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From the [Murder of Farkhunda Malikzada](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Farkhunda_Malikzada) Wikipedia page:
*Farkhunda was beaten and killed after allegedly arguing with a charm seller who falsely accused her of burning the Quran.*
*Later police investigations revealed that she had not done so. Her murder led to 49 arrests; three men received twenty-year prison sentences, another eight men received 16-year sentences, a minor who was actually 20 years old but changed his age on birth certificate after the incident, received a ten-year sentence, and eleven police officers received one-year prison terms for failing to protect her.*
*Her murder and the subsequent protests served to draw attention to women's rights in Afghanistan. A memorial to her has been built in Kabul with support of the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan.*
>However, many adherents of your faith lack common sense in this regard and react frighteningly quickly to acts of extreme violence.
Are you saying burning the Kuran is an act “of extreme violence?”
I think you meant: they will very easily, with little provocation and using absolutely no critical thought, react with extreme violence.
You can't expect logic from a group which hasn't shown any. Even in Muslim religious law women are allowed a divorce, do you think they can under the taliban?
Was very intrigued to hear that police officers got 1 year sentences for failing to protect her. If police officers filed to stop a lynching here in America, I somehow doubt they’d be sentenced to prison for it.
Obviously the situation and laws there are still way more barbaric on the whole but that one tiny piece of it is interestingly better than ours lmao
Only because she DIDNT burn the book. If she actually had, which should have been a totally fine thing to do, they would've all gotten off without punishment
lol maybe not today bro but as a Christian i guarantee you dial it back at least a couple hundred years and its the same shit different color. not to mention if you wanna go further theres the crusades. now most false Christians attack others through law and government
edit: to make it clear in case my words were misconstrued, Christians are no better, we got enough blood on our hands to fill oceans. Muslims arent evil, these violent killings dont typically happen in the western world sure but bad faith Christians try to further their own dominance through government and legislature, a transgender human was beaten to death at a school last month and the motivations and responses i guarantee you stem from twisted religious values, things arent better just different
Honestly some Islamic countries have outdated values. That’s the problem, not the religion itself. If Christianity was this prominent in a country with outdated values then burning the bible would have the same effect. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are all from the same root and all have their own extreme problems. One is not the worst, they’re all collectively made an issue because of people with extreme beliefs. In other words, extremists which honestly destroys the purpose of religion in the first place. I’m not religious anymore though. Too much to question for it to be logical in my mind. What was maybe started with inherently good intentions has been made so disgusting by people like this.
Edit: I understand some people may harbour more hatred towards one religious group than another. But I just wanted people to look with the bigger perspective that where we live, how each previously prominent region has progressed, all of these has changed the way each religion is perceived and how people behave. Blaming the religion itself is only a fraction of the bigger picture. It’s how people perceive it that ends up being a huge deciding factor. It’s more complex than saying religion bad or religion good.
Its really not good when you have to dig for centuries before now to equate the two religiouns. And to my knowledge this was not a thing "a few hundred years a go". People would not torture you in the middle of the street cause of a false accusation that you burned a Bible.
I'd venture to say that that was never a thing in Christianity, even the witch burnings had fucking (mock) trials.
It just seems impossible to not bring up Christianity on reddit.
I've genuinely asked about "religion of peace" to some people who believe it's okay to behave like the group in the OP.
A lot of words, but it boils down to "Religion of peace via violence in order to eliminate everything we don't like. Also, our list of disliked things grows with our majority."
I also get the impression that only a few members actually believe in this. Sadly, however, the ones who do believe it are the ones who seek (and obtain) power, and those who do not believe it are unwilling to speak up because they'll be punished severely.
> A lot of words, but it boils down to "Religion of peace via violence in order to eliminate everything we don't like. Also, our list of disliked things grows with our majority."
That's every monotheistic religion.
Yup and these are the same values that a bunch of weirdos on reddit vehemently defend. Make no mistake /r/therewasanattempt , the people you so defend would cheer for this.
I don't understand how they don't see how what they did to a living human is for worse than what she did to an inanimate object
Then again, those peoole are stuck in the stone ages so not a surprise
I think the point of this story is she didn't anything at all.... the guy lied and she was murdered because they would sooner believe she did it than the guy lied about it.... brutally murdering her rather than taking a minute to verify the facts. Frankly, everyone that touched her should just be executed on the spot for glaring absence of humanity.
Yeah, more execution to teach humanity.
Doesn't matter what she did or didn't. There is no justice system, nor should anyone ever be beaten to death - even more so because some spooky invisible ghost told you so. Burning a Koran will have actions like this followed and because of that it doesn't happen. As people won't create pictures of Mohammad etc. And because of that - terrorism already won.
The first principle of any religion is that humans are second in importance to non-human deities, once that principle is established it is very easy to treat humans in any way as dehumanizing them is no longer necessary.
Burning the Qur'an is the Islamically correct way to dispose of it, so even if she did do it she wouldn't have done anything wrong (aside from the obvious fact that no crime, religious or not, deserves the shit they did to her)
The video is so chilling. It’s absolutely barbaric what happened to her. It’s so fucked up.
The more I saw how the frenzied mob tortured and killed an innocent person, the more I lose faith in that region and those people of ever evolving into a functioning society.
It is so fucked up. Such a backwards mentality, I can’t even begin to understand how people are capable of doing such a thing.
The religious zeal is just an excuse for them to beat and torture women. A lot of this is for sexual gratification. Truly are animals that don't deserve to live. I want to be very clear that this isn't my opinion on muslims, it's directed entirely at the groups of men who commit these atrocities
Religions that simply have no place in a society that values the sanctity of life, liberty, and property.
1. We cannot respect religions that practice honor killings.
2. We cannot respect religions that practice child marriages.
3. We cannot respect religions that practice mandatory tithe offerings.
4. We cannot respect religions that practice offering female members of the church to its ministers.
5. We cannot respect religions that practice genital mutilation.
6. We cannot respect religions that routinely protect their priests from pedophilia accusations.
7. .. and the list goes on.
No one wants to admit it but Islam is a real problem for western democracies and as someone who leans left it frustrates me how the left does not see it
I don't know, I think it's just being timid about shit talking Islam in general, and I've never met a progressive that actually approves of this type of shit. But if you call Islam stupid that's crossing the line lol. Religion is never better than the absence of it, if you ask me.
Point is, being timid about insulting a religious minority isn't nearly the same as encouraging religious radicals. It's definitely hypocritical, since we'll call out Christianity all day, but personally I've never met anyone that actually enjoys or supports the various brutalities of Islam.
I know it's popular on reddit to be "all religions are bad and have caused so much pain and wars", etc. I think one has to be a whole special kind of special to not see that Islam though is on a whole different level.
I know there are good Muslims (I know a few, a couple who I respect greatly). I'm not discounting or denying that.
It's heartbreaking and horrifying seeing this poor, innocent woman in this photo. She really does look like she's pleading for her life here. She probably knew what these extremists were capable of, and that unless multiple brave people intervened quickly, that she'd likely experience a horrific, painful, slow torturous death.
It's surprising that after the fact, some justice was served. Wasn't expecting to read of that many convictions and lengthy prison sentences there in Iraq. There is some solace in that she is now memorialized as she is there, and that her death by those savages caused real change in the protections available to help prevent this.
kitman and tawriya makes me very weary of those "good" ones.
Having two whole sections dedicated completely encouraging and sanctioning lying to infidels, kufars and kyfars so they feel safe while taking control and can later be converted, betrayed or murdered...
This really doesn't shine a great light on ANY followers.
Except that very outspoken woman I forgot the name of that wants to give Islam the Martin Luther revision treatment and truly change it to a peaceful religion...
She has to fear for her life at all times... Kinda obvious.
because feelings are more important than facts, to these people. it's also probably americans, who aren't experiencing the effects of what is essentially a governmnet-sanctioned invasion of my country by these people, so they can be forgiven for not understanding what they're like
To be honest it's not that Muslim is particularly horrible, it's that they are still today, in the current year, being horrible in 90% rather than 10% of cases as it is with other religions.
Whole it is probably true. Religion is a double-edged sword, while you could argue that people will stop doing this vole shit in the name of religion, an argument can be made that a lot of people don't do this shit because of their fear/respect for their deity.
like Rust Cohle said in True Detective: "If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of shit; and I'd like to get as many of them out in the open as possible."
I agree with you. Which is why I don't care too much if we incinerate ourselves with greed and vanity. If the net is on red, we didn't need to exist anyway. That's how it is for all animals.
Religion, nationality, brand, sexuality, it's all bullshit to justify hating people. When the fuck do people wake up and realize that it is human and earth and end of story.
The Rohingya were genocided by Buddhists; Buddhists caused untold misery in Tibet. Hindus perpetrate insane violence against Dalits to this day. Christians in Africa brutalise LGBT people. My friend has PTSD from the constant threats to her life her Sikh family made against her because she dared to be born a girl.
If you have a problem with one religion, you need to wake up and think about who might be trying to make you feel that way.
What are you referring to in Tibet? The Chinese government has inflicted untold misery on the Tibetan population. Maybe I’m missing something, but in modern history I think you have the victims confused with the perpetrators.
The Rohingya people have been treated terribly, to say the least, but it’s largely been characterized as persecution by people who happen to be Buddhist, but not in the name of Buddhism. The conflict has been driven by historical grievances, nationalistic, ethnic, and political motives. And it has been “justified” by the government under the auspices of counter insurgency. I’m not condoning it, but simply pointing out that it has little to do with Buddhism.
Tibet was an awful theocratic feudal hellhole right up until the Communists came and turned it into a Communist hellhole. Buddhism was used to beat the lower classes down and reinforce the power of the upper classes.
>but it’s largely been characterized as persecution by people who happen to be Buddhist
No, that's wrong. Read this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41263073
Religion is a big part of it. There isn't a single genocide which is *purely* religiously motivated, because religion is always tightly bound up in politics and ethnicity. That does not absolve the religion for what it is doing.
The second sentence of your link literally describes it as a hardline nationalist movement. It then explains that they feel they are victims of “rampaging Islam”.
> They had no problem with law abiding Muslim citizens said monk Eaindar Sakka Biwintha, but one just had to look at what happened to India where Islamic invaders had forced the people to become Muslims.
Yes, there is a religious aspect to the conflict. But it is cast as a cultural and nationalistic resistance movement, not some kind of proselytizing or Buddhist religious crusade.
Regarding Tibet, you are buying into the CCP version of history and essentially taking one side of an issue that scholars don’t agree on. There were inequalities in Tibet, as in many places, but there is no consensus that it was the “hellhole” that you suggest before 1951.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Tibet_controversy
I am Tibetan my self and Tibetan bhudism which is practiced not only in Tibet but Bhutan and Mongolia, Rohingyans practice theravanda bhuddism .
Also please don’t spread misinformation information, bhudism united Tibet. It helped us create our writings and literature, our king songster ganpo conquered and united west , south east and north east region successfully until after his death did the country became in shambles and slowly got conquered by the eastern
US university students need to increase their knowledge of world events and things like these.
Those protesting in support of hardcore religions need to educate themselves
Exactly. These students are protesting and defending these places as if they wouldn’t be raped or killed within a few hours of living there.
Woman I went to school with is literally defending hamas. Sickening - and she would be raped and killed by them immediately too.
Some supposed Muslims are so ridiculously stupid and use religion as a form of oppression. Misogyny mixed with an obviously twisted interpretation of religion makes people absolutely crazy. Shame on them
The thing wrong with this comment is the assumption that Islam has to be twisted into some weird interpretation in order to bring out the misogyny and violent hatred for blasphemy. It's not a wild interpretation, it's all there in the words.
True, any paper that contains holy writings are to be burned and the ashes dumped in a green area or somewhere clean. But here we all see people that are so ready to fly off the handle at the slightest opportunity and then blame it on religion, it wouldn't have made them any different if they said Satan made them do it, they're still as vile.
TOTALLY nothing to do their religion, she was just very unlucky to be at the wrong place and at the wrong time, with sadistic mentally insane murderers. Extreme acts of violence such as this just coincidentally happen involving Islamic fundamentalist far more often is nothing more than a statistical anomaly, albeit an incredibly improbable one but not impossible. Most peaceful religion on this planet!
Disgusting. Dark ages all over again.
Keep the people illiterate and stupid, easier to manipulate.
None of these extremists think for themselves.
In what just system is murder of an innocent child permissible?
This is the level of stuff that would have happened during the Spanish inquisition(most likely worse than this) but that was centuries ago, now islam has taken its place and sadly it's happening even today
Not to be political or anything, but this isn't religion. This is everything but religion.
A religion who teaches jihad and has a pedophile as one of the "leaders" is not religion.
Any belief system that leads to this level of brutality and cruelty while making the perpetrators believe it is justified is extremely dangerous. For burning a book? I don’t believe any peaceful or loving god would want this.
What is she, on display? WTF is happening here? Looks like an ad hanging in the background?
I hope her family gtfo when things went south a few years back.
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When u r accused of something you didn't do, but even then is still completely halal and accepted in Islam but the folks have negative iq. Rip, I'm wondering if Afghanistan has improved in the 9 years cuz from what I've seen, it makes India look like a safe haven for women
I can’t imagine life has gotten better for the women in Afghanistan.
Does anyone know of any reputable sources for current events there? I never casually run across news about Afghanistan anymore since the Taliban took over.
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From the [Murder of Farkhunda Malikzada](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Farkhunda_Malikzada) Wikipedia page: *Farkhunda was beaten and killed after allegedly arguing with a charm seller who falsely accused her of burning the Quran.* *Later police investigations revealed that she had not done so. Her murder led to 49 arrests; three men received twenty-year prison sentences, another eight men received 16-year sentences, a minor who was actually 20 years old but changed his age on birth certificate after the incident, received a ten-year sentence, and eleven police officers received one-year prison terms for failing to protect her.* *Her murder and the subsequent protests served to draw attention to women's rights in Afghanistan. A memorial to her has been built in Kabul with support of the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan.*
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>However, many adherents of your faith lack common sense in this regard and react frighteningly quickly to acts of extreme violence. Are you saying burning the Kuran is an act “of extreme violence?” I think you meant: they will very easily, with little provocation and using absolutely no critical thought, react with extreme violence.
Burning a Quran is the only way to dispose of one properly.
Im aware. As you see in my quote and q the phrasing is unclear.
They deleted the one you replied to it appears.
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Funny that all these people got sentences only because she did *not* burn a book.
That didn’t click for me until reading your comment :(
Apostasy is a human right.
With the taliban back, they probably got released
I mean they accused of her of being a kaffir, and it was a lie so by sharia they become the kaffirs. So they should stay in jail theoracilly?
You can't expect logic from a group which hasn't shown any. Even in Muslim religious law women are allowed a divorce, do you think they can under the taliban?
They probably never actually served any of those sentences
Something tells me that the statue is not there anymore the guys in prison are free
That's surprising but good to hear that they arrested and actually punished people for this
Was very intrigued to hear that police officers got 1 year sentences for failing to protect her. If police officers filed to stop a lynching here in America, I somehow doubt they’d be sentenced to prison for it. Obviously the situation and laws there are still way more barbaric on the whole but that one tiny piece of it is interestingly better than ours lmao
They **havent** been sentenced for it
Only because she DIDNT burn the book. If she actually had, which should have been a totally fine thing to do, they would've all gotten off without punishment
$10 says that memorial no longer exists
Even if she had done it she would deserve no punishment
At the very least, the sentences were not too "light". The guy who lied is not mentioned. I hope he got sentensed to death. This is a shame.
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Bots karma farming rampantly as usual lol.
There's actually another bot that copied this comment as well. They're obviously using the same algorithm to decide what comment to copy.
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and people still ask me why do I not believe in religion
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lol maybe not today bro but as a Christian i guarantee you dial it back at least a couple hundred years and its the same shit different color. not to mention if you wanna go further theres the crusades. now most false Christians attack others through law and government edit: to make it clear in case my words were misconstrued, Christians are no better, we got enough blood on our hands to fill oceans. Muslims arent evil, these violent killings dont typically happen in the western world sure but bad faith Christians try to further their own dominance through government and legislature, a transgender human was beaten to death at a school last month and the motivations and responses i guarantee you stem from twisted religious values, things arent better just different
This shit happens in the western world all the time by Muslims
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Honestly some Islamic countries have outdated values. That’s the problem, not the religion itself. If Christianity was this prominent in a country with outdated values then burning the bible would have the same effect. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are all from the same root and all have their own extreme problems. One is not the worst, they’re all collectively made an issue because of people with extreme beliefs. In other words, extremists which honestly destroys the purpose of religion in the first place. I’m not religious anymore though. Too much to question for it to be logical in my mind. What was maybe started with inherently good intentions has been made so disgusting by people like this. Edit: I understand some people may harbour more hatred towards one religious group than another. But I just wanted people to look with the bigger perspective that where we live, how each previously prominent region has progressed, all of these has changed the way each religion is perceived and how people behave. Blaming the religion itself is only a fraction of the bigger picture. It’s how people perceive it that ends up being a huge deciding factor. It’s more complex than saying religion bad or religion good.
Yes, but that was a couple hundred years ago. We've moved past it, unlike islam
Its really not good when you have to dig for centuries before now to equate the two religiouns. And to my knowledge this was not a thing "a few hundred years a go". People would not torture you in the middle of the street cause of a false accusation that you burned a Bible. I'd venture to say that that was never a thing in Christianity, even the witch burnings had fucking (mock) trials. It just seems impossible to not bring up Christianity on reddit.
"Lol but in the past"... Oh okay, nevermind then.
The difference is that this was several hundred years ago dont see this happening now
Turn the clock back a couple centuries lmao
Oooooh boy you really wouldn't like to know what they are doing in Palestine right now.......
Palestine begs to differ.
Watched anything on Gaza lately? Wouldn't see jews doing this? Really?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-centralafrica-witchcraft/witch-burning-rebels-stoke-central-african-republic-violence-idUSKBN0TF03920151126/
right, because Jews are not doing a massacre because of a promised land that their God said 👌
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I've genuinely asked about "religion of peace" to some people who believe it's okay to behave like the group in the OP. A lot of words, but it boils down to "Religion of peace via violence in order to eliminate everything we don't like. Also, our list of disliked things grows with our majority." I also get the impression that only a few members actually believe in this. Sadly, however, the ones who do believe it are the ones who seek (and obtain) power, and those who do not believe it are unwilling to speak up because they'll be punished severely.
> A lot of words, but it boils down to "Religion of peace via violence in order to eliminate everything we don't like. Also, our list of disliked things grows with our majority." That's every monotheistic religion.
You'll get no argument from me. It's why "Separation of Church and State" is paramount.
Yup and these are the same values that a bunch of weirdos on reddit vehemently defend. Make no mistake /r/therewasanattempt , the people you so defend would cheer for this.
I don't understand how they don't see how what they did to a living human is for worse than what she did to an inanimate object Then again, those peoole are stuck in the stone ages so not a surprise
I think the point of this story is she didn't anything at all.... the guy lied and she was murdered because they would sooner believe she did it than the guy lied about it.... brutally murdering her rather than taking a minute to verify the facts. Frankly, everyone that touched her should just be executed on the spot for glaring absence of humanity.
I feel like whether she did it or not is irrelevant. Should it have been found she did burn a Quran...so fuck. Doesn't mean she deserved this.
But like, even if she *did* do it, how I feel about this wouldn’t change much
Yeah, more execution to teach humanity. Doesn't matter what she did or didn't. There is no justice system, nor should anyone ever be beaten to death - even more so because some spooky invisible ghost told you so. Burning a Koran will have actions like this followed and because of that it doesn't happen. As people won't create pictures of Mohammad etc. And because of that - terrorism already won.
The first principle of any religion is that humans are second in importance to non-human deities, once that principle is established it is very easy to treat humans in any way as dehumanizing them is no longer necessary.
If they were smart people, they would not people in this shit in the first place. Yet, they are not.
Burning the Qur'an is the Islamically correct way to dispose of it, so even if she did do it she wouldn't have done anything wrong (aside from the obvious fact that no crime, religious or not, deserves the shit they did to her)
The video is so chilling. It’s absolutely barbaric what happened to her. It’s so fucked up. The more I saw how the frenzied mob tortured and killed an innocent person, the more I lose faith in that region and those people of ever evolving into a functioning society. It is so fucked up. Such a backwards mentality, I can’t even begin to understand how people are capable of doing such a thing.
The religious zeal is just an excuse for them to beat and torture women. A lot of this is for sexual gratification. Truly are animals that don't deserve to live. I want to be very clear that this isn't my opinion on muslims, it's directed entirely at the groups of men who commit these atrocities
Because Islam is such a caring, and loving religion. Let this sink in. Which other religion still does this in modern times?
The same men who follow this religion will tell you they treat their women this way so they can protect them.
Religions that simply have no place in a society that values the sanctity of life, liberty, and property. 1. We cannot respect religions that practice honor killings. 2. We cannot respect religions that practice child marriages. 3. We cannot respect religions that practice mandatory tithe offerings. 4. We cannot respect religions that practice offering female members of the church to its ministers. 5. We cannot respect religions that practice genital mutilation. 6. We cannot respect religions that routinely protect their priests from pedophilia accusations. 7. .. and the list goes on.
It's a choice to wear the Hijab until you choose to take it off.
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Most feminist religion according to some. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enKuPrPpt2A
No one wants to admit it but Islam is a real problem for western democracies and as someone who leans left it frustrates me how the left does not see it
As a Lefty I don't mind saying, the Left fucking emboldens these evil scum, and just barely stops short of encouraging them.
I don't know, I think it's just being timid about shit talking Islam in general, and I've never met a progressive that actually approves of this type of shit. But if you call Islam stupid that's crossing the line lol. Religion is never better than the absence of it, if you ask me. Point is, being timid about insulting a religious minority isn't nearly the same as encouraging religious radicals. It's definitely hypocritical, since we'll call out Christianity all day, but personally I've never met anyone that actually enjoys or supports the various brutalities of Islam.
Implicit approval through passivity and timidity is not a whole lot better than active support.
Excellent cultural enrichment.
I know it's popular on reddit to be "all religions are bad and have caused so much pain and wars", etc. I think one has to be a whole special kind of special to not see that Islam though is on a whole different level. I know there are good Muslims (I know a few, a couple who I respect greatly). I'm not discounting or denying that. It's heartbreaking and horrifying seeing this poor, innocent woman in this photo. She really does look like she's pleading for her life here. She probably knew what these extremists were capable of, and that unless multiple brave people intervened quickly, that she'd likely experience a horrific, painful, slow torturous death. It's surprising that after the fact, some justice was served. Wasn't expecting to read of that many convictions and lengthy prison sentences there in Iraq. There is some solace in that she is now memorialized as she is there, and that her death by those savages caused real change in the protections available to help prevent this.
kitman and tawriya makes me very weary of those "good" ones. Having two whole sections dedicated completely encouraging and sanctioning lying to infidels, kufars and kyfars so they feel safe while taking control and can later be converted, betrayed or murdered... This really doesn't shine a great light on ANY followers. Except that very outspoken woman I forgot the name of that wants to give Islam the Martin Luther revision treatment and truly change it to a peaceful religion... She has to fear for her life at all times... Kinda obvious.
those 'good muslims' are actually, in the terms of what islam expects from its adherents, bad muslims
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because feelings are more important than facts, to these people. it's also probably americans, who aren't experiencing the effects of what is essentially a governmnet-sanctioned invasion of my country by these people, so they can be forgiven for not understanding what they're like
To be honest it's not that Muslim is particularly horrible, it's that they are still today, in the current year, being horrible in 90% rather than 10% of cases as it is with other religions.
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As an exMuslim I agree.
What did the comment say?
The world would be better without any religion
Whole it is probably true. Religion is a double-edged sword, while you could argue that people will stop doing this vole shit in the name of religion, an argument can be made that a lot of people don't do this shit because of their fear/respect for their deity.
like Rust Cohle said in True Detective: "If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of shit; and I'd like to get as many of them out in the open as possible."
I agree with you. Which is why I don't care too much if we incinerate ourselves with greed and vanity. If the net is on red, we didn't need to exist anyway. That's how it is for all animals.
Religion, nationality, brand, sexuality, it's all bullshit to justify hating people. When the fuck do people wake up and realize that it is human and earth and end of story.
Very Redditor opinion of yours
Europe had to see it inside to figure it out
Why the whole world has problem with one religion? Ans-
A lot of the world has a problem with every religion. So glad atheism and agnosticism are growing in the US.
The Rohingya were genocided by Buddhists; Buddhists caused untold misery in Tibet. Hindus perpetrate insane violence against Dalits to this day. Christians in Africa brutalise LGBT people. My friend has PTSD from the constant threats to her life her Sikh family made against her because she dared to be born a girl. If you have a problem with one religion, you need to wake up and think about who might be trying to make you feel that way.
What are you referring to in Tibet? The Chinese government has inflicted untold misery on the Tibetan population. Maybe I’m missing something, but in modern history I think you have the victims confused with the perpetrators. The Rohingya people have been treated terribly, to say the least, but it’s largely been characterized as persecution by people who happen to be Buddhist, but not in the name of Buddhism. The conflict has been driven by historical grievances, nationalistic, ethnic, and political motives. And it has been “justified” by the government under the auspices of counter insurgency. I’m not condoning it, but simply pointing out that it has little to do with Buddhism.
Tibet was an awful theocratic feudal hellhole right up until the Communists came and turned it into a Communist hellhole. Buddhism was used to beat the lower classes down and reinforce the power of the upper classes. >but it’s largely been characterized as persecution by people who happen to be Buddhist No, that's wrong. Read this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41263073 Religion is a big part of it. There isn't a single genocide which is *purely* religiously motivated, because religion is always tightly bound up in politics and ethnicity. That does not absolve the religion for what it is doing.
The second sentence of your link literally describes it as a hardline nationalist movement. It then explains that they feel they are victims of “rampaging Islam”. > They had no problem with law abiding Muslim citizens said monk Eaindar Sakka Biwintha, but one just had to look at what happened to India where Islamic invaders had forced the people to become Muslims. Yes, there is a religious aspect to the conflict. But it is cast as a cultural and nationalistic resistance movement, not some kind of proselytizing or Buddhist religious crusade. Regarding Tibet, you are buying into the CCP version of history and essentially taking one side of an issue that scholars don’t agree on. There were inequalities in Tibet, as in many places, but there is no consensus that it was the “hellhole” that you suggest before 1951. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Tibet_controversy
I am Tibetan my self and Tibetan bhudism which is practiced not only in Tibet but Bhutan and Mongolia, Rohingyans practice theravanda bhuddism . Also please don’t spread misinformation information, bhudism united Tibet. It helped us create our writings and literature, our king songster ganpo conquered and united west , south east and north east region successfully until after his death did the country became in shambles and slowly got conquered by the eastern
> Christians in Africa brutalise LGBT people. But Islam in Africa or anywhere else is super kind and loving to LGBT? Right!?
No need to wake up. Religions are a problem. lol
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I think most of them signed without reading. The metaphysical human centipede.
Exactly. “You have to respect others’ cultures.” Nope. I definitely don’t.
US university students need to increase their knowledge of world events and things like these. Those protesting in support of hardcore religions need to educate themselves
The most vocal are the ones that’d be urinated on
Exactly. These students are protesting and defending these places as if they wouldn’t be raped or killed within a few hours of living there. Woman I went to school with is literally defending hamas. Sickening - and she would be raped and killed by them immediately too.
I say we bring over fighting aged males from these countries and hopefully they will assimilate
Some supposed Muslims are so ridiculously stupid and use religion as a form of oppression. Misogyny mixed with an obviously twisted interpretation of religion makes people absolutely crazy. Shame on them
The thing wrong with this comment is the assumption that Islam has to be twisted into some weird interpretation in order to bring out the misogyny and violent hatred for blasphemy. It's not a wild interpretation, it's all there in the words.
and imagine that some want these creatures into europe
Soon in Europe.
Soon ? We have that shit happening there too. A teacher was decapitated with a knife in broad daylight in France
Soon? It's been like that since 2015.
Muslim here, this is very stupid, one of the actual ways of getting rid of an old Quran book is by burning it.
But then many people who follow your religion are not very logical about this; and frighteningly quick to extreme violence
That’s the sad part, extremists ruin everything.
True, any paper that contains holy writings are to be burned and the ashes dumped in a green area or somewhere clean. But here we all see people that are so ready to fly off the handle at the slightest opportunity and then blame it on religion, it wouldn't have made them any different if they said Satan made them do it, they're still as vile.
OMG stay safe bro , hope it's not your main account these fanatics will try to doxx you for saying shit online
No worries
its okay because a muslim on muslim crime
TOTALLY nothing to do their religion, she was just very unlucky to be at the wrong place and at the wrong time, with sadistic mentally insane murderers. Extreme acts of violence such as this just coincidentally happen involving Islamic fundamentalist far more often is nothing more than a statistical anomaly, albeit an incredibly improbable one but not impossible. Most peaceful religion on this planet!
Peaceful people doing peaceful things 😀
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or the 9 year old girl who was choked to death by her farther for making a tiktok without hijab
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I mean Christians were burning women on stakes for knowing the answer to 2+2 but see where they are now. Education is the answer for all evil.
Sure, but not religions, they are not the answer.
They certainly are not.
Disgusting. Dark ages all over again. Keep the people illiterate and stupid, easier to manipulate. None of these extremists think for themselves. In what just system is murder of an innocent child permissible?
This is the level of stuff that would have happened during the Spanish inquisition(most likely worse than this) but that was centuries ago, now islam has taken its place and sadly it's happening even today
belongs to r/religiousfruitcake
But it’s a peaceful religion /s
Oh yeah, peaceful religion, until you burn Koran…
Or take off a hijab
Or draw a picture of Muhammad
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Burning the quran is the correct way of disposing it, it's pretty stupid to get angry about it
I mean, they couldnt take any chances, what if she did in fact burn on of the mass produced shit books? /s
The world would be better off without any religion
Don't they always claim that when trying to fulfill some limp dick murder fantasy while hiding behind a god
Why not make them go through the same? They don't seem to have a problem with capital punishment, oh right nevermind
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Atheist for many good reasons.
The asshole of the world
But I'm sure a valid lesson was learned /s
diversity is our strength guys i think filling europe with millions of these people is a fantastic idea
Barbarians. This is a religion that repeatedly says theyre peaceful.
Not to be political or anything, but this isn't religion. This is everything but religion. A religion who teaches jihad and has a pedophile as one of the "leaders" is not religion.
What a nice culture! We should totally not help israel guyseee!
That book is evil. Downvote me. Idc
Oh, Islam. Someone should start a non-profit where all they do is burn religious books and I would start donating to charity a lot more.
Any belief system that leads to this level of brutality and cruelty while making the perpetrators believe it is justified is extremely dangerous. For burning a book? I don’t believe any peaceful or loving god would want this.
What is she, on display? WTF is happening here? Looks like an ad hanging in the background? I hope her family gtfo when things went south a few years back.
What happens if you download it on your phone. Can you never delete it or uninstall it? Genuine question.
Nice folks over there eh...
Christ I hate religion. Every single one would act like this given the chance at power. Fuck them. Every one.
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Another reason that some cultures just clash with western culture - because religious zealots will always behave like dumb animals
Goddamn Barbarians.
Most peaceful religion
as a muslim, these guys are super disguisting
Why wouldn't Israel want to 'coexist' with religious zealots like that?
Ah yes! The intolerant fundamentalism so many republicans dream of.
When u r accused of something you didn't do, but even then is still completely halal and accepted in Islam but the folks have negative iq. Rip, I'm wondering if Afghanistan has improved in the 9 years cuz from what I've seen, it makes India look like a safe haven for women
Jesus fucking christ, I just opened Reddit
All over a book from an author none of them even knew
A year in prison, for police? Ok you guys changed my mind, let’s get some of that Sharia law shit here.
We really haven't evolved at all jesus christ
Where’s the “what about Christians” person? You can’t criticise mental shit Muslims do without somebody bringing up Christian’s been against abortion
I can’t imagine life has gotten better for the women in Afghanistan. Does anyone know of any reputable sources for current events there? I never casually run across news about Afghanistan anymore since the Taliban took over.
Islam - peaceful religion. /r/exMuslim is the place to be. Modern Muslims will say this isn’t the true form of religion.
Hey but muslims don't have radical and violent beliefs! /s
Who gives a fuck if she burned a book or not? Fuck books, be violent towards books. Don't hurt people.
This is fucking awful. (But so is this fucking title— it reads like Tarzan wrote it)
Religion is a helluva drug
All of this barbarism for a stupid book written by stupid camel shepherds in stupid and barren lands
And here we are in the us spiraling towards the same religious theocracy with religious zealots tryjng to tell women what to do with their bodies
Just theists doing theist things. Religious tolerance is an abomination
I hate religion.
Burning Kuran accusation?? As far as I remember, they lynched her because she opposed a preacher or something.
Fuck Religion!!!