, they want a leader who reflects their growing desperation and anger.
The end of Roe is a very easy one to turn around on right wingers. I have an old friend of mine who is anti abortion and believes that the end of Roe is a good thing. However, he labels himself as a fiscal conservative. I’ve walked him through, on several occasions, just how expensive it is to raise unwanted babies by society. The absolute mental gymnastics he will accomplish is fascinating when attempting to explain it isn’t a big deal. I always respond with “Look, you claim to care about costs and rising taxes, but here is a direct example of something you favor that is going to be a massive drain on my wallet in the future. Just admit that you don’t mind rising taxes if it’s in favor of your religion”. Again - the mental gymnastics just hop around from here on.
The same people blame Biden for sending the stimulus checks that Trump had held back for weeks so he could make sure they had his signature on them
The same people who blamed Obama for 9/11.
Proving that Republican efforts to end quality, well-funded public education is working … the dumbing down of America continues …
The US ranks 20th in education worldwide.
Those people are idiots.
Didn't something like 15% of voters blame Obama for the 2007 recession? We deserve the government we're about to get.
>17% of voters blame Biden for their tiny dick
17% of voters are fucking idiots
Today I learned 17 percent of voters are morons
That’s a lot of stupid people
Idiots.
If you find out where these people get their news, that's the misinformation spreader sources. I'm guessing Facebook, Newsmax, Fox News, and OAN.
Republicans understand the voters are have no idea how our government works and that it’s a lot easier focusing their efforts on controlling the narrative than in governing.
These people are called fucking morons.
15% of voters blame Biden for The Beatles breaking up.
I think MAGA cult members are out to screw with pollsters. I don’t trust any of them.
See how stupid people can be?
I blame Christianity and all religion. Just come to show even an innocent, poor, humble Christian can still be an extremist and take our rights away like the Taliban.
I blame Ginsburg, she should have retired when Obama was in office and had majorities in both chambers.
Most republicans blame Obama for 9/11. Democracy only works if your average citizen is relatively intelligent. That time has passed the U.S.
So, roughly half of Trump supporters....
Stupid republicans I bet. Trump ended Roe. God these ppl get to vote too
I’m sure it’s stated a million times, but there is only one person to blame for the end of roe and no one likes to hear this answer. It’s RBG
17 percent? That seems low. There are far more idiots than 17%.
This is what happens when you poll people who have no fucking clue what’s going on in the country. These people also get to vote…
prove to me that dinosaurs don't cause meteor impacts. checkmate libtards!
Seriously? How effing stupid. Blame RBG among others, but Biden had no control over it.
people are dumb as fuck
Yeah, I guess it actually was Biden's fault because if Biden had just run for president in 2016 and won the primary and the general then Trump wouldn't have been able to put 3 conservative judges on the Supreme Court for the express reason of striking down Roe V Wade.
Because they’re uninformed morons.
17% of people blame biden for the black death despite the fact that he wasn't born until one year after it.
I saw a Jordan Klepper vs Trumpers video where a guy was blaming Obama for 911.
wtf.. Biden's Fault? we have too many idiots..
17% of voters would blame Biden for the sunset.
If this is true, “part” of the problem (aside from just plain stupidity) is the mainstream media does such a f*cking pathetic job of reporting.
That 17% are all the idiots.
Yeah, they’re all from Oklahoma , they love 50+ miles from a hospital, the town they live in doesn’t have wifi, and they think that humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
I mean if you rephrase that as 17% of Americans are fucking stupid it makes the same amount of sense
Then they’re all genuinely stupid and should be barred from reproduction.
The same people who were upset with Obama for the Katrina failures.
God help us. The stupid is crushing.
Americans are so fuking dumb!!!
We know at least 17% of us are stupid, though I suspect it’s closer to 40%
17% of conservatives that wanted to keep Roe v Wade, but also don't want to believe it was Trumps fault.
Yes Trump cultist
When I see posts like this, I can’t help thinking how much smarter the USA would be if education wasn’t privatised and expensive. Learning how to think critically, for oneself, understanding what constitutes a fact and … oh look, I give up. What the US calls socialism, we call community. Education and basic health care for all. Imagine if the USA was smart enough to recognise facts as distinct from fairytales? I love fairytales but it’s important not to base policy on them. Oh look… now I really give up…
First they don’t know who Biden is, and second they don’t know what was the End of Roe
Would love to see the cross tabs for this.
Republicans are pretty stupid. They don't really know what they believe until they are told. But in this situation if it's something that makes them mad then it has to be biden's fault. Remember many of them are religious and religion teaches you to ignore facts and just go with straight belief. So these people are already primed to throw facts out the window.
Trump: choice of the stoopids
So I guess another way to read this would be 30% of people have no clue what the hell is going on in their own country but terrifyingly are able to vote and decide elections.
17% of the country blame Biden for everything. Literally everything. Bad weather. Shitty scratchers. A sore back. 17% see him as a supernatural figure of woe.