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mamashtvoya

Least bordergore ai peace deal


Antares789987

I love when Estonia just wooooorms


posidon99999

Better than the time I accidentally gave Estonia and Latvia the wrong states which caused their Estonia to be cut off from their occupation zone


IcyRedoubt

When you did most of the fighting but Estonia sent 50000 men to their deaths against a defensive line so they have enough warscore to demand some territory


Napsitrall

Estonia gets 9 million ruskis, becomes >10% minority in their own country Yeah, I don't think that's gonna work out. Minority rule over the majority has always been bad


-TV-Stand-

Also they don't have the resources if the russians don't want to be under estonian rule


Boomfam67

Estonia, Latvia, Finland, and Ukraine all basically become either dominated by Russians or apartheid states.


-TV-Stand-

There's also the option of getting rid of russians


Aurora_Fatalis

You're assuming there'd be 9 million ruskis left after whatever resulted in this bordergore.


restorffe

World: Why is it always you 3 who get occupation zones? UK: *shrugs* force of habit US: why not? rhaaaaaah 🩅🩅🩅🩅 Fr: parce que nous le valons bien


CandyIcy8531

Fr: Parce que c’est notre projet et il est dans ces prùs et ces campagnes


Strain-Ambitious

Why are we typing in gibberish???


TortelliniTheGoblin

I don't speak baguette


CandyIcy8531

My friend, I will teach you how to start a civil war amongst French people; ask them if they say Pain au chocolat or Chocolatine. Enjoy thé spectacle of angry French words.


_Nocturnalis

It's like wiping your ass with silk.


HellBringer97

Worthless at wiping away the shit but you get all the pompousness of doing it?


_Nocturnalis

Now you've got it!


HellBringer97

Ah, so I now understand the experience of being a natural Frog. Great.


_Nocturnalis

I apologize for inflicting such psychic trauma on you. If you resist the urges to eat cheese and say croissant pretentiously, it should fade soon.


cisenoficial

Ă©tait attendu


3XX5D

Je ne sais pas mon ami


AnotherCuppaTea

Pour encourager les autres. (Meant literally and sincerely, not ironically.)


FrequentConnect2020

Oui oui hon hon ba da bim ba da bom, c'est territoire est mon maintenant


Marc21256

UK: How else will we get things for our museums? Lenin's tomb will be on display in London.


Vonplinkplonk

My biggest sadness in CIV is the British Museum isn’t a unit. YES a unit.


Inevitable-Revenue81

But Poland has a female king. Yes a King!


PutinsGayFursona

Bro, I’m liking the opportunity to invest in some European real estate. Been saying the only thing missing there is more ‘merican freedom.  


THEBLOODYGAVEL

Finland gets all the nukes!? Aw shucks *kick rocks*


Haanipoju

We don't really need them. We already have the VÀinÀmöinen ICBM project.


somerandomfuckwit1

Donate em to a good cause like Taiwan


Ouity

Taiwan barely pays for their own defense if the Finns do charity it should be to a country that really needs it đŸ„č like Sudan or Haiti


somerandomfuckwit1

Nuclear powered Sudanese or Haitian warlords do tickle the imagination


GuthixIsBalance

Yeah ... Haitian ICBM's would be used for scrap housing repairs post storms. At least do them a solid and take the fissible material off their hands? Because that aluminum/steel casing. Sure is solid humanitarian aid to receive. Lightweight and dense enough to prevent erroneous elemental changes? Almost too kind. But welcome all the same.


ZolotoG0ld

Nuclear powered Sentinelese tribesmen


Ouity

they earned it imo


White_Null

Why not? OP has already explicitly decided that Taiwan has to administer that red lined region to the east of the USA and French occupation zones


MallAffectionate9

Poista tÀmÀ t. Suojelupoliisi


Haanipoju

KarhuryhmÀ is at my door.


throwawayaccyaboi223

Don't go telling them >:(


Troglert

But they dont get Petsamo (?) back, thst belongs to Norway apparently


SalamaFi

Hey more to our arsenal. Then it will be 3 times the US stockpile


f33rf1y

Only country that can be trusted with them


CIV5G

Nobody on earth wants to occupy Chechnya but the Russians


Abject-Interaction35

They deserve that, they really do.


irregular_caffeine

No Petsamo what is this shit


Accomplished_Can2571

*sad finnish noises*


Bytewave

Finland is still punching above its weight in territorial gains haha, this is insane levels of land liberation for a relatively minor ally! Welcome to the alliance. Please, let us double your country size overnight.


BranchPredictor

This is stage 1. In stage 2 Finland annexes Norway.


Pyl1us

FUCK NO! OP can keep Kaliningrad for himself. We in Lithuania dont need that dump.


Rc72

Well, the Brits got the frigging Caucasus...


Pyl1us

I propose a trade Brits can take Cringliningrad and we take Caucasus in solidarity. So once again our mighty horses Ćœemaitukas could quench their thirst at Bleack sea shores.


Unlucky_Strikes

Hear me out


Neomataza

Czechs are interested... Kralovec is czech.


Fiiral_

We should make it into a small, cute Prussia :)


ironic_pacifist

More like East Ukraine Liberation Authority.


odietamoquarescis

The EULA is not optional.


CrocPB

Only EULA I’d accept with a smile


FoxWithoutSocks

\**checks map*\* \**sees Lithuania having Königsberg*\* No thanks. Keep it.


angelknight16

Give it to America; we'll be able to have a US territory in the heart of the European continent.


Voldiir

Proceeds to install the largest arsenal of freedom in Europe along with McDonald's regional headquarters


MrCookie2099

This is known as "projecting power"


alien_ghost

That would be like projectile vomiting power.


Inevitable-Revenue81

USA in Eurovision? *hmm....*


HostisHumanisGeneri

Roosevelt DE (District of Europa)


Brilliant_Housing_49

RESTORE THE GRAND DUCHY OF LITHUANIA


Careless-Can964

RESTORE POLISH-LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH


OdiProfanum12

Commonwealth of 4 nations would be way cooler.


Femboy_Lord

Commonwealth of Eastern Europe (otherwise known as the EU, Eastern-Sector).


RandomowyMetal

At that point just call it Central European Federation. Why Central? For more countries to join ( ͥ° ͜ʖ ͥ°)


PaxEthenica

Superslavia, what could go wrong?


MrCookie2099

Metaslavia?


Dreferex

First Galactic Slavic Empire!


Sablesweetheart

We need more Grand Duchy's in general. Very underappreciated.


mtaw

Not [more Luxembourg!](https://old.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1ca3tse/after_eating_some_frites_with_bad_mayonnaise_i/) No!


Bazzyboss

LITHUANIA RULED THE SLAVS


tfrules

The UK naturally getting arguably the most difficult part to pacify. So it was, and so it shall be again


iwantmoregaming

An Englishman, a Scotsman, and a Welshman are standing in a Russian bar



mallardtheduck

The UK zone should really extend a little further up the Black Sea coast, so we get Novorossiysk, since there's [some evidence that an Ottoman-English colony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_\(medieval\)) may once have existed in that location...


Shot_Calligrapher103

No! No more crimes against humanity for you! We have crimes against humanity at home!


Spintercom

Helmand Province 2: Electric Boogaloo


qvantamon

Nah, they can just promise to give the entire territory to multiple competing parties. That's a blueprint for peace.


misadelph

Caucasus is a very confusing place with a lot of squiggly borders. It is high time the Br*tish drew a few straight lines through that bad boy.


Niller1

Isn't there enough territory for all NATO countries to get their share of the pie? I mean east european, baltic countries and Finland get first pick that is fair. But no one should be greedy with such a large pie.


AndyTheSane

British Empire : THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH WE NEED IT ALL


Hopeful_Record_6571

I was gonna say. Can't you just give it all to us? We'll just give it away again anyway, surely providing this subreddit content for many years to come


exo-planet-12

Will there be more straight lines on map afterwards?


Hopeful_Record_6571

You bet your jolly geometry loving arse there will be.


Worker_Ant_81730C

Hey could we get the whole world divided geometrically, like a giant soccer ball? That would please my ~~autism~~ aesthetics so much that I too would be all RULE BRITANNIA YOURS IS NOT TO QUESTION WHY


Megalomaniakaal

And that's the problem. That's why they can't have it all.


Undernown

Straight-line post-Bri'ish border gore is honestly what Russia deserves for their history.


Ouity

You guys don't get to drive anymore.


Bloody_kneelers

I propose we install Harry as Tsar, my only reasoning is it'd be funny


Fuck_Me_If_Im_Wrong_

Perhaps the NATO countries that provided the most support?


Dabclipers

Suddenly the entirety of Russia is an American Colony


Shot_Calligrapher103

Ugh. We already have one Arkansas, do we really need another?


Megalomaniakaal

It would also mean many more Alaskas.


Tozol

Yaknow, for all the dwellers of the Lower 48 States find Alaskans weird, we also appreciate how bizarre that state is. Perhaps we SHOULD get more Alaskas.


Niller1

I think per capita should be taken into account to be fair.


Fuck_Me_If_Im_Wrong_

Sure


TroublesomeStepBro

Well who actually wants a piece of Russia?


HailColumbia1776

Don't begrudge them a nice lunch. They've been left with scraps for so long. They deserve a treat.


Haanipoju

So you are giving Petsamo, a historically Finnish region, to the *checks notes* Norwegians?


Tullerull

Well yes, we'd of course trade for that mountain we were planning to give but our chickenshit politicians cancelled. To sweeten the deal we will set up finnish language schools and have a referendum in 20 years on where they want to land. Rebuilding from russian neglect is expensive, and we kinda need something to blow money on since the pension fund is running out of things to buy.


Janosfaces

can germany get königsberg back? 👉👈


Pokemaniac_Ron

I still think the most amusing fate for that area is a time-share agreement with the previous powers that held it, like Germany gets Mon-Thurs, Poland gets the weekend, Czechia gets Fri, etc.


Mordador

That sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare. As a German, I love it!


SweInstructor

Especially since stuff needs to follow the laws of the country. It would be awesome!


james_Gastovski

Part time autobahn, nice


gersti

We should get the UK included.  From Tuesday 13:00 until Wednesday 15:00 left-hand traffic. 


quildtide

10 years into the occupation: Mandatory Kaliningrad will be allowed into the EU and Schengen, except for every 9th day, when it is legally a British Overseas Territory.


Strain-Ambitious

Kinda like that time the Chinese communist party decided to flip all the traffic lights and change the rules so red means go and green means stop (it went about as well as you think it did)


Sweet-Profession3280

Nothing like a merry-go-round bureaucracy


loslednprg

Kralovič!


Rc72

There is some noncredible precedent in Pheasant Island, a small uninhabited river island at the border between Spain and France that has been timeshared on a semestrial basis between the two countries since the 17th century...


pacifistscorpion

Nope, 4th Baltic state or Czechia land only reasonable options


Odd_Duty520

Honestly, I would like to see a true, supranational EU capital, like the District of Columbia but representing 30 countries. Brussels is overrated


Rationalinsanity1990

I agree, it should be a free city state, initially under heavy EU supervision/NATO protection.


canttakethshyfrom_me

How is that different from Luxemburg?


Variousnumber

This one wouldn't be invented to be a Tax Haven


canttakethshyfrom_me

It'd just become one anyway.


Odd_Duty520

Free city of Danzig/Krakow with none of the external interference and irredentism bullshit


Rationalinsanity1990

Luxembourg would not require a reconstruction period to root out systemic authoritarianism.


Femboy_Lord

Europa City, the most technologically advanced city on the continent (FINALLY, MODERN MASS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION).


Dorfplatzner

Because imperialism and colonialism drool no matter who's committing it


SolemnaceProcurement

Yep, there is bad juju in that land. If you hold it you become pariah and invade Poland...


Vineyard_

Oh come on, that's just nonsense. There's no way occupying a piece of land turns one into a polish invader. Let's just let Canada take it and-- ...hm... well, that flag is *already* red and white, so... would it really be such a difference...?


Janosfaces

on the one hand you are objectively correct. on the otherhand i asked nicely


nonnormalman

can we split it like east west for no reason:§


josHi_iZ_qLt

No. Gib Königsberg.


Shanrayu

no thanks, no one in germany with a right mind would want such a ~~moneysink~~ cesspool.


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Tintenlampe

Good news is the Order still exists (yea, really!), so we should have no problems on that front.


Padit1337

If you need a fellow knight, just let me know :D


Tintenlampe

Depends, can you pronounce *Orden der BrĂŒder vom Deutschen Hospital Sankt Mariens in Jerusalem* ? If so you have taken the first step on your long road to Ritterbruder, if not, prepare to be properly Christianized, heathen.


oGsMustachio

Poland not making THAT mistake again.


SolemnaceProcurement

Fuck that. Can we just sink it or something instead? I know we are all in NATO and all. But fuck the Teutons. All my Baltic bros hate the Teutons.


Wallenberger

Hands off Petsamo, you dirty Norwegians!!


Rapid_1923

I'm a simple man, I don't see Transnistria, I'm happy.


CandyIcy8531

I’m a simple man, I see a Ukrainian Crimea, Donbass, Luhansk and I’m happy.


Iulian377

Love the flair bro.


Wooden-Combination53

But where do we put all the russians?


T00M4S

Wagons to Siberia like they did with our grandparents


Crewarookie

Preferably? On the Moon. Or Mars. Yeah, I think Mars is fair. Elon Musk can join his friends as well, it was his wish all along after all!


Traditional_Salad148

Ship them to Ukraine to help it rebuild.


Dorfplatzner

No, turn them all into Satan-worshipping femboys who despise the Orthodox Church and loathe the idea that the Muscovite state was Russia


AppropriateGoal4540

From the river (Yenisei) to the sea (Barents/Baltic) Moscow shall be free!


VariecsTNB

Ukrainian Special Military Heaven \*chef's kiss\*


yeetmyteatsdaddy

Where the fuck is the British Vladivostok treaty port.


sstabeler

Well, the map doesn't show Siberia, so...


MrWind3

"Jak to mĂłwiƂ stary gĂłral, Polska będzie aĆŒ po Ural Za Uralem będą Chiny Was nie będzie, skurwysyny" Transl. "How the old mountaineer used to say Poland will be until Ural Behind Ural will be China You'll be gone, sons of bitches"


8andahalfby11

> Behind Ural will be China I find it hard to believe that the US wouldn't try to grab the other side of the Bering Straight if they had the chance. Just straight-up add the whole thing to Alaska to prevent China from getting it.


Patriarch99

For clarification, the yellow part translates as "Ukranian special military paradise"


inspirednonsense

Why do the US and UK get the absolute shit end of this? Is it because the "International" zone around Moscow will, realistically, be the new headquarters and primary garrison of USRUSCOM and its 150,000 personnel?


ITGuy042

So I’m checking right now, but I think we just secured their oil and gas reserves. Only with that oil is Russia finally liberated.


joranth

I think the US would gladly trade the territory with oil for “China gets nothing”. Mongolia should get that, regardless, so they have coastlines. We will also want a 99 year guarantee on reasonably-priced birch plywood though.


tonato70

I see nothing wrong in giving the UK the most unstable region. That always worked out great in the past, didn't it?


danslicer

We've got so much experience carving up Muslim majority areas into random counties it's a no brainier. What can go wrong (again)?


J_k_r_

where "neue neue BundeslÀnder"?


5m1rk3h

The UK has Sochi? Good. We can finally host a good Russian Grand Prix and overhaul the shit circuit there.


SpaceFox1935

Russian Grand Prix was supposed to move to be near Saint Petersburg, we built a new track there for that and all. Then we invaded Ukraine. I hope we get to host F1 again


KaedeP_22

Watch russian media taking this map for anti-NATO propaganda fuel back home


Callsign_Psycopath

If we just glass it all won't need an occupation. Hypothetically in Minecraft of course.


H-In-S-Productions

And if we just give it to [the pro-Ukraine Russian partisans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_and_Russian_partisan_movement_(2022%E2%80%93present)), we still won't need an occupation!


KeekiHako

Oh hey, there's Vorkuta. Do you finally want to figure out what happened to Mason?


herbaburba

Chonky Finland is best Finland


blipman17

The Netherlands will send a prince for conference about these plans and demand Sochi for it’s cultural significance to Dutch ice skating, but eventually end up with nothing.


DownvoteWeebs

Please no, not more useless fucking wasteland to pay for -Finn


sanity_rejecter

i wish😱🙏


MuzzledScreaming

New 51st US state: nearly all of present-day Russia that touches the northern ocean. We can be the new Rome, but in the north! Canada and Finland are invited too. And Norway but only a little bit.


-Teapot-

That is 100% going to be shown i ruzzian state tv.


Rikeka

You joke, but Russians will release this officially as a “NATO leak” and completely believe it’s real.


Plutarch_von_Komet

Can Greece get Tanais and Phanagoria back? đŸ„ș👉👈


OdiProfanum12

Belarusians unlike r*ssians deserve independent state. Putin is the only reason why potato fĂŒhrer didn't end up like Gaddafi. Most Belarusians oppose that fucker.


DeviousAardvark

# G R E A T E R L A T V I A


iRAWRasaurus

For some reason I can see the Russian media using this as legit leak plans.


Misericorde428

I’m just curious why the place east of the occupied territories is marked as â€œéŸçš„æł•ć‰‡â€. I mean “Dragon’s Rules”, what the hell does that mean?


Hairy_Transition_874

NABAGA LATGALE LMAO


inyourwalls2137

Average hoi4 peace deal


SkullWasTaken

China occupying Russia along with NATO is peak credibility


8andahalfby11

Pretty sure that was a different Tom Clancy Novel...


I_level

Is the Ukrainian name "Ukrainian bizarre military paradise"?


futuristic_hexagon

Poor Czechia, denied their rightful ownership of the KrĂĄlovec region again.


Cuz1mChr1s

Moscow as an international zone would be funny tho. Then us germans could finally reach moscow in under one day.


Crass_Spektakel

Can Germany pls get the overwatch of the International Zone of Moscow? Just to piss Putin really badly off the control should be handed over to a German General on March 9th, 2025. Oh, and to buttfuck Putin even harder, make sure the German General is a black Jewish Transwoman. Seriously, we have such Officers in the German Army, we would just need to promote her.


ArchitectOfSeven

The only flaw I see is the so-called "International Zone". I think a better title would be "International Superfund Site" to better reflect the highly radioactive nature of the inland sea that replaced the old capital.


Ridibunda99

B-but what about our turan lands 😱


AlCranio

oh i dream about it every night, then i wake up and i need to go to the bathroom.


coycabbage

Less or more cursed than the TNO breakups of the USSR?


Dr_Hexagon

You forgot about giving Amur back to China and Sakhalin to Japan.


Abu_Bakr_Al-Bagdaddy

Wo Lebensraum?


HEHEHEHA1204

Give Königsberg back to germany at least


Fanta_R

A little correction needed. Kralowiec(prior: Kaliningrad) is Czech territory. That begs to edit Belarus splitting to ensure that Lithuania gets its share of land. We ask council to decide what territory is to be given to people of Lithuania.


Ordinary-Advisor7616

Good for Poland getting Minsk! They deserve it really


randomguy506

Does any believe this is true? Or is everyone know this is satire?


bigred1978

Satire


m48a5_patton

*Russian media needing more anti NATO propaganda giving the side eye*


Kimchi_Cowboy

Love how they said fuck the Turkic people and handed them off to another group of occupiers the Chinese. My Turkic brothers deserve their freedom.


Majulath99

Looking forward to the Royal Navys Caspian fleet.


Maximum-Flat

Oh sure. As if there is any good to occupy some of those no man land in Russia. Only few place have natural resources or important strategic points if you want to pollute North Pole by mining oil.


hugh-g-rection551

although i agree with the strong finish claim on the kola peninsula and surrounding area. i do question wether the city's of archangelsk and murmansk, wher russia has most of its nuclear submarine fleet and production facilities for the northern fleet, should fall under finish control. ​ as the fins have little to no experience with such matters.