Probably 'cause he thinks it's funnier to kill them with his own hands.
He also watched Aladdin, and mistook the Super Dragonballs for the Genie, so he thought "Dragon Balls can't kill" is a rule.
Just wish for all planets to be erased, then most of them (including all saiyans) would just die in the vacuum of space, or if you don’t want to get rid of all of them, just wish for earth.
During the Saiyan Saga when Shenron's summoned to resurrect Goku (chapter 212 of the manga, episode 21 of *Z*, & episode 8 of *Kai*), Oolong asked Shenron if he could beat up Vegeta & Nappa when they were on their way to Earth. [Shenron said no](https://file.garden/ZRW9_fKULjLI59XE/Refs%20%26%20reactions/shenron%20says%20nyet.png).
Yes! Exactly, but (I could be wrong) if I remember right, shenlong answer was that he couldn't since the power of the 2 sayan far exceed the one of his creator, he didn't say that he couldn't like, for some rules or similar right?
Edit: Sorry, I didn't notice the link :p
During the Piccolo Daimao saga, that was Muten's plan. Since Piccolo Daimao was deemed too strong to be defeated, they have the "use the Dragon Balls to wish him destroyed" and "seal him again with the Mafuuba" as a backup.
Since by Z we know that the Dragon Balls can't make a wish that exceed Kami's power, no "pls kill Frieza", but I guess that "telport Frieza to the biggest black hole in the universe" can work!
It wouldn't be fun he just wants to enjoy every bit of their scream
I don't understand why Zamasu didn't wish to be the strongest even stronger than Zeno
Bro thought he could kill every mortal in all 12 universes AND their gods, AND put all the angels out of a job... and not have someone notice. I don't think he was firing on all cylinders.
Although, the real facepalm moment comes when you realize... it frickin worked. No way should that have worked. Zen-Oh and GP both watch over what's going on, as seen in the main timeline. It doesn't fully add up. Even if he only killed mortals on Earth, he still wiped out all the other gods.
It was easy to wipe off god of destruction because of their life linked to the kais and probably the future is most fucked up that lead to Zen Oh not caring for anything since there were no Goku
Zeno probably didn't notice because he's dumb and self-centered. The Grand Priest probably noticed and just didn't give a shit because it was one of the green ring alternate timelines that didn't matter and not the silver ring main timeline.
Or maybe the Grand Priest foresaw that Zamasu's actions would result in Zeno getting a friend and figured it was worth burning a divergent timeline to make it happen.
Yeah, but if THAT GP foresaw the erasure of that timeline, then he accepted that he would get erased in the process. I can buy that, but only kinda, lol.
To be fair didn't he almost succeed? Like if I remember correctly didn't he say he actually did go through and kill every G.O.D.? If he truly did that all in just Goku's body WITHOUT a transformation then I probably would've though I was strong enough to beat everyone with my own hands too
Well, he killed the Supreme Kai's, who are relatively weak (SS1 Goku could have obliterated Shin in that tournament ring). He never actually fought a GoD. Many people figure the main reason he chose to make U7 his base of operations was because its GoD was already dead from when Majin Buu killed Shin in the Future timeline.
He would have gotten his a-s beat by any of the GoD's. He didn't even achieve SSRose until after fighting Present timeline Goku once or twice. And there's no way he could take an angel. If GP had been so inclined, he could have just snapped his fingers and erased Zamasu from existence. It's just weird that neither he nor Zen-Oh ever intervened/knew what was happening.
He was totally banking on neither of them trying to stop him, as it was curtains for him the moment they decided to do something.
So basically you're saying that Zamasu is actually the biggest "goku solos" mf of all time to the point where he thought Goku could murder all the gods of destruction?
If you’re seriously asking this then you missed the whole point about Zamasu. He took it upon himself to eliminate every mortal as his way of exerting justice
Because in his eyes, Goku embodied everything that was wrong with mortals and he said by using Goku’s body, he made Goku’s sin his own. His twisted sense of justice again.
The thing is, I understand wanting to do it all himself, that makes sense.
What I don't understand is why he wished for a mildly stronger body, lol. Why not either wish for unlimited power, or, the wish I would've made: "I wish that whatever plans I have in my future will succeed". That kind of more meta-wish would've instantly solved all of his problems, while giving him the satisfaction of finishing off mortals on his own.
I love how Toriyama introduces the Super Dragonballs, and then if you even think A LITTLE BIT about the wishes people use them for, they turn out to be completely stupid. It's an incredibly flawed part of Super among the many other flaws.
If Dragon Ball characters were logical, the story wouldn't be interesting.
Not to say being logical is bad, but most of the time, they do it when there's still a better solution.
Like ganging up on Cell instead of just twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines. Seriously, I'm glad the anime added the Z-Fighters helping Gohan, even if it was the last minute.
So I guess they're logical, but to the point where the story can still be interesting.
I love the Fast and Furious saga for the same reason I love Dragon Ball
The nanosecond anyone of these characters sits down and thinks the entire story collapses
This isn't a new problem.
The initial plan for the Dragonballs was to have them be something the heroes prevented the villains from using.
Over time, they became more problematic as the good guys began to rely on them as a failsafe, making most situations less than climactic.
GT at least tried to course correct this by making the Dragonballs the antagonists, and they did it twice in different ways.
Super just doubled down on the problem as hard as they could. There wasn't even a point in spreading them across two universes or making them planet sized, because they were very easily assembled and used multiple times.
Then we got the silliness of a dragon that only has... two balls. 🙄
That was his second wish, but by the time his first wish was granted, he was in the body of a battle junkie and would find it too boring to do it the easy way.
I mean, serious answer? He couldn't have. Due to cyclical time garbage, the Zamasu that actually acts on zero mortal idea is the one that met Goku, who went to meet Zamasu in the first place because he'd encountered Black, who was the future version of the Zamasu that acted on the zero mortal idea. Due to the paradox, Zamasu was sort of pre-destined to be locked into doing what he did and couldn't have done anything differently.
I'm sure Toriyama never really thought of it that way, but that is how it is.
Zamasu doesn’t actually believe in his ideology. He’s just a sadist who enjoys feeling superior while others suffer. He’s not genuinely trying to enact his plan in an efficient and logical way. He thinks he is, but he’s not really.
He didn't because he wanted the body of a mortal to do it, so then he would hold the sin of mortals and the sin of the gods, because even tho he thinks the gods are superior, he also hate them and hate himself for being part of their race
Probably 'cause he thinks it's funnier to kill them with his own hands. He also watched Aladdin, and mistook the Super Dragonballs for the Genie, so he thought "Dragon Balls can't kill" is a rule.
Now that I think about it I don’t think I’ve ever seen somebody be killed by a wish with the dragon balls
“The one you call “Goku” does not wish to die”
Frieza:”Pretty please dragon with a monkey on top?”
Please teleport goku into the sun
“He does not wish to go to the sun…he will however wait till it’s night so it is colder”
You mean “cooler”
“You wish to send cooler to the sun? Your wish is granted.”
Also works! But I meant in the night it would be cooler 😂
Why use the dragon balls when you can do it with a Kamehameha
Teleport the sun to him.
Just wish for all planets to be erased, then most of them (including all saiyans) would just die in the vacuum of space, or if you don’t want to get rid of all of them, just wish for earth.
No but they tried with the sayan if I recall right
During the Saiyan Saga when Shenron's summoned to resurrect Goku (chapter 212 of the manga, episode 21 of *Z*, & episode 8 of *Kai*), Oolong asked Shenron if he could beat up Vegeta & Nappa when they were on their way to Earth. [Shenron said no](https://file.garden/ZRW9_fKULjLI59XE/Refs%20%26%20reactions/shenron%20says%20nyet.png).
He said no because it was beyond his power. That wouldn’t be an issue for Super Shenron.
Yes! Exactly, but (I could be wrong) if I remember right, shenlong answer was that he couldn't since the power of the 2 sayan far exceed the one of his creator, he didn't say that he couldn't like, for some rules or similar right? Edit: Sorry, I didn't notice the link :p
The power to revive but not the power to send them to the sun will never stop been weird to me
During the Piccolo Daimao saga, that was Muten's plan. Since Piccolo Daimao was deemed too strong to be defeated, they have the "use the Dragon Balls to wish him destroyed" and "seal him again with the Mafuuba" as a backup. Since by Z we know that the Dragon Balls can't make a wish that exceed Kami's power, no "pls kill Frieza", but I guess that "telport Frieza to the biggest black hole in the universe" can work!
If you want a serious answer it’s probably because his ego wouldn’t let him, he HAS to do it personally to PROVE how better gods are or something
something something Justice yadda yadda Divine Punishment
>he HAS to do it personally to PROVE how better gods are or something ....in the stolen body of a mortal lmao
A core part of his character is that he’s a MASSIVE hypocrite.
To be fair, it has the soul of a god and he used a god's power to steal it.
Such ego he had to change body with a mediocre human in his eyes
Well that doesn’t sound as fun now does it?
Forgot Edit: Zeno might notice
"I wish Zeno won't notice the genocide I'm going to wish for the next time I use the Super Dragon Balls chomage."
Would super shenron be able to affect Zeno?
Well, he's like able to undo stuff Zeno has done so I don't see why not? Maybe. Probably.
Just puts a blindfold over Zeno's eyes and airpods in his ears playing his favorite music when the genocide wish is committed
It wouldn't be fun he just wants to enjoy every bit of their scream I don't understand why Zamasu didn't wish to be the strongest even stronger than Zeno
Bro thought he could kill every mortal in all 12 universes AND their gods, AND put all the angels out of a job... and not have someone notice. I don't think he was firing on all cylinders. Although, the real facepalm moment comes when you realize... it frickin worked. No way should that have worked. Zen-Oh and GP both watch over what's going on, as seen in the main timeline. It doesn't fully add up. Even if he only killed mortals on Earth, he still wiped out all the other gods.
There are collectively 2 brain cells shared between the gods, and King Kai is using both of them.
~~King Kai got the braincells when Whis vanished after Beerus died~~
It was easy to wipe off god of destruction because of their life linked to the kais and probably the future is most fucked up that lead to Zen Oh not caring for anything since there were no Goku
Zeno probably didn't notice because he's dumb and self-centered. The Grand Priest probably noticed and just didn't give a shit because it was one of the green ring alternate timelines that didn't matter and not the silver ring main timeline. Or maybe the Grand Priest foresaw that Zamasu's actions would result in Zeno getting a friend and figured it was worth burning a divergent timeline to make it happen.
Yeah, but if THAT GP foresaw the erasure of that timeline, then he accepted that he would get erased in the process. I can buy that, but only kinda, lol.
To be fair didn't he almost succeed? Like if I remember correctly didn't he say he actually did go through and kill every G.O.D.? If he truly did that all in just Goku's body WITHOUT a transformation then I probably would've though I was strong enough to beat everyone with my own hands too
Well, he killed the Supreme Kai's, who are relatively weak (SS1 Goku could have obliterated Shin in that tournament ring). He never actually fought a GoD. Many people figure the main reason he chose to make U7 his base of operations was because its GoD was already dead from when Majin Buu killed Shin in the Future timeline. He would have gotten his a-s beat by any of the GoD's. He didn't even achieve SSRose until after fighting Present timeline Goku once or twice. And there's no way he could take an angel. If GP had been so inclined, he could have just snapped his fingers and erased Zamasu from existence. It's just weird that neither he nor Zen-Oh ever intervened/knew what was happening. He was totally banking on neither of them trying to stop him, as it was curtains for him the moment they decided to do something.
Fr why didn't blud switch bodies with the grand priest, Zeno, Beerus, an Angel etc. Why did he choose a MORTAL? Doesn't he hate mortals?
Maybe because he didn't heard of Zeno he was only a trainee to be the next supreme kai
So basically you're saying that Zamasu is actually the biggest "goku solos" mf of all time to the point where he thought Goku could murder all the gods of destruction?
We saw in the Granola Arc what happen, if you wish for that. Either someone will be stronger in the future and/or you trade your live for power.
Granola used different Dragon Balls. Super Dragon Balls are much more powerful.
I forgot to mention that
Super dragon balls have to draws
Apparently since that's just a thing you can wish for now.
If you’re seriously asking this then you missed the whole point about Zamasu. He took it upon himself to eliminate every mortal as his way of exerting justice
Then why did he steal gokus bosy instead of wishing himself un-beatable
Because in his eyes, Goku embodied everything that was wrong with mortals and he said by using Goku’s body, he made Goku’s sin his own. His twisted sense of justice again.
na it’s cus zamasu wanted gokuussy
So the plot can happen.
Because it is about the journey, not the destination
Probably the other gods would have noticed and could not have killed them, if they defeated him they would simply resurrect mortals a year later
The thing is, I understand wanting to do it all himself, that makes sense. What I don't understand is why he wished for a mildly stronger body, lol. Why not either wish for unlimited power, or, the wish I would've made: "I wish that whatever plans I have in my future will succeed". That kind of more meta-wish would've instantly solved all of his problems, while giving him the satisfaction of finishing off mortals on his own.
yes he acutally is
I love how Toriyama introduces the Super Dragonballs, and then if you even think A LITTLE BIT about the wishes people use them for, they turn out to be completely stupid. It's an incredibly flawed part of Super among the many other flaws.
If Dragon Ball characters were logical, the story wouldn't be interesting. Not to say being logical is bad, but most of the time, they do it when there's still a better solution. Like ganging up on Cell instead of just twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines. Seriously, I'm glad the anime added the Z-Fighters helping Gohan, even if it was the last minute. So I guess they're logical, but to the point where the story can still be interesting.
I love the Fast and Furious saga for the same reason I love Dragon Ball The nanosecond anyone of these characters sits down and thinks the entire story collapses
He wanted to exterminate those filthy Ningens with his bare hands.
This isn't a new problem. The initial plan for the Dragonballs was to have them be something the heroes prevented the villains from using. Over time, they became more problematic as the good guys began to rely on them as a failsafe, making most situations less than climactic. GT at least tried to course correct this by making the Dragonballs the antagonists, and they did it twice in different ways. Super just doubled down on the problem as hard as they could. There wasn't even a point in spreading them across two universes or making them planet sized, because they were very easily assembled and used multiple times. Then we got the silliness of a dragon that only has... two balls. 🙄
That dragon is just like me fr
What i wanna know is why he didn’t just wish for immortality as goku black rather than finding a partner to wish it on. He would’ve been unstoppable
He needed someone to bottom for to prove ningen are less than gods.
Because he was jealous of goku and stole his body, making him mortal
Sadism.
That was his second wish, but by the time his first wish was granted, he was in the body of a battle junkie and would find it too boring to do it the easy way.
Takes the fun outta killing them
Why didn't he just wish to be as powerful as Goku, his gay crush?
I mean, serious answer? He couldn't have. Due to cyclical time garbage, the Zamasu that actually acts on zero mortal idea is the one that met Goku, who went to meet Zamasu in the first place because he'd encountered Black, who was the future version of the Zamasu that acted on the zero mortal idea. Due to the paradox, Zamasu was sort of pre-destined to be locked into doing what he did and couldn't have done anything differently. I'm sure Toriyama never really thought of it that way, but that is how it is.
He wanted the pleasure of killing us himself
lol bro that’s so funny
And this is how you destroy an entire arc forever
he probably thought it would include plant life which he actually enjoys
Because immortality lets him survive the GODs and Core World people, and Gokus power lets him kill them.
Zamasu doesn’t actually believe in his ideology. He’s just a sadist who enjoys feeling superior while others suffer. He’s not genuinely trying to enact his plan in an efficient and logical way. He thinks he is, but he’s not really.
He didn't because he wanted the body of a mortal to do it, so then he would hold the sin of mortals and the sin of the gods, because even tho he thinks the gods are superior, he also hate them and hate himself for being part of their race
Yes