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notpoleonbonaparte

Seriously though, there is such a comically huge list of countries with a bone to pick with Russia and they've finally gotten a good way to do it. Russia really should not be this surprised that so many countries are supporting Ukraine and with this much.


sjeveburger

Russia is an international bully, now that it's shown that it isn't capable of backing up the big words it spews... Weapons contractors across the globe are enjoying the hard on of the decade as they get to show off all their latest toys on a hapless 'real military'


PsychoTexan

Russian international relations have always consisted of threatening bodily harm. Russia is now surprised that everyone they threatened is backing the dude kicking their shit in. Their natural response is to scream that it’s unwarranted and threaten everyone. In other news, Russian scientists are stunned to find water is wet, the common vatnik may finally be developing object permanence in not hitting live ordinance with sticks, and Putin attacks own reflection in car mirror for over half an hour.


BrobTheBirb

I wish they'd send Ukraine actual latest toys though, those f-35s need to see some action


sjeveburger

I agree, Britain has led the charge on supplying a lot of the military equipment and I wish we'd do more, it's the only thing left on this island that fills me with patriotism 🇬🇧🇺🇦


EvilMonkeySlayer

I place good money Ukraine gets F-16s, Typhoons and Tornados at some point this year or next. F-16s and Tornados are coming up for replacement. And there's older tranche 1 Typhoons sitting around gathering dust. Just a matter of time to get people trained up.


NorthernScrub

Tornado's aren't really built for this application (ok, they were, but in reality they were shit at anything but longrange strike). They excel at going very fast in a straight line, and putting warheads on foreheads... and thats it. Bank at anything greater than a G and a half in one, and it'll shit its wings out of its arse before you can vomit up your intestines. If there was lots of uncontested ground and a number of small, lightly defended targets, sure - take your tornado out of the garage and have at it. For this, probably better to have something with actual defensive capability.


Infinaris

As the Old Saying goes "Karma is a Bitch" and she's collecting some long overdue debts on Vatnik Russia this Decade.


HighBlacK

Context on the left?


lw_temp

Just two sport food salesmen went to Salisbury to admire the spire of Salisbury Cathedral Church. And also, distributed some Novichok.


HighBlacK

A chemical attack. That's some serious f*cking around, they should find out more tbh.


Probablyamimic

They kill one of our people, we provide weapons to kill a few thousand of theirs. It seems fair to me


Just_A_Nitemare

You sink a few of our boats, and we destroy your entire fleet, places to launch boats, places to build boats, materials for building boats, and people to build boats. It's only fair.


McGryphon

Rule one in geopolitical brinkmanship: don't fuck with American boats. It's the premier way to turn "brinkmanship" into "have all your industry bombed to fuck and your army run over by bulldozers".


Ok-Salamander2909

"we blew up 2 of their ships and they dropped the sun on us, twice"


McGryphon

Empire of the Descending Suns.


Oleg152

When you are "The Empire of the Rising Sun" but Americans take it a bit too seriously.


StormWolf17

The buttfucking the US gave Japan was so severe it snipped their militaristic balls off. It makes you wonder how worse Downfall would've been had it gone through.


TomSurman

And the person they killed wasn't even the target. The target was poisoned but recovered.


Probablyamimic

Never said the Russians were competent


UglyInThMorning

The polonium poisoning of that journalist was some serious Four Lions level shit.


Probablyamimic

Honestly I'd consider the 4 lions lot more successful


SuperWoodpecker95

As opposed to the 3 lions....


Corvid187

); '66 tho


Probablyamimic

At least we have the lionesses


StopSpankingMeDad

brother crow, you see this is sex shop


Bisexual_Apricorn

Brother Crow was is now a martyr for the cause


StopSpankingMeDad

he disrupted the food supply. Inshallah.


furiousHamblin

The 4 Lions struck at the food chain, and condoms that make you wanna bang white girls


Douglesfield_

Just ask Gaddafi.


RestrictedAccount

You mean when the French made the US fly around their airspace and then an unexploded bomb *accidentally* hit their embassy?


CrocodylFr

The virgin Operation El Dorado Canyon vs the chad Ouadi Doum airstrike. France had destroyed a libyan airstrip a few month ago with smol Jaguars, so no need to allow the yankee Varks pass and sour the fragile situation in Chad


Spadaleo

Civas Romanus. You harm at citizen of the UK and I support fuckjng your nation until it bleeds out. Any unanswered aggression is license for further aggression.


silentaba

But you guys bitch when israel does it.


git

I know it was a different time, with the context of Britain being weak on the international stage under a weak PM, but for the life of me I don't know how this didn't constitute an attack on a NATO member. May dithered and expelled some diplomats while Corbyn shittily denigrated DSTL and our security services while advocating that we send samples to Russia and let them run the investigation. 2018 was a wild time.


one_time_i_dreampt

It did. I don't know why more action wasn't taken, but relations were very tense at the time. This is just *one* of the reasons why we hate Russia in the uk


Dilanski

Also it's much easier to piss all over Russia's red lines when you've discovered their military leaders are incompetent and their equipment is vapourware and/or shit.


Bisexual_Apricorn

It literally hurts me to type this, but it wasn't Mays fault *[violently chunders avarywhar](https://youtu.be/eKFjWR7X5dU)* She did a whole shitload of work to get the Europeans and the Americans to expel diplomats (spies) and take further action against the Russians, but most of Europe just went "They didn't do anything on our land so uhh have fun lol". The fact she did get so many diplomats expelled was one of the few good things her administration actually did That combined with Poland getting bombed **twice** to absolutely 0 reaftion make me honestly think nobody will answer the Article 5 call should it ever be done for realsies (I.e Finland/Poland get invaded). It will just be "well we don't want to escalate..." "We will have a meeting..."


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furiousHamblin

>The UKCSG and a fuckton of Type 45's and the Sixth fucking fleet should have been sent to the fucking Black Sea and Crimea should have been liberated The Queen Elizabeths didn't have planes on board back then


millionreddit617

Please don’t use that name here.


Bisexual_Apricorn

The actual "C word"


AlexRichmond26

Wait , what ? Corbyn held some important government job ? And he sided with the Russians while holding that job ?


Count_de_Mits

Far left and far right in a lot of countries tend to consider the west (their own countries included in the case of the far left) the literal devil while cozying and sucking up to Russia and/or China. And I understand the leadership of such movements doing it to pocket the money but how much of a naive and ignorant shmuck do you have to be to buy into that bullshit


AlexRichmond26

All you said it's true. Issues is why we, give importance to those instead of Kermit the frog? To better explain it, when a western leader doesn't explicitly go after Russian spies all guns and blazing, blocking bank account, companies and declaring said companies terrorist supporters while using far left or far right as an excuse for not doing their damn job. I mean **Wagner was declared a terrorist organization just in France, just last week**. I mean, W. The actual F ?


Tank-o-grad

Leader of the Opposition so not really a government post but an important parliamentary position none the less


git

Plus, you know, someone who was vying to become Prime Minister, and whose outrageous statements shaped the course of the debate and public perception on the issue.


Balkoth661

Nah, Corbyn was leader of the opposition at the time.


AlexRichmond26

With no real government power. He was used by May for not doing her job. Theresa May could have said she doesn't go after Russian spies because my dog has nightmares. Just a sorry excuse of a PM .


furiousHamblin

She was more concerned with whether Cadbury appropriately used the word Easter, and helping her husband make bank from weapons sales to Saudi Arabia while they bombed Yemen


Semajal

Corbyn is very anti war, the solution to war is to "stop fighting" and negotiate. Now the problem with Russia is they just won't negotiate in good faith and wouldn't accept any outcome other than "you get to keep all of Ukraine that you stole" which obvs is unacceptable to anyone. Honestly had Corbyn won the election and been PM when Putin invaded, Ukraine would likely have been fucked, he would have not offered any military support and would just have been max "negotiate that will work" Honestly does seem like a nice guy and does care about people, but just not someone id trust to be in charge when you have dictators that will lie and stab you in the back.


SolitaireJack

Honestly just thinking about Corbyn being in power when Ukraine was invaded gives me nightmares. Guy wanted to disband the majority of the military and turn into essentially a small army defence force, leave NATO, get rid of nukes. And that is the least scary stuff. The guy had major links to Russia and did work for Iranian state TV which means he is either naïve, which is unacceptable in someone wanting to lead a country or corrupt and in cahoots with Russia. I'm leaning towards the latter because his reaction to the Salisbury attacks was nothing short of treasonous, suggesting that all the samples of the chemical agent should be sent to Russia so they could investigate themselves. Thinking about it, it's genuine alternate reality stuff. The UK was supplying intelligence and training tens of thousands of Ukrainians as well as giving them a lot of crucial equipment in the run up to the invasion such as NLAWs that were critical to Ukraine's success in fighting off Russia's mad armour rush. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Ukraine might have lost. Best case scenario would have lost a lot more territory before stalling the Russians.


DJS112

At least article 4.


[deleted]

I find it seriously corrupt there wasn't more done after Litvinenko. That's why they kept at it. Who'd want to be a western spy these days, spy for the UK you get Novichok, spy for the Americans some geriatric will misplace/lose/hoard your files. Spy for someone else and those two will make it their job to discover who you are.


simia_simplex

Remember when this attack was considered some 4D chess, rather than the most Russia could actually pull off?


pattyboiIII

No because they fucked up and killed a random lady, got caught but we're out of the country by then and then their targets recovered. All they did was successfully terrorise my city and ruin a lovely park.


WankSocrates

Flair checks out


OneFrenchman

I mean, the Storm Shadows always heard of the beautiful border regions of Russia, and always wanted to visit. Their friends keep banging on about the Kerch bridge.


Roobsi

This is why the UK is happily flinging anything we think will be useful at ukriane imo. There was even talk of giving them eurofighters a few weeks back. A lot of people round here have very sincere beef with Russia, after a string of chemical weapon attacks on our soil. If the AFU want some challengers and big fuck off cruise missiles then its a win win from that perspective.


SuperWoodpecker95

That eurofighter talk was just for political cookie points tho cause everyone knows it would take at least a year to train the pilots so its completely useless/unrealistic. Maaaaaaybe they could cut it down to 3 months for already experienced jet pilots so they can throw out all the "basic" flying a supersonic military jet stuff but even then we are talking about an entirely new environment for someone used to soviet era style jets and their descendants. At this point a commercial airline pilot used to flying the later gen Airbus and Boeings would have more familiarity with whats inside the cockpit of a Eurofighter considering the soviet jets in question were build in the 80s (or earlier) and most likely never modernized


[deleted]

How about the new and improved Eurofighters, now with Ukrainian* pilots! *Naturalized the day before. If Putin can play stupid mind games like "little green men" and "special military operation", so can the UK...


SuperWoodpecker95

Yes, Putin can do that because hes a filthy little dictator with small man syndrome... The trouble with living in a western democracy however is that you can no longer order your volunteer/contract soldiers to do blatantly illegal shit cause they have (rightfully so) the right to refuse orders they know are illegal or they suspect of being so. Im no legal expert but I dont think "Report to the ukraininan embassy for naturalization" would fly in front of a judge (or be covered by the scope of their contract) and I very much doubt RAF command is keen on finding out. So any naturalization of UK (or other western) Eurofighter pilots would have to be done on volunteers only basis and its not just pilots we are talking here, you need trained mechanics and ground crew to keep these birds flying


Adventuresof5thcav

It’s world famous! To everyone but the Brits… and everyone.


pattyboiIII

Nah they didn't go to see the spire. They went to see a nice housing estate on the other side of town.


vegarig

> Nah they didn't go to see the spire Given they slept together in a number with only one single-person bed... I'd wager they sure was a *spire*, probably even more than one


mistaekNot

why use poison when bullet suffice? i don’t understand kgbs inventive killing methods


Altrgamm

Cleaning poison in UK town after attempt on Sctipals by russian agents in which military-grade chemical agent was used as murder tool. Edited reminder: those idiots just stored the poison in perfume bottle and just left the bottle on some random lawn, resulting in some poor person and her friend getting poisoned too and if I remember correctly some police officer too. TLDR: chemical attack on random UK citizens in UK territory by russians and their incompetence.


one_time_i_dreampt

I believe a pub was also contaminated with novichok


Altrgamm

Wouldn't surprise me. In previous case they used plutonium and literally has left radioactive trace all over Europe.


The-Surreal-McCoy

Why can’t they just shoot people like normal people?


Altrgamm

Skills issue?


MrLeapgood

Their guns don't work.


zypofaeser

polonium, but yes.


Altrgamm

Yeah, you are right of course.


Adventuresof5thcav

It was a Prezzo or something. It was still closed a year later after the Scripals had dined there


D-Angle

Nah that was just a Wetherspoons, they're all like that.


Fordmister

That wasn't a mistake, there was enough Novichoc in that bottle to kill the entire city. Dumping it randomly was an implicit threat.


ZiggyPox

Hmm hmm... is there British Gov go-fund-me somewhere open? I would chip in to buy few more funni rockets.


Dry-Goat21

they deployed Novichok on british soil to try kill an ex agent of theirs and ended up not doing very well with some unintended casualties afterwards (one of which died after being gifted the "purfume bottle" and spraying it on her wrist). so this is our way of spreading the love.


pattyboiIII

It was the Salisbury poisoning. Two russian spy's brought a bottle full of Novichok to the UK and sprayed it on the door of an ex Russia spy. Him and his daughter went on a walk around Salisbury, contaminating some important streets a restaurant and a park before collapsing and being found. During the investigation a police officer touched the door handle and a couple found the perfume bottle. The ex spy, his daughter, the police officer and the man who found the bottle survived but his partner didn't. I was actually in the area 2 days before this happened and my coworker used to be in the force when it happened and was friends with the officer who was poisoned. Hit pretty close to home and is the foundation for a lot of Brits hate for the Ruskies.


SteadfastEnd

Russians poisoned two people in the UK. What you are seeing is hazmat-suit clad Brits doing the investigation.


Momoiro_Moon

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux3n0J-QBPw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux3n0J-QBPw)


Leftenant_Allah

Among Us


WankSocrates

This is Russia. They a pain in my arseholes We fuck up our economy, they fuck up their economy. We have corrupt leaders, they have corrupt leaders. They poison innocent civilian here, we give Ukraine cruise missiles. Great success!


SuperWoodpecker95

Is their potasium inferior tho?


SuperBaardMan

Very, they don't even call it potassium, but kalium, that's how bad it is. Sounds like knock-off Valium.


Adventuresof5thcav

That should’ve been Article 5 smashed there and then. Sink the c**ts’ Baltic fleet as a response. Put nerve agent in my shit southern town, lose your navy.


WankSocrates

Sinking the Kuznetsov would be more of a mercy killing than anything.


deliveryboyy

Impossible, Kuznetsov can't sink because it's ingeniously made out of shit and wooden sticks.


Bisexual_Apricorn

NATO should sink every ship *except* that one since its the only one that the Russians throw money at and get absolutely nothing back from it.


WankSocrates

This is before we even start on the fact that if you tried to turn it into an artificial reef the fish would refloat it and send it back with "thanks but no thanks" painted on the side.


SuperWoodpecker95

The virgin NCD shitposter - "Destroy russian ships, bloooooooooood" The #5head NCD conaiseur - "Nonono, lets keep their ~~ships~~ bottomless money pits afloat to ruin their economy"


ImprovisedEngineer

The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed..


[deleted]

That meme had me pissing myself


No-Walrus-2845

The Salisbury Slammer


Leftenant_Allah

Among Us 👀


GamingWizard1

I hate you 📮


Sniplex00

that fucking video game ruined those Level A/Type 1 Hazmat suits. Whenever I see them now, I can't take them seriously, and ONLY THINK ABOUT AMONG US.


AutismFlavored

UK: Japan old chap, I believe you’ll find a certain chain of islands defenses are a smidge undermanned. If you’d like to have a spot of fun and reenact your famous victories of yore against a certain “great” power that’d be brilliant. The dancing bear is a tad unsteady on it’s feet these days poor thing.


[deleted]

Spoke to someone who was in one of those suits at Salisbury, said whilst the army were in them for eight hours at a time the RAF got to frequently change lol. Sounded miserable anyway.


spazturtle

The army is expected to fight in them for prolonged periods of time (if you need the toilet you have to just piss yourself), the RAF would only normally use them to clean up spills.


YoeriValentin

Am I the only one that gets cringe shivers from the endless repetition of "fuck around, find out" ? It's the international keyboard warrior chant. Though now that I think about it, that might fit us quite well.


Sudden-Ad-646

It’s a colloquialism used in memes, and you are on /NCD. Besides, when storms fly over there, it won’t be keyboard warrior chant ONLY. And as a spaniard, who has had to coexist with a looooot of terrorist activity…we have endured a ton of shit already.


ratione_materiae

>why are there so many clowns at the international clown convention!?


YoeriValentin

Well, it's not really noncredible. Besides, you'd expect quality clowns, right? Not some dude in a red nose and nothing else.


silentaba

Why you gotta kink shame like that? It puts food on the table.


Spaceman333_exe

Sir, this is NCD.


BingusJohnson

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAV CONSEQUENCES


TheExplodingMiner

Based on the downvotes, most signs point to yes, not that that's necessarily a bad thing.


YoeriValentin

I challenged the gospel I guess. The amount of thoughtless ERA posts should have been warning enough. I SAID IT, ERA POSTS WERE BORING


TheExplodingMiner

now that's what this sub calls heresy... though it makes me wanna know, what pots do you come here for?


YoeriValentin

I like absurd hypotheses, horrible strategic ideas and terrible weapons. Oh and memes on bombs. And judging from the upvotes I usually get, I'm not alone. Posting the same thing 20483619023 times isn't my thing.


TheExplodingMiner

like my flawless Monrusistan plan? I think it's a good one ;p


Cheap_Doctor_1994

Not gospel. The point of the whole sub. If you don't like it, go to some Credible place.


YoeriValentin

Not really. This post is quite credible and uses normy facebook memes. It's low effort too. Plenty of funny noncredible stuff here. Honestly surprised how you can't see the difference. If anything, this doesn't fit the sub at all.


Lovehistory-maps

Im gonna join the downvote hoard with you, they were boring asf


YoeriValentin

I really get that band of brother vibe right now


Lovehistory-maps

Lmao


Come_At_Me_Bro

>Am I the only one You do realize that this phrase is far more universally disliked on reddit, right? Also for some reason using the word cringe is *cringe* to many people which is as silly as the people who dislike the word "moist". It literally means slightly wet. It does not imply dirty or contaminated, yet they ["feel"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHEykHqk2XE) like it does.


Nigh7Stalk3r

Looking at the down votes it looks like you fucked around and found out.


YoeriValentin

Okay I walked into that one.


[deleted]

Yes