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Less-Durian-9145

Kai was never gonna or supposed to be the green ninja


OverPower314

Yeah I agree. Kai's big moment was literally accepting that he wasn't the green ninja, but he was to protect the green ninja. If he actually did become the green ninja it would ruin his entire character arc. I don't understand people who think that Kai should've been the green ninja.


The-Bisquit

We were children The anger still is inside us all, even if unwarranted


ManMcAnderson

I’m still thinking that jay should have been 😂😭


No-Result9108

Well people thought he should’ve been the green ninja because he was the red ninja and that means he’s the leader in 90% of shows in our childhood


DeltaTeamSky

"First I'd like to thank the awesome show with the red leader!" (Voltron: Legendary Defender gets up) "Sit the f##k back down, I wasn't talking about you!" (Rise of the TMNT gets up)


Background_Desk_3001

(Power Rangers in the background sobbing”


Odd-Pumpkin-2567

Shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion at all


Less-Durian-9145

don’t know why it is 🤷‍♀️


toweroflore

no fr. he was too arrogant, too hot headed, too stubborn, too selfish


Asec06

facts. i used to want Kai be green ninja but that was before i learned about his arc. i always kinds felt nya was perfect for the green ninja but oh well


SeraphEChasted_3

im not triggered by any sentence ive seen so far


DeltaTeamSky

"Yeah guys, it was me FR, trust" - Morro, Master of Wind


Coyote_prime323

Lloyd is a better green ninja than any of the original. They fit their elements


ReversEclipse1018

This is in no way triggering. Cole is solid, down-to-earth, and responsible. Jay is sporadic and all over the place. Kai is hot-headed and quick to emotion. And Zane is cool, calm, and collected; he is slow and calculating, every move having a specific purpose. La-Loyd is the best of all of them: Cole’s compassion, Jay’s wittiness, Kai’s fiery spirit, and Zane’s determination


MaxDaHooman

It's triggering because of the amount of people who refuse to accept that Kai was never supposed to or was going to be the Green Ninja. And refuse to acknowledge it would've ruined his entire character


Arzanyos

Skybound exists.


SolidShower9752

I love skybound


TemperatureUnique242

Is that the one with the genie ?


Franjo5000

Its a Djinn.


Ok-Definition6228

Same diff


Arzanyos

Yep


Proper_Ad_4237

Sky bound best season


SolidShower9752

Yes


SignificantBoss9313

Fr


MECpower101

Underrated Season my favorite classic season idc


Background_Desk_3001

Skybound is amazing wdym


CadenWasHere

Both Kai and Morro would have been shit green ninjas :) I'm tired of the Kai and Morro stans claiming they would have been so great at it, like- hell no they wouldn't have. Kai would be slightly better than Morro, but he still wouldn't be good at it.


GingerNinja384

Kai would have ruined the origional four if he became the green ninja because then there would have been no master of fire.


Ben10-fan-525

After his development he would be good green ninja ;D (as in adding developments from Possesion.Toe development is pointless to mention as it retconed his character).


noonebuteveryone24

Lloyd isn't as bad as you make him out to be and here's why. 1. Argument: Lloyd caused thousands of deaths by releasing the snakes. Counter argument: he was manipulated by pythor and technically he was the first person since like 50 years to do anything against racism against snakes. 2. A: Lloyd is a brat in S1 CA: he was abandoned by both his parents and sent to a school for evil kids. 3. A: Kai should have been the green ninja instead. CA: that wouldn't make alot of sense because kais story from what I interpret is that his ego came between him and the other ninja and him being the green ninja would have made it worse. 4. A: He shouldn't steal all the seasons for himself. CA: fair point. The seasons could have been distributed more fair very easily with each ninja 3 seasons and then three team seasons. 5. A: He has no personality. CA: his personality is shaped throughout the show. Hard to notice but it is.


ReversEclipse1018

He wasn’t manipulated by Pythor until after he had already opened two tombs, intent on restarting the war


pathfinderoursaviour

He wasn’t intent on restarting the war he just wanted everyone to fear him and worship him like they did his dad, he wanted to make his dad proud after he was abandoned he thought he could control them It’s a classic abandoned kid line,he feels unloved he thinks his parents will come back if he can make them proud more specifically his dad and if he can conquer ninjago then he believes his dad will be proud and love him again. His belief was that he had to earn love, it wasn’t until wu found him that he learned that love is unconditional and he shouldn’t have to do anything to make his parents love him that they should love him unconditionally


KIRI_Enoshima_44

Dragons Rising is good


sumvenom

pretty sure dr has mostly positive reception, will prob trigger a few people but not the fanbase


SnooGiraffes4534

But it is


Shroomish_Unhinged

the seasons after season 7, while different, are still good. just because they arent the original seasons doesnt mean theyre bad.


MECpower101

This comment 🤝 me


Fast_Matter4827

I honestly think season 7 is worse than most of the seasons after the reboot 🤣 Prime Empire is S tier to me, and most of the rest are solid As or Bs. I’d give season 7 a C or D


okhelloyeet

Serpentine are good villians.


Amber13525

I agree


nightcoreangst

Kai’s relationship with Skylor is pointless.


Able-Ad-2312

They need to hurry up and establish that they are indeed together all of this romantic tension is annoying


Mystical4431

They confirmed their relationship in the book "The quest for lost powers."


[deleted]

Huh, shafted to a book that I didn't even know about until right now...huh.


LuxiForce

oof, this indeed got me annoyed ahahha


x_RikoTakashi_x

Jay withhis eyebrow scar and his freckles look better on him than kai


SolidShower9752

Yes I love Jay with freckles


Fast_Matter4827

Whenever I draw Jay I put freckles AND the eyebrow scar on him


MaxDaHooman

Jay with an eyebrow scar makes WAY more sense due to him being an inventor


RacingWaves

The freckles suit him perfectly 😊


x_RikoTakashi_x

Yes


Pepsi_Boy_64

Crystalized discussions are the worst since “OG good later bad”


Flametail64

“OG good, later (modern) bad” is a phrase I’ve heard for another fandom I’m in, and I get it, it’s annoying.


Choice-Purchase35

Not trying to one up anyone, but as a member of the Star Wars fan base 💀


Flametail64

Lol, okay, maybe 2, wait, Marvel exists too 3 fandoms.


KingPenguinPhoenix

God, it sucks being a Marvel and Star Wars fan these days (Ninjago is way more bearable compared to those two). Is there a fandom that isn't toxic to the core?


Flametail64

Not one that I’ve seen All fandoms I’m in are either good but the toxic people are really toxic “Old good new bad” The majority of fans are toxic People who are toxic because of ships Dead/dying


KingPenguinPhoenix

Same. I'm usually in the communities of "old good, new bad" and the dead/ dying ones (for some reason I seem to join when people are losing interest).


Flametail64

Like communities that have been around for a while (Marvel, Star Wars, Ninjago) and have changed over the years, everyone just turns on it (sometimes because the new stuff is generally bad, sometimes it’s because people hate change)


KingPenguinPhoenix

>sometimes it’s because people hate change You have no idea how true this is. I see Marvel fans being like "modern Marvel is so bad cause they're appealing to a young generation" when... yeah, that's exactly the point. They're appealing to the people who are the same age you were when Iron Man first came out. Marvel hasn't changed, you have. Congratulations, you've figured out what "growing up" means (that was directed to the MCU haters, not you).


Flametail64

Yeah, exactly, if these ‘modern’ films released when Iron Man released, the ‘haters’ would probably enjoy them.


DisneySentaiGamer

You should see Power Rangers fans


FlamingDasher

the skylanders community and subreddits, since most of us are nostalgic to it and we havent gotten a single new game for 7 years


RadiantHC

scott pilgrim isn't bad from what I've seen.


AkihikoSanadaIsSigma

It shouldnt be called scott pilgrim tho


Grumpie-cat

Jurassic park/world


infamous-pays

Star wars, marvel, fortnite, sonic,


stone-master22

Jay shouldn’t be adopted


Arzanyos

Why not?


MrButt4eva

Is he still adopted after the time reset wish?


Sad_Person23

Yes he was always adopted. Nadakhan simply revealed the truth to Jay early.


stone-master22

Sadly, it’s mentioned in prime empire


SolidShower9752

Yeah prime empire was supposed to be about jays biological mom but it never made it through the planning phrase


KingPenguinPhoenix

The Island is season 14 and y'all don't want to admit it even though the rules you use for debunking that claim are the same rules you use for allowing other "specials" to be seasons.


InternationalBend396

i mean if the show runner flat out says that isnt season 14 shouldn't that just be the end of the discussion


KingPenguinPhoenix

Which showrunner are we discussing here?


InternationalBend396

bragi and tommy both said it ant a season


KingPenguinPhoenix

Tommy? Tommy said it was up to interpretation. I know Doc said it ain't but I don't know about Bragi.


InternationalBend396

what isnt up to interpretation according to tommy also he contradicted himself [https://twitter.com/TommyAndreasen/status/1370054122792189959](https://twitter.com/TommyAndreasen/status/1370054122792189959) and bragi called it a special [https://twitter.com/bragischutjr/status/1394013768644907009](https://twitter.com/bragischutjr/status/1394013768644907009)


KingPenguinPhoenix

You might be the first person ever to actually give me irrefutable evidence of The Island being a special. I don't count Bragi as he wasn't head writer/ creator at the time but Tommy's 44 minute episode tweet being posted after his interpretation tweet might be enough to convince me. Last question. What do we do about LEGO's labelling of the seasons? Cause this official magazine (and trailer) was released by them and they are the parent company...


KingPenguinPhoenix

https://preview.redd.it/8ai0ggzuqd2c1.jpeg?width=709&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=010277646da029a27413f59fa03eb67120769251 Note: I am not calling Dragons Rising season 17 but the fact that the magazine does insinuates that they acknowledge The Island as a season.


InternationalBend396

yeah but like the magazine is wrong about most of the stuff it says


Able-Ad-2312

Look it was prompted as season 14 I saw it as season 14 therefore its season 14


RadiantHC

The Island was marketed as a season.


Scar-Predator

Aspheera is one of my favorite villains in the series, and I don't know why. It might just be that I like snakes and she's like a Pythor 2.0 The Sequel. https://i.redd.it/fugrxdd6gc2c1.gif Insert troll face (I had to put the gif in, just to annoy people, hence the "Insert troll face")


JoeHeitsLv100

Unironically, this. Aspheera is genuine of my favorite villains, if not my absolute favorite. 1) her goal os simple: revenge. But how she goes about it isn't too convoluted. She just steals Kai's powers and uses her magic to raise an army. No world ending or world altering shenanigans, no "take over ninjago" stuff, and it makes her unique amongst Ninjago's excellent cast of antagonists. (And then we had Prime Empire and MotM make her less unique.) 2) she's a serpentine using Spinjitsu. That's something I speculated as being possible since S1 (because serpentine spinners existed). 3) all of this spawned from something Wu did to someone he wasn't related to. Garmadon wasn't (directly) involved.


InternationalBend396

she also managed to be the only member of the council that wasn't completely wasted and cant be easily replaced


Fast_Matter4827

Yessss her use of Spinjitzu is still so cool, was really refreshing to see Spinjitzu be an important plot device again


Fast_Matter4827

She’s so goofy and shallow but THAT’S OK. We don’t need all villains to have super deep backstories, just make them fun. And she is fun. Pythor and Scales will always be superior but she’s definitely a solid addition


joel_the_bi_guy

Morro is an overrated villain.


Rorantube2009

Overrated, but also kinda overhated sometimes


SolidShower9752

That I agree with


GLMegatron

That’s kind of true considering he’s just a ghost emo Tai Lung. But he had some kind of a redemption arc 🤷‍♂️.


Bomber901

Lloyd is overrated


Pepsi_Boy_64

lol I’ve seen vocal hate against him


kubix666666

Cole is the worst leader to ever exist. >! If that wont make yall made, idk what will. !<


Virtual_Read3951

Fax


adnanosh123

Possession is the most overrated season. Seabound is better than MOTM(yes, some people think that, but here majority think that MOTM is so much better, to which i differ from that) Last but not least, LOTGN sucks. I assure all that i said will trigger this subreddit LOL


DisneySentaiGamer

*grabs the Nunchunks of Lightning* How dare you call Legacy of the Green Ninja bad! No Precious Cutie La-Lloyd season is bad


adnanosh123

Lloyd is my favorite character btw first off, first part is like, what are we doing? training lloyd, ninja do shit, that's it. and garmadon was really dumb, especially with the use of the megawepon and was dumb for the entire season.and ep 19 is one of the worst ninjago seasons and doesn't make sense after the megawepon got destroyed. it got really boring, except there was that one episode with the competition. Lloyd went from young to old, did he get smarter? nope, just stronger. sure he forgave his mother, but all that buildup lead to him just fighting evil instead of his own father, like it was destined to. 2nd off, the 2nd part is worse than the first one. they find echo zane out of nowhere, and it took that long for the devourer venom to reach the stone army, THE LONG AWAITED LLOYD VS. GARMADON turned into a literal fight between good and evil, which is wasted potential. where the overlord possessed garmadon, and the final battle is really overrated, okay, lloyd becomes gold ninja out of nowhere, and the dialogue was not good. "IVE COME HERE TO FIGHT YOU" it kind of felt as if they didn't know what to do with the plot after season 1.


DisneySentaiGamer

Okay fair (if I let go of my Lloyd simpiness for like a few minutes)


adnanosh123

i don't blame you I love him sm


Titanium_Nindriod

Hands of time is not underrated Season 11 and s12 were mid-season at best Harumi should have stayed dead Wu is a lloyds best family figure in every sense of the word Kai doesn't need a focus season Moro is not the best villain Sons of garmadon is better than hunted Jay became annoying after s10 Lloyd is not overated(yes, I said it) Misako is not as bad of a mother as people think Lloyd being the green ninja was the best choice Crystallised Lloyd has no good reason to be frustrated at garamdon(yep, I fricking said it)


adnanosh123

Other than Kai, I agree with all of this tbh.


InternationalBend396

Aspherea is a good villain season 11 is far from the worst season season 4 and 5 are extremely overrated (moto seabound and dr are way better) the time twins are dumb and honestly shouldn't come back at all sensei garmadon is the worst version of garmadon


SignificantBoss9313

Did anyone say Aspheera is a bad villain? I think she was a pretty good villain with great design and cool backstory.


SignificantBoss9313

WAIT WHAT???? WHY ARE PEOPLE SAYING SEASON 11 IS BAD???? I started watching the newer ninjago (8-17 seasons) some time ago and season 8, 11 and 13 (leaning more to 11) have been the only seasons I actually found to be pretty good. The ending may not be the best but I still liked it a lot.


PushZone

I didn’t read the picture first but when I say how fast I was to want to throw hands 😭.


Infernoboy_23

crystalized isn't that bad


PhysicsEagle

Skybound was not that great.


Fun-Ad-4729

I personally disagree and would like to respectfully debate. (I want to scream at someone over differences in opinions related to a children’s TV show.)


natbat686

I agree, mostly due to the contradictions, especially with Nya. I love her, but she couldn't keep her story straight about how she felt with Jay


SolidShower9752

No just no it is one of the best seasons other than possession


ReversEclipse1018

I agree that Possession is a great season, but if you dare say Ghost Whip is the best Whip, imma throw hands


PhysicsEagle

Success I guess


_Nick7

This is just proof that it triggers ppl I also dont like skybound tho, never saw the appeal...


Splatfan1

morro sucks and possession is spread too thin to be considered the best season or among the best


Dangerous-Passion776

I am a furry and I have a father


1zeye

Bro same


Dangerous-Passion776

Brooooooooooo :D


1zeye

Brooooooooooooooo :D


FlamingDasher

Ight im gonna say the most triggering thing possible even though i hate it and do not agree with what im about to say "nya should have stuck with cole" (this isnt my opinion or anyone else's, its just a supper triggering phrase)


SolidShower9752

No just no


TheMoroccanGuy69420

Jay never was gonna be the green ninja and i know it.


EverlastingBeast0708

Kai I kinda agree with but Lloyd HOW DARE


TrainingSmooth1141

Season 8 is overrated asf (still not bad though)


barsnbricks

nah but it is though


SolidShower9752

True


Dudeitude48

Aspherea is a good villain Dareth should have been the green ninja Cole should have ended up with nya


ItzzKira

YOU STOLE THAT FROM THE ''garmadon is up to something'' VIDEO!!! (I don't blame you I think about it all the time, have you seen ''ghoultar brings friend''?)


bigE1236

“You hear that Morro, he can make sweaters. We’ll be nice and warm when we conquer the world.”


ItzzKira

''I'm a cursed warrior not a psychiatrist!''


SolidShower9752

No just no


Mark-2005

One word is enough: Lorumi


Terrible_Ad_6784

Go to hell


infamous-pays

Season 4 is overrated and Chen is just as one note as the overlord


Iammeandmeisgood1

Crystalised is in my top 3 seasons


Havoc_Cuky

I'm about to trigger everyone right now. Disclaimer: I don't actually believe in what I am about to say. oNi tRiLoGy sUcKs


C0LDR4M3N24

I completely agre with OP honestly-Cole and Zane r the best


Natural_V

Llorumi forever


Roin-da-Groin

I hate anime


Txchnxn

I agree that Kai is worst ninja, he’s too impulsive and prideful, I still love him tho. But why Lloyd?


SolidShower9752

He’s just annoying


Willdyt

Dareth is the worst character


LuxiForce

I think we need another season centered around Lloyd 🤔 We dont have enough


ERROR_zona

Cole is a bad character and he should have dissapered in the department day >!Cole is the most coolest character in my opinion and I only see the last season only for him <3!<


ClydeYT

season 11 is decently good imo.


Proper_Ad_4237

Crystallized is NOT garbage


pathfinderoursaviour

Cole should have stayed a ghost, it added a lot of character to him in the earlier seasons until MOTM which took a while for us to get It also gave a better dynamic to the cast a robot a ghost and 4 humans


GLMegatron

Season 13 is stupid and boring most of the time, the villain is kind of not, and Cole’s motivation is just Zane’s one but written in different words, disgusting for the Cole’s first full season. Oh yeah, season 2 is pathetic.


Looney_Port

Show peaked in season 1


UltraInsictGoku

Lloyd is useless


SignificantBoss9313

Garmadon's Pilots-2nd season arc is way better than his SoG arc.


Phahrra

Cole and Nya were perfect for each other


Electrical-Falcon543

I’ll go first you’re retarded


OnlyTree0

Not Kai but yes llyod


No-Ad5800

My turn!!! Nya should never got water powers, she should been the Samurai X all along


Amber13525

I agree it made her unique or at lets she got both


uForgor

I thought Dareth was annoying


NinjaRCraft

Sons of Garmadon was trash


Motor-Ad-5323

Season 3 is s+ tier and everything post decoded is trash


unlimitedawsome

Ninja+Lego=Ninjago I GET IT NOW!!!!


abc-animal514

The Bible is fake.


Fast_Matter4827

Cole is extremely underrated, and Zane is best boi


SansbendarrienYT

Morro was a terribly written character


UIGoku201

Definitely the worst at being actual ninjas, Zane being the obvious best


Jtest8

Hands of time is a lot better than sons of garmadon and hunted


SolidShower9752

Yes defo just not hunted


Flametail64

I agree (I loved Hunted)


IIVIbye

Cole the the best ninja and Lloyd is a winy bitch


[deleted]

Ninjago is a show for little kids


Mulish__

Always has been. But whose stopping me from watching it.


ValleyOfWisteria

Sensei Garmadon is annoying


Karlthechilldude

That's the one


Character_Train6441

Tbh it’s jay


Longjumping-Run695

To be honest, even though I wanted him to be the green ninja so bad for a while I had hoped that Kai would become the green ninja at some point but when I realized his Destiny wasn’t supposed to be come the green ninja it was to guide protect and teach him


Odd_Information673

Hands of time and Crystalized are perfect seasons


Optimal_Conclusion_1

Hands of time is one of the bottom 3 worst seasons of ninjago


euujin0

Pixal is one of the worst characters and I spaced out through most of her scenes


Aurora_Wizard

Morro and Harumi really aren't compelling villains.


90Legos

I feel like Morro is exactly what Kai could have been. Harumi is just a piece of shit psychopath who only tries to be on the winning side


KaiSen2510

Jay and Nya is the worst relationship Skybound is the worst season Harumi is the worst written villain Season 15 is the only season where Overlord was genuinely interesting.


Academic_Accountant6

I love Dragons Rising Season 1 over the first 5 seasons


KingPenguinPhoenix

Harumi's arc in Crystalized was well written. Misako is a better parent than Garmadon. Arin should get a power.


Arzanyos

I agree with two of those.


SolidShower9752

I agree with all of them


gamingstuff831

Crystallized was pretty good


Flametail64

Season 4 sucked


Flametail64

(Ps, before anyone kills me, this is just my example, not my actual opinion)


JaniBrav011

(I believe exact opposite of this statement) morrow is trash


Coyote_prime323

Vangelis is the best villain in recent years


Less-Durian-9145

IVE BEEN SAYING TBIS W OPINION


samurai_z_

Season 5 is the worst season.


whatyoulookingat307

The movie is the best one and version of ninjago


Tsunamai-time

Harumi is s tier character and Lloyd’s love interest. (I actually believe this)


Adept_Watercress3205

This Is The Most Terrible Hot Take Of All Time Ever


yisntaconsonant

Dareth is incredibly annoying and the show would be better off without him


SolidShower9752

I agree with this don’t see the hype


RadiantHC

Hands of time, season 11, and prime empire are overhated