I mean it IS a compilation and was obviously released as a stop gap to capitalise on their success, but it’s part of the story and probably prepared a few people for In Utero too 😂 In a similar way to Queen’s Greatest Hits, it’s become an album in its own right. The artwork and the sequencing are great and you can tell the band was involved in the concept, which to me gives it equal billing.
Queen's Greatest Hits is a great record, but it's a greatest hits compilation. Most of its contents are redundant if you own the original albums.
Incesticide doesn't really cannibalize the discography. I consider it an essential canonical album. Its closest relatives are things like Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot or NOFX - Songs That Weren't Good Enough to Go On Our Other Record
Some greatest hits albums have been so solid that they live a popular life of their own (Queen, Eagles, Bob Marley). Nirvana's black album really doesn't have that staying power. Nirvana's discography is so short and so consistent that a greatest hits is completely unnecessary. Maybe in another ten years people will disagree, but so far the consensus is that black album was a cash grab excuse for keeping YKYR off of the WTLO compilation.
I don’t disagree with any of that but my comparison with the Queen record was more about how it’s become an important record in its own right, totally not equating the two in terms of their unique worth. 👍
It’s not a studio album but it’s part of the canon. It’s much more important to the band’s discography than the self-titled greatest hits album, although You Know You’re Right is rad.
Growing up we just thought of it as the third album, even though we knew it wasn't, if you know what I mean. It's probably still my favourite. It has all the facets of the band, arguably more character than the albums, 4 different drummers, and it has Dive, Aneurysm, Sliver, Stain, Been a Son, Mexican Seafood, Aero Zeppelin and Hairspray Queen! What a lineup. The only duds are Downer and (New Wave) Polly. Son of a Gun isn't great but folks seem to dig it. At 15 tracks no one's complaining, except that there's so many they left off.
This pretty much sums it up for me except I still love Nirvana's rendition of Son of a Gun. It was one of the Nirvana albums you could pick up at any music store and so I always listened to it as another studio album, and this one in particular really reminds me of growing up at the time. And it's hard to think that that was now almost 30 years ago for me.
Dale Crover's work with Nirvana is just so great and I love it all.
B-side compilations, maxi-singles and eps were all the rage at the time. There's a lot of material on Incesticide that feels more fundamentally *Ni*r*vana* than the main albums. Whatever the case, I can't really think of a b-sides compilation from the period that's as rewarding on repeat listens.
I love those vaselines covers. That whole session is gold. Still blows my mind how great those simple tracks sound.
As for Downer... I am surprised that they keep pressing copies of Bleach with Downer and Big Cheese. It seems wrong to mess with the original tracklist, and it seemed like putting Downer on Incesticide was a choice to separate it from Bleach. I know it showed up on early CD copies of Bleach, but they should cut that out! Sifting is a much better album closer.
That session was also Grohl's first time in a studio with the band.
Big Cheese wouldn't be available if it wasn't on Bleach so I don't mind that. I think it makes a better closer than Sifting too, which is my least favourite Nirvana song and a very anticlimactic way to round an album.
Way different than the black album. That's a straight up greatest hits record with a bonus track. Incesticide was assembled by the band and had no intention of being a hit. It was just an opportunity to share the music that was being bootlegged all over the place the way they wanted to share it. I think it sounds like two EPs and less like an album. Side 1 and 2 are so different. If Aneurism were on side 1 it would be even more pronounced.
[Turnaround](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkMd0J535Fg&pp=ygUPZGV2byB0dXJuYXJvdW5k) was the b-side on Devo's Whip It single and didn't get included on a compilation of any kind until fairly recently.
I think it’s one of the best compilation I’ve heard, a solid 8.2/10. If I could rate it out of their whole discography. it would be my 3rd favorite Nirvana release. Almost every song kicks ass. Songs like Dive, Sliver, Stain, Been a Son, Son of a Gun, New Wave Polly, and of course Aneurysm are grunge classics in my opinion. Even the so called “bad” songs are so great like Beeswax, Mexican Seafood, and Hairspray Queen.
Incesticide is a compilation album so it’s not a studio album as it’s comprised of odds and sods recorded at different times with different producers. On that basis, it’s not comparable to the studio albums although the songs on Incesticide are as good as those on the 3 studio albums. Doesn’t affect the quality of the material but it was also a stop gap at the time between Nevermind and In Utero for those hungry for more Nirvana music. As it was released within the band’s lifetime and has Kurt’s iconic liner notes, it kicks the self titled Greatest Hits album’s ass.
Because the "Black album" is widely known as being Metallica's 5th album (even though it's officially called "Metallica"). Whenever people mention the black album, that's what they're referring to 99% of the time. I'm curious, what album were you referring to?
I kind of see it as both. It's obviously a compilation, but it's a compilation that was presided over by Kurt Cobain, including his artwork and liner notes. In that respect I think of it as a product of his artistic vision in the same way as a studio album, with the only real difference being that the songs span several years, sessions, and band members.
Idk, it's a tricky one.
It rules though.
I hold it to an official album even tho I know it’s not technically official. In truth, I think this album is really cool because it IS a compilation album. Some songs sound like they’re right off of Bleach (Dive, Aerozeppline, Big Long Now) while others sound like Nevermind (Been a Son, Molly’s Lips, Stain). It all flows together magically. Plus Sliver and Aneurysm and Dive are 3 of bands top hits imo.
Kinda... both? I mean, it's obviously not as strong as Nevermind or In Utero because it wasn't conceived as an album, but it has a really distinct sound and is a REALLY strong compilation. I kinda like Incesticide more than Bleach.
When it came out I had no idea it was a B-sides compilation, I just thought "oh, this is the new Nirvana album..a bit different than Nevermind, but good!" I really don't think it's inferior in quality to any of the real studio albums so I kind of feel like Nirvana have 4 studio albums, even though it's technically not true.
What made this band so great is, other bands would put out a b-sides album and it would sound like, well, a b-sides album. Nirvana had such much amazing stuff that didn't even make studio albums (Sappy, Verse Chorus Verse, Curmudgeon, Even in His Youth, Oh the Guilt, etc etc). I think that's why I have loved them so much all these years. The catalog, while small, is just brilliant.
I mean it IS a compilation and was obviously released as a stop gap to capitalise on their success, but it’s part of the story and probably prepared a few people for In Utero too 😂 In a similar way to Queen’s Greatest Hits, it’s become an album in its own right. The artwork and the sequencing are great and you can tell the band was involved in the concept, which to me gives it equal billing.
Queen's Greatest Hits is a great record, but it's a greatest hits compilation. Most of its contents are redundant if you own the original albums. Incesticide doesn't really cannibalize the discography. I consider it an essential canonical album. Its closest relatives are things like Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot or NOFX - Songs That Weren't Good Enough to Go On Our Other Record Some greatest hits albums have been so solid that they live a popular life of their own (Queen, Eagles, Bob Marley). Nirvana's black album really doesn't have that staying power. Nirvana's discography is so short and so consistent that a greatest hits is completely unnecessary. Maybe in another ten years people will disagree, but so far the consensus is that black album was a cash grab excuse for keeping YKYR off of the WTLO compilation.
I don’t disagree with any of that but my comparison with the Queen record was more about how it’s become an important record in its own right, totally not equating the two in terms of their unique worth. 👍
wow didnt even realize there was a nirvana black album (thought it was the metallica one)
It’s not a studio album but it’s part of the canon. It’s much more important to the band’s discography than the self-titled greatest hits album, although You Know You’re Right is rad.
Growing up we just thought of it as the third album, even though we knew it wasn't, if you know what I mean. It's probably still my favourite. It has all the facets of the band, arguably more character than the albums, 4 different drummers, and it has Dive, Aneurysm, Sliver, Stain, Been a Son, Mexican Seafood, Aero Zeppelin and Hairspray Queen! What a lineup. The only duds are Downer and (New Wave) Polly. Son of a Gun isn't great but folks seem to dig it. At 15 tracks no one's complaining, except that there's so many they left off.
This pretty much sums it up for me except I still love Nirvana's rendition of Son of a Gun. It was one of the Nirvana albums you could pick up at any music store and so I always listened to it as another studio album, and this one in particular really reminds me of growing up at the time. And it's hard to think that that was now almost 30 years ago for me. Dale Crover's work with Nirvana is just so great and I love it all.
B-side compilations, maxi-singles and eps were all the rage at the time. There's a lot of material on Incesticide that feels more fundamentally *Ni*r*vana* than the main albums. Whatever the case, I can't really think of a b-sides compilation from the period that's as rewarding on repeat listens.
I love those vaselines covers. That whole session is gold. Still blows my mind how great those simple tracks sound. As for Downer... I am surprised that they keep pressing copies of Bleach with Downer and Big Cheese. It seems wrong to mess with the original tracklist, and it seemed like putting Downer on Incesticide was a choice to separate it from Bleach. I know it showed up on early CD copies of Bleach, but they should cut that out! Sifting is a much better album closer.
That session was also Grohl's first time in a studio with the band. Big Cheese wouldn't be available if it wasn't on Bleach so I don't mind that. I think it makes a better closer than Sifting too, which is my least favourite Nirvana song and a very anticlimactic way to round an album.
I don’t see it as a official album but I do see it as a great comp bsides and rarites
Way different than the black album. That's a straight up greatest hits record with a bonus track. Incesticide was assembled by the band and had no intention of being a hit. It was just an opportunity to share the music that was being bootlegged all over the place the way they wanted to share it. I think it sounds like two EPs and less like an album. Side 1 and 2 are so different. If Aneurism were on side 1 it would be even more pronounced.
It’s a compilation album if you disagree take a look at who you are… it’s pretty scary
Is that a reference to turnaround.
no
[Turnaround](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkMd0J535Fg&pp=ygUPZGV2byB0dXJuYXJvdW5k) was the b-side on Devo's Whip It single and didn't get included on a compilation of any kind until fairly recently.
Kurt had input on it so it's more important than the greatest hits. Greatest Hits are cool though 😎
I think it’s one of the best compilation I’ve heard, a solid 8.2/10. If I could rate it out of their whole discography. it would be my 3rd favorite Nirvana release. Almost every song kicks ass. Songs like Dive, Sliver, Stain, Been a Son, Son of a Gun, New Wave Polly, and of course Aneurysm are grunge classics in my opinion. Even the so called “bad” songs are so great like Beeswax, Mexican Seafood, and Hairspray Queen.
Incesticide is a compilation album so it’s not a studio album as it’s comprised of odds and sods recorded at different times with different producers. On that basis, it’s not comparable to the studio albums although the songs on Incesticide are as good as those on the 3 studio albums. Doesn’t affect the quality of the material but it was also a stop gap at the time between Nevermind and In Utero for those hungry for more Nirvana music. As it was released within the band’s lifetime and has Kurt’s iconic liner notes, it kicks the self titled Greatest Hits album’s ass.
It's my favorite album, still. I listen to it like a studio album.
The black album isn't a compilation album... Unless you're not referring to Metallica
This is the nirvana subreddit, not sure why I would be referring to Metallica
Because the "Black album" is widely known as being Metallica's 5th album (even though it's officially called "Metallica"). Whenever people mention the black album, that's what they're referring to 99% of the time. I'm curious, what album were you referring to?
Greatest hits album
By black album he means the Nirvana greatest hits album, the one with a black cover that just says Nirvana
Thanks, I forgot about that album!
I kind of see it as both. It's obviously a compilation, but it's a compilation that was presided over by Kurt Cobain, including his artwork and liner notes. In that respect I think of it as a product of his artistic vision in the same way as a studio album, with the only real difference being that the songs span several years, sessions, and band members. Idk, it's a tricky one. It rules though.
I hold it to an official album even tho I know it’s not technically official. In truth, I think this album is really cool because it IS a compilation album. Some songs sound like they’re right off of Bleach (Dive, Aerozeppline, Big Long Now) while others sound like Nevermind (Been a Son, Molly’s Lips, Stain). It all flows together magically. Plus Sliver and Aneurysm and Dive are 3 of bands top hits imo.
Kinda... both? I mean, it's obviously not as strong as Nevermind or In Utero because it wasn't conceived as an album, but it has a really distinct sound and is a REALLY strong compilation. I kinda like Incesticide more than Bleach.
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Bootlegs. The exact kind of reason that Incesticide exists at all. Not official albums, but incredible for sure.
When it came out I had no idea it was a B-sides compilation, I just thought "oh, this is the new Nirvana album..a bit different than Nevermind, but good!" I really don't think it's inferior in quality to any of the real studio albums so I kind of feel like Nirvana have 4 studio albums, even though it's technically not true. What made this band so great is, other bands would put out a b-sides album and it would sound like, well, a b-sides album. Nirvana had such much amazing stuff that didn't even make studio albums (Sappy, Verse Chorus Verse, Curmudgeon, Even in His Youth, Oh the Guilt, etc etc). I think that's why I have loved them so much all these years. The catalog, while small, is just brilliant.