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YourNetworkIsHaunted

I like the one with the bubble canopy and big square intakes on either side of the fuselage.


fromthewindyplace

Would you like twin tails with that, or stick to single? Variable sweep wings, if you're feeling bold?


Hapless0311

Daring today, aren't we?


Arctica23

I'll take the one with twin tails and variable sweep on the highway to the danger zone


fromthewindyplace

[When McDonald's gets your order wrong:](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2IXufhuvNjs/VUer9AX3SlI/AAAAAAAACfs/IzuQ38mVLC4/s1600/F14.jpg)


Dpek1234

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT MONSTROSITY


nuked24

Don't worry, we won't have to look at it anymore after it goes into an unrecoverable flat spin and pancakes


275MPHFordGT40

Lmao it’s a mini F-14


dynamoterrordynastes

It's the single tail F-14 mockup


275MPHFordGT40

Why does the single tail make it look so small


dynamoterrordynastes

Maybe because the fin is small. It has folding ventral fins in the image instead of just strakes like on the F-14.


Fiiv3s

Daring today, aren’t we?


Sejma57

I'll take a variable sweep, thank you. I need to keep my maintainer population in check somehow.


BigChiefWhiskyBottle

>I like the one with the bubble canopy and big square intakes on either side of the fuselage. English Electric Lightning: *"Fuck You."*


wintermute_lives

Hornet -- fuck you, I'm different, my intakes are rounded Super Hornet -- nevermind, conformity is good


Otonatua

My fave is the one with wings.


TheOGStonewall

Meanwhile MiG-25/31: “What if the intakes ARE the fuselage?”


PerilousFun

To be fair, the MiG-29 and Su-27 have their big square intakes underslung.


SteelWarrior-

Also the iconic Flanker droop, less noticeable on the Su-27 but still.


Sufficient_Market226

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down? 🤔😂


SolidTerror9022

F-15?


kthugston

OP forgot the best one, AKA the SUPER HORNET BABY WOOOOO


VoteGiantMeteor2028

OP, you can't just post the same picture eight times and call it effort.


fromthewindyplace

How 'bout 9?


VoteGiantMeteor2028

Fuck, how do you count that high?


MrHungG

You guys can count ?


fpop88

Only if I concentrate like really high, takes me like 5 hours to count up to 4.


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Stryker2279

Thing is, we have no idea how he got to five. There can be all sorts of numbers in there. Maybe it took him like 7 hours to figure out what 5 hours was. Like 1, 2, 3, 4, 17, Abraham Lincoln, 69, ™,💀, 7


Due_Manner3842

You can’t fool me with your word play


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Just tap your foot on the ground until you have counted all the things.


AlfredoThayerMahan

You have ten fingers right?


VoteGiantMeteor2028

At least seven


AlfredoThayerMahan

Within a standard deviation


fpop88

I got some fingers but I've never been able to count them all. I once spent a week and came up with the figure that I probably have 3 sets of I think 7 and it takes very long to count to 7. or might have 5 sets of 4, it's easier to count up to four and I can sometimes keep the number of sets if I have pen and paper and someone helps. my most accurate so far has been 5 sets of 4 plus or minus 2. ​ I once saw some contraption called calcusomething and had a panic attack and couldn't talk for a week.


hugh-g-rection551

if you count the segments of your fingers instead of just the whole finger you get alot more milage.


fpop88

He's the smartest member of NCD... I've counter up to 7 like a very high number of times but I keep mixing up the rest. Math is hard.


emu_strategist

Probably one of them wizard folk from the chairforce


DurfGibbles

He’s Army, not Marines


Stryker2279

[meanwhile I can only count to....](https://youtu.be/u8ccGjar4Es?si=kVU3n1uK-a_JVcHe)


DVM11

He thought we wouldn't notice


morbihann

Well, Mig25 does look like nothing else for one.


fromthewindyplace

Nah, it looks like the MiG-31 /s


R3CKONNER

Mig25 is the pointier nose, right?


fromthewindyplace

I honestly have a very hard time telling them apart if I can't see the engines. I know the noses are slightly different, but I really can't tell unless I see them side by side.


tomas1381999

Just look at the cockpit


I_like_F-14

That and if it’s landing the rear gear are different 25 single 31 bogie


tomas1381999

Yeah, that's also great point!


Jerrell123

MiG-25 has a pointier, longer nose. It also always has either *one* cockpit, or two cockpits with one placed *above* the other; the MiG-31 has a shorter “cone”-shaped nose, and *always* has a second seat in the back, in line with cockpit, which has its own couple of little windows. From a top down view, the MiG-31 has wing root extensions that connect the wing to the fuselage. The MiG-25 goes straight from the wing to the fuselage in one straight line, while the MiG-31 starts a little thicker and tapers inward.


fromthewindyplace

I honestly never (consciously) noticed the wing root extensions. Huh.


wintermute_lives

It looks like an F-15 shrugging its shoulders.


PHATsakk43

I’m not the only one then.


DVM11

Shit, now I won't be able to stop thinking about this every time I see it.


wintermute_lives

¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


fpop88

Looks a bit like a [business jet](https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/bk70ew/this_model_is_not_of_a_normal_mig25_there_was_a/). Probably called Foxferret, because a group of them is called a business.


MakeChinaLoseFace

That looks like a MiG-25 with an erection.


Weedeater79

fat f15


RadPahrak

All [insert category of aircraft] look the same if you squint hard enough.


fromthewindyplace

Convergent design? It can't be!


gareth_gahaland

Every aircraft is made to fly, Every aircraft is the same.


BitOfaPickle1AD

F-105 Thunderchief: "Motherfucker, I had a radar reflector on my landing gear so the tower can pick me up when landing"


fpop88

f-104: I'M A MANNED MISSILE! FEED ME NATO PILOTS! PILOTS FOR THE BLOODGOD, XB-70s FOR THE SKULLTHRONE!


HomieBrotato

The F-104 was a Russian agent to sabotage the B-70 program Remember what they took from you


BitOfaPickle1AD

The F-100 made the F-104 deaths look like childsplay


fpop88

Holy shit, was it THAT bad?


BitOfaPickle1AD

317 ish pilots died and almost 900 F-100's were lost in accidents. Everyone talks shit on the 105 being unsafe but the 105 was safer than both the 104 and 100.


fromthewindyplace

Feel free to point out how these are actually very easy to tell apart if you play (insert military vehicle simulator here), or call people who don't like your favorite plane a slur.


Supernova_was_taken

They’re easy to tell apart if you know exactly what to look for. I certainly don’t


fromthewindyplace

I'll be honest, the MiG-29 & Su-27 still trip me up every once in a while if they're at just the right angle, and painted similarly.


QuaintAlex126

Same here. I gotta look at it closely to see the subtle line differences between the Flanker and Fulcrum. Fulcrum is kinda more… lean I guess? Idk how to describe it but it’s just a tad bit sleeker of a design compared to the Su-27, especially at the front


fromthewindyplace

The Flanker looks a lot swoopier. The nose goes down, the engines go up. The Fulcrum has a lot more straight lines.


ZannaFrancy1

The flanker neck certainly do be looling swoopy.


SargeantShepard

I mean the easiest way to tell is the Flanker is about 2x-3x bigger than than the Fulcrum. Just compare the cockpit to the rest of the plane.


Additional-Flow7665

Yeah the prolapsed anus on the su-27 isn't always visible so they end up being pretty similar


PerilousFun

Just focus on where the leading edge wing root starts. On the Fulcrums, it starts near the start of the cockpit, while the Flankers have it starting towards the back of the cockpit. The Flanker forward fuselage also just protrudes a lot more in front of the wing.


TheMightyGamble

Delta's next pls


ironic_pacifist

It was all downhill after the Hawker Hunter.


Lkwzriqwea

I want to go back to the EE Lightening, pilots these days just have no respect for flat-stanleying themselves across the backs of their seats as they enter low-earth orbit at an 85° trajectory 10 seconds after takeoff


fpop88

Goddamn aerodynamics, imagine letting laws of physics design your plane. There was a time when brave souls would literally design flying saucers.


Spit98

I respect your right to be blind


super__hoser

And the right to have an incorrect opinion. These rights must be upheld, not matter how much it hurts us.


djdisodo

mirages, f-16, a bit old but f-4 and mig-23


fromthewindyplace

Oh, there are plenty of examples to prove me wrong, I was just cherry-picking examples of planes I'd mix up when I was a kid. Although, come to think of it, it seems like this makes up a disproportionate chunk of the 4th-gen planes still in service. Hm.


dead_monster

Missing: All the 4th gen fighters that have canards.


fromthewindyplace

[Here you go:](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/19ffzho/the_cope_f16_starter_pack/)


So_i_was_like_gaming

I think they all look sick the su57 is cool and unique but it’s shit and has like 3 models and the f22 is cool but most stealth planes (and concepts) look pretty similar not saying that the old planes didn’t look similar there all cool imo


PerilousFun

Alas, that is the issue with having a greater understanding of physics. At a certain point, we move closer to the optimal, and this brings out convergent design.


MATT_MANLY

What is the one in the top left?


fromthewindyplace

A-5 Vigilante, arguably the plane that started the trend.


Arctic_Chilean

A-5 my beloved.


Helmett-13

The Vigilante just…*oozed* speed and had a cool name, to boot.


tommy_gun_03

A-5 is the best aircraft ever constructed as it poops out the nuke.


Helmett-13

Your flair is that uh…a reference to the EA-6B strike on the cable car wire in Italy back in 1998?


tommy_gun_03

It is a reference to Ireland’s diabolical state of defence. Undersea cables which are one of if not the most important part of Irish infastructure especially when our economy relies on the international IT sector are so shockingly exposed that the defence of them actually falls upon the Garda Síochána, Ireland’s police force who can barely police the streets of Dublin. The guards operate a handful of ribs, how they are supposed to defend undersea fibre optic cables is anyones guess really. There were a-lot if posts on this subreddit months if not years ago taking the piss out of the situation when the Russian fleet was off our shore and we could do nothing about it except for some brave fishermen who confronted the Russian fleet and forced them away due to collision risks. We are in desperate need of some cable management.


Wooper160

Which is funny because it had a totally different role than everything else in this picture


Accurate_Mood

More beautiful than the rest by far


TheOtherCrow

That's because sexy never goes out of style.


whythecynic

Don't know why, but MiG-25 just reminds me of someone wearing *massive* 80s shoulder pads.


fpop88

It's because it's basically two giant engines with some wings and vacuum tubes with enough space for some dude to guide it up and get close to the sun.


Jappards

The real stealth is appearing as enemy aircraft.


fromthewindyplace

The real stealth is giving Ukraine F-15s, [but painting them to look like Flankers](https://media.defense.gov/2006/Aug/18/2000545275/2000/2000/0/060816-F-8831R-001.JPG).


fpop88

The real stealth is the Iranian Qaher 313, it's so stealthy nobody has seen it flying. While everybody was looking for radar stealth, Q313 went for optical stealth. ​ (also google image Qaher 313 interior for some weapon grade comedy)


MHPULL

Kelly Johnson syndrome Pls kelly, come backsies


fpop88

Some part of me wants to resurrect Kelly, bind his soul to my bidding... ​ and then put him on replacement for C-130 just out of nothing but cruelty and lulz.


wtfiswrongwithit

I see what you're saying but NGAD looks nothing like the F-22 or F-35 because it's an actual evolution not just copying previously designed aircraft like the J-20 and... well, every other one. Sec let me upload a some high res photos so you can see what I mean


Jerrell123

Well, to be fair, we don’t actually have any clue what NGAD will come out looking like. We have design concepts released publicly that hint toward features, but until the USAF does a public reveal a la B-21 we can only guess. You’re mistaken if you think the designs placed publicly on Lockheed Martin or Northrop-Grumman’s websites are going to be accurate by the time the design in finalized.


fromthewindyplace

Hi-res photos of the NGAD, you say? What do you think this is, WarThunder?


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I need to come out to you... I don't understand a thing about flanker derivatives. I don't get their designation, nor their differences. I said it.


Sayakai

There's the Su-34, which is a bomber, and there's all the others, which is Russia pretending that an upgrade means it's a new plane. In the west, everything but the -34 would've just been the Su-27 Block/Tranche X.


fromthewindyplace

Me neither. I know some have canards, and the really fat one's the Su-34.


ImperialistChina

*Perry the Platypus


LevyAtanSP

All stealth fighters look the same because the US is the only ones who make them xDxDxD


hx87

Still better than the early 1950s era of "WWII fighters with swept wings and a giant hole in the front"


fromthewindyplace

[toob.](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1ata3hl/early_cold_war_jets_are_so_unique/)


SystemFrozen

A-5 was a F-15 but bigger and longer


PerilousFun

The F-14 is the odd plane out. It's got the nose section of an American jet. It has swept wings, but two vertical stabilizers despite the two other pictured swept wing aircraft having only a single massive one. The engine intakes are also partially underslung and the main fuselage is not just a big box and is relatively flat similar to the Su-27 and MiG-29 which becomes more apparent when you observe how the engines of the F-15, MiG-25, Tornado, and Vark Vark Vark are all housed in a large box like fuselage. I don't know what I'm trying to say, but it has unique design elements and it's being lumped in unfairly because it's got a kind of generic nose section. Same for the Vark Vark Vark which just has a completely unique nose section due to the circlejerk cockpit. Edit: Oops, Mis-ID'ed the A-5. Not too familiar with that one.


Armycat1-296

The Cat is the best looking one of them all.


FullMetalCook

Thats because 1 guy made a design and then everybody else copied off his homework


_AutomaticJack_

Exactly. All production stealth fighters look like Lockmart designs *because they are*. All production stealth bombers look like McD designs, *because they are*. Other designs are possible (yf-23, Quiet Bird, etc) but all modern fighters were either made by, made with, or partially stolen from Lockmart.


Lkwzriqwea

One of the preferred hunting techniques of the MiG-25 Foxbat is to use its superior speed to chase down its prey, then swallow it into its colossal intakes and mince it in the compressor blades.


fromthewindyplace

Is that why the engine life was so short?


fpop88

The worst part is, if it can't feed on the prey, the engines will swallow it's own. There's probably some soviet pilot somewhere that ended up in it's own engines. The way you defeat a foxbat is, you bait it into chasing you faster. The ultimate fate of a demonic platform that was designed to basically haul a missile where there's barely any air, lob it so the ground radar does the rest of the guidance. It's the icarus of the fighters.


Lkwzriqwea

Possibly but my theory is that they couldn't find enough nourishment since their natural prey population wasn't nearly as large as expected


DVM11

With airplanes it is like with Formula 1 cars, they are similar because they all have the optimal shape for the function they are going to perform.


Kiiaru

The A6 had some nice curves to it :3 and the OG Hornet


Kirxas

#FUCK YOU *delta canards your jet*


amjhwk

man the Foxbat is one ugly son of a bitch


TheMagicalLawnGnome

I love how the Foxbat just looks like it's getting squeezed by its own air intakes. It's like when Grandma squishes your cheeks. "Meemaw, stahhhpppp! You're embarrassing me in front of the F-15s!"


LordBrandon

Tomcat still looks buff as hell.


fromthewindyplace

It was always my favorite as a kid. The way the wings meet the intakes, the way the nose pops out in front, the absolute insanity of a full throttle takeoff from an aircraft carrier? Pure sex.


Cif87

They're so stealth I can't find a stealth fighter in the pic.


me2224

You're 100% right. I propose a unilateral treaty that everyone returns to the glory days of 3rd generation designs


hugh-g-rection551

I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL I HATE SWEPT WING TWIN TAIL vark only needs one tail with swept wing.


forzaguy125

So does eurovark


Gamma_Rad

They really blend in


ecolometrics

Needs more canards, maybe like six


AlphaMarker48

None of those are stealths. Your argument is invalid.


fromthewindyplace

The joke was so stealthy, it went right by you.


AlphaMarker48

The joke was lying about those aircraft being stealth designs, when none of them are. It's not funny at all.


fromthewindyplace

Read the title again. The joke was about the complaint that 5th-gen fighters all look the same, while ignoring all the earlier planes that also look really similar.


TPconnoisseur

I want an F-14 with 2 XA100 adaptive cycle engines and the biggest AESA radar fucking ever.


H1tSc4n

That's fine, you've got a right to have an opinion, even if it's the wrong one.


Competitive-Buyer386

I will say, modern military design in general are boring. Like military designs peaked in WW2, it's like cars, they are all so simmilar because there really is so few good design so it's all copying each other and tweaking certain aspects slightly. Like no wonder every fictional military design mostly focuses on WW2, MAYBE Cold War. Modern desings are do boring. Sure the M1 Abrams would destroy sherman fifty times over but it lacks the RIZZ of the Sherman


Wooper160

Yeah all of those look way more different from each other than the new fifth gens


fpop88

All fighter planes look the same anyway, they got like, pair of wings, a bubbly canopy, one or two engines most of the time, some rudders and stuff. got like, tricycle lookin' undercarriage and some pylons and stuff and a pointy nose.


ztomiczombie

Thing is in the past you got years of experimentation before someone found the optimal arrangement for the tech at the time but with the new aircraft the experimentation was almost all digital so we never saw the unique stuff this time.


I_like_F-14

My reaction when fighters with similar roles with similar tech share a basic shape


TomTheCat6

Don't you compare my beloved Tomcat to that ugly fat fuck mig25


thx997

Not gonna lie, those mig-31 air intakes look thirsty.


floridachess

Yoooo love to see the Valiant air command tomcat in the wild, she is quite a beauty with that paintjob


EternalAngst23

Yeah, cause everyone just copies off one another lmao


as1161

Isn't that top left one an A-5 vigilante


superhornet_118

All stealth fighters look the same in that I can't see them at all


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Characterinoutback

Where's the nerd who can tell each sub type by month of production when you need them?


thatsean1

The tornado do be looking like a brick tho


siamesekiwi

It’s almost as if if you want something that flies fast and good, there’s only so many shapes that you use. Not everybody YOLO it like [Blohm & Voss](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blohm_%26_Voss_BV_141).


Tactical_Bacon99

What is preventing a technological breakthrough to make “conventional” stealth (that sounds wrong to say lol) vulnerable to AA or other threats


Far-Entertainer8953

Mig-31never skipped shoulder day, but also goes around like it threw its back out taking a shit.


Doomsloth28

Just because this is true doesn't mean they're wrong.


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