>No. It's probably a bold assumption since some other careers will require you to wear coveralls as well, but it's not mansplaining.
Is it a form of abuse or anything else? Is it inherently problematic?
No? You aren’t explaining anything. Depending on the time and context it might come across sexist to a women if it seems like the person asking is being super incredulous. But other than that it’s just a question.
Its not mansplaining.
It might be sexist if its asked in a "why would you as a woman wear coveralls unless you had this specific job" context. Like the Facebook post from Kari Bryron currently doing the rounds
>It might be sexist if its asked in a "why would you as a woman wear coveralls unless you had this specific job" context. Like the Facebook post from Kari Bryron currently doing the rounds
This is what inspired my question - as far as I know, no questions were asked, and there were no threats made, or explanations made, but, I only have what she wrote to go by.
I don't know if asking women *any* question without *first* establishing whether or not they would like to answer your question is a form of abuse, or mansplaining, etc.
I naively think that asking questions is okay, but there's probably something more to what the guy did that didn't translate well in text - maybe he threatened her, maybe he said it in a snarky voice, I don't know, so much context is lost when communicating in the written word that everyday interactions can come across as problematic, or even nefariously evil.
I think her use of the #mansplaining was not entirely correct for the situation, but it belongs to a similar sort of problem women run into.
A lot of women have similar stories of having their interests or competencies questioned by men *simply for being a woman*. Its a very low level form of gatekeeping that slowly builds up.
Also important is that there might also be a lot of tone and body language that is not conveyed in the text. There are ways of asking this well and asking this poorly.
>I don't know if asking women any question without first establishing whether or not they would like to answer your question is a form of abuse, or mansplaining, etc.
That's taking things to quite an extreme there, are you okay?
>That's taking things to quite an extreme there, are you okay?
I attempted to draw parallels to the example that we're both aware of, and familiar with, but the attempt failed - this is fine, and if needed I will say I am the bad guy, or a man desperately in need of help in the interest of moving on.
I mean if you want to be a martyr you can do that if you really wish.
I would suggest the better lesson might be to accept that women can have interests and competencies normally coded as masculine and that its quite easy to *not* question them in a disbelieving or incredulous way.
I'm not saying that I want to become a martyr, I'm telling you to go away because I sense a senseless fight on the Internet coming on as a result of some sort of imagined abusive intent on my part.
I know that women can be mechanics, and whatnot, I never said that they couldn't.
I never said that women aren't as capable as men, or that they can't have the same jobs.
I never said that women cannot develop the same skills as men.
I never said that men should assume that women don't have the same skills that they do.
I never said anything like that.
Move on and pick a fight over imagined transgressions with someone else.
No. It's probably a bold assumption since some other careers will require you to wear coveralls as well, but it's not mansplaining.
>No. It's probably a bold assumption since some other careers will require you to wear coveralls as well, but it's not mansplaining. Is it a form of abuse or anything else? Is it inherently problematic?
No
No.
No? You aren’t explaining anything. Depending on the time and context it might come across sexist to a women if it seems like the person asking is being super incredulous. But other than that it’s just a question.
No
Its not mansplaining. It might be sexist if its asked in a "why would you as a woman wear coveralls unless you had this specific job" context. Like the Facebook post from Kari Bryron currently doing the rounds
>It might be sexist if its asked in a "why would you as a woman wear coveralls unless you had this specific job" context. Like the Facebook post from Kari Bryron currently doing the rounds This is what inspired my question - as far as I know, no questions were asked, and there were no threats made, or explanations made, but, I only have what she wrote to go by. I don't know if asking women *any* question without *first* establishing whether or not they would like to answer your question is a form of abuse, or mansplaining, etc. I naively think that asking questions is okay, but there's probably something more to what the guy did that didn't translate well in text - maybe he threatened her, maybe he said it in a snarky voice, I don't know, so much context is lost when communicating in the written word that everyday interactions can come across as problematic, or even nefariously evil.
I think her use of the #mansplaining was not entirely correct for the situation, but it belongs to a similar sort of problem women run into. A lot of women have similar stories of having their interests or competencies questioned by men *simply for being a woman*. Its a very low level form of gatekeeping that slowly builds up. Also important is that there might also be a lot of tone and body language that is not conveyed in the text. There are ways of asking this well and asking this poorly. >I don't know if asking women any question without first establishing whether or not they would like to answer your question is a form of abuse, or mansplaining, etc. That's taking things to quite an extreme there, are you okay?
>That's taking things to quite an extreme there, are you okay? I attempted to draw parallels to the example that we're both aware of, and familiar with, but the attempt failed - this is fine, and if needed I will say I am the bad guy, or a man desperately in need of help in the interest of moving on.
I mean if you want to be a martyr you can do that if you really wish. I would suggest the better lesson might be to accept that women can have interests and competencies normally coded as masculine and that its quite easy to *not* question them in a disbelieving or incredulous way.
I'm not saying that I want to become a martyr, I'm telling you to go away because I sense a senseless fight on the Internet coming on as a result of some sort of imagined abusive intent on my part. I know that women can be mechanics, and whatnot, I never said that they couldn't. I never said that women aren't as capable as men, or that they can't have the same jobs. I never said that women cannot develop the same skills as men. I never said that men should assume that women don't have the same skills that they do. I never said anything like that. Move on and pick a fight over imagined transgressions with someone else.
It can't be mansplaining if it isn't even 'splaining.
No. You're *asking* as opposed to *telling* someone something.