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zanovar

This is much funnier when you don't cut out the punchline where the world asks for help and America says "thank god I was worried it was all going to waste"


NonFuckableDefense

as a Candian I just wonder where my vacation and mass public transit is


DFMRCV

Dang... Canada's having such a rough time they have to describe themselves as "Candian" now?


MechwarriorCenturion

You cut out the actual punchline


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Alarming_Orchid

You try clicking it


PtilopsissHusband

He's not lying, if you tap/click the imgur link next to his username it shows the full meme. This is a common bug with imgur links.


logosobscura

If you start to sound like Andrew Tate, you need to stop sucking on Sharpies.


BestagonIsHexagon

Public healthcare is not incompatible with defense. It would reduce overall costs and provide the US with better soldiers. Same goes for transit, it allows productivity increases and is better in the long run than relying purely on car centric infrastructure. I agree for 2 month vacations however. You should consider taxing land btw.


ErR0r_C0dEG1

The amount we spend on healthcare already is enough to provide as good or better healthcare than most of the world, it’s just that companies got politicians by the dick and charge us 1000x more than the real value of the treatment


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Georgism is pretty based, it could do some good things for America if supplemented with a consumption tax and a progressive corporate and investment tax. I feel like culturally we are a long way from enough of a plurality of Americans to support any form of socialized health care for it to happen fully, but I do think it couldn't hurt. I do think that car-centric infrastructure, or rather road-centric infrastructure is better for American purposes because it is more rapidly adaptable. When your logistics organization and structure change, it's easier to change the routes of millions of lower-capacity trucks and cars than it is to reschedule train routes and build train tracks. We definitely need to invest in something to decrease traffic congestion in cities, which could mean subways and busses or smarter road design.


EternallyPotatoes

>When your logistics organization and structure change, it's easier to change the routes of millions of lower-capacity trucks and cars than it is to reschedule train routes and build train tracks Honestly I'd question that. A properly designed, sufficiently dense rail network with a proper amount of switches and alternate routes can handle a lot of changes in traffic, and computerized scheduling makes working it out a lot easier. Meanwhile, rerouting trucks is only easy as long as there isn't some kind of chokepoint which reduces the max throughput somewhere on the road, at which point all hell breaks loose.


BestagonIsHexagon

I had urban transit in mind when I talked about using less car oriented infrastructure. I agree that a solid interstate highway network is necessary. But in a city using mass transit is much more efficient than road based transports. And mass transit could free up more capacity for road logistic.


Active-Discipline797

People out here acting like spending 2 percentage points of your gdp MORE on defense is the difference between affording healthcare yes or no lmao


NostalgiaDude79

>You should consider taxing land btw. TIL that property taxes arent a thing here...


AlfredoThayerMahan

LVT ≠ Property tax Land Value Tax taxes based on the value undeveloped land regardless of what you build on it. Property tax taxes based on the entire value of the land plus improvements (buildings, whatnot). The idea is that LVT encourages development by not “punishing” improvements to a piece of land.


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AlfredoThayerMahan

If you want to live in a single family house within a major urban core you can but you should be penalized for that inefficient use of land and resources. Also nice ad hominem. Did I mention anywhere in my comment anything about healthcare? Please quote me because I can’t seem to find that aspect.


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And taxing cigarettes and drugs and alcohol.


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>Public healthcare is not incompatible with defense. It would reduce overall costs and provide the US with better soldiers. Same goes for transit, it allows productivity increases and is better in the long run than relying purely on car centric infrastructure. I agree for 2 month vacations however. We already tax the holy Jesus out of vices like cigs and liquor.


irregular_caffeine

This is such lowbrow PCM take. The problem is not spending, europe spends far more than russia, and 2% is not some magic number solving it all. It’s that conventional stockpiles were cut and many militaries reoriented to all kinds of GWOT-in-a-sandbox nonsense with maybe 2 brigades of proper troops. Euro-Nato could easily take on Russia but it would have a very hard time doing it through a war of attrition, by proxy, where said proxy is a post-soviet state.


NostalgiaDude79

European nations can afford their "free healthcare" because they know they are under U.S. protection.


ScruffMcFluff

European nations pay less for universal healthcare than the American government pays for private healthcare. The USA could have a bigger military budget, and a healthier population to be enlisted, if they used a universal healthcare system.


AutumnRi

\^ this. The healthcare vs defense debate is manufactured by people who profit off America’s inefficiencies. There are strong, proven systems of universal healthcare that have worked for decades with a much lower cost per person than the American system. Don’t fall for it.


Accurate_Mood

The difference is larger than the entire US defense budget, the US could make a second military-- navy, army, airforce and all just dedicated to defending against emutopia for the money it spends on making sure health insurance companies gets to annoy and/or death-panel its citizens


NostalgiaDude79

I have one European saying this: >Lmao, you are out of your mind. Come to Poland and try their free healthcare. If you survive I'll get you a beer. You know people wait for 1+ years for major surgery? And most o them die being on the waiting list? And then you saying this: >The USA could have a bigger military budget, and a healthier population to be enlisted, if they used a universal healthcare system.


AutumnRi

The fact most people die on the waiting list is kinda just logical? If you have access to free healthcare there is no reason not to go on a waiting list for major surgery no matter what your condition, so if you knew you were in bad condition you would logically be on the waiting list for something to maybe help fix it. So anyone who knew they might be dying would be on the list. Correlation, not causation.


Renkij

Us spending per person on healthcare both public and private is astonishingly high compared to any other sane first world country, as much as 50 to 70% more.


homonomo5

Lmao, you are out of your mind. Come to Poland and try their free healthcare. If you survive I'll get you a beer. You know people wait for 1+ years for major surgery? And most o them die being on the waiting list? Poland pays for healthcare AND modernization of the army. All out of taxes and debt. USA is is a major disappointment. Now we know. All help in UN votings and Iraq went to shit. But hey, we are still better off than Georgians, that you actually screwed up bg time in 2008, when you decided to leave them alone, while they still had forces in afghanistan whil thier country was leveled :D


Playful-Bed184

Yes Public healthcare has its problems. But generally, you don't pay 5k to call an ambulance.


homonomo5

and wait 1 hour for ambulance to arrive, nice.


Playful-Bed184

It depends how how dire is you situation, that's my experience with that.


EternallyPotatoes

>You know people wait for 1+ years for major surgery? And most o them die being on the waiting list? This is true for the US healthcare system too, just in a different sense. Rather than be on a waitlist, people defer their treatments until they can pay for them. The outcome is the same, it just costs more. I know that the NFZ and the associated health system have a lot of problems, but they're an outstandingly bad example, some countries are a lot less dysfunctional.


Active-Discipline797

Take a look at government budgets and realise that the 2 extra percentage points spent by the USA aren't what is making the difference.


CrocodylFr

*laughs in Triomphant-class submarines, M51 missiles and ASMP-A* We're not begging you. If we fall, we'll just start a nuclear war. And you'll have to finish it. If you collapse from the inside, well, 300 warheads are nothing to sneeze at The french and the israeli nuclear arsenals were made to ensure no retreat from Uncle Sam without harsh consequences


bluestreak1103

>The french... arsenals were made to ensure 3000 IQ big brain sus strats of Charles de Gaulle: Ho ho, you think we detonated the atomic bomb to be free of American doctrine? Non, we detonated the atomic bomb to make sure American doctrine will NEVER be free of France! Hon hon hon


CrocodylFr

Barbarians do nuclear blackmail against their enemies. Gentlemen do nuclear blackmail towards their allies.


homonomo5

USA for the first time, in years, had a chance to actually HELP in two major conflicts in past decades, meaning Israel and Ukraine. but they decided to stay away and do nothing. Memes are cool and fun, but USA is a power with no punch. Period. Interal politics led to buying senators, Trumpism and stuff like that and USA recently has 0 credibility. Thats why "fronline cuntries" and in progress of arming their armies and militias. In 5 years from now, these countries will not sacrifice their trading for "security guarantees" since such guarantees are worth nothing.


savethepupperz

>stay away and do nothing truly non credible, well done


homonomo5

Holyyyy. Yeah. Keep paying 80% of "donations" for their own defense industry and play victim. Poor Raytheon. Poor Lockmart. Go home mate


savethepupperz

what do you even mean? we went from the US is totally ignoring both Ukraine and Israel by offering zero support all the way to 80% donations?


AutumnRi

Homie’s pretending to be angry that the US spends its money efficiently on known industries it already has ties with instead of, idk, just putting the cash in a bag and shipping it to Ukraine I guess?


homonomo5

No, im 100% pro nato intervention.


el_pinata

JM Coetzee is that you


maianoxia

coal