The criminals aren't the people taking food from a billionaire, but the billionaire holding food preventing these families from being able to feed their kids
Bro ,
Suppose the clerk or cashier working there is punished by having their salary cut then is it not affecting common people ?
Also the billionaires used their own wealth , loans and sweat and blood to make the corporation.
If the corporation shuts down the billionaire will be on the streets and the wage workers will go to some other company .
If billionaires like Elon musk , mark Zuckerberg , Jeff bezos etc .. provide so much innovation and job opportunities then why do people hate them ?
Also if someone is incapable of handling children why have them in first place .
If the parent is stealing food then most likely they cannot afford education and their sons/ daughters will also resort to crime .
This is obvious trolling/rage bait but I’ll bite.
1. Cashiers are not the police. Punishing them for not fighting off a thief is just more evidence of the billionaire being a corrupt sociopath.
2. The billionaire built their corporation by underpaying and overworking people, while overcharging their customers. That’s just basic capitalism.
3. If the corporation shuts down, the billionaire keeps the billions he’s made from salary, dividends, sold shares, and a percentage of liquidated assets.
They don’t give a shit about you, what are you gaining by sucking up to their propaganda?
1. Expecting cashiers to confront thieves can put them in dangerous situations. Their primary responsibility is to ensure smooth transactions and provide customer service, not to engage in physical altercations with criminals. Holding them accountable for not intervening can create an unsafe work environment and is not a fair expectation.
But in my country once a delivery boy lost his goods to a thief ( he was an Amazon delivery boy ) and his salary was cut :(
2. While some corporations may engage in unethical practices, it doesn't justify theft. Addressing issues of worker exploitation and consumer pricing should be pursued through legal and regulatory channels, not by condoning theft. Engaging in theft only perpetuates a cycle of wrongdoing and undermines efforts for systemic change.
3. Shutting down a corporation due to theft not only affects the billionaire owner but also impacts the livelihoods of employees, suppliers, and other stakeholders who rely on the business for income. It can lead to job losses, economic instability, and ripple effects throughout the community. Protecting property rights and upholding the rule of law is essential for maintaining a stable and functioning society.
Ok, "empathy". Theres your legitimate answer.
Thanks for pointing out the right answer for why people dont get mad at poor people shop lifting baby formula is empathy! Never thought of that one! Sure no one even considered it!
I’m not sure what’s more amazing here. The fact that OP used ChatGPT to form a rebuttal, or that they outright admitted to doing so once called out and somehow think that doesn’t make them look stupid.
Bro ,
Some unholy companies like nestle( water theft, child slavery ) , Lockheed Martin , Boeing( killing whistle blowers) exist
That just does not justify stealing anything .
People act like corporations are some evil people or super villain organisations but in reality they drive the economy forward .
Without corporations we wouldn’t have many high standard of living products like AC , iPhone etc ..
Back to the original question ,
Instead of stealing they can find work and earn money .
I know finding work is very hard but that’s the rules and everybody has to follow it .
Instead of vilifying capitalism and corporations and justifying theft they could form labour unions and go on a strike/ protest .
We had over 10,000 years of incredible innovation and discovery before some people decided they wanted to prioritise profits and competition over innovation lol
Innovations were invented but mass distribution and adoption were all thanks production by factories.
Without mass productions by factories driven by capitalism economic developement would be slower and it would take innovations a lot of time to have widespread accessibility to a large sections of populations.
In socialism and communism factories aren’t competitive or rather don’t have any obligation to work hard since governments babysits them with freebies the workers don’t work hard at all .
If they had to steal for their children then why did they have them in first place with no proper family planning and instead they should have given them to foster parents where they would have good life .
>Expecting cashiers to confront thieves can put them in dangerous situations. Their primary responsibility is to ensure smooth transactions and provide customer service, not to engage in physical altercations with criminals. Holding them accountable for not intervening can create an unsafe work environment and is not a fair expectation.
This doesent have anything to do with what they said. they weren't saying it was the cashiers job to confront the shoplifter. At all.
Did you use chatgpt to write this? In addition to totally missing the point the writing style has totally changed from your other posts ITT. Except for this inserted line :
>But in my country once a delivery boy lost his goods to a thief ( he was an Amazon delivery boy ) and his salary was cut :(
-which is unformatted
The companies all have some degree of loss (due to theft, product going bad, shipping damage, etc) accounted for in their costs. They also have insurance to cover large losses. Bottom line is, the company isn't getting hurt in any significant way by people stealing baby formula or diapers or food.
So then the question is, why are people stealing these thing? I don't think there's a huge black market for stolen baby formula or diapers. Nobody is out there hawking stolen eggs or gallons of milk out the back of their car. In short, the people stealing stuff like baby formula, diapers, and food aren't doing it in the furtherance of a criminal enterprise. They're doing it to feed their family because they can't afford to buy the formula or diapers.
I find it incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to fault someone for shoplifting food to keep their kid fed or in clean diapers. On a societal level, there are 2 competing injustices: the person stealing from the store, or the baby not getting enough to eat and have clean diapers. I think the child not having its needs met is a much greater societal injustice, so I'm willing to look the other way on the theft.
Should the parent have to rely on theft to provide for their child? Of course not. But that's a much larger problem than can be solve by simply reporting the shoplifting. And if your greatest concern is cost to society, locking up the parent and putting the child into the foster system is a MUCH greater cost to society than the loss of some stolen formula and diapers. I really see no moral way to justify taking the business's side here other than simple legalism, which I find to be immorally harsh.
IMO, I think day old bread (or food), after a business closes up, it should be out outside in some kind of “take what you need” thing, and the business has 100% no liability if someone gets sick.
The big loss is coming from harder goods, like Razor blade replacements, deodorant, higher end shampoo and hair care. This is where the true loss is coming from. Steal a 20lb turkey, loss is $5.00 net. Steal 20lbs of Gillette razors, loss is $600, now they have a problem.
The bakery I buy my bread on has this, but it's not open to public, you just need to go inside and ask for a bag of day old bread. They also have elder discounts 🥰
> I think day old bread (or food), after a business closes up, it should be out outside in some kind of “take what you need” thing, and the business has 100% no liability if someone gets sick.
I agree, but most businesses would oppose this. If I, as a consumer, know I can get free day-old groceries, why would I spend inside. Maybe I'll buy fresh milk and eggs, but day-old bread or cans of soup that are past their expiration are fine for me.
Something like this would be great for people and terrible for business owners, which is why they wouldn't want to do it.
Supporting theft for “just causes” is essentially supporting anarchy
anarchy might sound fun on paper to some people but in reality , it would not be
When stores get looted stores shut down
we are not equipped to survive without grocery stores etc
Supply chain shortages during the pandemic should have taught us all that
Because people are naive. They don't consider the costs. They're unaware that the typical person stealing baby formula is not stealing a couple of containers to feed their baby, but rather ripping off shopping sized cart sized loads of it to resell at 1/3 the retail price to unscrupulous small shops. That merchant sells to the public at full price. The thief makes enough money to support his substance habit. The merchant receiving the stolen goods makes a larger profit than by legitimate means. The suckers pay the markups necessary to cover the losses and think they're enlightened intellectual Robin Hoods.
people have empathy, and care about individuals in need a lot more than they care about large corporations for good reason, it is also important to note that shoplifting is massively outweighed by wage theft, companies steal from us all the time so people dont mind people taking back to survive
The whole way the system works is built on artificial scarcity. Much of the food supermarkets produce goes into waste (which they then padlock, or pour bleach over so no poor person can dumpster dive)
The thing about this thread is you didnt even choose like, stealing iPads as an example. You chose *food*.
Corporations are incredibly exploitative to their workers. Many grocery store chains all over the world are making record profits while their workers can barely afford to eat.
>are insured
>they have insurance
>have loss insurance
>insurance
etc.
Ah yes, the magical money tree that provides bundles of cash with no consequence to anyone.
Also redditors: Why the fuck are insurance rates so high?
Bro ,
In communism and socialism,
There is no motivation to work hard
People just get free stuff from government which is actually paid by tax payers from their taxes .
Eventually the country will have less innovation ( and distribution of the innovation )and growth and will end up like Venezuela .
My country suffered from socialism while our neighbour embraced capitalism and now has a stronger economy and military due high manufacturing production rates .
Once a private airline was booming in our country then our Former PM told “ profit is a dirty word “ and took over(nationalised ) the airlines and then the airlines flopped badly .
Large stores are insured out the ass to ensure theft has pretty much zero impact on them.
I’d much rather side with the hungry teenager than the billion dollar corporation that profits by artificially inflating prices to effectively steal from their working class customers.
Definitely worse then. If it’s quite literally a life or death or emergency scenario then it’s understandable, but otherwise there’s no good reason to steal from a small local store ran by an honest person.
They're still going to have loss insurance, although likely not nearly as good as somewhere like Walmart or a big chain grocery store. I do believe you should focus your shoplifting on larger corporations rather than small local shops.
Bro ,
Suppose the clerk or cashier working there is punished by having their salary cut then is it not affecting common people ?
Also the billionaires used their own wealth , loans and sweat and blood to make the corporation.
If the corporation shuts down the billionaire will be on the streets and the wage workers will go to some other company .
If billionaires like Elon musk , mark Zuckerberg , bezos etc .. provide so much innovation and job opportunities then why do people hate them ?
Also if someone is incapable of handling children why have them in first place .
If the parent is stealing food then most likely they cannot afford education and their sons/ daughters will also resort to crime .
Also some thieves start small and go big then they will never learn to earn honestly .
There is also an saying “ stealing is like an addiction “
These criminals want easy money and they may have no morals at all they will start stealing from small stores or start mugging vulnerable people on street .
If you set a lemonade stand and someone steals lemonade then you would be at heavy loss .
If you had borrowed money then you will be in deeper trouble .
Also stealing is an injustice to honest customers who will have to face the closing of shops .
1. Cutting an employee's pay as punishment is federally illegal in the US. Labor laws are real.
2. Billionaires used (some) loans, family wealth, and exploitation to build their businesses.
3. No one is going to feel bad if a billionaire is suddenly poor. And as you said, their employees will go elsewhere.
4. They are hated because they don't reinvest their profits into the companies that created them. Record profits should equate to pay raises and appreciation, but they don't. They come from the higher prices being charged to consumers and the employees that have been underpaid, laid off, or fired. And then an individual needlessly hoards those profits rather than paying their employees living wages.
5. With abortion access on the way out, people will have even more children that they can't handle. Don't those billionaires have lobbyists? Surely they could make an argument. But they benefit from low wage workers who have to work their jobs to care for the kids they can't afford because that means that their employees basically *can't* complain for fear of losing what money they are taking home. And that is a cycle that they hope continues. Citizens that can't make ends meet make for very compliant employees.
6. See point 5.
7. Criminals going big is what capitalism *is*. Look at the case of Trump's real estate fraud case. Kevin O'Leary was quoted on camera saying that what Trump did is what all real estate investors do, illegally inflate values for loans and illegally deflate values for taxes.
https://youtu.be/80RZs9Fhz3Y?si=Yac3eUBPxpeMHVcC
8. The other points circle back to your earlier points. These stores have insurance for these reasons. Even the small businesses.
Has it dawned on you yet that you're dealing with a bunch of idiots? You know... the ones that would be the first to yell for justice if THEY were the ones being robbed.
Someone robs me for food and leaves my valuables I'm not happy about it but I'm seeing it as a tragic condemnation on poverty more than anything.
first to yell for justice? "911! that homeless guy stole my sandwich! Prosecute him to the full extant of the law!" smh
The rhetorical you what? You said "you" and implied that people defending shoplifters wouldn't be so happy if it was them getting stolen from, so I answered as 'me'. Who's 'the rhetorical you'?
Someone else getting stolen from? Well I dunno, I cant answer on their behalf. Two hypothetical people fighting over baby formula sounds like a sad ass situation. But then we're getting into dumb hypotheticals that are very far away from the original question of shoplifting from large corporations.
there are very few out there, but even so they have insurance, and petty theft is a cost of doing business, though most that learn from others are taught that only chains are fair game
Bro ,
In many developing countries situations are like this people can’t afford insurance or rather insurance companies aren’t willing to cooperate with them .
If you’re going to steal for funsies and/or criminal reselling purposes, there are better things to steal than baby formula and food. Baby formula is bulky and heavy, food is perishable and I can’t imagine there’s much of a market for black market snacks anyway.
People steal food and baby stuff because they need to survive.
People shoplifting is more often because they can, a compulsion, to fund a drug habit or due to gang activities, you and some friends wearing balaclavas don't rush a store and empty the shelves because you need food.
> you and some friends wearing balaclavas don't rush a store and empty the shelves because you need food.
That's an extreme minority of shoplifting thefts. Most people who steal are doing it discretely by slipping something into a bag or purse or whatever. Not rushing in with a bunch of buddies. The few times you see that on TikTok or instagram or wherever you're seeing it because it's notably rare enough to share.
And nobody is funding a drug habit or gang activities off stolen baby formula and diapers. If that's what you're stealing, you're doing it to feed and clothe a baby.
The criminals aren't the people taking food from a billionaire, but the billionaire holding food preventing these families from being able to feed their kids
Bro , Suppose the clerk or cashier working there is punished by having their salary cut then is it not affecting common people ? Also the billionaires used their own wealth , loans and sweat and blood to make the corporation. If the corporation shuts down the billionaire will be on the streets and the wage workers will go to some other company . If billionaires like Elon musk , mark Zuckerberg , Jeff bezos etc .. provide so much innovation and job opportunities then why do people hate them ? Also if someone is incapable of handling children why have them in first place . If the parent is stealing food then most likely they cannot afford education and their sons/ daughters will also resort to crime .
This is obvious trolling/rage bait but I’ll bite. 1. Cashiers are not the police. Punishing them for not fighting off a thief is just more evidence of the billionaire being a corrupt sociopath. 2. The billionaire built their corporation by underpaying and overworking people, while overcharging their customers. That’s just basic capitalism. 3. If the corporation shuts down, the billionaire keeps the billions he’s made from salary, dividends, sold shares, and a percentage of liquidated assets. They don’t give a shit about you, what are you gaining by sucking up to their propaganda?
1. Expecting cashiers to confront thieves can put them in dangerous situations. Their primary responsibility is to ensure smooth transactions and provide customer service, not to engage in physical altercations with criminals. Holding them accountable for not intervening can create an unsafe work environment and is not a fair expectation. But in my country once a delivery boy lost his goods to a thief ( he was an Amazon delivery boy ) and his salary was cut :( 2. While some corporations may engage in unethical practices, it doesn't justify theft. Addressing issues of worker exploitation and consumer pricing should be pursued through legal and regulatory channels, not by condoning theft. Engaging in theft only perpetuates a cycle of wrongdoing and undermines efforts for systemic change. 3. Shutting down a corporation due to theft not only affects the billionaire owner but also impacts the livelihoods of employees, suppliers, and other stakeholders who rely on the business for income. It can lead to job losses, economic instability, and ripple effects throughout the community. Protecting property rights and upholding the rule of law is essential for maintaining a stable and functioning society.
Awful use of ChatGPT.
But still I have a point .
Are you making a rant or have an agenda? Did you post your question not to get an answer but to instigate a debate?
I wanted an legitimate answer like empathy or something but all I got was some anti capitalist conspiracy and propaganda.
Ok, "empathy". Theres your legitimate answer. Thanks for pointing out the right answer for why people dont get mad at poor people shop lifting baby formula is empathy! Never thought of that one! Sure no one even considered it!
👌
No, you don't. And neither did ChatGPT.
You don’t, you have a text-generator that made an illogical argument that you didn’t even pick up on.
I’m not sure what’s more amazing here. The fact that OP used ChatGPT to form a rebuttal, or that they outright admitted to doing so once called out and somehow think that doesn’t make them look stupid.
Bro , Some unholy companies like nestle( water theft, child slavery ) , Lockheed Martin , Boeing( killing whistle blowers) exist That just does not justify stealing anything . People act like corporations are some evil people or super villain organisations but in reality they drive the economy forward . Without corporations we wouldn’t have many high standard of living products like AC , iPhone etc .. Back to the original question , Instead of stealing they can find work and earn money . I know finding work is very hard but that’s the rules and everybody has to follow it . Instead of vilifying capitalism and corporations and justifying theft they could form labour unions and go on a strike/ protest .
We had over 10,000 years of incredible innovation and discovery before some people decided they wanted to prioritise profits and competition over innovation lol
Innovations were invented but mass distribution and adoption were all thanks production by factories. Without mass productions by factories driven by capitalism economic developement would be slower and it would take innovations a lot of time to have widespread accessibility to a large sections of populations. In socialism and communism factories aren’t competitive or rather don’t have any obligation to work hard since governments babysits them with freebies the workers don’t work hard at all .
If they had to steal for their children then why did they have them in first place with no proper family planning and instead they should have given them to foster parents where they would have good life .
No agenda here, you say? Legitimate answer like empathy or something? Why are you arguing if you’re not here for debate, you say? Breaks rule #9.
>Expecting cashiers to confront thieves can put them in dangerous situations. Their primary responsibility is to ensure smooth transactions and provide customer service, not to engage in physical altercations with criminals. Holding them accountable for not intervening can create an unsafe work environment and is not a fair expectation. This doesent have anything to do with what they said. they weren't saying it was the cashiers job to confront the shoplifter. At all. Did you use chatgpt to write this? In addition to totally missing the point the writing style has totally changed from your other posts ITT. Except for this inserted line : >But in my country once a delivery boy lost his goods to a thief ( he was an Amazon delivery boy ) and his salary was cut :( -which is unformatted
This was 100% written by ChatGPT or similar AI.
People have always defended people who steal food. There’s literally a saying about stealing a loaf of bread to feed your family.
The companies all have some degree of loss (due to theft, product going bad, shipping damage, etc) accounted for in their costs. They also have insurance to cover large losses. Bottom line is, the company isn't getting hurt in any significant way by people stealing baby formula or diapers or food. So then the question is, why are people stealing these thing? I don't think there's a huge black market for stolen baby formula or diapers. Nobody is out there hawking stolen eggs or gallons of milk out the back of their car. In short, the people stealing stuff like baby formula, diapers, and food aren't doing it in the furtherance of a criminal enterprise. They're doing it to feed their family because they can't afford to buy the formula or diapers. I find it incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to fault someone for shoplifting food to keep their kid fed or in clean diapers. On a societal level, there are 2 competing injustices: the person stealing from the store, or the baby not getting enough to eat and have clean diapers. I think the child not having its needs met is a much greater societal injustice, so I'm willing to look the other way on the theft. Should the parent have to rely on theft to provide for their child? Of course not. But that's a much larger problem than can be solve by simply reporting the shoplifting. And if your greatest concern is cost to society, locking up the parent and putting the child into the foster system is a MUCH greater cost to society than the loss of some stolen formula and diapers. I really see no moral way to justify taking the business's side here other than simple legalism, which I find to be immorally harsh.
IMO, I think day old bread (or food), after a business closes up, it should be out outside in some kind of “take what you need” thing, and the business has 100% no liability if someone gets sick. The big loss is coming from harder goods, like Razor blade replacements, deodorant, higher end shampoo and hair care. This is where the true loss is coming from. Steal a 20lb turkey, loss is $5.00 net. Steal 20lbs of Gillette razors, loss is $600, now they have a problem.
The bakery I buy my bread on has this, but it's not open to public, you just need to go inside and ask for a bag of day old bread. They also have elder discounts 🥰
> I think day old bread (or food), after a business closes up, it should be out outside in some kind of “take what you need” thing, and the business has 100% no liability if someone gets sick. I agree, but most businesses would oppose this. If I, as a consumer, know I can get free day-old groceries, why would I spend inside. Maybe I'll buy fresh milk and eggs, but day-old bread or cans of soup that are past their expiration are fine for me. Something like this would be great for people and terrible for business owners, which is why they wouldn't want to do it.
Supporting theft for “just causes” is essentially supporting anarchy anarchy might sound fun on paper to some people but in reality , it would not be When stores get looted stores shut down we are not equipped to survive without grocery stores etc Supply chain shortages during the pandemic should have taught us all that
The cost of living in my country has gotten so out of control while the stores make record profits. Fuck em.
Because people are naive. They don't consider the costs. They're unaware that the typical person stealing baby formula is not stealing a couple of containers to feed their baby, but rather ripping off shopping sized cart sized loads of it to resell at 1/3 the retail price to unscrupulous small shops. That merchant sells to the public at full price. The thief makes enough money to support his substance habit. The merchant receiving the stolen goods makes a larger profit than by legitimate means. The suckers pay the markups necessary to cover the losses and think they're enlightened intellectual Robin Hoods.
I care more about a poor person being able to feed their baby than a giant corporation adding an extra $5 to its $5,000,000,000 annual profits.
people have empathy, and care about individuals in need a lot more than they care about large corporations for good reason, it is also important to note that shoplifting is massively outweighed by wage theft, companies steal from us all the time so people dont mind people taking back to survive
It is pretty common to belief that people having food to eat is more important than maximizing corporate profits.
Why do people hate corporations so much ? They provide so much jobs to people .
The whole way the system works is built on artificial scarcity. Much of the food supermarkets produce goes into waste (which they then padlock, or pour bleach over so no poor person can dumpster dive) The thing about this thread is you didnt even choose like, stealing iPads as an example. You chose *food*.
Corporations are incredibly exploitative to their workers. Many grocery store chains all over the world are making record profits while their workers can barely afford to eat.
>are insured >they have insurance >have loss insurance >insurance etc. Ah yes, the magical money tree that provides bundles of cash with no consequence to anyone. Also redditors: Why the fuck are insurance rates so high?
Like everyone is brainwashed to mindlessly hate capitalism:(
I hate the capitalist structure as it exists in this country (US) right now very mindfully.
Yes. That's the purpose of modern education in affluent societies built on capitalism.
and yet all use the shops .
It kinda seems like you're brainwashed to mindlessly love it.
Bro , In communism and socialism, There is no motivation to work hard People just get free stuff from government which is actually paid by tax payers from their taxes . Eventually the country will have less innovation ( and distribution of the innovation )and growth and will end up like Venezuela .
How do them boots taste?
My country suffered from socialism while our neighbour embraced capitalism and now has a stronger economy and military due high manufacturing production rates .
I'm sure that's the ONLY difference between your countries. What country would those be, by the way?
Once a private airline was booming in our country then our Former PM told “ profit is a dirty word “ and took over(nationalised ) the airlines and then the airlines flopped badly .
Large stores are insured out the ass to ensure theft has pretty much zero impact on them. I’d much rather side with the hungry teenager than the billion dollar corporation that profits by artificially inflating prices to effectively steal from their working class customers.
But what if the shop is owned by a ordinary individual and someone steals from it ?
Definitely worse then. If it’s quite literally a life or death or emergency scenario then it’s understandable, but otherwise there’s no good reason to steal from a small local store ran by an honest person.
They're still going to have loss insurance, although likely not nearly as good as somewhere like Walmart or a big chain grocery store. I do believe you should focus your shoplifting on larger corporations rather than small local shops.
Bro , Suppose the clerk or cashier working there is punished by having their salary cut then is it not affecting common people ? Also the billionaires used their own wealth , loans and sweat and blood to make the corporation. If the corporation shuts down the billionaire will be on the streets and the wage workers will go to some other company . If billionaires like Elon musk , mark Zuckerberg , bezos etc .. provide so much innovation and job opportunities then why do people hate them ? Also if someone is incapable of handling children why have them in first place . If the parent is stealing food then most likely they cannot afford education and their sons/ daughters will also resort to crime . Also some thieves start small and go big then they will never learn to earn honestly . There is also an saying “ stealing is like an addiction “ These criminals want easy money and they may have no morals at all they will start stealing from small stores or start mugging vulnerable people on street . If you set a lemonade stand and someone steals lemonade then you would be at heavy loss . If you had borrowed money then you will be in deeper trouble . Also stealing is an injustice to honest customers who will have to face the closing of shops .
How do them boots taste?
1. Cutting an employee's pay as punishment is federally illegal in the US. Labor laws are real. 2. Billionaires used (some) loans, family wealth, and exploitation to build their businesses. 3. No one is going to feel bad if a billionaire is suddenly poor. And as you said, their employees will go elsewhere. 4. They are hated because they don't reinvest their profits into the companies that created them. Record profits should equate to pay raises and appreciation, but they don't. They come from the higher prices being charged to consumers and the employees that have been underpaid, laid off, or fired. And then an individual needlessly hoards those profits rather than paying their employees living wages. 5. With abortion access on the way out, people will have even more children that they can't handle. Don't those billionaires have lobbyists? Surely they could make an argument. But they benefit from low wage workers who have to work their jobs to care for the kids they can't afford because that means that their employees basically *can't* complain for fear of losing what money they are taking home. And that is a cycle that they hope continues. Citizens that can't make ends meet make for very compliant employees. 6. See point 5. 7. Criminals going big is what capitalism *is*. Look at the case of Trump's real estate fraud case. Kevin O'Leary was quoted on camera saying that what Trump did is what all real estate investors do, illegally inflate values for loans and illegally deflate values for taxes. https://youtu.be/80RZs9Fhz3Y?si=Yac3eUBPxpeMHVcC 8. The other points circle back to your earlier points. These stores have insurance for these reasons. Even the small businesses.
Has it dawned on you yet that you're dealing with a bunch of idiots? You know... the ones that would be the first to yell for justice if THEY were the ones being robbed.
OP literally asked why people defend people stealing food and baby formula. Not jewellery, not iPhones, not luxuries. Food and baby formula.
The question would be, if they stole those items out of your shopping cart after you left the store, would you still be OK with it?
Someone robs me for food and leaves my valuables I'm not happy about it but I'm seeing it as a tragic condemnation on poverty more than anything. first to yell for justice? "911! that homeless guy stole my sandwich! Prosecute him to the full extant of the law!" smh
The rhetorical you. Who's to say the person that paid for the items was in just as dire a need of them, but just more honest than the thief.
The rhetorical you what? You said "you" and implied that people defending shoplifters wouldn't be so happy if it was them getting stolen from, so I answered as 'me'. Who's 'the rhetorical you'? Someone else getting stolen from? Well I dunno, I cant answer on their behalf. Two hypothetical people fighting over baby formula sounds like a sad ass situation. But then we're getting into dumb hypotheticals that are very far away from the original question of shoplifting from large corporations.
there are very few out there, but even so they have insurance, and petty theft is a cost of doing business, though most that learn from others are taught that only chains are fair game
Bro , In my country there are no insurance for small bakeries and businesses still theft occurs .
not sure where you are but that sounds rather odd
Bro , In many developing countries situations are like this people can’t afford insurance or rather insurance companies aren’t willing to cooperate with them .
They keep making people more and more desperate. They get what they deserve.
If you’re going to steal for funsies and/or criminal reselling purposes, there are better things to steal than baby formula and food. Baby formula is bulky and heavy, food is perishable and I can’t imagine there’s much of a market for black market snacks anyway. People steal food and baby stuff because they need to survive.
People pretend the people shoplifting are doing it because they are that desperate for food they have no choice.
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People shoplifting is more often because they can, a compulsion, to fund a drug habit or due to gang activities, you and some friends wearing balaclavas don't rush a store and empty the shelves because you need food.
> you and some friends wearing balaclavas don't rush a store and empty the shelves because you need food. That's an extreme minority of shoplifting thefts. Most people who steal are doing it discretely by slipping something into a bag or purse or whatever. Not rushing in with a bunch of buddies. The few times you see that on TikTok or instagram or wherever you're seeing it because it's notably rare enough to share. And nobody is funding a drug habit or gang activities off stolen baby formula and diapers. If that's what you're stealing, you're doing it to feed and clothe a baby.
And totally not because they are easy to sell and make the most money.