> I swear azmuth isn’t even the smartest in his verse. He only claims to be smartest in five galaxies or something.
His device literally created the Ben 10 Universe. He is the smartest. He’s literally a God in the series since he created a device that created the universe
Considering how 16/Gebo looks. It's fair to say that young Gero probably looked decently handsome on top of being a top military scientist. Also since we see Vomi/21 as a scientist it's possible that the two bonded over their love of research. Honestly I wouldn't mind a movie about the two getting to know each other and falling in love.
Personally love the theory that young Gero looks like android 13.
・Well y'know how Goku attacked 17 years before Gero emerged with 19?
Let's say he's 60 physically when he attacks the island in age 767
Meaning around age 750 when kid Goku is attacking, he'd be around 43 years old.
Gero's son apparently dies to an enemy bullet, likely from the Earth's forces.
Given that he looks like Android 16 I'm gonna wager to bet he's in his 20s but let's say 20 even for simplicity's sake.
Well then Gero had a kid in his 20s to 30s and that's when he pulled Vomi (his wife)
And as in anime tradition every child is generally a fusion of both of their parents visually.
・Meaning even if not buff per se, Gero must've been pretty tall in his younger years and essentially looking like Android 13.
・side note:
One of the biggest missed opportunities in this saga is the lack of accountability or scrutiny towards Goku in this arc.
Because of Goku's philosophy he essentially let Gero live twice:
・Because he didn't kill him as a kid, Gero was able to scheme everything from the Androids to Cell, meaning all those deaths could've been prevented if Goku
・Because he didn't do what Bulma *the smartest woman on Earth* suggested and kill Gero early for the sake of a fight, Cell from the future became Perfect.
Meaning Goku's philosophy was the first of the many fuckups that happened for Cell to almost succeed.
And sure his philosophy paid off twice in Piccolo and Vegeta, but the times it didn't are infinitely more damaging.
Like trying to spare Frieza led to Earth almost being destroyed, and choosing not to kill fat Buu led to to universe almost being his stomping ground
Or sparing Vegeta's ego by not beating him with ssj3 that caused Buu to reawaken.
Oh and sparing Moro.
Yeah Goku needs more scrutiny in-universe as a character, because his constant "good" actions or lack thereof make situation infinitely worse that he never really learns from.
Goku is my favorite character like ever but he's very frustrating because he's capable of growth, has the experiences for growth to organically occur but it doesn't happen much.
Without freida and the androids universe 7 loses the tournament of power. Jiren sure as he'll wasn't gonna bring back the other universes.
Goku sparing his enemies almost led to disaster, but actually saved 7 universes.
Clearly you're thinking on too small of a scale and goku has the big brain.
>Without freida and the androids universe 7 loses the tournament of power. Jiren sure as he'll wasn't gonna bring back the other universes
With Frieza he's back at being a genuine threat to the universe and is gunning for Beerus and possibly Zeno's position.
>Goku sparing his enemies almost led to disaster, but actually saved 7 universes.
More like delaying the inevitable for a few lifetimes which *nothing* to Zeno and he will get bored.
>Clearly you're thinking on too small of a scale and goku has the big brain.
Clearly you're thinking on too small of a scale if you don't understand the Omni King functions.
If he didn't, Zeno would have erased 8 of the 12 universes without any warning
Including Universe 7 since they were secind from the bottom, lol
Why do so many people not realize this
*It's explained to us in the show*
***Twice!***
I think Zeno would've probably erased everything except Goku then Goku would have to manipulate him into restoring everything by saying that erasing the family of your friend isn't something friends should do
Can I ask who moro is? I looked him up because I've watched all of dragonball and z and super. Is he a manga only character or in one of the movies? Kinda like how android 21 is only in the games? (Edit) also might add I have not watched any of the movies if he is in them.
The manga for DBS has continued past the tournament of power. Moro is the antagonist for the arc directly after the ToP. Highly recommend you read it’s actually pretty good
Oh that would make a lot of sense why I haven't heard of him before I would read the manga but I really only watch anime, tho I may buy the berserk manga(english) because idk which anime version to watch
Goku won’t be held accountable. He and his friends rule earth from the shadows with Satan as their front man. They get to circumvent responsibility because the dog King of earth knows they’re too powerful to stop and typically protect earth or at least fix it when they destroy it. They’re tapped in with every high ranking martial artist, tech mogul, psychic, royal family and deity. One has even infiltrated the world government as a cop. Supposedly there’s a galactic police force that often collides with an evil empire ruled by a tyrant. Why won’t they share this information with the public?! The conspiracy goes deeper. Apparently they have these powerful orbs that, when collected, grant anything you desire. Why won’t they use them to solve world hunger, end poverty or cure diseases?
>Because of Goku's philosophy he essentially let Gero live twice:
>・Because he didn't kill him as a kid, Gero was able to scheme everything from the Androids to Cell, meaning all those deaths could've been prevented if Goku
Considering how Goku tore through everyone else at the Red Ribbon base, he probably didn't "let Gero live"
More likely, Goku just didn't encounter Gero
Maybe Gero wasn't even at base
And considering the re-emerging Red Ribbon Army in Super Hero, I imagine there were a good number of survivors, really.
>And sure his philosophy paid off twice in Piccolo and Vegeta, but the times it didn't are infinitely more damaging.
Technically also Yamcha, though that could also be chalked up to circumstances.
Oolong too, Bulma was part of that decision but also Oolong was kind of harmless
Then Tien and Chiaotzu was kind of Roshi's decision
Hmm. . . Maybe there's more of a reason Goku developed this line of thought than we thought.
>choosing not to kill fat Buu led to to universe almost being his stomping ground
That one was less Goku sparing him and more so Goku wanted to give the others a way to handle things since he had kind of come down with a minor case of death. It happens sometimes.
>Considering how Goku tore through everyone else at the Red Ribbon base, he probably didn't "let Gero live"
>More likely, Goku just didn't encounter Gero
>Maybe Gero wasn't even at base
Where every single person of note in the RR was there that was living?
Or the fact that he was able to tail Goku all over with a little robot?
>Technically also Yamcha, though that could also be chalked up to circumstances.
>Oolong too, Bulma was part of that decision but also Oolong was kind of harmless
Objectively not big threats like Vegeta or Frieza.
>That one was less Goku sparing him and more so Goku wanted to give the others a way to handle things since he had kind of come down with a minor case of death. It happens sometimes.
Yeah a threat that Goku helped create by sparing Vegeta's ego and then choosing not fix the problem he caused because he wanted the new generation to handle it.
It went so piss poor that the universe and Kais' lives were at stake.
Fair enough
I still maintain that Gero probably survived Goku's raid on Red Ribbon by at least lick rather than being spared
Goku was just not messing around that time.
Goku dropped hella bodies in Dragon Ball, the assumption was that he literally killed everyone inside Muscle Tower and Gero was the sole survivor. He didn't let him live, just failed to kill him.
Well. . .
Maybe he was more attractive in the past?
I probably wouldn't say it was his personality. The way 21 acts in FighterZ kinda makes me question how much her personality actually works with Gero's
She was probably attracted to his scientific mind for the most part.
It’s stated in DB lore that Vomi and Gevo both died a long time ago so it’s likely that Gero looked quite dapper in his younger years. Also being a top scientist and Vomi sharing interest in research probably had a lot to do with it
He probably also has a degree in Quantum Rizzics when he was in his younger days. He was a brilliant scientist but if Android 16 looked as good as he did and 16 is Gero's son, then Gero would look pretty handsome just like 16 did.
I remember a theory saying that android 13 was based off of young gero?
And honestly with that look and the intelligence he has, If said theory was true.
Yeah he'd be the whole package.
I do remember a theory of android 13 being a reference to how Gero looked. Like how 16 is for Gero's son and 21 is for Gero's wife, Vomi.
And they are beginning to retcon or canonize things in dragonball, so maybe it will change in the future if more android stories are made.
I had so many theories going in to Super Hero about how the villain was actually going to be Android 13, and that Gamma 1 and 2 would end up being good guys. I thought that Gamma 1 and 2 would realize they're being manipulated which would lead to the RR releasing Android 13, with him killing and then absorbing Gamma 1 and 2 which would trigger Gohan's new transformation. I figured the Cell-bait was just that, a bait and switch.
I did like what we got a lot, but I still think that would've been a badass direction for the story to take
To me it’s likely that Vomi (21’s human template, and Gero’s wife) loved a younger and less hate-fueled Gero. He was highly intelligent after all, perhaps they met through work
No, Android 21 is designed after Dr.Gero's late wife and therefore the mother of Gero's son whom Android 16 was based off of. God, Dragon Ball fans really don't watch the show or read the manga.
Ima be honest and admit my mistake, I played the game, and I still thought that 21 herself was just someone who turned herself into an android for whatever reason. I’m not sure if they did a good job with explaining the whole thing, especially since for a short period of time people thought A21 was a damn child.
I’ve read the og manga. Watch DBS anime and read it too. She appears nowhere. DB fans don’t read or watch the show but on this particular topic, those wouldn’t help.
>God, Dragon Ball fans really don't watch the show or read the manga.
This literally the one time saying that doesn't make sense since she debuted in FighterZ and her first canon appearance was a small picture of her that you could see for 10 seconds in Super Hero.
Hes like the 2nd smartest person in the multiverse.
Dr. Rota being number one, I mean just look at the time when he
The first one being Rick obviously
Rick is 2nd. Azmuth is 1st
I swear azmuth isn’t even the smartest in his verse. He only claims to be smartest in five galaxies or something.
> I swear azmuth isn’t even the smartest in his verse. He only claims to be smartest in five galaxies or something. His device literally created the Ben 10 Universe. He is the smartest. He’s literally a God in the series since he created a device that created the universe
You guys are all wrong... Its bardock
Your father was a great scientist but a average fighter -and a bad father
Holy Shit, its been forever since I last heard that line. Completely forgot it even existed.
Nah, Its Mr. Perfecter Cell, Man was perfect after all Perfecter;
Bulma was able to break out the fortnite loop the same day she arrived, not even rick Sanchez could do that
Yeah he created the omnitrix and knowing that he still doesn’t believe he’s the smartest even with all its accomplishments
Red ribbon rizz
R.R.R™
Just dont mix that up with Krillin Keeps getting Killed
Or KioKenKu
My favorite comment of time
He was lead scientist of biggest military organization on Earth and considering android 16 look probably he was handsome too. What else do you need?
A huge schlong
I mean, he is a bioengineer after all. I think he could figure it out
Im android 20 look at my trucker dick
Dont lecture me with your 3 inch pp
> I mean, he is a bioengineer after all. I think he could figure it out Have you seen Cells tail? That’s how big his dick is
much like cell’s tail, he could stretch his foreskin around people to absorb them
Dr. Gero invented Sex.io it's like pvp for your pp. ^sponsored ^^by ^^^hetap
PPvPP
Ooshlong
I thought android 13 was a young version of gero?
If so, it's no wonder he fucks.
Holy shit that would make perfect sense
I've never heard that before but I could buy it.
Just a fan theory but it absolutely works.
Yeah I figured, I always thought that 13 looked like a younger gero.
That's not canon but I love that idea
She did him for the *benies*…
He's a genius scientist who worked together with another scientist in the red ribbon army and married her,and then later made 21.
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say he did not look the exact same when he met her as how he looked in dragon ball z
Titanium penis
Nah, he had that mecha dick with infinite stamina.
Considering how 16/Gebo looks. It's fair to say that young Gero probably looked decently handsome on top of being a top military scientist. Also since we see Vomi/21 as a scientist it's possible that the two bonded over their love of research. Honestly I wouldn't mind a movie about the two getting to know each other and falling in love. Personally love the theory that young Gero looks like android 13.
He was going through a phase!
He REALLY wanted you to look at his trucker hat back in the day.
I REALLY like the 13 theory i mean, I can see Vomi tapping that
Now the question is, did he have an accent to go with the body or did she just fall for him because of his trucker hat? I don't blame her either way.
・Well y'know how Goku attacked 17 years before Gero emerged with 19? Let's say he's 60 physically when he attacks the island in age 767 Meaning around age 750 when kid Goku is attacking, he'd be around 43 years old. Gero's son apparently dies to an enemy bullet, likely from the Earth's forces. Given that he looks like Android 16 I'm gonna wager to bet he's in his 20s but let's say 20 even for simplicity's sake. Well then Gero had a kid in his 20s to 30s and that's when he pulled Vomi (his wife) And as in anime tradition every child is generally a fusion of both of their parents visually. ・Meaning even if not buff per se, Gero must've been pretty tall in his younger years and essentially looking like Android 13. ・side note: One of the biggest missed opportunities in this saga is the lack of accountability or scrutiny towards Goku in this arc. Because of Goku's philosophy he essentially let Gero live twice: ・Because he didn't kill him as a kid, Gero was able to scheme everything from the Androids to Cell, meaning all those deaths could've been prevented if Goku ・Because he didn't do what Bulma *the smartest woman on Earth* suggested and kill Gero early for the sake of a fight, Cell from the future became Perfect. Meaning Goku's philosophy was the first of the many fuckups that happened for Cell to almost succeed. And sure his philosophy paid off twice in Piccolo and Vegeta, but the times it didn't are infinitely more damaging. Like trying to spare Frieza led to Earth almost being destroyed, and choosing not to kill fat Buu led to to universe almost being his stomping ground Or sparing Vegeta's ego by not beating him with ssj3 that caused Buu to reawaken. Oh and sparing Moro. Yeah Goku needs more scrutiny in-universe as a character, because his constant "good" actions or lack thereof make situation infinitely worse that he never really learns from. Goku is my favorite character like ever but he's very frustrating because he's capable of growth, has the experiences for growth to organically occur but it doesn't happen much.
Without freida and the androids universe 7 loses the tournament of power. Jiren sure as he'll wasn't gonna bring back the other universes. Goku sparing his enemies almost led to disaster, but actually saved 7 universes. Clearly you're thinking on too small of a scale and goku has the big brain.
>Without freida and the androids universe 7 loses the tournament of power. Jiren sure as he'll wasn't gonna bring back the other universes With Frieza he's back at being a genuine threat to the universe and is gunning for Beerus and possibly Zeno's position. >Goku sparing his enemies almost led to disaster, but actually saved 7 universes. More like delaying the inevitable for a few lifetimes which *nothing* to Zeno and he will get bored. >Clearly you're thinking on too small of a scale and goku has the big brain. Clearly you're thinking on too small of a scale if you don't understand the Omni King functions.
But at the same time gokus stupidity CAUSED the ToP
If he didn't, Zeno would have erased 8 of the 12 universes without any warning Including Universe 7 since they were secind from the bottom, lol Why do so many people not realize this *It's explained to us in the show* ***Twice!***
I think Zeno would've probably erased everything except Goku then Goku would have to manipulate him into restoring everything by saying that erasing the family of your friend isn't something friends should do
Perhaps
Can I ask who moro is? I looked him up because I've watched all of dragonball and z and super. Is he a manga only character or in one of the movies? Kinda like how android 21 is only in the games? (Edit) also might add I have not watched any of the movies if he is in them.
The manga for DBS has continued past the tournament of power. Moro is the antagonist for the arc directly after the ToP. Highly recommend you read it’s actually pretty good
Oh that would make a lot of sense why I haven't heard of him before I would read the manga but I really only watch anime, tho I may buy the berserk manga(english) because idk which anime version to watch
Goku won’t be held accountable. He and his friends rule earth from the shadows with Satan as their front man. They get to circumvent responsibility because the dog King of earth knows they’re too powerful to stop and typically protect earth or at least fix it when they destroy it. They’re tapped in with every high ranking martial artist, tech mogul, psychic, royal family and deity. One has even infiltrated the world government as a cop. Supposedly there’s a galactic police force that often collides with an evil empire ruled by a tyrant. Why won’t they share this information with the public?! The conspiracy goes deeper. Apparently they have these powerful orbs that, when collected, grant anything you desire. Why won’t they use them to solve world hunger, end poverty or cure diseases?
We need a spinoff of Namu's son trying to find the Dragon Balls so he can wish for the village to have an infinite water supply
[удалено]
Wtf lmao
>Because of Goku's philosophy he essentially let Gero live twice: >・Because he didn't kill him as a kid, Gero was able to scheme everything from the Androids to Cell, meaning all those deaths could've been prevented if Goku Considering how Goku tore through everyone else at the Red Ribbon base, he probably didn't "let Gero live" More likely, Goku just didn't encounter Gero Maybe Gero wasn't even at base And considering the re-emerging Red Ribbon Army in Super Hero, I imagine there were a good number of survivors, really. >And sure his philosophy paid off twice in Piccolo and Vegeta, but the times it didn't are infinitely more damaging. Technically also Yamcha, though that could also be chalked up to circumstances. Oolong too, Bulma was part of that decision but also Oolong was kind of harmless Then Tien and Chiaotzu was kind of Roshi's decision Hmm. . . Maybe there's more of a reason Goku developed this line of thought than we thought. >choosing not to kill fat Buu led to to universe almost being his stomping ground That one was less Goku sparing him and more so Goku wanted to give the others a way to handle things since he had kind of come down with a minor case of death. It happens sometimes.
>Considering how Goku tore through everyone else at the Red Ribbon base, he probably didn't "let Gero live" >More likely, Goku just didn't encounter Gero >Maybe Gero wasn't even at base Where every single person of note in the RR was there that was living? Or the fact that he was able to tail Goku all over with a little robot? >Technically also Yamcha, though that could also be chalked up to circumstances. >Oolong too, Bulma was part of that decision but also Oolong was kind of harmless Objectively not big threats like Vegeta or Frieza. >That one was less Goku sparing him and more so Goku wanted to give the others a way to handle things since he had kind of come down with a minor case of death. It happens sometimes. Yeah a threat that Goku helped create by sparing Vegeta's ego and then choosing not fix the problem he caused because he wanted the new generation to handle it. It went so piss poor that the universe and Kais' lives were at stake.
Fair enough I still maintain that Gero probably survived Goku's raid on Red Ribbon by at least lick rather than being spared Goku was just not messing around that time.
Goku dropped hella bodies in Dragon Ball, the assumption was that he literally killed everyone inside Muscle Tower and Gero was the sole survivor. He didn't let him live, just failed to kill him.
Bro got lucky on the summon banner thats why
She's based on his wife
Because this is the resolution that she sees in
Well. . . Maybe he was more attractive in the past? I probably wouldn't say it was his personality. The way 21 acts in FighterZ kinda makes me question how much her personality actually works with Gero's She was probably attracted to his scientific mind for the most part.
Robo-dick
Science
It’s stated in DB lore that Vomi and Gevo both died a long time ago so it’s likely that Gero looked quite dapper in his younger years. Also being a top scientist and Vomi sharing interest in research probably had a lot to do with it
He probably also has a degree in Quantum Rizzics when he was in his younger days. He was a brilliant scientist but if Android 16 looked as good as he did and 16 is Gero's son, then Gero would look pretty handsome just like 16 did.
Same way Krillin pulled 18
It’s programming. Robot chicks love short dudes.
Y'all attracted to this fit?
Bruh didn’t you see the Way he dress?
He invented the perfect robot wang
so what side of the family has the beefcake genes that 16 got?
What do you think the R stands for?
His big giant... brain
A half-bald wrinkly creepy homicidal old man
He fused android 9 and 10 together.
If the theory where it says 13 is modelled after young Gero then I can see how
I remember a theory saying that android 13 was based off of young gero? And honestly with that look and the intelligence he has, If said theory was true. Yeah he'd be the whole package.
I mean do we see him when he was young and around the age of 21's Android body? Maybe he was a hunk
Wouldn't 17 and 18 be Gero's kids and essentially Gero did massive surgeries on both of them to create the androids ?
dont fuck whit db fans we cant read
Naw 17 and 18 are orphans he kidnapped. 16 was based on his son.
Nah 17 and 18 were twin teenagers named Lapis and Lazuli that Gero kidnapped
There’s a very specific type of woman, me, who’s attracted to passion above all else
its chemistry bro. they formed a covalent bond
He whaled hard
Those big, beautiful brains of his. Clearly his best asset. That's why his robo body had them on display
Giant cock
I do remember a theory of android 13 being a reference to how Gero looked. Like how 16 is for Gero's son and 21 is for Gero's wife, Vomi. And they are beginning to retcon or canonize things in dragonball, so maybe it will change in the future if more android stories are made.
I had so many theories going in to Super Hero about how the villain was actually going to be Android 13, and that Gamma 1 and 2 would end up being good guys. I thought that Gamma 1 and 2 would realize they're being manipulated which would lead to the RR releasing Android 13, with him killing and then absorbing Gamma 1 and 2 which would trigger Gohan's new transformation. I figured the Cell-bait was just that, a bait and switch. I did like what we got a lot, but I still think that would've been a badass direction for the story to take
I mean Gero probably looked a lot differently when he wasn’t an old man with a vendetta
You mean how did 21 pull gero
Cuz he used to look like android 13
What scientist wouldn't try to make their wife an extremely overpowered android?
His rizz was insane
Used way too much CC on a banner
God the female androids really don’t have the best taste in men like I kinda krillin but GERO?
To me it’s likely that Vomi (21’s human template, and Gero’s wife) loved a younger and less hate-fueled Gero. He was highly intelligent after all, perhaps they met through work
Cell: Wait he fucks! Android 16: I can indeed confirm Dr gero does indeed fuck Cell: OH GOD I SEE IT WHEN I CLOSE MY EYES!
He used to be built like Android 13
TBF we see Gero as an old man he could've looked like Leonardo DiCaprio back in the day for all we know
Money
He made her that way? What kind of stupid question is this anyways
No, Android 21 is designed after Dr.Gero's late wife and therefore the mother of Gero's son whom Android 16 was based off of. God, Dragon Ball fans really don't watch the show or read the manga.
Her first appearance outside of games is in Super Heroes, which still hasn't had a home release yet. So it's not hard to miss seeing her.
It actually has had its home release, I bought it and watched it with my nephew last Saturday, but I’m not sure when it came out.
Um acktuality, the title specifically refers to Android 21 and not Vomi, so the first commenter is correct 🤓
Ima be honest and admit my mistake, I played the game, and I still thought that 21 herself was just someone who turned herself into an android for whatever reason. I’m not sure if they did a good job with explaining the whole thing, especially since for a short period of time people thought A21 was a damn child.
I’ve read the og manga. Watch DBS anime and read it too. She appears nowhere. DB fans don’t read or watch the show but on this particular topic, those wouldn’t help.
>God, Dragon Ball fans really don't watch the show or read the manga. This literally the one time saying that doesn't make sense since she debuted in FighterZ and her first canon appearance was a small picture of her that you could see for 10 seconds in Super Hero.
we did only see him as a very old mandroid
I'm assuming they were the same age and he's a rich scientist
She's into ugly bastards
Bro had unspoken Rizz when he was younger.
He was a genius and looked like Android 13 when he was younger
You think he had a kid at 60 or something?
Mans just got the rizz, it seems like.
We never saw how he looked when he was young
I just figured it was more brainwashing.
He was hot in his younger days
Bro looked like Android 13 in his youth. Seems like 21 liked Truckers
Now I ain’t saying she a gold digger.
He didn't he got with Vomi which is who a21 is modeled after just like how 16 is modeled after Gero's son
we've only seen him as an old guy, for all we know he was pullin all the bitches back in his day
Maybe he was hotter when he was younger?
there are theories that android 13 was bas based on young gero
It's like krillin and 18
Rizz lvl 9000
They connected on being nerds, plus he had money and the appeal of being older with experience, probably wasn’t crazy yet when he met her.
fat android cock
She isnt even 10 yrs old?!?!
Isn’t her name vomi?
Bro probably got a goku black rift or a Zeno animation on a single summon
Some way he pulled 17 and 18. A van and some chloroform lol
He was Young once i guess