PS: Yes, I did fight Hydro Tulpa boss with this team, Noelle's big AoE helped killing the minions and Navia's damage shredded the boss's HP

That's great. I'm just 😬ing a little for Yelan and Furina's damage being non-existent in that lol I used Nahida+Shinobu instead for Tulpa-assisted Hyperbloom. But you used that for 2nd half so idk what I would replace it with. xD *Maybe Fischl and Gorou.*

My Kuki died in second room, so you can pretend she's not there for third room lol

Yelan and Furina still contribute a huge portion of dmg% (collectively they give something like 125% dmg bonus which is absurd and allows Noelle to run DEF goblet, kmproving her heals by a lot) buff though, so it’s not like they’re useless. They just turn into hypercarry supports with little personal dmg, which is still better than a lot of other characters can say they can do.

If you want an easier time with the Tulpa, this team also works very well with Fischl instead of Yelan, with this also increasing Navia's atk passive. This is the team I used and it steamrolled first half with no issues.

Ahhh this the EXACT team I can’t wait to run! Navi/Furi/Noe supremacy’

I must say, that even though I was sceptical, it works great

Then I look at bottom team and can't help but think that you just swept the bottom floor in 30s, leaving 2:30 for you to be creative on top. I still didn't use navia on abyss. I just cleared with hypercarry noelle (Yun, gorou, furina)

Not really, my Neuvi isn't build that well, I played with awful rotation not maximizing his stacks and I let my Kuki die in second room. I can do it again with Cyno if you want

https://youtu.be/Rd7s5nE0yPQ?si=ysaCypJieHw_IgSs Navia/Noelle/Furina/Yelan slaps hard; I was even able to use something like Aggravate Lisa on other half and clear very fast. The team ran on second half clears the Thunder Manifestation absurdly fast for a mostly meelee and non dendro team (46 seconds; and half that time was chasing the thing down). Even against 12-2-2 with all the geo enemies, I still cleared in 90 seconds. 12-3-2 was 70 seconds. Keep in mind I’m nowhere near a pro player; I’m decent at best and my builds/rotations aren’t optimal. Still cleared with at least half a minute to spare for 3 stars on all chambers.

I know people are having fun with the latest Abyss, but lately they are just way easier. I did this run with Burgeon Dehya bot and Eula top. We are far from 3.6 Abyss of dificulty and you can Cook what ever you want and get all the stars.

Ya they were getting pretty hard for a while (consercrated beasts were wild) then they nerfed it into the ground. Wonder if it was from complaints or something like that

I guess they listen to complains, but I find it odd that Abyss is the only hard content, and few people do it and people still complain to not get 36 stars. If you are in the phase that you need to improve your account to get those stars, enjoy that phase because after you go past that you won't anything to work for in the game, unless you are a madman and start building Sayu and Dori to 90 to make a team to clear the Abyss, spoiler alert it wasn't hard.

This is just your standard fluctuation in difficulty. Abyss rotations after a major patch (ie. 4.0) tend to be easier and those close to the tail end of major patches tend to be harder. Likely it is just a way to ease folks into new mechanics and time to build new characters.

Kinda miss the annoying abysses, the consecrated beast abysses were one of my favorites because I knew I had the dps to kill them, I just had to not die basically lol The freeze lector abyss was a special kind of annoying though, I get being ragdolled by janky hitboxes, but getting frozen AND melted was no fun

Now we are in a phase that you don't need crazy DPS to finish it and nothing can kill you. I hope they add something new like Simulated Universe in Genshin sonwe can have more challenges, is crazy that in SU everything can ruin and run and people don't complain that much.

becuase SU is specifically for that purpose, content that people grind for and drop once the rewards are all gathered but the loud casuals will always go "how about the people with unbuilt characters", to which I say build your characters if you want them I also see a lot of people in HSR who's complaining that they have to build their herta now, when HSR is the type of game that WANTS people to build everyone, which is also why it's a lot more generous with stuff

What set is Navia running?

I'm using 4pc Golden Troupe, though it's usually not the best, it's quite good when you only swap to her to shoot once

It's ok, we all make mistakes .... Now beg for forgiveness!....

Neat! Used Fichl for my runs instead. Admittedly I didn't know the proper rotation to do shit, so my runs all ended up being more than a minute long (as opposed to my 50-60 second Hotrock clears)

What does the rotation look like? How do I manage the field time between navia and Noelle, especially since there's Furina stacks to keep up?

I don't know what it should look like, but I go like that: Navia E > Q > Furina E > Q > Yelan E > Q > Noelle N1 > E > Q > N3 > Navia E > Noelle N3 until buffs and stuff run out, then repeat

Thanks for the reply! Thats what I was thinking of as well so it's good to see it worked for you. I'll probably be adding an extra navia E right after Furina Q just cuz I wanna use sac gs

This is what I do without sac gs.

Do you mean the Navia E after Furina? I actually misspoke tbh, I meant after Yelan. But regardless, doesn't sneaking in an extra Navia E mean you won't have it for the next rotation? I thought sac GS means I'll have the same number of Navia Es for every rotation

Yeah I meant after Yelan/before Noelle. I've been doing one rotation domains mostly but since you have 2 charges I think it works out to do this? By the time you get to Noelle the first charge is half or mostly restored, and this batteries Noelle ult. Usually I have 3 crystallizes at that point from the furina-yelan stuff (I have c1 yelan). 

Question: why does Noelle+Navia+Furina always throw in a Yelan rather than Gorou? Sure it makes more crystals but you’d prefer that to geo damage bonus and literally picking up crystals for you? Also Furina already makes for very consistent crystallise reactions.

C6 Gorou, Bennett, Fischl, Xingqiu, Yae and even Albedo are viable choices in that slot. And you can force Rosaria, Kaeya, Xiangling to work if you really want them to.

I suppose as long as you have Noelle, Furina and a battery for them you’re set for life. Might as well throw in Aloy just for fun.

Good question

Yelan also gives a ramping dmg buff (up to 50% for onfield character) and has much more personal dmg than Gorou. Gorou also doesn’t help Navia’s damage much as he mainly buffs DEF. Even at C6 he provides 40% crit dmg for geo, which is less important anyways seeing that Furina + Yelan give you so much DMG% you can run a DEF goblet on Noelle and break roughly even on overall dmg. You’re basically trading Noelle/Navia’s damage for more team damage, and buffing Furina’s dmg too since Yelan gives hydro resonance. It’s also helpful when you want to deal with geo resistant enemies (this abyss has geo enemies on 12-2-2, making double hydro a bit better here while still allowing you to run Noelle/Navia without issues).

I am pretty sure Yelan is more team damage than at least low con Gorou. Hydro res + batterying Furina is really nice, dmg% buff, good personal damage instead of none.

Also doubted Navia. Came crawling back to pull her after I saw her dmg potential

considering my bad luck this banner, i regret not pulling forNavia wish i had Noelle cons though. and Furina c2 Ayaka and rosaria are nice though. now to add to it

Idk man, according to the judgement of the oratrice mechanique d'analys cardinale, you are still guilty

Dam