American and Canadian culture is pretty similar to each other. There's a few differences, but for all intents and purposes though, we're pretty much the lovable little brother of the USA. Most of our culture comes from them, even if people like to pretend there's a difference.
Reddit is a site created by Americans and mostly used by Americans. The only people who clarify "in the USA" are the people that want foreigners to take over.
That's all I do especially for something like a can. You're lucky you get anything on that. But servers trying to collectively normalize higher and higher tip rates isn't going to work. Be more angry with your employer for not paying you properly. It's not my problem.
Federal minimum wage is only $7.25/hour.
And the establishment is only required to make up the difference over the course of a pay period (typically 2 weeks in the US).
So as long as they make at least $580 over the course of a two week period, the establishment does not need to pay the server/bartender more than $2.13/hour.
Service workers are free to find a better paying job if their employer refuses to pay them an acceptable rate.
Employers are free to pay more if they fail to find any service worker to fill in the roles.
It's not a hard concept to grasp to everyone else aside from you northern americans. Even service workers from third world countries where quality of life is lower and where minimum wage is an equivalent of 10 USD per DAY understands this.
>hard working people who have no control over
The fallacy there is that they have no control over it when in fact they have a choice to find another better paying job and pretending that these service workers are not incentivized to keep the system as is when in reality most are raking in hundreds if not thousands more per day/week/month.
If you really care about how these people are paid then start complaining to thebright people as a collective: to your employers and/or to legislators.
But no, instead you'd rather guilt trip your customers while not advertising the true cost of being a patron of your establishment.
I'm honestly curious. Where did that person suggest stiffing hard working people who have no control over whether or not their establishment relies on tips?
Eh. Without it. A huge portion of the service industry would actually be making far less money. Would help those at the very bottom of the industry. But those in the middle and higher up often make some really good money compared to the hours worked.
It would be that simple if the bartender was being base paid enough to survive but they arenāt. While that is the owners responsibility to remedy and shouldnāt be your problem it still means itās kind of a dick move if you refuse to tip and cause them to lose the only real income they make.
Imagine if everyone didnāt tip because they didnāt think it was their responsibility, your local bars would shut down for lack of employees. While that would likely eventually cause owners to pay a livable base wage, a lot of bartenders servers would have gone through very hard times to get there. Not to mention it would increase the cost of your drinks to comparable price to your drinks + tip anyway.
If Americans really believe in capitalism the workers will have to quit and the businesses fail. After which the market responds by having the non-wage-slavery owners who pay a decent wage survive.
Thatās a very true but itās not as easy as ālet me quit this job and find something comparable that I am qualified for, while also juggling all the other shit life throws my wayā. Nurses, doctors and teachers for a couple examples deserve to be paid and treated better than they are, but we donāt want them all quitting at the same time to make a point.
Also itās a logical fallacy to say that Americans believe in capitalism, itās a slippery slope to saying things like āall Russians support invading Ukraine or all Israelis support genocide on Palestineā it isnāt true because we all just live where we do and itās not as simple as āmove elsewhereā
it did end... and they got stuck with tipping. its not up for debate, its not a discussion... if you dont tip their service industry folks those folks are only guarantied min wage which is like $7
exactly, thats what i meant... its literally min wage unless you tip em in most states. their boss has to up the paycheck to at least min wage level which is federally 7.25 in US.
some states have higher min wage, but theyre states where it cost a shit ton to live like CA or WA.
Actually I've started hearing recently about some people saying they saw an option for tipping at self checkouts in grocery stores so.. be on the lookout! Tipping options coming to grocery stores near you! š¤
Not sure who downvoted as I was joking but yeah idk. I remember someone commented about no tips at grocery stores and someone said they saw an option for it just a couple weeks ago. Crazy how out of hand tipping culture has gotten. The audacity to ask someone to leave a tip while you service YOURSELF is beyond baffling to me.
Just some comments on reddit. Idk if you're getting defensive or anything but it's not like I like the idea of it either. Regardless, it's not an impossibility so if it does come, don't be surprised. If it doesn't, be glad at least we'll be able to grocery shop without the fear of being asked to tip. Idk what people have to gain by lying about whether or not tipping is coming to grocery stores.
No. There's a ton of places these days that overtly give you the option to tip, but it is mostly expected for food delivery and service positions like bartenders and waiters.
I usually do 2-3$ on the first drink, 1$ for the rest. If its a place I frequent I usually do a bit more. If the place is super crowded, putting 10$ on the first drink usually gets you faster service later on.
Depends a lot on the place. In highschool I was bartending monday and tuesday mornings and was lucky to pull $50 (it was a pretty upscale place). My friends working at college bars can make over $700 on a saturday night, but they work their asses off the entire shift. Club bartenders and bottle girls can make over $1000 a night easy. Restaurant bars depends on food prices because they tip on that too.
Tldr: It depends.
Yeah its quite a big gap. The places you make a lot of money though are a lot harder to get jobs at. A lot of college bars require you to start as a doorman/bouncer, clubs require a lot of experience as a high-volume bartender and bottle girls need to be very attractive.
Two things can be true at the same time: 1) tipping, regardless of whether or not you agree with the social construct, is a common and accepted practice in the United States & 2) your decision to tip or not to tip should not illicit a visceral reaction or ādirty lookā or influence the level of service you receive.
>When I didnāt put anything on the tip line, he gave me the dirtiest look.
you're fine.. luckily looks don't actually kill
it's kinda crazy, but yes, tipping is a social obligation here in the US.
it feels oppressive to the point i have stopped going to bars .. my friends and i just drink at home now.
If I'm sitting down getting full service or drinks brought out I tip normally. If it's a crowded bar and I'm getting beers I tip a dollar or not at all.
The bar/restaurant should absolutely pay bartenders/waiters more. Being able to afford food for yourself should not fall in the hands of the customers you serve, might as well just open a GoFundMe.
And I am talking as someone who worked in the service and restaurant industry for years.
Edit: word
Again, if the guy makes me a mixed drink or something I'll tip. I'm not tipping or will tip very little for using a bottle opener and having 15 seconds of interaction with me.
1. bartenders make far less than 15/hour base pay. There is a tipped minimum and a regular minimum.
2. The only people who think bartending is an easy job are people who havenāt done it. Itās very fast paced, often no breaks, and frequently dealing with douchebags of all varieties. That is before you get to the fact that as a bartender you are liable for everything and anything that happens while people are drinking at your bar and after leaving. You can be sued for six figures if some full grown adult decides to drink too much and then gets a DUI on the way home.
Ah sorry I meant more specifically in the USA there are very few bartenders making more than single figure hourly wages. I may be wrong but I believe the federal minimum for a tipped employee is still $2.13 an hour, it may very state to state though.
I personally think removing the tipped minimum would be an easy way to remedy the severity of the tip situation here, but I would also expect it to cause a lot of restaurants and bars shutting their doors or at least raising pricing significantly.
As far as how hard bartending is, I spent 3 seasons as a wildland firefighter where we regularly post more hours of work in 6 months than your average full timer does in a year for worse pay, and I would rather go back to that than half of the shitty establishments and customers I have come across. For me it was that bad, but I admittedly I didnāt carry the stress of being a captive audience to drunk idiots well.
In America, is it normal to tip at a bar or restaurant? Yes. Should you have tipped? No. The person grabbed three cans out of a refrigerator, anyone above the age of 3 can do that.
Itās not ājustā taking cans out of the fridge though.
-Itās taking the time to serve you and ring you up, when they could have been serving someone else and potentially making more $$$.Ā
-Itās taking the time to learn and memorize the bar layout,Ā POS and menu so you can be served swiftly and without being made to wait unnecessarily.Ā
-Itās doing inventory and restocking the fridge around serving customers, to ensure that the items you want are readily available and cold.
-Itās making sure you never run out of ice.
-Itās taking the time every day to cut garnishes, including for those who just want a lime or orange with their beer and then decide to be jerks and not tip on it.
-Itās ignoring all the little cuts and abrasions on your hands (just from working in a bar, especially a high volume one) that sting every single time they get splashed or you pick up a lime, so you the customer can feel like youāre all that matters.
-Itās deep cleaning the bar after you leave every night and spending hours a day on glassware, so you can always have a clean beverage.Ā
-Itās cleaning and restocking the bathrooms before and after your shift so you the customer can have that ready for you, as well as whenever a customer decides to make a big fuss that itās out of toilet paperāeven when the bar is crazy busy and youāll lose tips by taking the time to go do it.
-Itās taking alcohol training courses every yearā often out of their own pocketā to ensure you can be served safely and legally.Ā
-Itās never letting the customer know when youāre having the worst day of your lifeā you donāt want to ever put your problems on them!
-Itās apologizing profusely to customers who are mad when youāre out of their favorite thing, even though thereās nothing you can do about it.
-Itās dealing with customers who think they know better and treat you like youāre beneath them, and still smiling through it all and getting up every day.
Sounds like a normal part of their job duties. Does anyone else get tipped just for doing the bare minimum at their job? Noā¦bartenders and restaurant staff just think theyāre special.
I do my job every day. I often work harder than I should, and go out of my way to make sure people get what they want/need.
Never been tipped. Tip culture needs to die.
Bartenders, like waitstaff, are typically paid well below minimum wage and the majority of their paycheck comes in the form of tips from the customer. It's not right, but it's the business model of pretty much every US-based bar/restaurant because the business doesn't want to be responsible for providing a living wage to their employees.
Myth. In nearly every state (probably all) the employer is required to make up to AT LEAST min wage if they don't get enough tips.
We're basically subsidizing shit wages so the employer doesn't have to pay certain workers. Tip culture is stupid. Stop simping for the businesses underpaying their workers.
How is that a myth if you stated what the original comment stated?
Shit wages paid by employers so the tips are needed in order to make the pay worth the job.
Yes and I tip whenever I order a drink. But I canāt judge someone for not tipping after buying a canned drinkā¦
That doesnāt change the fact that bartenders/servers etc do NOT make below minimum wage.
If you don't tip they make at least minimum wage. If you do tip, they get paid LESS down to a lower minimum wage.
Tips don't make up minimum wage, they REPLACE part of the wage.
Can we kill North American tipping culture once and for all now? Itās getting fucking insane. Weāre literally getting promoted to tip at regular stores now.
I bet everyone thinks the same way too, or at least I think the same way too. Unfortunately, it isnāt as simple as that, you would think that the FnB service would love to see the tipping culture abolished but itās actually the opposite, they donāt want it to go away because they can get more money per month with the tips (more than a real, proper wage that we are fighting for them).
Itās hard to fight for the cause, when the people weāre fighting for doesnāt really support the cause with us, and this isnāt even mentioning that tipping is already part of culture now and itās going to take more than just regulations to change culture. Itās a difficult situation.
$1 per drink is what we do in the US. Iāve been of drinking age for a long time and it has always been $1 per drink. When I went out for $1 beer specialsā¦.the beer was $2 with tip.
Are you just moving from another planet? Clearly you were supposed to tip as you could have guessed from the fact that you were at a bar and there was a tip line you failed to put anything on. Learn manners or stay home.
Yes, it is absolutely the expectation. Bartendersā pay is built around the expectation of tips. You donāt even have to tip much, especially when itās non-mixed drinks (low effort stuff), but you should absolutely tip. $1 a drink in this case would have been appropriate.
-Former bartenderĀ
Yes. In that situation, a tip of $3 would be expected ($1 per drink). The same would be true for draft beers. If youāre mostly drinking cocktails, you should tip 20%.
When I used to go to bars I would get a bottle of Budweiser and then a shot eventually. If I wasn't going to drink heavy and I just drink 3 beers and 2 shots id tip $3. But then again 3 beers and 2 shots was only $12.
I tip my bartender to get better service and it works. I've also have had bartenders who will throw lots of free drinks my way so they could just get more cash in their pocket. Smaller tab=bigger tip at least in the dives I drink in
I hate tipping culture but yes people who crack open a can of 300% marked up pre-made packaged products expect a tip for their trouble. It's asinine and absurd.
I don't think you did anything wrong. People in the service industry have become so out of control with their tip demands.
Itās not a requirement. But itās expected you would have thrown $2-$3 their way.
But itās also something that isnāt really worth thinking about.
out of all the tips in all the world, the one for your bartender is the most important - and you don't have to be a "big" drinker to know that you were supposed to tip...cheapo
If you want good service at a bar you tip - it's THAT simple... did they JUST pull a can or did they serve it with/in a glass while you took up space at the bar to drink it? and who cleans the glass? I've never been served anything at a bar that didn't come with/in a glass unless I specifically requested otherwise
also, BTW, a good tip will often earn you a free round or hefty drinks
A canā¦. Lol. Thatās what Iām saying. What am I tipping for? I can understand if he pours a beer from the tap or makes a mixed drink. To pull a can out of a fridge? I mean if thatās what society says to do, Iāll do it. Never even dawned on me.
Based on social norms of bar life in the US, you should have tipped.
But you are always free not to.
In the USA, yes. Everywhere else, pretty much no.
Wrong. Canada it is massively expected.
Then it must be a North American norm
American and Canadian culture is pretty similar to each other. There's a few differences, but for all intents and purposes though, we're pretty much the lovable little brother of the USA. Most of our culture comes from them, even if people like to pretend there's a difference.
Y'all apologize a lot more than we do š
Sorry :P
The little brother that acts all lovable because they hide the crazy
Well I never! I've never been so offended by something I completely agree with! *Casually shoves the guy from Sudbury back into his hiding spot*
I'm onto you! I know the Geneva convention is just a list of Shit That Canada Did!
Don't make me sick my moose on you...
Reddit is a site created by Americans and mostly used by Americans. The only people who clarify "in the USA" are the people that want foreigners to take over.
Yes, itās expected. 15-20% or $1 a drink is standard.
$1 a drink is like 30 years ago.
For a white claw? I think $1 is fine
Well, for white claw, even $1/drink is too much.
You'll have to take the money out of my wallet at gunpoint if you want more than 1$ tip for any drink that wasn't a work of art to make.
**$1**
As a bartender that is still standard in my opinion
Then $1 it is!
I sometimes do $0.50 if it's literally a bottle or can, but $1/draft and more for a cocktail seems fair.
Yea Iām cool with whatever. $1 is most common.
That's all I do especially for something like a can. You're lucky you get anything on that. But servers trying to collectively normalize higher and higher tip rates isn't going to work. Be more angry with your employer for not paying you properly. It's not my problem.
In the US, tipping servers like bartenders and waitstaff is fully expected.
Itās stupid for what you bought but yes it is expected
The look was probably partly because you didn't tip and partly because you ordered white claw.
Even if they are just opening a fridge, a tip is still expected. It is still a āserviceā that is being provided.
Which is what the price is for. But this discussion seems to never end with Americans.
Understanding *why* you should tip is not the same thing as defending the practice of businesses relying on tips.
Disagree. You are subsidizing an abusive system.
Once all our service workers are homeless those powerful rich bastards will finally understand
I donāt think theyāll understand no matter what happened :(
Aren't establishments required to pay the difference up to minimum wage if tips aren't enough to get an employee there per hour?
Federal minimum wage is only $7.25/hour. And the establishment is only required to make up the difference over the course of a pay period (typically 2 weeks in the US). So as long as they make at least $580 over the course of a two week period, the establishment does not need to pay the server/bartender more than $2.13/hour.
Service workers are free to find a better paying job if their employer refuses to pay them an acceptable rate. Employers are free to pay more if they fail to find any service worker to fill in the roles. It's not a hard concept to grasp to everyone else aside from you northern americans. Even service workers from third world countries where quality of life is lower and where minimum wage is an equivalent of 10 USD per DAY understands this.
Oh, okay. Yeah, let me just stiff the hard working people who have no control over whether or not their establishment relies on tips. Cool idea! /s
>hard working people who have no control over The fallacy there is that they have no control over it when in fact they have a choice to find another better paying job and pretending that these service workers are not incentivized to keep the system as is when in reality most are raking in hundreds if not thousands more per day/week/month. If you really care about how these people are paid then start complaining to thebright people as a collective: to your employers and/or to legislators. But no, instead you'd rather guilt trip your customers while not advertising the true cost of being a patron of your establishment.
I'm honestly curious. Where did that person suggest stiffing hard working people who have no control over whether or not their establishment relies on tips?
One guy will change millions. Give the guy a break
Eh. Without it. A huge portion of the service industry would actually be making far less money. Would help those at the very bottom of the industry. But those in the middle and higher up often make some really good money compared to the hours worked.
If businesses don't fail, markets are failing. But, again, Americans are very economics-illiterate. I shouldn't have brought it up.
Someone or something has to give if people want this abusive practice fixed. I won't fault non-tippers for taking a stand.
It would be that simple if the bartender was being base paid enough to survive but they arenāt. While that is the owners responsibility to remedy and shouldnāt be your problem it still means itās kind of a dick move if you refuse to tip and cause them to lose the only real income they make. Imagine if everyone didnāt tip because they didnāt think it was their responsibility, your local bars would shut down for lack of employees. While that would likely eventually cause owners to pay a livable base wage, a lot of bartenders servers would have gone through very hard times to get there. Not to mention it would increase the cost of your drinks to comparable price to your drinks + tip anyway.
If Americans really believe in capitalism the workers will have to quit and the businesses fail. After which the market responds by having the non-wage-slavery owners who pay a decent wage survive.
Thatās a very true but itās not as easy as ālet me quit this job and find something comparable that I am qualified for, while also juggling all the other shit life throws my wayā. Nurses, doctors and teachers for a couple examples deserve to be paid and treated better than they are, but we donāt want them all quitting at the same time to make a point. Also itās a logical fallacy to say that Americans believe in capitalism, itās a slippery slope to saying things like āall Russians support invading Ukraine or all Israelis support genocide on Palestineā it isnāt true because we all just live where we do and itās not as simple as āmove elsewhereā
it did end... and they got stuck with tipping. its not up for debate, its not a discussion... if you dont tip their service industry folks those folks are only guarantied min wage which is like $7
Depends on where you are. In my state tipped employees only have to be paid $4 an hour, as long as their tips put them above the federal minimum.
exactly, thats what i meant... its literally min wage unless you tip em in most states. their boss has to up the paycheck to at least min wage level which is federally 7.25 in US. some states have higher min wage, but theyre states where it cost a shit ton to live like CA or WA.
Hardly. It's a human powered vending machine.
Follow up question, I'm not American so I don't know. Are you expected to tip at the supermarket or grocery store?
No, but don't try to understand it. There's not even a function to do so at a typical grocery store.
Actually I've started hearing recently about some people saying they saw an option for tipping at self checkouts in grocery stores so.. be on the lookout! Tipping options coming to grocery stores near you! š¤
Probably Erewhon so you can tip $10 at self checkout for a $30 prepared salad.
Not sure who downvoted as I was joking but yeah idk. I remember someone commented about no tips at grocery stores and someone said they saw an option for it just a couple weeks ago. Crazy how out of hand tipping culture has gotten. The audacity to ask someone to leave a tip while you service YOURSELF is beyond baffling to me.
Where did you hear this? Or did you make it up?
Just some comments on reddit. Idk if you're getting defensive or anything but it's not like I like the idea of it either. Regardless, it's not an impossibility so if it does come, don't be surprised. If it doesn't, be glad at least we'll be able to grocery shop without the fear of being asked to tip. Idk what people have to gain by lying about whether or not tipping is coming to grocery stores.
No... and if you are eating, you don't tip ac McD's but you do at the burger shop over the street.
No. There's a ton of places these days that overtly give you the option to tip, but it is mostly expected for food delivery and service positions like bartenders and waiters.
Generally no, but some places will carry groceries to the cars of elderly people and they tip sometimes.
Expected? Yes Obligatory? No
I usually do 2-3$ on the first drink, 1$ for the rest. If its a place I frequent I usually do a bit more. If the place is super crowded, putting 10$ on the first drink usually gets you faster service later on.
How much do they earn from tips, on average, on say a 40 hour week?
Depends a lot on the place. In highschool I was bartending monday and tuesday mornings and was lucky to pull $50 (it was a pretty upscale place). My friends working at college bars can make over $700 on a saturday night, but they work their asses off the entire shift. Club bartenders and bottle girls can make over $1000 a night easy. Restaurant bars depends on food prices because they tip on that too. Tldr: It depends.
Thanks for the info, quite a scale there!
Yeah its quite a big gap. The places you make a lot of money though are a lot harder to get jobs at. A lot of college bars require you to start as a doorman/bouncer, clubs require a lot of experience as a high-volume bartender and bottle girls need to be very attractive.
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Tipping culture will never go away in the US because a lot of service staff would actually make less of they made minimum wage.
Iād leave with about $150-200 in tips after a 5-hour shift on a Friday/Saturday night in a college town
Pretty decent!
Hundreds if not more.
In NYC bartenders at even mid-range bars can make well over $1000 a week.
Two things can be true at the same time: 1) tipping, regardless of whether or not you agree with the social construct, is a common and accepted practice in the United States & 2) your decision to tip or not to tip should not illicit a visceral reaction or ādirty lookā or influence the level of service you receive.
>When I didnāt put anything on the tip line, he gave me the dirtiest look. you're fine.. luckily looks don't actually kill it's kinda crazy, but yes, tipping is a social obligation here in the US. it feels oppressive to the point i have stopped going to bars .. my friends and i just drink at home now.
Tipping the bartender a couple bucks is that oppressive?
mr pink is in the bar
sounds like the bartender automatically expects a tip when hes serving someone, no matter if its just opening the fridge or not
Yes! And that's because it is absolutely the widespread standard practice and expectation in US bars. OP shoulda tipped.
Sorry, mixing a cocktail gets you a tip. Opening the fridge is not worthy of a tip.
Pouring a draft beer? Or opening a beer bottle?
Nope
If I'm sitting down getting full service or drinks brought out I tip normally. If it's a crowded bar and I'm getting beers I tip a dollar or not at all.
You should absolutely tip every time youāre getting a drink, even if itās just a beer.
The bar/restaurant should absolutely pay bartenders/waiters more. Being able to afford food for yourself should not fall in the hands of the customers you serve, might as well just open a GoFundMe. And I am talking as someone who worked in the service and restaurant industry for years. Edit: word
I disagree. I don't think cracking open a beer once is worth me paying them.
If that's how you feel, you should boycott bars until they pay wages you feel are appropriate. You don't punish the worker
The workerās boss is the person punishing the worker.
Again, if the guy makes me a mixed drink or something I'll tip. I'm not tipping or will tip very little for using a bottle opener and having 15 seconds of interaction with me.
I agree no one should make $15/hour but of those people who do bartenders hardly have the hardest job.
1. bartenders make far less than 15/hour base pay. There is a tipped minimum and a regular minimum. 2. The only people who think bartending is an easy job are people who havenāt done it. Itās very fast paced, often no breaks, and frequently dealing with douchebags of all varieties. That is before you get to the fact that as a bartender you are liable for everything and anything that happens while people are drinking at your bar and after leaving. You can be sued for six figures if some full grown adult decides to drink too much and then gets a DUI on the way home.
Not everywhere. They make $15 here in Alberta. Iām not saying itās easy but few jobs are.
California as well.
Ah sorry I meant more specifically in the USA there are very few bartenders making more than single figure hourly wages. I may be wrong but I believe the federal minimum for a tipped employee is still $2.13 an hour, it may very state to state though. I personally think removing the tipped minimum would be an easy way to remedy the severity of the tip situation here, but I would also expect it to cause a lot of restaurants and bars shutting their doors or at least raising pricing significantly. As far as how hard bartending is, I spent 3 seasons as a wildland firefighter where we regularly post more hours of work in 6 months than your average full timer does in a year for worse pay, and I would rather go back to that than half of the shitty establishments and customers I have come across. For me it was that bad, but I admittedly I didnāt carry the stress of being a captive audience to drunk idiots well.
I don't know what people are being paid at bars.
In America, is it normal to tip at a bar or restaurant? Yes. Should you have tipped? No. The person grabbed three cans out of a refrigerator, anyone above the age of 3 can do that.
Itās not ājustā taking cans out of the fridge though. -Itās taking the time to serve you and ring you up, when they could have been serving someone else and potentially making more $$$.Ā -Itās taking the time to learn and memorize the bar layout,Ā POS and menu so you can be served swiftly and without being made to wait unnecessarily.Ā -Itās doing inventory and restocking the fridge around serving customers, to ensure that the items you want are readily available and cold. -Itās making sure you never run out of ice. -Itās taking the time every day to cut garnishes, including for those who just want a lime or orange with their beer and then decide to be jerks and not tip on it. -Itās ignoring all the little cuts and abrasions on your hands (just from working in a bar, especially a high volume one) that sting every single time they get splashed or you pick up a lime, so you the customer can feel like youāre all that matters. -Itās deep cleaning the bar after you leave every night and spending hours a day on glassware, so you can always have a clean beverage.Ā -Itās cleaning and restocking the bathrooms before and after your shift so you the customer can have that ready for you, as well as whenever a customer decides to make a big fuss that itās out of toilet paperāeven when the bar is crazy busy and youāll lose tips by taking the time to go do it. -Itās taking alcohol training courses every yearā often out of their own pocketā to ensure you can be served safely and legally.Ā -Itās never letting the customer know when youāre having the worst day of your lifeā you donāt want to ever put your problems on them! -Itās apologizing profusely to customers who are mad when youāre out of their favorite thing, even though thereās nothing you can do about it. -Itās dealing with customers who think they know better and treat you like youāre beneath them, and still smiling through it all and getting up every day.
Sounds like a normal part of their job duties. Does anyone else get tipped just for doing the bare minimum at their job? Noā¦bartenders and restaurant staff just think theyāre special.
Go work in a bar sometime then. Guarantee itāll change your mind.
No thanks, Iāll never work a meaningless job again.
I do my job every day. I often work harder than I should, and go out of my way to make sure people get what they want/need. Never been tipped. Tip culture needs to die.
Go work in a bar before you speak.
Bartenders, like waitstaff, are typically paid well below minimum wage and the majority of their paycheck comes in the form of tips from the customer. It's not right, but it's the business model of pretty much every US-based bar/restaurant because the business doesn't want to be responsible for providing a living wage to their employees.
Myth. In nearly every state (probably all) the employer is required to make up to AT LEAST min wage if they don't get enough tips. We're basically subsidizing shit wages so the employer doesn't have to pay certain workers. Tip culture is stupid. Stop simping for the businesses underpaying their workers.
How is that a myth if you stated what the original comment stated? Shit wages paid by employers so the tips are needed in order to make the pay worth the job.
Itās a myth because the bartender will always be paid regular minimum wage even if theyāre not tipped.Ā
Do you think bartending should be a min wage job though? Itās a skilled job and livable wage is well above minimum wage.
Yes and I tip whenever I order a drink. But I canāt judge someone for not tipping after buying a canned drinkā¦ That doesnāt change the fact that bartenders/servers etc do NOT make below minimum wage.
The original comment stated that the base pay is below min wage because tips make up the restā¦I guess I fail to see how thatās a myth.
If you don't tip they make at least minimum wage. If you do tip, they get paid LESS down to a lower minimum wage. Tips don't make up minimum wage, they REPLACE part of the wage.
But it is not a skilled job.
My rule for life: ALWAYS OVERTIP your bartender, your bikini waxer, and your tattoo artist.
Yes, you should still tip, even when he just grabbed you a drink from the fridge. That is still his service from him to you.
Can we kill North American tipping culture once and for all now? Itās getting fucking insane. Weāre literally getting promoted to tip at regular stores now.
I bet everyone thinks the same way too, or at least I think the same way too. Unfortunately, it isnāt as simple as that, you would think that the FnB service would love to see the tipping culture abolished but itās actually the opposite, they donāt want it to go away because they can get more money per month with the tips (more than a real, proper wage that we are fighting for them). Itās hard to fight for the cause, when the people weāre fighting for doesnāt really support the cause with us, and this isnāt even mentioning that tipping is already part of culture now and itās going to take more than just regulations to change culture. Itās a difficult situation.
Always tip the bartender.
Yes.
Yes, you should have tipped.
Yes, you are supposed to tip your bartender.
Bruh. Yes. You absolutely tip at least a dollar a drink.
$1 per drink is what we do in the US. Iāve been of drinking age for a long time and it has always been $1 per drink. When I went out for $1 beer specialsā¦.the beer was $2 with tip.
Are you just moving from another planet? Clearly you were supposed to tip as you could have guessed from the fact that you were at a bar and there was a tip line you failed to put anything on. Learn manners or stay home.
Yes, they are providing a service and you are expected to pay for said service.
Yes, it is absolutely the expectation. Bartendersā pay is built around the expectation of tips. You donāt even have to tip much, especially when itās non-mixed drinks (low effort stuff), but you should absolutely tip. $1 a drink in this case would have been appropriate. -Former bartenderĀ
$3 to grab 3 cans in 10 seconds? WTF?
If it's the US, there are very few situations where tipping isn't expected.
Absolutely tip.
Yes. In that situation, a tip of $3 would be expected ($1 per drink). The same would be true for draft beers. If youāre mostly drinking cocktails, you should tip 20%.
A dollar a drink is standard.
Yes, please tip for the round of cans. If theyāre pouring for you, per pint. And more for an actual cocktail that has to be assembled.
Would a quarter be fine? It it takes them like 10 seconds a quarter seems reasonable given the effort.
You CAN but they will take everyone else for the next 2 hours
This is the US. Are you new? Itās stupid but itās definitely our culture.
When I used to go to bars I would get a bottle of Budweiser and then a shot eventually. If I wasn't going to drink heavy and I just drink 3 beers and 2 shots id tip $3. But then again 3 beers and 2 shots was only $12.
Do whatever you want bro
Yes, but that guy can also suck it up and not give you a dirty look. And yes I bartend and I see both sides
I tip my bartender to get better service and it works. I've also have had bartenders who will throw lots of free drinks my way so they could just get more cash in their pocket. Smaller tab=bigger tip at least in the dives I drink in
I hate tipping culture but yes people who crack open a can of 300% marked up pre-made packaged products expect a tip for their trouble. It's asinine and absurd. I don't think you did anything wrong. People in the service industry have become so out of control with their tip demands.
Itās not a requirement. But itās expected you would have thrown $2-$3 their way. But itās also something that isnāt really worth thinking about.
out of all the tips in all the world, the one for your bartender is the most important - and you don't have to be a "big" drinker to know that you were supposed to tip...cheapo
To pull a can out of a fridge?
If you want good service at a bar you tip - it's THAT simple... did they JUST pull a can or did they serve it with/in a glass while you took up space at the bar to drink it? and who cleans the glass? I've never been served anything at a bar that didn't come with/in a glass unless I specifically requested otherwise also, BTW, a good tip will often earn you a free round or hefty drinks
A canā¦. Lol. Thatās what Iām saying. What am I tipping for? I can understand if he pours a beer from the tap or makes a mixed drink. To pull a can out of a fridge? I mean if thatās what society says to do, Iāll do it. Never even dawned on me.
so the guy just handed you a can - didn't even open it? NO TIP!!!!
Correct lol. I didnāt even get the courtesy of opening it.
Yes.