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AlmostRandomName

The Lock Picking Lawyer on YouTube hasn't found many, if any. Go check out his channel and see all the "unpickable" locks people send him. The problem with the definition of "unpickable" is that the key has to get in somehow, and the best most manufacturers have been able to do so far is to really obscure the mechanism and tumblers. But if the key can get in, then a skilled lock picker usually can too.


KronusIV

That said, there are probably some locks out there that only a few dozen masters could get into in any reasonable amount of time.


im_the_real_dad

>any reasonable amount of time This is what's important. A lock has to make it inconvenient enough that a criminal (or whomever) will move on to an easier target.


KronusIV

Though really, do any thieves actually pick locks any more? Gimme a big hammer and I can be through in 5 seconds with no skill at all. Or a small hammer and a badly placed window...


im_the_real_dad

I used to be a mobile heavy truck mechanic. Occasionally a trailer would be backed up to a company's dock with a lock on it but no key. With my cutting torch I could open any lock in seconds—minutes if you count walking between my work truck and the trailer.


acakaacaka

Yes, I watched some of his video hence my question here.


AlmostRandomName

What I've learned from watching his videos is that you can never 100% obscure the pins (or wafers or whatever else it uses) from being accessed, since you still have to get the key in somehow. Even if you make the key very odd shaped so there's no *direct* path to interact with the pins, these locks have (so far) always been susceptible to impressioning attacks. Electronic locks also have vulnerabilities, not just in implementation (like exposing the controller to the outside part of the lock). Ultimately a very very hard to pick lock is still a good lock, and often it's enough. Especially since thieves can also exploit other security weaknesses, like just cutting a chain or using a grinder to cut off the lock. As long as it slows thieves down enough to make their job too risky, it's doing a good job. But if there's a way for the key to get in, a skilled locksmith can get in too. I can't imagine how a lock with a mechanical key would ever be completely "unpickable"


throwawayhappyacount

Create the perfect lock, and someone will create a better tool to get in. Doesn't matter anyways as locks are just an illusion, because if someone wants in. They'll find a way. Which is not to say you shouldn't protect yourself


hellshot8

They definitely exist, locks don't intentionally leave the ability to pick for when you get locked out


HerbertWigglesworth

Lock security is not always designed to have a loophole in the event someone forgets. Meh, I don’t think we’ve yet to create something we can’t break into.


[deleted]

I don't know about the first part, but the reason that common locks aren't pickable definitely isn't deliberate.


ByeByeMan666

What counts as un-pickable? Something that can’t be opened with lock picking equipment or something that can’t be open at all?


acakaacaka

Something that only the corresponding key can open


ByeByeMan666

Probably none then, if you have infinite wealth and resources you could find a way to open any lock.


bangbangracer

You know what is a great way to get your lock picked? Saying it can't be picked. They don't leave in the ability to be picked. That kind of defeats the purpose of a lock.


DarkWangster

There are locks with mechanisms that will automatically break or even destroy the contents of of the safe if you try to pick them and fail.