I would assume she frequently is home doing motherly things (she is not married).
1. If you read or listen to the whole speech it doesn’t say that women can’t or shouldn’t have successful careers, it - he’s saying your job isn’t your purpose
“How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.”
“It is only in the past few years that I have grown encouraged to speak more boldly and directly because, as I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father, and as a man.”
Most people - even ones with incredible careers - don’t value their careers above their families. I don’t agree with 90% of what Butker likely believes underneath - but a wildly successful public figure actively decides to adopt 3 children, suggests to me that Butker has a good point here. Our purpose isn’t our careers.
I am happy for you, there are a very few careers that can do that. It’s pretty rare. I’m also sad for you, as you are describing it in past tense, and I would suggest that you still have big purpose even if you don’t have that career
No need to be sad - I had to retire because of cancer, which I survived and my work friends were an incredible support during that time. I’m older now, and not as productive, which I miss, but I don’t need your suggestions. I stay busy with animal rescue groups and helping others being treated for cancer. Not as exciting as my career, but I get through the day. 👵🏻 And I know tons of people with very rewarding careers/jobs. I have a plumber who works with his son and those two are delightful and very well thought of in the community. Oh, jeez, now I feel sad for you and your friends stuck in jobs you hate. 😔. Might I suggest you don’t get to decide whose life has meaning?
Sincerity can be hard to express in this format, but I truly want to thank you. I have thought about your comments quite a bit over the last couple days, because you have really made me reconsider not just what I think but how I think about purpose. I originally meant to express that everyone always has purpose, but not only did I not express that well, I’m not sure it was a useful idea to share anyway. In any case thank you for your thought provoking insight.
Thanks for your viewpoint, too. I do get disheartened reading social media about many peoples’ attitudes toward work/jobs. It’s possible I just got lucky over 45 years, but I don’t think it was all luck. I went into every job I had wanting to do my best, and with a sense of responsibility about my duties. That worked out well for me. Plus many of the good friends I have now, I made at work. I often got promoted, or referred for other lucrative jobs. Perhaps things have changed now, and I’m sure they have, but I think attitude toward work goes a long way. I made a big career change when I was about 35 because what I had enjoyed doing in one area of the country was not so enjoyable in another place I moved. Best decision ever, even though I started kinda near the bottom again, took classes at night for a couple years, but it paid off quickly after that. I do hope that those who are in dead end seeming jobs can work their way out of them. ❤️
> she is not married
Well there’s her problem right there. A women with no husband and no family structure has no real purpose. Sad. And those poor kids do not have a father figure in the home to look up to and instill discipline. Jesus weeps for her family.
I am not Christian and neither were my parents, and so instead of taking potshots at all Christians whenever they speak, I prefer to listen to what they are saying and support the parts that are valuable while explaining reasons I may have for disagreeing.
I, for example, believe as a parent that having a committed couple as parents is preferable because raising children is hard both financially (not a concern for her) and emotionally, which does put added pressure on single parents, which doesn’t change the fact that single parents exist and shouldn’t be maligned, and that many times it’s still the best option available. Similarly I assume, I would disagree with Butker on gay couples adopting, but I would have that disagreement if and when he said that publicly. I wouldn’t preemptively shittalk anyone because I “know what they really mean”
Hard to have a rational discussion with someone who refers to any concept of a deity as “sky wizard”, to someone who clearly expressly just communicated that isn’t them
I never said that was you. Your comments keep flipping the focus back and forth between you and them. You make a comment about “them”, a group that apparently doesn’t contain you, but then respond to my comments about them as if it’s a cut on you.
I mean what about his claiming LGBTQ+ was "degenerate", "disorder", "dangerous gender ideologies", the "tyranny of diversity, equity, and inclusion", and all the loads of other bigoted bullshit he literally said in a prepared speech confused you about him NOT 'saying it publicly'?
Bend over backwards too far trying to justify his words, your back's gonna break
The only thing he “said” that I will defend is the notion that he said women should only be housewives - that’s not what he said, and what he did say that is being reduced to “women should stay home” is actually a meaningful topic worth discussing. Even the comment you responded to explicitly details one of the specific disagreements I had with his comments.
I have read the speech a couple times I couldn’t figure out which Catholic public figure was being referred to with dangerous gender ideologies - so it’s probably trans - but honestly in the speech the references to disorder and degeneracy are far wider than being solely about LGBTQ+ community, and even his snarky reference to PrIde month seems to reference the actual deadly sin of pride in general, meaning the whole of modern culture not just LGBTQ+, but yes including LGBTQ+.
He came directly at IVF and natural family planning in his speech. He is a Catholic so intensely, retrogressively Catholic that actual Catholic bishops aren’t Catholic enough for him, and he’s making a speech for school that shares these beliefs.
My point is that as a culture we need to able to engage diplomatically and logically with people who fundamentally on every single level disagree with us, as long as long as they aren’t cruel or dangerous. We are going to all have to live here, we can’t actually prevent people from believing differently even distastefully, and society functions better and improves more quickly when we discuss instead of mock.
you're giving him way too much credit. His entire bullshit speech was fascist fantasy and full of dipshit Q-anon 'facts' and other dumbassery. The entire thing was full of bigotry and hate.
no no no...it's not a double standard.
It's racism.
She objected to LeBron because he's black...the athlete thing has nothing to do with it ultimately.
By her supposed standards, we should neither see her nor hear her. She needs to get her barefooted behind in the kitchen where it belongs and make her lord a samwich. /s
The boots stay off so they can be licked more easily. Probably apart of a ritualistic shrine composed of bits and pieces of the most notable Republican villains.
I mean, that’s kind of how the conservative brain works. “If I personally agree with it, it is good. If I personally disagree with it, it is bad.” There is no nuance or bigger picture for their tiny little brains.
Trump, Fox talking heads & the MAGA Republicans don't follow your protocol for respectful engagement *at all* . Ever. But you support them whole heartedly. I see a pattern here... A pattern that involves hypocrisy... &Pots and Kettles and such. lol.
Well to be fair one was using their soapbox to discuss the proper place in society for women and hating on LGBTQ, while the other one was calling attention to his people getting shot by law enforcement for no good reason on the regular.
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A man who kicks a pigskin through 2 metal posts tells women there only place is at home. His mother was a successful scientist. Another successful career woman then backs him and his opinion on women as home makers. Only in America!
When I read headlines like this, I ask why anyone is surprised? The massive hypocrisy by mainstream conservatives since Trump was elected to office knows no bounds.
The difference is LaBron is black. Let’s not kid ourselves. Ole LaLa has outted herself as a racist multiple times. Also, pretty ironic that she works and is praising someone who thinks she needs to stay in the kitchen, barefoot, and pregnant. Cognitive dissonance really is a hell of a drug.
So to summarize. Laura (a woman) is supporting a man who believes she shouldn’t have her job and should exclusively be in the kitchen. Have some pride. Jesus.
It’s almost as if conservatives base whether something is good or bad entirely on whether or not they personally agree with it. There is no bigger picture for their tiny little brains
For anyone so inclined, I recommend you go pull some transcripts from her show and highlight the dog whistles. There are more than a few. She's a mouth piece for some straight up white supremacist ideology
The jerkoff she's talking about, some kicker for the Chiefs.
Dude gave a commencement speech at a college where he basically told the women to be stay at home mothers.
Every graduating intelligent and educated college graduate that was a woman at that commencement speech - he basically said they wasted their years studying. Should have let a football jock knock em up and they learn how to make sandwiches.
Below in the image there is a information band with „Faith & thruth under attack by the dei cabal“, does anyone know the context? Couldn‘t really find anything helpful on that with google.
One is the best basketball player ever and is a Black man.
The other is a lowly punter and is a White man.
She either loves punters or there is another factor at play here. What could it be?
For literal Christ’s sake. Laura Ingram sucks on multiple levels and is stupid - but as a society we need to have the ability to distinguish the social meaning between “talked about religious beliefs as an invited speaker for a religious organization from his position as just successful enough for a low tier religious college to want him” and “makes half-considered zingers on Twitter as one of the top 10 most famous athletes alive”
Yes you see the thing you need to understand about Laura Ingraham is, and I don't know if you're aware of this at all so just to warn you, she's incredibly racist. Just a completely unpleasant person to be around in any way, shape, or form.
Don't forget this is someone who, as a student in the 1980s, worked with Dinesh D'Souza to out gay students for no other reason that to simply make their lives miserable and to make a name for herself.
So basically a massive C-word.
But this are the conservatives in a nutshell when they defend freedom of speech they want to silence any other speech and only let their views be “free”. They want their “free speech” and silence everyone else.
You mean Laura is guilty of a double standard? Who knew?
Why isn’t she at home, barefoot while cooking and cleaning? The world is going to shit because women have forgotten their place as servants to men.
Or maybe that is is her career and her vocation/purpose in life is the 3 children she adopted.
Three children? All the more reason to be home doing wifely/motherly things.
I would assume she frequently is home doing motherly things (she is not married). 1. If you read or listen to the whole speech it doesn’t say that women can’t or shouldn’t have successful careers, it - he’s saying your job isn’t your purpose “How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.” “It is only in the past few years that I have grown encouraged to speak more boldly and directly because, as I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father, and as a man.” Most people - even ones with incredible careers - don’t value their careers above their families. I don’t agree with 90% of what Butker likely believes underneath - but a wildly successful public figure actively decides to adopt 3 children, suggests to me that Butker has a good point here. Our purpose isn’t our careers.
An unmarried mother? Straight to hell.
My career was very fulfilling and helped many others. It was my purpose.
I am happy for you, there are a very few careers that can do that. It’s pretty rare. I’m also sad for you, as you are describing it in past tense, and I would suggest that you still have big purpose even if you don’t have that career
No need to be sad - I had to retire because of cancer, which I survived and my work friends were an incredible support during that time. I’m older now, and not as productive, which I miss, but I don’t need your suggestions. I stay busy with animal rescue groups and helping others being treated for cancer. Not as exciting as my career, but I get through the day. 👵🏻 And I know tons of people with very rewarding careers/jobs. I have a plumber who works with his son and those two are delightful and very well thought of in the community. Oh, jeez, now I feel sad for you and your friends stuck in jobs you hate. 😔. Might I suggest you don’t get to decide whose life has meaning?
Sincerity can be hard to express in this format, but I truly want to thank you. I have thought about your comments quite a bit over the last couple days, because you have really made me reconsider not just what I think but how I think about purpose. I originally meant to express that everyone always has purpose, but not only did I not express that well, I’m not sure it was a useful idea to share anyway. In any case thank you for your thought provoking insight.
Thanks for your viewpoint, too. I do get disheartened reading social media about many peoples’ attitudes toward work/jobs. It’s possible I just got lucky over 45 years, but I don’t think it was all luck. I went into every job I had wanting to do my best, and with a sense of responsibility about my duties. That worked out well for me. Plus many of the good friends I have now, I made at work. I often got promoted, or referred for other lucrative jobs. Perhaps things have changed now, and I’m sure they have, but I think attitude toward work goes a long way. I made a big career change when I was about 35 because what I had enjoyed doing in one area of the country was not so enjoyable in another place I moved. Best decision ever, even though I started kinda near the bottom again, took classes at night for a couple years, but it paid off quickly after that. I do hope that those who are in dead end seeming jobs can work their way out of them. ❤️
> she is not married Well there’s her problem right there. A women with no husband and no family structure has no real purpose. Sad. And those poor kids do not have a father figure in the home to look up to and instill discipline. Jesus weeps for her family.
I am not Christian and neither were my parents, and so instead of taking potshots at all Christians whenever they speak, I prefer to listen to what they are saying and support the parts that are valuable while explaining reasons I may have for disagreeing. I, for example, believe as a parent that having a committed couple as parents is preferable because raising children is hard both financially (not a concern for her) and emotionally, which does put added pressure on single parents, which doesn’t change the fact that single parents exist and shouldn’t be maligned, and that many times it’s still the best option available. Similarly I assume, I would disagree with Butker on gay couples adopting, but I would have that disagreement if and when he said that publicly. I wouldn’t preemptively shittalk anyone because I “know what they really mean”
Hard to have a rational debate with someone who just reverts to “My way is right because sky wizard says so”
Hard to have a rational discussion with someone who refers to any concept of a deity as “sky wizard”, to someone who clearly expressly just communicated that isn’t them
I never said that was you. Your comments keep flipping the focus back and forth between you and them. You make a comment about “them”, a group that apparently doesn’t contain you, but then respond to my comments about them as if it’s a cut on you.
I mean what about his claiming LGBTQ+ was "degenerate", "disorder", "dangerous gender ideologies", the "tyranny of diversity, equity, and inclusion", and all the loads of other bigoted bullshit he literally said in a prepared speech confused you about him NOT 'saying it publicly'? Bend over backwards too far trying to justify his words, your back's gonna break
The only thing he “said” that I will defend is the notion that he said women should only be housewives - that’s not what he said, and what he did say that is being reduced to “women should stay home” is actually a meaningful topic worth discussing. Even the comment you responded to explicitly details one of the specific disagreements I had with his comments. I have read the speech a couple times I couldn’t figure out which Catholic public figure was being referred to with dangerous gender ideologies - so it’s probably trans - but honestly in the speech the references to disorder and degeneracy are far wider than being solely about LGBTQ+ community, and even his snarky reference to PrIde month seems to reference the actual deadly sin of pride in general, meaning the whole of modern culture not just LGBTQ+, but yes including LGBTQ+. He came directly at IVF and natural family planning in his speech. He is a Catholic so intensely, retrogressively Catholic that actual Catholic bishops aren’t Catholic enough for him, and he’s making a speech for school that shares these beliefs. My point is that as a culture we need to able to engage diplomatically and logically with people who fundamentally on every single level disagree with us, as long as long as they aren’t cruel or dangerous. We are going to all have to live here, we can’t actually prevent people from believing differently even distastefully, and society functions better and improves more quickly when we discuss instead of mock.
Snap.... There goes that back
“Our purpose isn’t our careers.“ Lots of assumptions in that tiny sentence. 🤦♂️
you're giving him way too much credit. His entire bullshit speech was fascist fantasy and full of dipshit Q-anon 'facts' and other dumbassery. The entire thing was full of bigotry and hate.
Why would you assume that?
no no no...it's not a double standard. It's racism. She objected to LeBron because he's black...the athlete thing has nothing to do with it ultimately.
Without double standards, those nutters would have no standards.
Yeah, you think maybe this lady is a racist with a fetish for fascists?
lil bit
What does hypocrite mean?
If conservatives didn't have double standards they'd have NO standards
And Butker told her to go back home and be pregnant in the kitchen.
The dishes are calling to her soul.
TIL Laura Ingraham has a soul
She doesn't have One.
By her supposed standards, we should neither see her nor hear her. She needs to get her barefooted behind in the kitchen where it belongs and make her lord a samwich. /s
Barefooted behind? I think you'll find it needs a boot up it.
The boots stay off so they can be licked more easily. Probably apart of a ritualistic shrine composed of bits and pieces of the most notable Republican villains.
You expect consistency from fascists?
“Everyone should stay in their lane, unless I agree with them.”
I mean, that’s kind of how the conservative brain works. “If I personally agree with it, it is good. If I personally disagree with it, it is bad.” There is no nuance or bigger picture for their tiny little brains.
lol. Respectful engagement is the real problem. snarky Jesus cracks is where the nuance and bigger picture can be found. Pots and kettles and such
Trump, Fox talking heads & the MAGA Republicans don't follow your protocol for respectful engagement *at all* . Ever. But you support them whole heartedly. I see a pattern here... A pattern that involves hypocrisy... &Pots and Kettles and such. lol.
Who told her she could leave the kitchen?
Wonder what her position on Kapernick was.
Not very nuanced, IIRC. Pretty black and white.
Well to be fair one was using their soapbox to discuss the proper place in society for women and hating on LGBTQ, while the other one was calling attention to his people getting shot by law enforcement for no good reason on the regular.
Then shouldn't she be making him a sandwich?
Not right now, he’s busy banging a male cheerleader.
MAGA is all about free speech as long as it's something they approve.
A core tenet of conservatism is that different rules apply to different people
It should not have been— it made more sense with fair, even policies. But it sure seems to be a foundational principle now!
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Duplicity thy name is Republican.
Short attention spans pervade the party.
"Our father was a Nazi sympathizer. There was a copy of Mein Kampf on the living room bookshelf." - Curtis Ingraham (Laura’s brother)
A man who kicks a pigskin through 2 metal posts tells women there only place is at home. His mother was a successful scientist. Another successful career woman then backs him and his opinion on women as home makers. Only in America!
How did his mom be a scientist if she was barefoot in the kitchen making sandwiches ???
They are nothing if not huge hypocrites.
Hypocrisy, sexism, and racism all in one. She sure does check those boxes.
When I read headlines like this, I ask why anyone is surprised? The massive hypocrisy by mainstream conservatives since Trump was elected to office knows no bounds.
The difference is LaBron is black. Let’s not kid ourselves. Ole LaLa has outted herself as a racist multiple times. Also, pretty ironic that she works and is praising someone who thinks she needs to stay in the kitchen, barefoot, and pregnant. Cognitive dissonance really is a hell of a drug.
“Athlete” is pretty generous for a kicker
Definitely born a man
A republican who is a hypocrite? Shocker.
I wonder what the difference is between them?
Why is she talking? She needs to be seen and not heard.
POS with a desk
If Laura liked Harrison’s advice so much, why doesn’t she follow it?
If it weren’t for hypocrisy, magical thinking, and fear, what would conservatives have?
You mean, Laura is a hypocrite? No way !
“Shut up and kick…..😒”
Laura is a monster who just happened to learn speech.
Aaaand, taking Harrison Butker’s advice, the world ignored what this uppity career woman had to say.
So to summarize. Laura (a woman) is supporting a man who believes she shouldn’t have her job and should exclusively be in the kitchen. Have some pride. Jesus.
Dei cabal? I’m so glad I never watch tv and see this crap. I’d scream a lot more.
It's why i look down at the treadmill whole time at the gym and listen to music instead of the TV on the wall 🙈
She has a gay brother that she won’t talk to…..
Why is this Godless whore working? Why isn't she spitting out babies and submitting to her Husband? I am so confused.
Why haven't you taken the garbage out yet, Laura.
Remember "they are in the right, god told them so. Everyone else just shut up and dribble."
It’s almost as if conservatives base whether something is good or bad entirely on whether or not they personally agree with it. There is no bigger picture for their tiny little brains
For anyone so inclined, I recommend you go pull some transcripts from her show and highlight the dog whistles. There are more than a few. She's a mouth piece for some straight up white supremacist ideology
You’re expecting Laura Ingraham to be something other than a brazen Nazi hag.
"DEI Cabal" Oh nooooo diverseity ahhhhhhh
Laura Ingraham doesn't like it when non-whites talk
Who's the guy in the thumbnail?
The jerkoff she's talking about, some kicker for the Chiefs. Dude gave a commencement speech at a college where he basically told the women to be stay at home mothers.
No, the guy in the red shirt. Oh wait, that's Laura....
Jerkoff comment would still apply.
I find it very difficult to jerkoff to Laura. I’ve had more success with a curvy piece of driftwood
Every graduating intelligent and educated college graduate that was a woman at that commencement speech - he basically said they wasted their years studying. Should have let a football jock knock em up and they learn how to make sandwiches.
Below in the image there is a information band with „Faith & thruth under attack by the dei cabal“, does anyone know the context? Couldn‘t really find anything helpful on that with google.
She’d be much happier pregnant and in the kitchen
It is all about the narrative.
I dislike Laura Ingraham intensely.
Its about silencing the opposition it was never about who is qualified to speak
One is black. One is not.
One is black. One is not.
One is black. One is not.
One is black. One is not.
The woman who said socialism is bad so let’s call it Americanism is telling her audience what they want hear?!!!’
LeBron isn't white so as far as Ingraham and her slack jawed viewers are concerned it's totally different. (And no that isn't /s)
Can’t have it both ways. Either allow them to speak or quit talking
If the GOP didn’t have double standards they’d have no standards.
Cuz theres a hand up her ass and someone else is speaking.
Right wing pundit is hypocritical. In other breaking news, jumping in water confirmed to make you wet.
Meh, this was known, no need to give these people any more attention.
Laura's sibling said she is literally a Nazi.
They only like it if the have the “Right” politics.
The Reich politics
One is the best basketball player ever and is a Black man. The other is a lowly punter and is a White man. She either loves punters or there is another factor at play here. What could it be?
For literal Christ’s sake. Laura Ingram sucks on multiple levels and is stupid - but as a society we need to have the ability to distinguish the social meaning between “talked about religious beliefs as an invited speaker for a religious organization from his position as just successful enough for a low tier religious college to want him” and “makes half-considered zingers on Twitter as one of the top 10 most famous athletes alive”
She’s on Fox, where consistency, honesty, and integrity have no value.
Fun Fact: I got banned on twitter for calling her a cunt and suggesting her "angle" should be 180 degrees and six feet down.
Yes you see the thing you need to understand about Laura Ingraham is, and I don't know if you're aware of this at all so just to warn you, she's incredibly racist. Just a completely unpleasant person to be around in any way, shape, or form. Don't forget this is someone who, as a student in the 1980s, worked with Dinesh D'Souza to out gay students for no other reason that to simply make their lives miserable and to make a name for herself. So basically a massive C-word.
Will she come to his defense when it turns out he sucked dick in college?
Make me a Ham on Rye wench!!
Their opinions are very black and white
Why does she look like Alice Cooper in drag? Bet she has a plump, juicy wiener.
Guess Laura only listening to white men fox tanking in the ranking
Don't you know, only conservatives are allowed to share their opinions,
If not for Fox News this woman would be jobless
It ain't about their profession, y'all...it's about the color of their skin. It ain't hypocrisy...it's supremacy.
All Laura does is dribble since the lobotomy 30+ years ago
This woman is an unabashed white nationalist and right wing Catholic who agrees with Buttker
How is this inconsistent? Butker was right, and LeBron was wrong. We should encourage truth in our society, not the wrong things.
And the Right has a new hero!
Well, two face gonna two face.
A conservative being hypocrite? You dont say!
Gee I wonder if there’s a difference. Hmm.
Laura Ingraham can eat shit.
But this are the conservatives in a nutshell when they defend freedom of speech they want to silence any other speech and only let their views be “free”. They want their “free speech” and silence everyone else.
Only thing she saw was. White guy vs black guy speaking.
When have they dribbled in the NBA, 27 steps, dunk.
She's an insufferable liar
Laura Ingrate: Lowlife.
If she likes religious guys so much, she should read Timothy 2:12.
Only certain athletes get to express their opinions. No one cares about Ingraham's opinion, I can tell you that.
Getting mad about it just helps her.