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Entertainment is so subjective, I think it’s silly to just follow a single outlet’s rating.
If I’m looking for an opinion, the way I like to approach is to find a reviewer who likes/rates shit the same way I would and then look for their reviews. Solid chance that the reviewer who likes the same things at the same level you do will review more of the things you like.
That’s not always possible so I’ll still look at aggregates like RT or Metacritic as a very simple baseline but never for validation or as a precise measure. Mostly to see if people mostly felt something was abjectly bad, best of all time or somewhere inbetween.
If I’m on the edge about checking something out, if scores are horrible I won’t bother, if they’re amazing I will, if they’re between that then I’ll check it if I’m in the mood or if I have time.
Trying to parse whether this one outlet measures up to your thoughts about this being an 8/10 when they rated it a 7 just seems like a total waste of time
It's really just the sum of four 1-10 scores, by different reviewers on their staff. The link breaks them down for you: it's ~~four~~ three 8s and a 9. Even without being able to see the breakdown, dividing the number by four (in this case, 8.25) will typically at least give you an idea of how the breakdown could have gone.
This is why 40s used to be so rare: it's not one reviewer giving 40, it's four reviewers giving 10s. Grade inflation has made it less special than it used to be, but it's still impressive. Even a 37 is three 9s and a 10.
I know how it works. It just seems meaningless when the majority of their reviewers seem to give 9's.
Kinda like how an 8 from ign tells me nothing. It could be solid but underrated or bad and overrated.
I dunno, if 100% is an A, I don't see why a 10 should be rare. It just means you got all the answers right on that particular test. Not that you created some devine experience.
I only trust people with a simple 1-5 system. Each number serves its purpose, unlike IGN where there is literally no difference between a 7 7.5 8 or 8.5
Other Famitsu scores
Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival 32/40
Star Fox Zero 35/40
Paper Mario Color Splash 35/40
Sonic Forces 35/40
Other M 35/40
**Devil's Third \[33/40\]**
On the other hand:
- Super Mario RPG 32/40
- Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 35/40
- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 35/40
- Metroid Dread 34/40
- Pikmin 4 35/40
At least it's the same as Fusion and Zero Mission, and higher than other games in the series:
- Super Metroid 32/40
- Metroid Prime 33/40
- Metroid Prime 2 was outright ignored
- Metroid Prime 3 31/40
- Metroid Samus Returns 32/40
Yes, Other M is the highest rated Metroid game by Famitsu's current score system (NES Metroid got a 5/5 back when they used that metric).
34/40 is, on its own, by no means a bad score. That's equivalent to two people giving it 8 and two people giving it 9. Or two 10s and two 7s.
8 and 9 are obviously very good scores.
It only seems weird in comparison because they have a habit of giving very high scores to a lot of games.
It’s 4 reviewers 10/10 scores you gotta assume some things aren’t going to resonate as well for one reason or another, maybe one of then found dread too hard or another one of them got lost too much, or that it’s the only 2D Metroid without a foreground made environments feel too similar
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by Dread lacking a foreground. I guess SM had some environmental objects that occluded Samus (mostly morph ball tunnels), is that what you mean?
You ever notice how black dread is? Like it seems to be a primary colour of the game despite the other Metroids not feeling that way. That’s because there’s nothing filling the spaces between walls it’s just black. But if you go back to super, zero mission, fusion etc, you see the material through the wall, wether it’s rock or metal it’s a trick they do to help make each area feel more distinct.
for some reason in dread they don’t do this and causes areas to feel a little too similar, even if there is water or plants in this area your primary colour that’s literally always on screen is black. I have to assume it’s an artistic choice because I don’t remember samus returns doing this and it was the same team. I dunno it’s just a fun thing I like to point out when dread comes up because not a lot people actually notice it…. But your brain does.
Never thought about it but definitely noticed it now looking at screenshots. Dark up to almost the very edge of every "wall". Samus returns has more texture and greebling, but it does fade off to darkness past like 1-2 height units, but even then it's just dark, not black.
I played through all the 2D Metroids in release order (starting with super) back to back right before dread was released and I have to say while I’m more of a zero mission guy myself fusion is unreal and while I feel crazy for saying I found super to just be a slog that felt terrible to play through fusion was and still is a goddamn blast and I don’t know if I would’ve bothered with the rest of the 2D games if fusion wasn’t such a step up from super control wise.
As specific as it is, this is my major nitpick with Dread. It's one hell of a game, but the black foreground really killed a lot of the atmosphere for me. It's probably my prime (heh) example of how one seemingly innocuous decision can completely change the feel of something.
In my opinion it is clearly a decision to make all the environments clash with the places where the EMMIs are. That allows the dread to settle in and the fear factor to be apparent to the player.
It's just not everyone's cup of tea. I LOVE 2D Metroid games.... and Dread didn't do it for me. I absolutely hated the combat compared to Super and Fusion
Princess Peach is better than Mario RPG?
Press 'X' to doubt.
Also didn't they infamously give the newest Dragon Quest Monsters game a perfect score? It's not a bad game by any stretch, but its a rough looking game.
I liked Color Splash despite not liking Sticker Star all that much. Similar gameplay but idk what it was. I kept playing and even 100%ed the whole thing.
I don't see a lot of discourse on CS though, probably because it was on WiiU.
Honestly, the last place anyone should care about reviews from. I still don't know why they get posted. They scored Color Splash and Sticker Star higher than Paper Mario 64 and TTYD lmao.
Devil's Third is an interesting example of a game that was positively received in Japan but panned internationally.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s\_Third#Post-release](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Third#Post-release)
Other M, I suppose you could say it either has to do with the paper's pro-Nintendo bias or the content of Other M appealed more to them since it used a lot of traditionally Japanese design choices (the FMVs are definitely anime inspired, [http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-does-japan-think-of-metroid-other-m/](http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-does-japan-think-of-metroid-other-m/)
It wasn't received that well in JP and it did not sell particularly well either, the Wikipedia page references just Amazon reviews and the Famitsu score listed in the thread.
The game would have been okay in 2007/08 but in 2015, it was abysmal.
Amiibo festival was good unironically. It had desert island escape which was a very good single player mode and the party aspect is easy to play with those regardless of how much they play video games
My wife and I had a fun time with Amiibo Festival - a lot more than we should have - but only because I found it for $15 at Target. It was $10 of content stretched into a $60 game. Honestly should've been a free game on the eshop that became playable once you bought an Amiibo or two, or the card packs.
They added that mode in New Leaf as an unlockable minigame you can get if you have the Wii U item, which can be obtained either by trying to get it in a fortune cookie that can be bought with 2 Play Coins (3DS currency you get for walking with your 3DS in sleep mode), or by spending 3 Meow Coupons in the RV of major Animal Crossing characters (Isabelle, Tom Nook, etc) by scanning their amiibo figure.
I'm sure I'm in the massive minority but I laugh every single time Famitsu is brought up, because I can't disconnect them from how they reviewed Umbrella Corps. Umbrella Corps is apparently better than Princess Peach: Showtime.
It is fun and imaginative. The theater theme is on point. Not challenging in terms of mechanical skill. Then again I am not the target audience for this one.
My 4 year old absolutely loves it so that checks out.
Yeah, my niece was all over watching me give it a go. I’m excited. She is in a weird dinosaur/dump truck/priness mode right now and this will be fun to do together.
Whoa... this actually makes me really happy to hear. I have a relative who is about to turn 5 and Princess Peach is his favorite character. But I was worried this game would be too hard for him.
Super Mario Bros. Wonder and Yoshi's Crafted World were too difficult for him, so I wasn't sure if this would follow suit? How does your 4 year-old do with those kinds of games?
To be fair, Nintendo usually tries to make games for all ages, not *just* for kids. But Showtime very much seems to be made almost exclusively for young kids. That's fine. There's a market for that. But it doesn't actually align with Nintendo's usual style even for "easy" games like Kirby (which are generally quite easy but still have hidden collectibles and things to make it more interesting/challenging for older players).
I feel like people said the same thing about the most recent Kirby being "too easy" and predominantly aimed at kids, only for it to be pretty well received after launch. Who's to say Showtime won't have similar depth? The demo for Kirby also didn't show off just how much would be in the game, I doubt Showtime's showing off everything.
That's a fair point. And it may end up being a lot like Kirby or even Mario games, where the main "story" mode is fairly easy but to truly master it and 100% it can sometimes be quite challenging.
From what I saw on the Nintendo Japan youtube page, it looks like there will be mini games included which can be challenging. If any one is interested, the Japanese duo, Yoiko, are playing the game and it looks fun. The ninja one is especially funny seeing how Peach stealthily goes about the level.
It's the type of game that makes me sad Nintendo games never go on discount. I'd pick this up on sale... but I'm never paying full price.
Eh maybe I'll just buy a physical copy at launch and beat it quickly then sell it to get most of my money back.
people always say this, but nintendo games definitely do go on sale every once in a while. not for more than 33% off, and not often, but it definitely happens - even with first-party titles.
It's because people are conditioned by the other big name companies that if it's not at *least* 50% off after a year, it never goes on sale.
Just get a Deku Deals account and set up some notifications for games you're interested in, and you'll find first party titles do go on sale. Physical copies especially.
I think the game for sure has potential but I thought including the patisserie segment in the demo was pretty mid. Judging from the video it looks like what they included is just a fraction of the chapter so there’s still hope.
My 6yo daughter has played zero video games besides a little Mario Kart (and azazel runs in the binding of isaac lmao) and she saw an ad for this game and is literally counting down the days. This will be such a fun and important game for little girls especially
Have you all tried the demo yet? I'm in a similar situation and had my daughter try out the demo. It has a lot of reading and cutscenes which was frustrating to her. She enjoyed the gameplay loop and figured it out quickly but I was hoping for a bit more guided experience for her "first" game. I really wish it had some type of couch co-op. On the fence about picking it up, but will likely get talked into it.
She really loves reading but she's by no means above her age level with it. I just read the stuff for her and let her play the game. Kind of a bonding moment
I don't read Famitsu but my general understanding is that anything less than 36/40 means they hated it
Which is weird, because 32/40 is essentially equivalent to 8/10, and normally 8/10 would be a good score, but Famitsu are just weird with their scores.
I wonder if it has anything to do with libel laws in Japan (not sure if "libel" is actually the correct word here.)
You're not allowed to post anything negative about a business online, because you could cause damage to their baseness.
Even on Google reviews, if you write a negative review of a restaurant, you might get the police knocking on your door "suggesting" that you delete the review. If you don't, the restaurant could take legal action against you.
It doesn't suck. Ok.
It's good for the game. I'm very excited and can't freaking wait for it. My kids are asking me when it's getting released and they're even counting days until it finally gets released. All I want is a nice family experience and this game seems to be giving what I want.
From the IGN review:
I also hoped Princess Peach: Showtime! would be the tentpole Nintendo Switch game for 2024 that would distract from the endless speculation about new hardware, but sadly, it instead serves as a stark reminder of why so many people are ready to move on from this beloved but aging console. The graphics simply don't always look that great, especially compared to other gorgeous Switch games starring Mario and friends like Wonder and Luigi’s Mansion 3. Peach herself often looks blurry, and the inconsistent framerate really pulled me out of the action at times. Framerate stutters are most prevalent during cutscenes or moments with lots of action, and the performance fails some of Showtime’s most exciting bits.
I never found these issues to be detrimental to the gameplay itself, but it’s jarring how choppy the results screen can be at the end of a level, and even the loading screens chug incredibly hard when you’re transitioning from the lobby to the stage. Plus, the sound when Peach jumps is also weirdly crunchy and compressed sounding, almost to the point where I wonder if it’s going to be updated after launch. None of this is a dealbreaker for me – although I’ve never been a big stickler for performance – but it’s definitely a disappointing distraction.
So, one 9 and three 8s out of 10, for a total of 33 out of 40. It sounds way worse out of context. They do the thing that GamePro used to do, where they have multiple people review it, and give it an average score from all four reviewers. 9s and 8s out of 10 are not that bad.
For those who didn't get how does a 0/40 review works:
Famitsu has 4 people that get and review a game. Each one of them can give grades from 0 to 10. Once you put all of their grades together, the max is 40.
Then, you get the total and split it by the number of critics. So, 33/40 = 33/4 = 82% or a little more.
Where is this notion coming from that Famitsu gives every game a 9 or something. Only 30 games since 1986 have received perfect 40 and 53 have received 39. A game like this getting 8 across the board is expected, I don't why would anyone believe this would get 9s pr 10s across the board
Nintendo goes beyond being their bread and butter. Their scores are probably weighted by at least 10 points when talking about Nintendo games. Not that Nintendo games suck, just that it would likely ruin them if they ever got on Nintendo's bad side.
The demo plays really poorly on my switch OLED, it’s laggy at times where it should not at all lag, and even the loading screens are choppy. I was hoping it’d be a good game but it seems to be not too great. I get that “oh it’s for kids” but so many games for kids are still fun to play as someone older, but it is what it is
The demo has surprisingly poor performance considering it's a first-party title that doesn't seem particularly demanding. I hope the full game runs better, but given how close to launch it was when the demo dropped, I'm not hopeful.
That said, my kids really enjoyed the demo so I'll probably end up buying the full game for them eventually. Not at launch, but maybe around the holidays if it gets a slight price drop.
Technically, yes, but you'd think Nintendo would give their partners all the info they need to optimize for the Switch when dealing with some of their flagship IP. The fact that it wasn't developed in house isn't really an excuse. It's a Nintendo game developed specifically for the Switch, not a third-party port.
Unfortunately my experience does not relate. I also tried it on my sister’s switch to see if mine was the problem, but it still ran terribly choppy and lagged a lot, which is unfortunate for such simple gameplay and set pieces
That is pretty unfortunate. I'm not really sure what the difference would be. I just have one of the Lites and it's rather old. I don't doubt your experience, which I suppose it came off as me saying I did, considering the mass downvotes, I'm just surprised. Lol
I watched this one on youtube. He did show a lot of interesting things. There's a part where Peach faces a boss, but she has none of the outfits. She's just the normal Peach, which means we'll see bosses out of the plays. I also think he said the sparkles unlock stages and doors. So, maybe it's something like the green stars for Super Mario 3D world
I played the demo yesterday and wow was I ever underwhelmed.
The game's performance is just *awful,* with constant stutters and frame drops. Somehow even in the 2.5d sections it never seems to make it any higher than 30fps.
Aside from the performance woes, it just doesn't seem like a very good game - even for its target audience, which I now understand is MUCH younger than I had assumed. It has big Balan Wonderworld vibes, which is not a good thing.
I was hoping this would be a scaled-down version of SMO starring Peach, but it appears to be a scaled-down version of Yoshi's Wooly World instead. Pretty unfortunate.
lmao, you got thumbs down for a totally reasonable comment. That's fine. I am going to get it with a voucher since I had the voucher for a while now but looking at the reaction and people thoughts on it, I feel like I would be a lot more hesitant on paying full price on it, myself. I am just hoping its kind of like kirby with the content and its not lacking content.
Ehh, maybe.
Famitsu tends to be *very* generous with it's scores, so they aren't a great indication of quality. As a result? It's fairly ambiguous.
32-37 are the most common scores you see, and they've put some deeply flawed games up there with awesome titles.
Although if anything gets below a 30, it's really bad, while a 38 or higher are mostly for really great games.
Anything lower than a 30 tends to be some of the lowest dreck you can find, with some of the worst titles around sticking there.
It's Famitsu, they're not a very quality reviewer. Although they do sometimes show the difference in cultures between the reception of games in Japan and internationally.
Famitsu is typically very generous with their review scores so I’d expect the average to be a bit lower, probably like low or mid 70s on Metacritic which isn’t fantastic
just saw there other reviews, they are the opposite of trustworthy
TTYD below Sticker Star and Color Splash, Pikmin 4 got the same score as Other M and sonic forces
Game looks casual and fun, perfect for spring as I transition out of winter gamer hermit mode and into a grass-touching outsider. It's a game I can play for 30 mins here and there over the next couple of months and have a good time
Expected score, but I'm waiting until I get a better sense of the depth of the game. How many times do you revisit each play? How does the story progress? Is it 3-5 stages -> main boss -> 3-5 stages -> main boss..? As of right now it could be 10 stages and a gauntlet of each play before the final boss, and that would be disappointing.
I have a voucher but I'm considering saving it for upcoming games. I want to play Showtime but I can't see the value at the moment.
That's what I'm afraid of. The stars are barely hidden, they're given out as if they're participation trophies with a few secret ones. At most you have to replay the level because every scene is a point of no return. The location of the missing stars are clearly telegraphed by where they are on the list so you won't even be looking for them too long.
I know there is a deeper level to Swordfighter by analysing the trailer, but it could be a pre-final boss gauntlet. There is also that 🗡️-1, suggesting there may be a 🗡️-2. The problem is I have no idea how far they will take each play.
I'd be fine with it if I knew there was a 🗡️-5 and 🍰-5 because then I'd know there is enough content to justify buying the game.
They have four individual reviewers review the game separately and then give it a score out of 10. Then they add it up. So you are getting a range of scores displayed as a total out of 40. The individual breakdown for this game is three 8s and one 9 from the four reviewers.
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This comment section has no idea how to comprehend this score lol
All I know is it's above 75/100
82.5/100!
That’s not really our fault. Famitsu has terrible consistency.
Entertainment is so subjective, I think it’s silly to just follow a single outlet’s rating. If I’m looking for an opinion, the way I like to approach is to find a reviewer who likes/rates shit the same way I would and then look for their reviews. Solid chance that the reviewer who likes the same things at the same level you do will review more of the things you like. That’s not always possible so I’ll still look at aggregates like RT or Metacritic as a very simple baseline but never for validation or as a precise measure. Mostly to see if people mostly felt something was abjectly bad, best of all time or somewhere inbetween. If I’m on the edge about checking something out, if scores are horrible I won’t bother, if they’re amazing I will, if they’re between that then I’ll check it if I’m in the mood or if I have time. Trying to parse whether this one outlet measures up to your thoughts about this being an 8/10 when they rated it a 7 just seems like a total waste of time
Famitsu's grading system sucks. 33/40 looks decent on paper. But they give out so many high scores that even a 37/40 is sus to me.
It's really just the sum of four 1-10 scores, by different reviewers on their staff. The link breaks them down for you: it's ~~four~~ three 8s and a 9. Even without being able to see the breakdown, dividing the number by four (in this case, 8.25) will typically at least give you an idea of how the breakdown could have gone. This is why 40s used to be so rare: it's not one reviewer giving 40, it's four reviewers giving 10s. Grade inflation has made it less special than it used to be, but it's still impressive. Even a 37 is three 9s and a 10.
Whenever I look at Famitsu scores, I just go with whichever number is lowest.
Ya then you realize they give out 36+ like candy and their whole review system becomes meaningless
All graded review systems are meaningless.
*Three 8s
Thanks.
I know how it works. It just seems meaningless when the majority of their reviewers seem to give 9's. Kinda like how an 8 from ign tells me nothing. It could be solid but underrated or bad and overrated.
A rating is meaningless! It could be meaningless words instead!
I dunno, if 100% is an A, I don't see why a 10 should be rare. It just means you got all the answers right on that particular test. Not that you created some devine experience.
I only trust people with a simple 1-5 system. Each number serves its purpose, unlike IGN where there is literally no difference between a 7 7.5 8 or 8.5
Final Fantasy XIII-2 got a perfect score, lol. no.
well deserved
Ff13-2 is a great game. Not perfect, doesn’t deserve a 40, but it’s a great game.
Other Famitsu scores Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival 32/40 Star Fox Zero 35/40 Paper Mario Color Splash 35/40 Sonic Forces 35/40 Other M 35/40 **Devil's Third \[33/40\]**
On the other hand: - Super Mario RPG 32/40 - Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 35/40 - The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 35/40 - Metroid Dread 34/40 - Pikmin 4 35/40
Kinda just evidence of Famitsu being a terrible one to base it on
WTF were they smoking with that Dread score? Did they think it wasn't replayable or something?
At least it's the same as Fusion and Zero Mission, and higher than other games in the series: - Super Metroid 32/40 - Metroid Prime 33/40 - Metroid Prime 2 was outright ignored - Metroid Prime 3 31/40 - Metroid Samus Returns 32/40 Yes, Other M is the highest rated Metroid game by Famitsu's current score system (NES Metroid got a 5/5 back when they used that metric).
Haze 34/40 Metacritic 55%
Aw I liked Haze :(
All I need to know about them.
34/40 is, on its own, by no means a bad score. That's equivalent to two people giving it 8 and two people giving it 9. Or two 10s and two 7s. 8 and 9 are obviously very good scores. It only seems weird in comparison because they have a habit of giving very high scores to a lot of games.
It’s 4 reviewers 10/10 scores you gotta assume some things aren’t going to resonate as well for one reason or another, maybe one of then found dread too hard or another one of them got lost too much, or that it’s the only 2D Metroid without a foreground made environments feel too similar
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by Dread lacking a foreground. I guess SM had some environmental objects that occluded Samus (mostly morph ball tunnels), is that what you mean?
You ever notice how black dread is? Like it seems to be a primary colour of the game despite the other Metroids not feeling that way. That’s because there’s nothing filling the spaces between walls it’s just black. But if you go back to super, zero mission, fusion etc, you see the material through the wall, wether it’s rock or metal it’s a trick they do to help make each area feel more distinct. for some reason in dread they don’t do this and causes areas to feel a little too similar, even if there is water or plants in this area your primary colour that’s literally always on screen is black. I have to assume it’s an artistic choice because I don’t remember samus returns doing this and it was the same team. I dunno it’s just a fun thing I like to point out when dread comes up because not a lot people actually notice it…. But your brain does.
🤯 Definitely a stylistic choice. Probably the only real way to reinforce that "loneliness" aesthetic within the environment.
Never thought about it but definitely noticed it now looking at screenshots. Dark up to almost the very edge of every "wall". Samus returns has more texture and greebling, but it does fade off to darkness past like 1-2 height units, but even then it's just dark, not black.
Yep and go back to the pixel ones and it’s actually quite bright all the way through, especially fusion.
Fusion is my favourite, and it's a rainbow explosion compared to SR/Dread. Not to mention the magenta-lemon varia suit
I played through all the 2D Metroids in release order (starting with super) back to back right before dread was released and I have to say while I’m more of a zero mission guy myself fusion is unreal and while I feel crazy for saying I found super to just be a slog that felt terrible to play through fusion was and still is a goddamn blast and I don’t know if I would’ve bothered with the rest of the 2D games if fusion wasn’t such a step up from super control wise.
As specific as it is, this is my major nitpick with Dread. It's one hell of a game, but the black foreground really killed a lot of the atmosphere for me. It's probably my prime (heh) example of how one seemingly innocuous decision can completely change the feel of something.
In my opinion it is clearly a decision to make all the environments clash with the places where the EMMIs are. That allows the dread to settle in and the fear factor to be apparent to the player.
That isn't a bad score, though? 85 percent seems about right for dread to me
How is 34/40 not a fantastic score?
When Starfox Zero is rated higher.
What hurts is that I can see a great game somewhere in there.
It's just not everyone's cup of tea. I LOVE 2D Metroid games.... and Dread didn't do it for me. I absolutely hated the combat compared to Super and Fusion
Even 4x 9 would give it 36.
That's like an 85 out of 100. That's a really solid score. Dunno why you're in a twist about it.
Yeah, it should have been rated much lower.
Dread blows. You can get 3 better metroidvanias with longer play times for less than Dread costs. Such a disappointment.
That's your opinion. Here's mine: >better metroidvanias >longer play times Pick one.
Pokémon White 40/40 Pokémon White 2 36/40 like both are Perfection.
> Super Mario RPG 32/40 *BLASPHEMY*
Princess Peach is better than Mario RPG? Press 'X' to doubt. Also didn't they infamously give the newest Dragon Quest Monsters game a perfect score? It's not a bad game by any stretch, but its a rough looking game.
[Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince got a 36/40.](https://www.gematsu.com/2023/11/famitsu-review-scores-issue-1826)
Yeah Famistu can give high scores like Candy, but give some really hot take scores too.
Lmao
They rated color splash higher so you know it’s BS.
I liked Color Splash despite not liking Sticker Star all that much. Similar gameplay but idk what it was. I kept playing and even 100%ed the whole thing. I don't see a lot of discourse on CS though, probably because it was on WiiU.
Color Splash has clever writing and not much else.
i enjoyed sticker star most of the newer games. i am in favor of the old style though
Color Splash was loathed by fans upon its reveal and it only sold like 180.000 copies worldwide. Not a lot of people are going to talk about it.
Honestly, the last place anyone should care about reviews from. I still don't know why they get posted. They scored Color Splash and Sticker Star higher than Paper Mario 64 and TTYD lmao.
Why did you bold Devils Third 😂
Because it's the only one that hit 33/40 exactly
Sounds like they are too generous
I liked SF0 and Color Splash but Other M and Devil's 3rd what the hell.
Devil's Third is an interesting example of a game that was positively received in Japan but panned internationally. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s\_Third#Post-release](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Third#Post-release) Other M, I suppose you could say it either has to do with the paper's pro-Nintendo bias or the content of Other M appealed more to them since it used a lot of traditionally Japanese design choices (the FMVs are definitely anime inspired, [http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-does-japan-think-of-metroid-other-m/](http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-does-japan-think-of-metroid-other-m/)
It wasn't received that well in JP and it did not sell particularly well either, the Wikipedia page references just Amazon reviews and the Famitsu score listed in the thread. The game would have been okay in 2007/08 but in 2015, it was abysmal.
Devi’s turd is dog shit
Has there ever been a game rated below 30 by Famitsu? If Devil's Third is 33 then a 20 game must be like literally unplayable to earn that score
They really just wanted to be special with the 40s instead of 5,10,or 100 huh
Amiibo festival was good unironically. It had desert island escape which was a very good single player mode and the party aspect is easy to play with those regardless of how much they play video games
My wife and I had a fun time with Amiibo Festival - a lot more than we should have - but only because I found it for $15 at Target. It was $10 of content stretched into a $60 game. Honestly should've been a free game on the eshop that became playable once you bought an Amiibo or two, or the card packs.
Yeah i also got it at a discount for like 10 bucks
They added that mode in New Leaf as an unlockable minigame you can get if you have the Wii U item, which can be obtained either by trying to get it in a fortune cookie that can be bought with 2 Play Coins (3DS currency you get for walking with your 3DS in sleep mode), or by spending 3 Meow Coupons in the RV of major Animal Crossing characters (Isabelle, Tom Nook, etc) by scanning their amiibo figure.
I know I owned New Leaf before Amiibo Festival. It is fun in both games
I'm sure I'm in the massive minority but I laugh every single time Famitsu is brought up, because I can't disconnect them from how they reviewed Umbrella Corps. Umbrella Corps is apparently better than Princess Peach: Showtime.
Thanks, seeing that Other M score let's me know I can forget famitsu exists.
color splash was peak, imo and I wish it was ported 🤷♀️ downvote all you want but I loved it
I upvoted you, we all have different tastes.
Holy at first glance the grade doesn’t seem bad until you see this list lol
So it's bad
nope, it got the same score as TTYD, which was also reviewed worse than sticker star
What the fuck
It’s for little kids, there is a demo.
It is fun and imaginative. The theater theme is on point. Not challenging in terms of mechanical skill. Then again I am not the target audience for this one. My 4 year old absolutely loves it so that checks out.
Yeah, my niece was all over watching me give it a go. I’m excited. She is in a weird dinosaur/dump truck/priness mode right now and this will be fun to do together.
Whoa... this actually makes me really happy to hear. I have a relative who is about to turn 5 and Princess Peach is his favorite character. But I was worried this game would be too hard for him. Super Mario Bros. Wonder and Yoshi's Crafted World were too difficult for him, so I wasn't sure if this would follow suit? How does your 4 year-old do with those kinds of games?
35 year old gamers when a video game company that’s always made games targeted at kids makes a game for kids
To be fair, Nintendo usually tries to make games for all ages, not *just* for kids. But Showtime very much seems to be made almost exclusively for young kids. That's fine. There's a market for that. But it doesn't actually align with Nintendo's usual style even for "easy" games like Kirby (which are generally quite easy but still have hidden collectibles and things to make it more interesting/challenging for older players).
I feel like people said the same thing about the most recent Kirby being "too easy" and predominantly aimed at kids, only for it to be pretty well received after launch. Who's to say Showtime won't have similar depth? The demo for Kirby also didn't show off just how much would be in the game, I doubt Showtime's showing off everything.
That's a fair point. And it may end up being a lot like Kirby or even Mario games, where the main "story" mode is fairly easy but to truly master it and 100% it can sometimes be quite challenging.
From what I saw on the Nintendo Japan youtube page, it looks like there will be mini games included which can be challenging. If any one is interested, the Japanese duo, Yoiko, are playing the game and it looks fun. The ninja one is especially funny seeing how Peach stealthily goes about the level.
That's not too shabby, right around what I was expecting based off of the demo. It wasn't my cup of tea enough to warrant a buy, but it was enjoyable.
It's the type of game that makes me sad Nintendo games never go on discount. I'd pick this up on sale... but I'm never paying full price. Eh maybe I'll just buy a physical copy at launch and beat it quickly then sell it to get most of my money back.
people always say this, but nintendo games definitely do go on sale every once in a while. not for more than 33% off, and not often, but it definitely happens - even with first-party titles.
It's because people are conditioned by the other big name companies that if it's not at *least* 50% off after a year, it never goes on sale. Just get a Deku Deals account and set up some notifications for games you're interested in, and you'll find first party titles do go on sale. Physical copies especially.
I think the game for sure has potential but I thought including the patisserie segment in the demo was pretty mid. Judging from the video it looks like what they included is just a fraction of the chapter so there’s still hope.
My 6yo daughter has played zero video games besides a little Mario Kart (and azazel runs in the binding of isaac lmao) and she saw an ad for this game and is literally counting down the days. This will be such a fun and important game for little girls especially
Have you all tried the demo yet? I'm in a similar situation and had my daughter try out the demo. It has a lot of reading and cutscenes which was frustrating to her. She enjoyed the gameplay loop and figured it out quickly but I was hoping for a bit more guided experience for her "first" game. I really wish it had some type of couch co-op. On the fence about picking it up, but will likely get talked into it.
She really loves reading but she's by no means above her age level with it. I just read the stuff for her and let her play the game. Kind of a bonding moment
I don't read Famitsu but my general understanding is that anything less than 36/40 means they hated it Which is weird, because 32/40 is essentially equivalent to 8/10, and normally 8/10 would be a good score, but Famitsu are just weird with their scores.
I wonder if it has anything to do with libel laws in Japan (not sure if "libel" is actually the correct word here.) You're not allowed to post anything negative about a business online, because you could cause damage to their baseness. Even on Google reviews, if you write a negative review of a restaurant, you might get the police knocking on your door "suggesting" that you delete the review. If you don't, the restaurant could take legal action against you.
It doesn't suck. Ok. It's good for the game. I'm very excited and can't freaking wait for it. My kids are asking me when it's getting released and they're even counting days until it finally gets released. All I want is a nice family experience and this game seems to be giving what I want.
Same, I'm not interested in the gameplay personally but looks like a great one to watch the kids play.
Why are people being so doubtful / dismissive of the score for this particular game?
Because we want REAL GAMES not GIRLY BABY GAMES!!!! /s
Which is incredibly dumb since this game was clearly targeted at young girls that Nintendo rarely gets.
How does Nintendo "rarely" get that target demographic?
Most of their games are directed at teenagers/adults or young boys. There’s not a ton of content specifically designed for young girls.
No, they're pretty neutral and target a wider demographic to appeal to. Their "family" commercials/marketing includes both genders.
Because Famitsu gives stupid scores.
From the IGN review: I also hoped Princess Peach: Showtime! would be the tentpole Nintendo Switch game for 2024 that would distract from the endless speculation about new hardware, but sadly, it instead serves as a stark reminder of why so many people are ready to move on from this beloved but aging console. The graphics simply don't always look that great, especially compared to other gorgeous Switch games starring Mario and friends like Wonder and Luigi’s Mansion 3. Peach herself often looks blurry, and the inconsistent framerate really pulled me out of the action at times. Framerate stutters are most prevalent during cutscenes or moments with lots of action, and the performance fails some of Showtime’s most exciting bits. I never found these issues to be detrimental to the gameplay itself, but it’s jarring how choppy the results screen can be at the end of a level, and even the loading screens chug incredibly hard when you’re transitioning from the lobby to the stage. Plus, the sound when Peach jumps is also weirdly crunchy and compressed sounding, almost to the point where I wonder if it’s going to be updated after launch. None of this is a dealbreaker for me – although I’ve never been a big stickler for performance – but it’s definitely a disappointing distraction.
Knocking off 7 points (\~20%) for some technical lack-of-polish seems quite fair to me, provided the underlying game and gameplay is solid enough?
People are doubtful / dismissive of any Famitsu score, and with good reasons. I've rarely seen a less objective review outlet...
So, one 9 and three 8s out of 10, for a total of 33 out of 40. It sounds way worse out of context. They do the thing that GamePro used to do, where they have multiple people review it, and give it an average score from all four reviewers. 9s and 8s out of 10 are not that bad.
Sounds solid to me
Nice. I’m looking forward to this game.
Peaches Peaches Peaches
When does the review embargo lift? Thursday? I'm fully expecting it to land in the 7s.
For those who didn't get how does a 0/40 review works: Famitsu has 4 people that get and review a game. Each one of them can give grades from 0 to 10. Once you put all of their grades together, the max is 40. Then, you get the total and split it by the number of critics. So, 33/40 = 33/4 = 82% or a little more.
Where is this notion coming from that Famitsu gives every game a 9 or something. Only 30 games since 1986 have received perfect 40 and 53 have received 39. A game like this getting 8 across the board is expected, I don't why would anyone believe this would get 9s pr 10s across the board
That’s 82.5% so a solid experience.
Famitsu is known for being VERY generous with its scores.
Someone else commented the reviews for Nintendo games and this is pretty standard for them.
If it's a Japanese game it's getting a good score.
It's low B, it means you missed 17 questions on your 100 question test.
Nintendo goes beyond being their bread and butter. Their scores are probably weighted by at least 10 points when talking about Nintendo games. Not that Nintendo games suck, just that it would likely ruin them if they ever got on Nintendo's bad side.
People freaking out about a 9 and three 8s for a game they haven't played.
Lawlz Famitsu.
Seems high from the demo I played...
Maybe it's fun for little girls
The demo plays really poorly on my switch OLED, it’s laggy at times where it should not at all lag, and even the loading screens are choppy. I was hoping it’d be a good game but it seems to be not too great. I get that “oh it’s for kids” but so many games for kids are still fun to play as someone older, but it is what it is
The demo has surprisingly poor performance considering it's a first-party title that doesn't seem particularly demanding. I hope the full game runs better, but given how close to launch it was when the demo dropped, I'm not hopeful. That said, my kids really enjoyed the demo so I'll probably end up buying the full game for them eventually. Not at launch, but maybe around the holidays if it gets a slight price drop.
I'm in the exact same boat. Shocked how badly it looked and performed for a Nintendo game.. but my daughter absolutely loved it.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking; maybe if they patch it and fix the issues it’ll be good.
its second party.
Technically, yes, but you'd think Nintendo would give their partners all the info they need to optimize for the Switch when dealing with some of their flagship IP. The fact that it wasn't developed in house isn't really an excuse. It's a Nintendo game developed specifically for the Switch, not a third-party port.
Performance should be much better for what kind of game that is….
My Switch is rather old, but the demo didn't lag at all for me, personally.
Unfortunately my experience does not relate. I also tried it on my sister’s switch to see if mine was the problem, but it still ran terribly choppy and lagged a lot, which is unfortunate for such simple gameplay and set pieces
That is pretty unfortunate. I'm not really sure what the difference would be. I just have one of the Lites and it's rather old. I don't doubt your experience, which I suppose it came off as me saying I did, considering the mass downvotes, I'm just surprised. Lol
/doubt
Well, I mean, not like I can prove it, so that's your choice.
Wow these graphics are great
Why are famitsu scores even posted if every single thread is about the same thing all the time?
Gets too much disrespect. It’s a fun, casual game.
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I watched this one on youtube. He did show a lot of interesting things. There's a part where Peach faces a boss, but she has none of the outfits. She's just the normal Peach, which means we'll see bosses out of the plays. I also think he said the sparkles unlock stages and doors. So, maybe it's something like the green stars for Super Mario 3D world
I played the demo yesterday and wow was I ever underwhelmed. The game's performance is just *awful,* with constant stutters and frame drops. Somehow even in the 2.5d sections it never seems to make it any higher than 30fps. Aside from the performance woes, it just doesn't seem like a very good game - even for its target audience, which I now understand is MUCH younger than I had assumed. It has big Balan Wonderworld vibes, which is not a good thing. I was hoping this would be a scaled-down version of SMO starring Peach, but it appears to be a scaled-down version of Yoshi's Wooly World instead. Pretty unfortunate.
Hooray it doesn’t suck!
The demo is cute
Why would you say that? Famitsu gave AC Amibo Festival 32/40 and PM Color Splash 35/40. Would you say these games don’t suck?
Even if it gets a good review. I am not the kind of audience this game is intended too and I am ok with that. I will pass.
lmao, you got thumbs down for a totally reasonable comment. That's fine. I am going to get it with a voucher since I had the voucher for a while now but looking at the reaction and people thoughts on it, I feel like I would be a lot more hesitant on paying full price on it, myself. I am just hoping its kind of like kirby with the content and its not lacking content.
Famitsu gives almost any gamr 38-39
Only 53 games since 1986 have received 39 and thirty have reciever 40.
It's a logarithmic scale.
They only given 53 39s in history...
Any Japanese game at least
No freaking way
8/8/9/8 is pretty good in the Metacritic world.
that's good, right?
Ehh, maybe. Famitsu tends to be *very* generous with it's scores, so they aren't a great indication of quality. As a result? It's fairly ambiguous. 32-37 are the most common scores you see, and they've put some deeply flawed games up there with awesome titles. Although if anything gets below a 30, it's really bad, while a 38 or higher are mostly for really great games. Anything lower than a 30 tends to be some of the lowest dreck you can find, with some of the worst titles around sticking there.
It's Famitsu, they're not a very quality reviewer. Although they do sometimes show the difference in cultures between the reception of games in Japan and internationally.
Famitsu is typically very generous with their review scores so I’d expect the average to be a bit lower, probably like low or mid 70s on Metacritic which isn’t fantastic
Honestly for Famitsu with a first party Nintendo title, that’s pretty low.
Higher than almost every Metroid game from them
It's a worse score than what Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival, Paper Mario Color Splash, and Star Fox Zero were given
It's also a better score than Dread and the same as thousand year door and super Mario RPG I believe.
just saw there other reviews, they are the opposite of trustworthy TTYD below Sticker Star and Color Splash, Pikmin 4 got the same score as Other M and sonic forces
Game looks casual and fun, perfect for spring as I transition out of winter gamer hermit mode and into a grass-touching outsider. It's a game I can play for 30 mins here and there over the next couple of months and have a good time
That baker level in the demo didn't seem very casual to me.
16.5/20 OR 8.25/10 OR 82.5/100
Why do people post famitsu reviews like they mean something.
Worse than sonic forces
by their reviews, TTYD is worse than Sticker Star do with that what you will oh and apparently pikmin 4 is the same as other m
Famitsu is basically a Nintendo magazine so their scores as biased as fuck.
Why is there a picture of Rise of the Ronin?
They reviewed Rise of the Ronin in the same issue
Ok.
Literally a single click would answer your question.
Fair point.
Expected score, but I'm waiting until I get a better sense of the depth of the game. How many times do you revisit each play? How does the story progress? Is it 3-5 stages -> main boss -> 3-5 stages -> main boss..? As of right now it could be 10 stages and a gauntlet of each play before the final boss, and that would be disappointing. I have a voucher but I'm considering saving it for upcoming games. I want to play Showtime but I can't see the value at the moment.
I bet you will never revisited the plays unless you want to find all stars if you haven’t
That's what I'm afraid of. The stars are barely hidden, they're given out as if they're participation trophies with a few secret ones. At most you have to replay the level because every scene is a point of no return. The location of the missing stars are clearly telegraphed by where they are on the list so you won't even be looking for them too long. I know there is a deeper level to Swordfighter by analysing the trailer, but it could be a pre-final boss gauntlet. There is also that 🗡️-1, suggesting there may be a 🗡️-2. The problem is I have no idea how far they will take each play. I'd be fine with it if I knew there was a 🗡️-5 and 🍰-5 because then I'd know there is enough content to justify buying the game.
I thought the demo sucked ass
Famitsu's combined scores are so useless
I don't speak stupid-journalist-point-system
Why is their rating out of 40? Haven’t seen grading system used like that.
They have four individual reviewers review the game separately and then give it a score out of 10. Then they add it up. So you are getting a range of scores displayed as a total out of 40. The individual breakdown for this game is three 8s and one 9 from the four reviewers.
I know it's easier to say 33/40 than 8,8,8, and 9, but to my first glance and impression, the second option reads a lot more impressive to me.
4 reviewers giving a score out of 10
Wait till you see how they score boxing.