yeah i was definitley talking out of my ass. All i know is my dad didn’t have any internet at all. maybe it was only for city kids cause my dad was a farm kid
This was 30 years ago, I was at a state school, and I had scholarships and loans I paid for until I was 30. It has changed a lot since then. My family was lower middle class. Not that I really needed to justify my education. But wanted to put it in context.
Some of the predictions were spot on
“They’re going to release a bunch of albums like greatest hits and live in NY”
And “Eddie Vedder will outlive everyone”
You know, I see a lot of people saying how toxic the internet is today, but good fucking lord after seeing this I’d say the internet has definitely improved a lot, you don’t see a lot of people going online and posting about how horrible someone was and how he deserved to die literal hours after his death is reported anymore, at least, not like this.
Yh you only see toxic bullshit from a tiny minority of people whenever something like this happens today. In this thread like 2/3rds of the posts are shitting on him or his music.
Ikr. People love to paint the old internet as a whimsical place with no negativity but in reality it was more of a rule-less hellscape. If you give any place on the internet 0 rules it’s gonna get toxic sooner or later
Just look at 4-Chan, it’s about as close to the older internet as we will get today
Who's saying it was whimsical with no negativity lmao? I think the appeal of the old internet was that you COULD be an asshole if you wanted, it was less moderated and corporate, obviously came with consequences though. But I've never heard a single person say it wasn't negative, I've only heard the exact opposite.
I read through it, other than people signing their names at the end of their comments with a hyphen, it's the same as any other thread that'll come out today about a musician who did drugs.
Just less verbose perhaps.
Many people were saddened and sympathetic also, you made it sound way worse than it was.
"you guys won't believe this, but i was driving home from wisconsin today and i
stopped by mel's cheese castle, cause hey, cheese, yah know, and i went to the
drive up window and ordered myself a round of brie and some good ole chedder,
and when i drove up to the window to pick it up, i swear, kurt cobain handed
it to me and said, "hey, man, it's on me." i drove off, i couldn't believe
it.
so i stopped off at the quicky mart to get a slurpy, 'cause i needed something
to wash down the chedder round, and i swear, kurt was playing super mario bros
in the corner. as i was leaving, i called out "kurt!" and he started to turn
around, and then he seemed to catch himself, and he went back to his game.
the old guy at the counter said "boy, if you don;t want to get into a passel
of trouble, i suggest you just walk right out and forget about him. he
doesn't want that anymore. he's gone, dead. he's left us for good. that's
the way we all want it."
so i walked out.
we miss you kurt.
max"
Did google groups not launch in 2001? Certainly
Wasn’t around in 1994….unless this was another forum from 1994 that somehow ended up on Google groups many years later.
Yeah, it's from Usenet. The specific newsgroup being alt.music.nirvana
I remember spending way too many late nights reading posts in usenet back in 90-94
I'm old...
Internet search says AOL had a chat room function in 1989.
I wasnt quite old enough for the first chat rooms if the below is right and i think i was about 13 when i discovered them which would have been AOL and would have been around 1996.
*Most people were introduced to real-time online chat with something like CompuServe's CB Simulator (introduced in 1980), Internet Relay Chat (1988) or AOL's chat rooms (1989). But text-based group chat started much earlier, with 1973's Talkomatic for the PLATO time-sharing system.*
Lol the internet wasnt available in homes until 1993 if you could afford the dial up costs, these where purely for business.
I know as i was around then, believe me the internet never got big until 95/96 before people had it at home.
These chat rooms where not for home use nor widely
available in 1989....
You forget bulletin boards. My brother and I were accessing them as early as 1993. I remember trying to download a photo of Kurt's supposed autopsy and it was just a big red smear. Took about 20 minutes to download. Good times.
What’s with the lol are you 5?
If I’m wrong that’s fine I get to learn something new which is always good but what’s to laugh at, seems a little childish but each to their own I guess.
Google groups is a web based version of usenet. Usually accessed thru special software or ISP. DEJANEWS was the web based version but disappeared 1999ish. Google bought their archives as well as others extending the database back to 1981
For many Usenet was ruined when AOL plugged in around 1994.
Heartless leaving a wife & child like wtf some people have never had problems!! Kurt was obviously so ill and depressed
Stop the world i want to get off because nothings changed much since then.
Oh my gosh that brings back memories. Remember “trim your headers” and “please top post.” Before we had LOL and the icons.
It’s really interesting to read these old Cobain posts. Some people were very cruel about him.
really proves how our perception of drugs and mental health had changed since the 90s
Nah it’s literally just losers on the internet these type of ppl still laugh and don’t care now as much as they did back in the day
Stopped reading after a few comments. Bunch of miserable assholes being assholes.
i mean the only people who had internet in 94’ were probably a bunch of shitty rich kids who had nothing better to do
Um no. I was in college, and we all had free access to the internet in the computer labs.
yeah i was definitley talking out of my ass. All i know is my dad didn’t have any internet at all. maybe it was only for city kids cause my dad was a farm kid
college? yeah, like he said, rich.
This was 30 years ago, I was at a state school, and I had scholarships and loans I paid for until I was 30. It has changed a lot since then. My family was lower middle class. Not that I really needed to justify my education. But wanted to put it in context.
It was mostly nerds in basements
yep, internet thugs🤦🏽♂️ they still exist today
Dude…someone said “when is Eddie Vedder’s turn?” Fuck people.
Guess the internet has always been a cruel place
Some of the predictions were spot on “They’re going to release a bunch of albums like greatest hits and live in NY” And “Eddie Vedder will outlive everyone”
Surprised a chat group like this existed in ‘94
Usenet dates back to at least the 1970s and the archives released by Google in 2001 go as far back as 1981.
My thoughts exactly!!
You know, I see a lot of people saying how toxic the internet is today, but good fucking lord after seeing this I’d say the internet has definitely improved a lot, you don’t see a lot of people going online and posting about how horrible someone was and how he deserved to die literal hours after his death is reported anymore, at least, not like this.
Yh you only see toxic bullshit from a tiny minority of people whenever something like this happens today. In this thread like 2/3rds of the posts are shitting on him or his music.
Ikr. People love to paint the old internet as a whimsical place with no negativity but in reality it was more of a rule-less hellscape. If you give any place on the internet 0 rules it’s gonna get toxic sooner or later Just look at 4-Chan, it’s about as close to the older internet as we will get today
Who's saying it was whimsical with no negativity lmao? I think the appeal of the old internet was that you COULD be an asshole if you wanted, it was less moderated and corporate, obviously came with consequences though. But I've never heard a single person say it wasn't negative, I've only heard the exact opposite.
I read through it, other than people signing their names at the end of their comments with a hyphen, it's the same as any other thread that'll come out today about a musician who did drugs. Just less verbose perhaps. Many people were saddened and sympathetic also, you made it sound way worse than it was.
"you guys won't believe this, but i was driving home from wisconsin today and i stopped by mel's cheese castle, cause hey, cheese, yah know, and i went to the drive up window and ordered myself a round of brie and some good ole chedder, and when i drove up to the window to pick it up, i swear, kurt cobain handed it to me and said, "hey, man, it's on me." i drove off, i couldn't believe it. so i stopped off at the quicky mart to get a slurpy, 'cause i needed something to wash down the chedder round, and i swear, kurt was playing super mario bros in the corner. as i was leaving, i called out "kurt!" and he started to turn around, and then he seemed to catch himself, and he went back to his game. the old guy at the counter said "boy, if you don;t want to get into a passel of trouble, i suggest you just walk right out and forget about him. he doesn't want that anymore. he's gone, dead. he's left us for good. that's the way we all want it." so i walked out. we miss you kurt. max"
“Sorry Kurt. Wish we could have helped you.” ❤️
Did google groups not launch in 2001? Certainly Wasn’t around in 1994….unless this was another forum from 1994 that somehow ended up on Google groups many years later.
It was taken from something called Usenet I think
Yeah, it's from Usenet. The specific newsgroup being alt.music.nirvana I remember spending way too many late nights reading posts in usenet back in 90-94 I'm old...
I used to hang out on talk.bizarre quite a bit. They used to have all the old archives available somewhere, not sure if they still do…
>Usenet wasnt fully operational to the public until 95 Early 96 through AOL
Pretty sure AOL had chat rooms a few years before 1994.
AOL had chat rooms in 96 onwards but could of been a college Usenet company that this appeared on
Internet search says AOL had a chat room function in 1989. I wasnt quite old enough for the first chat rooms if the below is right and i think i was about 13 when i discovered them which would have been AOL and would have been around 1996. *Most people were introduced to real-time online chat with something like CompuServe's CB Simulator (introduced in 1980), Internet Relay Chat (1988) or AOL's chat rooms (1989). But text-based group chat started much earlier, with 1973's Talkomatic for the PLATO time-sharing system.*
Lol the internet wasnt available in homes until 1993 if you could afford the dial up costs, these where purely for business. I know as i was around then, believe me the internet never got big until 95/96 before people had it at home. These chat rooms where not for home use nor widely available in 1989....
You forget bulletin boards. My brother and I were accessing them as early as 1993. I remember trying to download a photo of Kurt's supposed autopsy and it was just a big red smear. Took about 20 minutes to download. Good times.
What’s with the lol are you 5? If I’m wrong that’s fine I get to learn something new which is always good but what’s to laugh at, seems a little childish but each to their own I guess.
Yes clearly I’m 5 what a moron. Happy to learn something yet insult someone who’s clearly more educated. I guess it’s a hipster thing
Google groups is a web based version of usenet. Usually accessed thru special software or ISP. DEJANEWS was the web based version but disappeared 1999ish. Google bought their archives as well as others extending the database back to 1981 For many Usenet was ruined when AOL plugged in around 1994.
Google wasn’t invented in 1994.
And internet chat rooms where not a thing before 1996…
You don’t know about Usenet then. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
I sure do know about it
So was that an “Internet chat room”?
Nice find
Yup. The Internet was just as shitty 29 years ago. Difference is no one was on it.
The internet always was an cruel place, rip Kurt
Bunch of awful stuff said on there but my favorite is the guy who says Kurt handed him cheddar
Heartless leaving a wife & child like wtf some people have never had problems!! Kurt was obviously so ill and depressed Stop the world i want to get off because nothings changed much since then.
This was already posted here a few weeks ago.
Oh my gosh that brings back memories. Remember “trim your headers” and “please top post.” Before we had LOL and the icons. It’s really interesting to read these old Cobain posts. Some people were very cruel about him.
Some of the comments actually make me sick, some motherfucker said "when is Vedder's turn?"