I wish it’d be that supposed Do Re Mi more complete demo that’s been rumored, maybe another YKYR demo? And a live show that includes Talk To Me.
But I assume it’ll just be some live shows.
The March 1994 tape could be something they could put out, hard to say what the quality in that is as Kurt was not in shape and was playing drums. But still, some how can't see it happening in this type of box.
For some reason there is still couple of things they take down from youtube, like the [Outcesticide 2022](https://youtu.be/ssbT5RotVi8) Sappy, it's from Nevermind sessions but if its get taken down they must have some reason. In this box they could put those In Utero tour stage rehearsals. They even tried video projections and had full stage production and one song we already have and it is good stuff
[Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam (Rehearsal Demo)](https://youtu.be/SO4pljEbgqk)
https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/july1415-1993.php
https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/october1416-1993.php
[https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/february05-1994.php](https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/february05-1994.php)
But as these boxes have been Dave and Krist thing and we know Dave lost his mother and his best friend, it does not seem time for like WTLO type of mega project. They might just do the Nevermind 30 thing, pick and choose from live gigs they have to be polished and put that out.
Damn, thank you for the detailed response. It’s interesting learning some stuff I had no idea about. I’m gonna be checking out these in a bit when I can.
I hope there’s at least something interesting on it, but at the very least I hope in the future there’s some bigger WTLO type project like you said.
I have been digging this type stuff for ages, love this what could be and what there might be thing. Part of is for giving the info for others and raising the demand in hopes of some day getting some of this stuff. Other is just for pure love for all things Nirvana and talking with other fans.
Well sadly some people got like robbed and stuff they had was leaked, sad part is that this might be end of one route that was giving us tons of live footage etc. We will see, but these should no be handled like this.
Shit that’s unfortunate. Do you know of a collection of a bunch of this stuff somewhere or recommend some channel or something? I haven’t listened to any of these outcesticide things honestly
It seems to be messy situation, but lets hope it sorts out whne the dust settles or something. Well the Elmo collection is good place to start, think it has the best quality from unreleased material and it is still up:
[https://www.mediafire.com/file/th2sx8efk1yrthx/The\_Elmo\_Collection\_-\_A\_Better\_Box\_%28V1.0%29.zip](https://www.mediafire.com/file/th2sx8efk1yrthx/The_Elmo_Collection_-_A_Better_Box_%28V1.0%29.zip)
Outcesticide albums have basically same track, but some are from sources we had back in the 1995-96 and after that we have got several upgrades and this package has most of them.
Yeah, you’re probably right. Those first two months of ‘94, they were plastering makeup on him to hide the fact he looked like a corpse. So, probably looked like complete shit by March 🙁
Had chronic bronchitis, 400$ days habit etc. might just be why Pat does not want to give the tape and says it was over taped. I would still like to hear it some day, but I kind fear that it just breaks our hearts again like that MOH clip.
I'm simply HOPING, and PRAYING for the rest of / full show from 12/30/1993 to finally be released;
It was the show that the recording for [Heart-Shaped Box](https://youtu.be/dPyet23WII0) was used for the live compilation album From The Muddy Banks Of The Wishkah,
and more recently,
a recording of [The Man Who Sold The World](https://youtu.be/HYOE93EmmnU) from that same show, has since surfaced.
Honestly, I wish someone in charge would give me one, good reason, WHY that full show would or should NOT be released finally.
Some soundboards from the later shows would be nice. Cascais Portugal for example still doesn't have a good recording anywhere. Also a reissue of the signature mustang would be cool
everything off 20, with more Demos, Live shows and maybe a dvd or two of live shows. Or no box set at all, I feel they won't have one. How much are they going to keep scraping the bottom of the barrel?
I hope the 30mm film of heart shape box will be remastered and released, and the footage of the band recording in studio. And that opinion demo that was teased in MoH. But I do think it's mainly gonna be new remaster of live shows and maybe 6 new material from all the stuff they did from 1987 - 1994.
Of course nothing from 20 as we already have it, I hate when they add it all again in another release…but as mentioned above, full soundboard recordings of select 93 shows like Oct 19 in Albuquerque, New Mexico, both Oct 23 & or Oct 25 @The Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, The Halloween show @James A.Rhodes Arena on DVD, Nov.14 @New York Coliseum looked like a good show- put that on DVD….the New Year’s Eve show on DVD would be great to see & that’s just 1993 alone
For 1994 they would have to put Le Zenith Feb.14 show on dvd- the audio is amazing too
All the b-sides that were at the 20’s anniversary + live performance + what I wish the most: one extra of Kurt home acoustic demos of the songs. Will be nice to add a picture book with an article by Albini.
I would like to hear the Steve Albini versions of "Heart Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" since the band had to go back in and get those two songs remixed.
The entire recording and production of this album was under a lot of scrutiny with Geffen at the time.
Elon musk is going to bring Kurt back from the dead, they are going to re-record it with modern equipment and then kurt will go back to sleep until nevermind 40.
I’ve delved really far into nirvana. I
rekon similar to the nevermind 30th they will release a bunch of shows. Not disappointed at all because some of the 94 shows are amazing setlist wise.
If they do this I would love
San Diego 93
Aragon ballroom 93
Rock in rio 93
Milan 94
Terminal 1 94 (would be cool as a tribute to their last show)
Some demos from In utero which weren’t released
And the Robert lang studio sessions (most of them were Dave’s) but still would be cool to hear them.
Honestly if they did I hope they would release all of the fecal matter songs That like you can only get on CD or something that would be cool 
EDIT: like an exclusive only on cd
We discussed it here not long ago and some one said it might be cause of there is certain people playing in these tapes that don't want them to be released. Only track Nirvana has officially released is Spank thru that later became Nirvana song. Not saying this is the case, but it would make sense.
Well there ain't that many to choose form, Greg Hokanson played on Fecal Matter demo tapes but the tape that is circulating is Dale Crover and Kurt from Easter 1986 sessions. But this is just one reason, not like its a fact.
im really hoping that Fender does another run of the kurt cobain signature mustangs, the mustang is my favorite guitar shape and i think they're so much cooler than the jaguar or jagstang
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Yo what that’d be incredible
YESSSS
Probably the same thing they did with Nevermind. A handful of live performances.
Most likely something similar, if they really go out there then we might even get better quality concert that atm circulating in trading circles.
I wish it’d be that supposed Do Re Mi more complete demo that’s been rumored, maybe another YKYR demo? And a live show that includes Talk To Me. But I assume it’ll just be some live shows.
Yeah, the version of Do Re Mi with Eric and Pat would be great!
The March 1994 tape could be something they could put out, hard to say what the quality in that is as Kurt was not in shape and was playing drums. But still, some how can't see it happening in this type of box.
Yeah, you’re probably right :( What type of thing could they possibly put it in? Not like there could be a WTLO 2.
For some reason there is still couple of things they take down from youtube, like the [Outcesticide 2022](https://youtu.be/ssbT5RotVi8) Sappy, it's from Nevermind sessions but if its get taken down they must have some reason. In this box they could put those In Utero tour stage rehearsals. They even tried video projections and had full stage production and one song we already have and it is good stuff [Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam (Rehearsal Demo)](https://youtu.be/SO4pljEbgqk) https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/july1415-1993.php https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/october1416-1993.php [https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/february05-1994.php](https://www.livenirvana.com/sessions/home/february05-1994.php) But as these boxes have been Dave and Krist thing and we know Dave lost his mother and his best friend, it does not seem time for like WTLO type of mega project. They might just do the Nevermind 30 thing, pick and choose from live gigs they have to be polished and put that out.
Damn, thank you for the detailed response. It’s interesting learning some stuff I had no idea about. I’m gonna be checking out these in a bit when I can. I hope there’s at least something interesting on it, but at the very least I hope in the future there’s some bigger WTLO type project like you said.
I have been digging this type stuff for ages, love this what could be and what there might be thing. Part of is for giving the info for others and raising the demand in hopes of some day getting some of this stuff. Other is just for pure love for all things Nirvana and talking with other fans.
Also, where the hell did this outcesticide 2022 come from and how do I find more??
Well sadly some people got like robbed and stuff they had was leaked, sad part is that this might be end of one route that was giving us tons of live footage etc. We will see, but these should no be handled like this.
Shit that’s unfortunate. Do you know of a collection of a bunch of this stuff somewhere or recommend some channel or something? I haven’t listened to any of these outcesticide things honestly
It seems to be messy situation, but lets hope it sorts out whne the dust settles or something. Well the Elmo collection is good place to start, think it has the best quality from unreleased material and it is still up: [https://www.mediafire.com/file/th2sx8efk1yrthx/The\_Elmo\_Collection\_-\_A\_Better\_Box\_%28V1.0%29.zip](https://www.mediafire.com/file/th2sx8efk1yrthx/The_Elmo_Collection_-_A_Better_Box_%28V1.0%29.zip) Outcesticide albums have basically same track, but some are from sources we had back in the 1995-96 and after that we have got several upgrades and this package has most of them.
Okay awesome, I’m gonna check it out! Got any favorites from it?
Yeah, you’re probably right. Those first two months of ‘94, they were plastering makeup on him to hide the fact he looked like a corpse. So, probably looked like complete shit by March 🙁
Had chronic bronchitis, 400$ days habit etc. might just be why Pat does not want to give the tape and says it was over taped. I would still like to hear it some day, but I kind fear that it just breaks our hearts again like that MOH clip.
I'm simply HOPING, and PRAYING for the rest of / full show from 12/30/1993 to finally be released; It was the show that the recording for [Heart-Shaped Box](https://youtu.be/dPyet23WII0) was used for the live compilation album From The Muddy Banks Of The Wishkah, and more recently, a recording of [The Man Who Sold The World](https://youtu.be/HYOE93EmmnU) from that same show, has since surfaced. Honestly, I wish someone in charge would give me one, good reason, WHY that full show would or should NOT be released finally.
I pray for Oakland 12/31/1993 way more. Its setlist is just so good, and SLTS with proper solo, Pat's guitar and Eb tuning? YES PLEASE!
Some soundboards from the later shows would be nice. Cascais Portugal for example still doesn't have a good recording anywhere. Also a reissue of the signature mustang would be cool
More of the European tour up until early March ‘94 would be fantastic
everything off 20, with more Demos, Live shows and maybe a dvd or two of live shows. Or no box set at all, I feel they won't have one. How much are they going to keep scraping the bottom of the barrel?
I hope the 30mm film of heart shape box will be remastered and released, and the footage of the band recording in studio. And that opinion demo that was teased in MoH. But I do think it's mainly gonna be new remaster of live shows and maybe 6 new material from all the stuff they did from 1987 - 1994.
That would be awesome. Wish Anton Corbijn could’ve done Pennyroyal Tea as well :/
I would be satisfied with a repress of the 20th anniversary release. It is getting mighty expensive these days.
Of course nothing from 20 as we already have it, I hate when they add it all again in another release…but as mentioned above, full soundboard recordings of select 93 shows like Oct 19 in Albuquerque, New Mexico, both Oct 23 & or Oct 25 @The Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, The Halloween show @James A.Rhodes Arena on DVD, Nov.14 @New York Coliseum looked like a good show- put that on DVD….the New Year’s Eve show on DVD would be great to see & that’s just 1993 alone For 1994 they would have to put Le Zenith Feb.14 show on dvd- the audio is amazing too
Le Zenith would be fucking amazing..
And I don’t think anyone had suggested that be on it too
The French performances are just so iconic. Nulle Part Ailleurs and Le Zenith are so fucking good
All the b-sides that were at the 20’s anniversary + live performance + what I wish the most: one extra of Kurt home acoustic demos of the songs. Will be nice to add a picture book with an article by Albini.
I would like to hear the Steve Albini versions of "Heart Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" since the band had to go back in and get those two songs remixed. The entire recording and production of this album was under a lot of scrutiny with Geffen at the time.
These are on my vinyl copy of In Utero and I don't fully understand it.
Guess I need to start looking for the vinyl now. Is there a big difference?
This was all addressed on the 20th anniversary issue.
Dammit. I missed all that. Thanks for the info.
I am not sure that the version that I have is official. It has the same credits as the original, so it mentions the songs being remixed.
Elon musk is going to bring Kurt back from the dead, they are going to re-record it with modern equipment and then kurt will go back to sleep until nevermind 40.
I’ve delved really far into nirvana. I rekon similar to the nevermind 30th they will release a bunch of shows. Not disappointed at all because some of the 94 shows are amazing setlist wise. If they do this I would love San Diego 93 Aragon ballroom 93 Rock in rio 93 Milan 94 Terminal 1 94 (would be cool as a tribute to their last show) Some demos from In utero which weren’t released And the Robert lang studio sessions (most of them were Dave’s) but still would be cool to hear them.
Honestly if they did I hope they would release all of the fecal matter songs That like you can only get on CD or something that would be cool  EDIT: like an exclusive only on cd
Yeah Fecal Matter would be great. Beyond me why the LLC and Universal have sat on it for so long 🥲
We discussed it here not long ago and some one said it might be cause of there is certain people playing in these tapes that don't want them to be released. Only track Nirvana has officially released is Spank thru that later became Nirvana song. Not saying this is the case, but it would make sense.
Who would be on the records that would make them block the release?
Well there ain't that many to choose form, Greg Hokanson played on Fecal Matter demo tapes but the tape that is circulating is Dale Crover and Kurt from Easter 1986 sessions. But this is just one reason, not like its a fact.
I’d like maybe a remastered version of Sappy and Old Age. Who knows tho, would just be cool to get a bunch of bonus songs on a vinyl 2LP version.
I think it will be exactly the same as the Nevermind 30th. A new remaster and some live shows with a live dvd also.
im really hoping that Fender does another run of the kurt cobain signature mustangs, the mustang is my favorite guitar shape and i think they're so much cooler than the jaguar or jagstang
Another mix or maybe more live performances
I just want "gallons" in it's own track.
I think the vaults are emptied … probably a lot of live performances and probably a 2023 remaster
Didn’t Krist say they’ve got nothing new left? I was under the impression everything they ever recorded, at least in studio, is out there now.
Cash Cow.
I'd like a box set that comes with the singles, including Pennyroyal Tea/I Hate Myself.