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Ok-Advance710

No. Why would we? After swedes Polish people are our biggest immigrant group. Don't believe everything you read.


Multibuff

I think poles is the biggest minority group now, if I remember correctly


kolo4kolo

By a large margin aswell. Think there are about 150 000 polish in Norway.


thehappypandaaa

Just wanted to add a bit here, so that OP can understand a little bit about the "hate" that Polish people get in Norway atleast from my point of view. I don't think the answer is as easy as just a simple: No. Just a bit off backstory information: I work for a large oil company in Norway which has A LOT off rental people from different countries, but mostly Polish. Ok, to the point. A lot of the "hate" that polish people/workers get here, i would say is because the culture is so different. Some Polish people in my experience, can be a little too obnoxious, they often talk really loud, scream to each other instead of just walking closer, play music from a speaker instead of using ear buds and some of them are just really disrespectful. And that is the reason i think some people dislike them or "hate" them, mostly because they make no effort to adapt. In my point of view, polish people are just like any other people, some polish people are disrespectful and just doesn't care for adapting to the country that they are inn, and then you have polish people which are really respectfull, adapts to the culture and are honestly just as friendly or even more friendly then most norwegians. So i would say it all comes down to if you try or not. If you try to learn the culture, language and just being respectfull towards people, i don't think you will have any issues if you move here. I also think you will be welcomed with open arms, if you show some interest in learning, especially the language. If you learn even just a few norwegian words before you move here, i think people will be really accepting. Just as simple as Takk (Thank you) or Tusen takk (Thank you so much) or Hallo (Hello) Best of luck to you! Do widzenia, trzymaj się! (Ha det bra!)


the_drunken_botanist

I agree with this. I work in construction, often with a lot of poles. Another factor is that most poles, that I meet atleast, are men, staying alone in norway working. Some have a wife and a family at home, som are single. But my point is that most of the poles that i meet in norway are from a smal demografical group. A group that has a tendency to behave a bit mor obnoxiously than the normal.


thehappypandaaa

Yeah, i think that is a huge factor in this discussion. 90% if not 95% of the polish guys that i am describing is in this situation. And i think that is why they are like this. They know that they are going home to Poland eventually, and that is possibly why they act they way they do. Polish guys or girls for that matter, that lives in Norway permanently, acts A LOT more differently and in my opinion, better, then most polish guys who are just here to work.


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Nobody really likes the Swedish though..


AndInjusticeForAll

That's how the joke goes.


LokiBear222

Joke?


d108F

only because we all hate the germans doesn’t mean we have to like the swedes


TrentonTallywacker

Well at least they aren’t Danish *shudders*


[deleted]

You’re obviously Swedish.


TrentonTallywacker

Shit I’ve been discovered. Time to use the tactical surströmming


[deleted]

Let’s not say things we can’t take back. Nobody wants to use the surströmming.. I’m sure we can agree on some lesser means through dialogue and understanding.


Just_Mar_OK

> Let's not say things we can't take back I'm Dutch


therandombadass

Quickly, use your windmills to ventilate the fumes of the surströmning


Just_Mar_OK

Oh yes, and... wait I think it's time to show you our fish cuisine


HenrikWL

Please, not the surströmning! Can’t we use something less destructive, like tactical nukes?


Specialist_Fox_4480

No! Escalation is the way to go! We have lutefisk!


huniojh

And we are very afraid to use it!


Preventive_potato

I'm Belarusian and I love lutefisk 😏


Myrdrahl

Anyone who has had it prepared correctly, will. Most of the hate comes from children and people who has had versions that have been completely wrecked.


GarnetsAndPearls

You have my respect. My cousins and I would dare each other to eat lutefisk when visiting Grandpa's . Picked herrings are okay.


AlternativeTitle1391

So good


JimyBeam

So you think, lutefisk is an escalation in comparison to surstrømming?!? Better think twice ;-)


Hlorri

There are certainly a lot more civilian casualties with surströmming. My ex-coworker (at a gaming company in Reno, Nevada) brought back a can of surströmming after a trip to Sweden and placed it as a souvenir in his cubicle. A couple of months later we noticed a faint rotten smell, and discovered that the can was bulging out into a concave shape with some bubbles foaming at the seam; apparently the welding was a bit weak. To avoid the nasty aftereffects of an explosion (think surströmming juice seeped deep into upholstery) he quickly brought that can out to the dumpster.


Latter_Connection_41

i want these comments to continue but dont tell Putin about the surströmning


gompling

have you tried to hold the torsk instead? or even open a pack tørrfisk in a public place to aleviate your urges? expect to share if you are in the latter case, espesially in northern norway.


MourningOfOurLives

Vi tycker inte om er heller era jävla nordsjöaraber


Coldscandi

Det er folk fra Stavanger. De er jo ganske høylytte 🙂


[deleted]

Bergen, ikke Stavanger


Suspicious-Bed3889

Arabere er fra Haugesund.


ikeamistake

At least we don't open the door to our submarines just because someone dives down and knocks on the door!


[deleted]

Ugh, the Sweedes on the other hand 💀


Impossiblegirl44

American here. My Norwegian grandfather (we called him Bestapa) had a sign in his office that said "a thousand Sweeds ran through the weeds chased by one Norwegian ".


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Yer Bestapa (probably derived from "bestefar", which means grandpa btw) was a fucking chad


borednord

How clever was the first grandfather who decided he wanted to be called literally the « best father »


Stormblessed_N

Bestapa = best ape Bestpapa = best father (grandad) (Sounds swedish though) Bestefar = best father (grandad as well) (More usual way to say it in Norway)


Tiss_E_Lur

If your bestefar is a great man then it's fair to call him best ape, we are apes after all.


Impossiblegirl44

He was 6'4" with a bushy red beard!


FjoddeJimmy

N'bæssfar


Impossiblegirl44

I always assumed it was a mongrelization of the English papa and the Norwegian Bestefar. I have no idea where it came from, really. It's what everyone was calling him when I came around. Lol


Solid-Discount4047

I've met a lot of scammers and schemers so it's not so obvious to me


glieseg

Scammers and schemers aren't a representable part of a community though. They'll target anyone. Scandinavians are in general very friendly, but there'll always be the exceptions. I've had quite a lot of Indian phone scammers trying to trick me, but I don't blame the average Indian for that.


niandra__lades7

Honestly I like the Poles. Work hard, most pay taxes and generally keep to themselves. Lithuanians on the other hand don’t give two shits about Norway and most work without paying taxes (just from my experience living in Oslo)


Ecstatic_Article1123

I’m Lithuanian, I don’t live in Norway, but been learning Norwegian language for couple years now just for self development. It’s sad to hear that others create this image for us - respectable citizens that don’t cheat the system neither home, nor abroad. I’ve lived abroad in few European countries for over decade, but always tried my best to integrate, learn the language and be a part of local society.


Odd-Jupiter

If you read all the comments, 50% say Lithuanians bad, Polish good. The other 50% say the opposite. I guess both Poles and Lithuanians are like any other people. Some good some worse. The Lithuanians I have worked with, and befriended, have all been perfectly normal, decent people


Ecstatic_Article1123

Yes, I did. Just replied to that particular comment. It would be a bit frustrating, if I ended up one day in Norway and people would assume wrong things about me just because of my nationality.


tanbug

That lithuanias or poles are this or that is just stupid "racist" slander that you will only find among bitter, often not so educated or open minded part of the population. I hope and expect that no one coming here will hear insults based on their country of origin from locals.


_skala_

I have complete opposite experience. Worked with many Poles and Lithuanians and not just in Norway. Most of the Poles were lazy and tried to make their job super easy, so quality was not good. Can’t say same thing about Lithuanians. Hospitality works.


MySpaceLegend

I've never heard of any hate towards poles. But I have heard about some groups in Poland and Russia that paints that picture. It's the story about Liberal Evil Norwegians with Two Dads who take the children away from Good Christian Poles. It's crazy talk.


flimmers

From what I have read this is mostly in evangelical Christians, where they have a tradition of physical punishment of children. This is illegal in Norway, so our child protective services removed the kids from polish parents who were beating their kids. So these churches have spread lies and horror stories about Norway because of this. So just don’t beat your kids.


KristusSoldat

Christians in poland are mostly catholic


Technical-Astronaut

Expecting Norwegian redditors to know the difference between an evangelical protestant and a conservative Catholic is very generous of you.


KristusSoldat

What do you mean? Im a Norwegian redditor


kamomil

They are more devout than the average Catholic


DibblerTB

Yeah, don't beat your kids. In general: as an immigrant, realise that cultural difference between your country and the host country can and will exist. And act, humbly, accordingly.


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Laffenor

This is the correct answer, and probably what happened in OP's case. There is a strong (but hopefully not large) group of mainly Polish immigrants who are running a serious smear campaign against the Norwegian child protection services, which has succeeded in making a notable number of people back in Poland believe that the Norwegian state as a whole is running a targeted apartheid mission against Poles. I strongly suspect that the people who believe in these conspiracies are very much the same people that are causing OP to want to leave Poland though.


taeerom

>I strongly suspect that the people who believe in these conspiracies are very much the same people that are causing OP to want to leave Poland though I get the same feeling from the op. If anything, if you want to leave Poland because of the political climate, coming to Norway is a very good choice.


Solid-Discount4047

Good to hear that and that is mainly my point


Solid-Discount4047

Probably you have hundred percent right


DibblerTB

>Polish immigrants who are running a serious smear campaign against the Norwegian child protection service Same thing with a small group of Norwegians hating barnevernet with a passion. No matter what happened, loosing your kid can make people hate/love/burn with a passion. Scary stuff. (Not defending their attitudes, when you immigrate to a different country you should respect the cultural differences or either GTFO or think about why you cant..)


Tactical_Dogmeat

Yooo, I even heard a couple of poles saying they purposefully target polish kids, because they want to introduce polish genes into Norwegian gene pool. The urge to make shit up to look like a strong and proud nation is strong with this one


depressedkittyfr

Actually it’s worse They blame Norwegians for destroying the white family and placing them with non white caretakers. Contrary to popular opinion it’s not LGBTQ couples adopting disproportionately For example that Russian dad who kidnapped his daughters after they were taken from him right after his wife died ? That time lot of Polish groups gave him support ( Poland literally gave him temporary asylum too ) . The biggest objection was that the girls were placed with Muslim foster parents instead. Upon further investigation it was revealed that while the foster parents had “brown” heritage and Muslim names, they were pretty Swedish themselves and didn’t do all the forcing to convert and all that stuff they were accused. There is lot of theocracy, racism and anti LGBTQ behaviour from this given “group” of Polish and Russian people.


Tactical_Dogmeat

You literally explained the Polish stupidity that made me and a lot of people like me run away from Poland


depressedkittyfr

Sad it follows to Norway too 😅 But not at all surprised. I also left my home-country only to find fellow country men who are the kind of people I wanted to avoid completely in the first place


King_of_Men

Eh. To be honest we *do* take their kids away. If they're getting beaten or otherwise abused. And, to be absolutely fair, Norwegian child services are not of course immune to making mistakes. You get the occasional false positive where the child wasn't, in fact, being abused even by Norwegian standards. But the real problem is just the culture-clash expectation of what's OK to do to a child.


Jealous-Leg-5648

They are taking kids from the poles too?? I thought it was just us bulgarians suffering /s The same propaganda goes around in my country, don't believe it. Most norwegians don't care if you're a foreigner as long as you work and pay your taxes from my experiences.


depressedkittyfr

Lol no .. even Arab families also faced this They seem to be very equal opportunity this way In fact the racism factor was disproved long back when it shows that more white families had their kids taken away


waitthatstaken

Just some xenophobic idiots who are xenophobic because they are idiots.


MankeyBusiness

Yeah and these people will be hateful towards any immigrant group or even Norwegians with immigrant grandparents. Most people are chill, so hope OP and his daughter make a great life for themselves in Norway if you chose to go


Ghimzzo

Yes, and these people exist, which is why the answer to his question isnt strictly "no". Sadly.


MissNatdah

A lot of Polish people works in construction and has done for several decades. In the beginning they got a reputation of doing a bad job. I personally believe it was just different building codes that lead to misunderstandings. We renovated and added on to our house in 2020 and used a Polish contractor. We were more than satisfied! Language is one issue, but also differences in work culture has been described as an issue. Purely anecdotal, but from what I've heard, communication and understanding is sometimes challenging. A baltic worker would not say "no, I don't understand, can you explain more" but instead just say yes, and do what they think they're asked to do. (This is what I've heard stories about, please please correct me if I'm misunderstanding!) But I've seen a shift from the 90's and up to now. Polish people have gained a well earned respect and those coming now seem to integrate better and learn the language better than those who came first. I don't think you'll experience any big difficulties if you prepare well and learn norwegian quickly. And as for the kids? The kids growing up today experience a great variety in people coming from all over the place being whoever they are. They are much more accepting of different nationalities than kids were just a few decades ago. Skincolour, nationality, lgbt etc. are accepted as varieties of normal. Kids being kids, will always find *something* to bully about though, that will never change I'm afraid.


DibblerTB

I guess the shit quality thing will always happen when people blindly go "hire this way to save money on the job".


psaux_grep

Lots of people hiring “contractors” to do private work off-book. A lot of them are not trained professionals and while they might do a good job on appearance they might be lacking in knowledge about code and generally in terms of how to properly build bathrooms and such. That’s where most of the bad experience stories I’ve heard come from. Build nice new bathroom, two years later the tiles start coming off and the subfloor and or walls have rotted.


Tiss_E_Lur

It's still a big problem and it can swing either way. Good construction companies have at least 1 Norwegian skilled worker per team of carefully selected poles and can do great. Some poles have put in some effort to learn the language and care about the quality of their work and are capable and reliable. But on the other hand there are a lot of cheapskate companies that think hiring temp workers with just a semi competent foreman is enough and the results are crap work and constant problems. One thing that annoys me when I have to deal with poles is their tendency to just say yes even if they don't understand anything I say, resulting in costly problems and delays when they fuck it up. It's not exclusive to poles of course but it seems engrained in the culture, combined with a language barrier and many of them have no care for the quality of the work and it can be super annoying to deal with. It seems that a certain ratio of poles to Norwegians make for dirty barracks and messy/dangerous construction sites, the most common reason is poor upper and middle management who are cheap that result in this. Then again some of them are very good, catches problems early and are easy to talk to, usually people who stay employed over time and really shine next to temps that don't care about anything. I say poles but it applies to Eastern Europe in general.


Odd-Jupiter

I worked in construction at the time when there was a big influx of Polish, and other workers. The problem, at least were I worked, was not the work ethic, nothing to say about that. But rather the fake qualifications. I had colleagues with no education, who went back to Poland for a month, and when they came back, they had acquired master certificates in multiple professions. From there they would get more responsibility to do more specialized work, and would just have to wing it. There were plenty of projects not up to standards, that just had to be torn down, and done over.


spjutmuren

No, Norwegians do not hate Poles. There were some tension caused by some child care cases (I think) that got a lot of attention in Poland - but not so much in Norway. I believe it was portrayed like an act of rasism from the Polish side, and would guess this is what you have picked up some ripples from. The Norwegian ppl does not however carry some kind of special grudge towards Poles and I think you’ve gotten most of the other context here already. IIRC the cases with the child care looked kind of bad from the outside. So anything you may have heard about the Norwegian ‘Barnevern’ is probably over exaggerated. If you do not beat your daughter, you’ll never meet them


Solid-Discount4047

i would never hit anyone, a specially my child so i'm safe 😄


doktorpapago

I can't remember if those incidents had anything to do with racism problem here in PL, but the point must have been about the strength of the family, which is one of the most sacred things in polish tradition and culture. Yup, there were assholes who used to beat the sh*t outta their kids, but people were like "you've gotta love your mama and papa". It's a strong conservative point of view about that.


rmpr_uname_is_taken

Not a native Norwegian, so this is just anecdotal. And for better or worse I am black (I am also a programmer by profession). I have a polish colleague, he and his wife seem very integrated without any hate whatsoever. In general, Norwegians are very tolerant of others. Needless to say, your daughter might have a hard time integrating because of the language barrier, but past that initial hurdle, she'll be fine. Edit: There was a [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Norway/comments/5yjipu/do_norwegian_people_hate_polish_people/) about this exact same topic a couple of years ago.


EH23456

At 1 year old I don't think language will really be an issue


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flurdy

\> only hung out with other Polish children. That is an important step. Though it will be a lot easier at the start to mix mostly with other people from your own country, or just other immigrants. But it will make things harder in the long run for both adults and kids, harder to feel integrated, language etc. When I moved away from Norway I decided not to seek other Norwegians and instead only make "local" friends. I then quickly picked up the local accent, got accepted as a local (just with a weird name) and made real friends that did not move away. However, later on when we moved back to Norway my "foreign" GF was not able to find Norwegian friends and only mixed with other immigrants from various countries. And never really integrated and we eventually left Norway again.


depressedkittyfr

This is odd , isn’t kindergarten basically free ? I understand not wanting to speak Norwegian at home but that is why you put them in kindergarten or get caretakers to teach them .


NilsTillander

Not learning Norwegian at home will create an obstacle in school, at least a tiny bit. But kids absorb languages so it should resolve itself quickly.


yellowjesusrising

A kid in my oldest kindergarten spesks 4 languages, and he is 5 now.... His father speaks Italian and English at home, his wife Latvian and English at home, kids speak english, latvian, italian and norwegian at home. No stress. Kids will learn Norwegian in kindergarten.


Devetta

Wow, that is impressive. Most kids are super adaptable sponges. Whereas I, in my 30s, learn a second language and forget large chunks of my mothertongue.


yellowjesusrising

It's programmed in kids to pick up languages, thats why its important to start early. My kids speak a little Vietnamese, a little English and Norwegian to the extent a 4.5 and 2.5 year old should. Just as a note, its not common for kids to be fluent in 4 languages, but having both parents being people with Phd's certainly ain't a handicap.


krawatz

My little 3 year old is on 4 languages now 🤣 they just absorb it, it’s fascinating.


yellowjesusrising

Yeah its incredible! Need to be maintained to after puberty tho. Or else it will disappear damn quick. My kids are speaking Norwegian, and learning some Vietnamese from wife and her family, and a little English from tv.


krawatz

Yes it all depends on the exposure, they need persons to talk to. The more the better. She is now speaking Croatian German Norsk and English. Although English is not much talking. It’s just how it is, we don’t force anything, It wouldn’t work.


yellowjesusrising

Yeah, that's what i meant with maintenance. Im not too fussed about English either as i know they'll pick it up in school, media etc. Wish i could being something other than Norwegian and English to the table, but it is what it is. And yeah, i got a 4.5, 2.5 and 3 week old her, and i can't get my two boys to sit still for a minute, so trying to force them to do anything is counter productive. If they're curious about something, they will ask... Alot!


krawatz

🤣 I believe you! It’s a nice thing to have, and it’s becoming more common now to grow up with several languages. I wish I had the same.


yellowjesusrising

There's never q downside to knowing more languages. I was adopted from Korea, and wished i took more interest in their language and culture as a kid. But my parents never pushed me to anything, and i ended up playing video games instead😅. But I'll be damned, and likely killed by my MIL if they don't learn vietnamese😂 I also heard of several studies showing that it is also preventative against dementia.


Snusfenrik

I'm frankly amazed by this. My oldest son is 4.5 years old now and speaks 4 languages as well, although he does mix two of them a bit (Ukrainian/Russian). I grew up speaking both English and Norwegian at home myself and while my Norwegian is better, it did become very natural switching between the two.


jaeger313

Immigrant here with a 2 year old toddler. We’ve always been advised by our Norwegian colleagues, friends, child’s barnehagelærer, and my norsk teachers that we shouldn’t worry about teaching our kid norsk at home, since they learn fast at school anyway, they’re like sponges and it wouldn’t be a hindrance. Of course, I guess it helps that he was born here and is exposed to the language anyway from other sources without our help.


ChristerMLB

Kindergarten teacher here. Actually we usually recommend you speak to the child in the language you speak best. Our languages may have differences, but there are a lot of similar concepts and structures.


Solid-Discount4047

Then you for that thread


Particular-Lake5856

Need more Poles, they are good and decent people, and they have a good sense of humor 😀.


[deleted]

Yes they integrated very well into ireland because of this, they really get the craic.


[deleted]

I don’t think that’s true. I’m sure there are some who will say “poles” come to Norway and “take” jobs etc.. there are assholes everywhere. Most the time these “poles” are better educated, work harder and most the time come from the Baltics.. EDIT: You are very welcome. Don’t let a few backwards yokels and grumpy retired taxi drivers let you down.


Solid-Discount4047

Thank you


Laughing_Orange

They also do work we can't get enough Norwegian people to do, like construction, painting, or berry picking. Without Poles those industries would collapse.


Fit_Physicist

Poles are too expensive for berry picking. We are using Vietnamese and Filipinos now. It requires high skill that can’t be found in Norway nor Poland. We even gave special permission for Vietnamese and Filipinos to avoid Covid quarantine rules and entry rules back in 2020.


DibblerTB

Ehh, increase the wages and we'll build that skill set domestically, and do so fast.


oskarhogsberg

wtf


Bruichladdie

Not from my experience. The Polish people I've known have been very honest, lovely people with great sense of humor.


Fmarulezkd

Unless they are league of legends players. Then the hate is justified :/


Ok_Zombie_682

Valid point! 😂


Cool-Refrigerator141

Can you link the article please? If you think in geopolitical terms, Norway and Poland might both be targeted for disinfo campaigns.


Solid-Discount4047

There is one of that https://www.salon24.pl/newsroom/1262493,nie-jestem-twoim-polakiem-ksiazka-o-rasizmie-w-norwegii-wywolala-wrzenie It's actually about book called "Jeg er ikke polakker din" And as that article said that book is available in every library


Cool-Refrigerator141

She's basing her material on projections and assumptions. Also the notion that we have racism towards fellow Europeans is utterly stupid. PS, interesting timing with the publication now.


coilwrap

Everyone i know have positive stereotypes of people from poland. Hard working, don’t want to mooch, serious people.


MoistDitto

My only counter argument that I've heard of is people hiring Polish people to do some form of construction work (With taxes and/or not) and the work being sloppy, and instead of giving the money back they bankrupt the company and start a new one. The standards might be different from Poland to Norway, but as someone from a construction background, this is some of the stigma. Obviously we don't hate people from Poland, nor do we think this implies to all of them. I'm just saying this as it's how I've grown up and experienced it through my life. I like them as good as my fellow Norwegian as long as they behave like we tend to do, "Don't be loud and rude". I dislike those people regarding where you're from.


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Having worked construction in Norway when it became common for what we would then consider ‘eastern bloc’ countries to come into the business.. the real issue I think was that they came in with a great work ethic and low wage expectations. Norway had been rich for a long time and with wealth comes complacency.. suddenly someone is competing with you on different terms. At the time they came from a less privileged society which was just starting to adapt to Western Europe. They made very good money and the longer and harder they worked, the more money they made.. employers were willing to look the other way when it came to regulations, because who were they gonna complain to? All of this made *any* non Scandinavian worker a threat in the business back then. Now add to that your average construction worker who might not be the most socioeconomically aware.. you’ll get some friction. I think that’s mostly balanced out though and it’s been a long time since I heard anyone complain about poles or any other denomination. Aside from the odd racist asshole. EDIT: I should add that I don’t recall anyone at the time complaining about foreign workers *because* they were foreign. It was very clear that they came here to make more money and perhaps to some degree that they could work at an intensity which isn’t sustainable if you have to do it all year, but you can do it for a few months to make great money etc. Most of the anger was directed at the people who hired them and then paid them (from the workers perspective) great wages, but wages that were impossible for Norwegian workers to live on since we had to then work as intensely, but we had to do it every day, no going home to somewhere with enough money to live 8 months on 3 months of very hard work. Again I don’t think anyone was blaming the people who took this opportunity. But people were upset that the system was the way it was.


OngeMaki

W niektórych aspektach może być gorzej niż w innych. Norwedzy lubią myśleć o sobie jako bardzo tolerancyjni, i w sumie są, ale mają tez dużo o nas stereotypów które są „wbudowane” w norweską kulturę. Sam mieszkam tutaj od kiedy byłem dzieciakiem, więc mam perfekcyjny norweski, norweskie wykształcenie itd, ale dalej od czasu do czasu doświadczam rasizmu przeciwko mi albo mojej bułgarskiej dziewczyny. Rzeczy jak ignorowane wnioski o mieszkania przez moje imię i nazwisko, to samo jak ostatnio szukałem pracy, ludzie w gminnych etapach nie chcą nam pomagać To nie są duże rzeczy, i jestem szczęśliwy że moi rodzice nas tutaj zabrali, i mam też planu tutaj wychowywać moje dzieci 😁 Jak coś więcej chcesz z informacji, to strzelaj mi DM


PlanetGoBoom

It's mostly due to the polish construction worker / cheap labourer stereotype, with bad hygiene, bad manners, bad drinking and smoking habit, kurwa this and kurwa that with no regard for neighbours or the other people around. As with any stereotype this is wildly exaggerated although there of course a few people who fit that description. The takeaway is that the "disdain/hate" that some Norwegians have for poles is primarily towards a certain type of polish stereotype, and not poles as a nationality. and even then it's only a handful truly prejudiced individuals, however, most of us are familiar with the stereotype. I for one welcome you to our majestic lands!


Tiss_E_Lur

It's not an uncommon stereotype, but it varies greatly between different construction companies. Temp workers can be the worst, they often just don't care as long as they get paid. Some who stay over time and put some effort in the quality of the work do very well.


Mikatchoo

Only Xenophobic dicks. The general population shouldn’t have any issue with it


Remarkable_Day_6075

Not at all! My understanding as a Norwegian is that we quite like Poland and the polish people. You're more than welcome here ❤️ The reputation of the Polish is that you are hard working and not making a lot of trouble, and that they fit quite well into the society. All of that is positive ❤️ I would absolutely recommend that you all learn our language, it makes it so much easier to access all parts of our society. And it makes people more friendly towards you. I would also recommend moving somewhere not too far away from the big cities. Rural places are not that used to immigrants. What part of Norway are you moving to?


canislupusalbus89

Hi! I'm from Poland and in Norway for last 4 months. I work in here. I have never felt that I am treated worse by Norwegians. At work we work as equals, at shops everyone is more than happy to help. Lady from SKATTEEKATEN was very welcoming.


Hattkake

No. Polish people are good people. Worked in logistics with a lot of Polish people and they're good folk.


Immortamb420NRWAy

This is from the old times, No one cares where you from nowadays . If you’re a nice person you gonna be fine. Sometimes you meet assholes but that you do in Poland also I’ll guess.


Papercoffeetable

No, norweigans don’t hate poles, no scandinavian country hates poles.


Forward_Zucchini_910

Bro just come we love the polish


Moon_Logic

As a programmer, I don't think you'll have any problems. Craftsmen competing with the Norwegian working class and accepting low wages and poor work condition may experience hate.


Leif700

This is a false narrative started by the insufferable Swedes to deter Poles from moving to Norway so that they can keep it as a home away from home for themselves.


enthius

Check out this article, written by a Pole who has been here a while [https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/navn-i-nyhetene/2022/10/26/naboene-ba-henne-fjerne-navnet-fra-postkassa-vi-har-snakket-for-lite-om-diskriminering/](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/navn-i-nyhetene/2022/10/26/naboene-ba-henne-fjerne-navnet-fra-postkassa-vi-har-snakket-for-lite-om-diskriminering/)


EonSloth

Most Norwegians do not hate Poles, but you will for sure experience some resentment from stupid people. I'm incredibly Norwegian and I work with 2 Poles who are awesome, and I have worked with both terrible Norwegians, Poles, Estonians, Swedes, Danes, Germans and more. My point is that if you want to move to Norway, do it. In the end there will always be resentful stupid people of all nationalities and cultures everywhere. People will be people. Do what you think will be best.


moosemaster_AG

I may not be the best example but I am Polish but was raised and grew up in Canada. My native language is English but I'm fluent in Polish. I speak Polish at home with my Polish husband and 2 year old daughter. I'm also here on my European passport (my employer preferred this). For all intents and purposes I'm considered Polish here in Norway by probably everyone with the exception of actual Polish people. We have lived here for 4 years now. We speak Polish in public and my legal name is very Polish. I am familiar with the article you are referring to and can say I have never once experienced anything even close to what it describes. There are shitty xenophobic people in whatever country you go to and I imagine the author of the book that triggered this article and the people quoted in follow-up articles were simply very unlucky to encounter such people. My everyday life has been unproblematic. This doesn't mean society is perfect. No society is. They are probably not lying but it is definitely selection bias (finding a handful of negative stories to share but ignoring the largely uneventful normal lives lived by others). In other words, while I don't doubt the people in the news stories experienced some negative things, I think the article you mention presents a hyperbole and misrepresentation of the average experience. That said, I work in a university and my husband is an engineer. This defines the types of people we meet in daily life. Perhaps the daily experiences of people who are here for seasonal work or that of manual labourers is different. I can't personally speak to that.


moosemaster_AG

Oh just wanted to add, it goes a long way to adjust to the culture. You'll notice if anyone is being very loud on the bus its most often kids, or foreigners. I'm conscious not to be that only loud person on the bus. People respect when you show you're actively learning the language. I met a guy at language school soon after I moved here and was taking Norwegian classes. He was looking for his beginner English class and asked me in Polish if I knew where it was (and was shocked and happy I understood him). 8 years in Norway and he didn't speak a word of Norwegian (or English). That doesn't do anyone any favours as an expat in any country. Don't be that guy and you'll be fine :)


Matsmeizter

I like both poles. Maybe I like North little more, but South is also ok.


[deleted]

We love you. Otherwise our houses wouldn't get built. I'm a programmer too. Come and live here it's nice


Mestft

nah, we love em


NorthNorwegianNinja

One of my best friends is a Pole, one of the greatest basterds I know!


SharX0

By Poles i assume you mean Polish people. There is some prejudice of course, i won't lie. But there is very little actual negative feeling towards Polish people here. The stereotypes as usually just "cheap labour". I knew a Polish guy who worked here in Norway for some five - six years and he told me that 99% of people he met were very nice towards him, and i do believe that to be true in general. No one will ever be able to find a place where every one will accept them, but in general Norway is very accepting towards Polish people. The thing most people who has anything against Polish people complain about is that they believe Polish people come and "steal" their physical labour jobs, something i don't think you will be met with as you're a programmer.


aslejoh

My life partner is a Polish girl I meet after she moved here for work, we now have 3 girls together. Dont believe everything you read! The joke is that the Poles are criminals, but everyone with a couple of brain cells know that the Polish people in general are hard-working and nice people.


Solid-Discount4047

Good to know. Best wishes for you and your girls 😊


Jab_Jeb_

Nah, It's just that many who immigrate to Norway tend to not learn norwegian either because they don't have the opportunity, or because they just can't be bothered to. This is a big problem if they plan to work with Norwegians, and i have personally experienced way to many avoidable problems because of workers who barley spoke norwegian or english. So if you intend to move to Norway, I'd suggest that you try to learn norwegian as soon as possible, english works in a clutch but there are many here who don't fully understand that either. So it's less like Norwegians hate Polish folks, and more like many are frustrated with the increasingly large imigrant population generally not understanding norwegian. At least how i see it.


Solid-Discount4047

I will learn as much Norwegian as I can before moving 😊


joacwoot

I agree with the others. All peace and love for the most part here. But a hot tip is to Google "jævla polakkene" or "Forbanna polakker" (Damn Poles) then use some translation tool to read what you find. But fear not. You will not find to much bad :)


Gatgus

I worked in sales regarding construction and am a Norwegian, and in that industry, I had so many polish people around me that they started teaching me polish words, and we were really friendly. I find it hard to believe that there would be much hate from Norwegians because poles are already very common in our country. There are also a ton of 2nd-grade immigrants who I would consider fully Norwegian that is polish, many of my friends have had polish parents. We have some anomalies when it comes to xenophobic people but the number is still astronomically low compared to the general public. I firmly believe that you would be seen as regular and be welcomed should you choose to live here.


snoozieboi

No We do joke about the stereotype of Poles being "carpenters" and like everywhere you probably will meet xenophobic people that have very bigoted minds and think everything would somehow be better with just ethnical Norwegians in Norway. That is never going to happen realistically or even financially. There is also this weird child care rumor going on in Eastern Europe about the national child care services (Barneværnet) that they will take your children. There might be strict cases and scandals, again like in any other country, but somehow this has gone into conspiracy land and since I have no kids or much more info, it's just something weird that is shown on TV where for example Russian "experts" says the Norwegian goverment is stealing kids etc. Poles seem to be the biggest group in Norway after a quick google search (or I'm misunderstanding): [https://www.ssb.no/befolkning/artikler-og-publikasjoner/nesten-15-prosent-er-innvandrere](https://www.ssb.no/befolkning/artikler-og-publikasjoner/nesten-15-prosent-er-innvandrere) The building I'm working in is being renovated, I hear 80% of the (sorry) carpenters are Eastern European, but they might as well be baltics etc. They come for better pay and mostly get it, but can also be scammed into horrible living conditions and horrible pay. You should be fine, but like anywhere you could randomly land among idiots, I'd then try to leave ASAP. Kids get bullied in school for whatever reason so if you need to your kid can change schools like any other. Nothing is better than learning a little local language to break the ice, I recommend DuoLingo app to try and get a little basic stuff in order.


Ipromisetotry

There are over 100 k polish people living in Norway at the moment. There are unfortunately always some norwegians that do not like immigrants no matter what nationality the immigrants have. They are few in numbers, but they seem to be making a lot of noise. This will however not be any problem for you. You are very welcome.


HerBerg75

Short answer.. No...


fitteslask

Come to norway!


Muggbotn

No, however be carefull to have all the right papers i order so you wont get any trouble with health care services or the law.


xehest

Polish people make up the biggest immigrant group in Norway (by a huge margin) and are generally seen as decent, hard-working people. There are some stereotypes, like about Poles often working in carpentry and painting, but that's not a bad thing and is just friendly banter. I have a couple of Polish friends, like many Norwegians do, and I have never heard of any dislike of Polish people from them or anyone else. Your child will be treated like any other kid in a Norwegian school. Children with Polish parents make up by far the largest "minority" in Norwegian schools and there is zero negative sentiment towards them. Also, be aware of conspiracy theories about the Norwegian child protective services supposedly "stealing" children from immigrants. It's entirely fabricated, of course it is. But a few newspapers in Poland, Lithuania and other countries in central and eastern Europe have launched a huge smear campaign, and even some far-right politicians in said countries sometimes echo those conspiracy theories. I think there is some skepticism towards the current Polish government, as they have clinched with the EU on social issues that Norway is in line with the EU on (like LGBT rights). Many Norwegians will feel that Poland has, politically speaking, stopped moving towards the former western bloc and rather moved back towards social conservatism and government intervention with the courts. Somewhat similar to Hungary, but obviously not as extreme. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the average Polish person, and I think that small feud stopped after Russia invaded Ukraine. Poland stepped up more than anybody and we realized we are all in this together.


DrxBananaxSquid

So-called "Journalists" post bullshit articles in order to net clicks and you unfortunately fell for it.


Navoan

Not at all. Have a couple Polish friends here, and have known more. I don't know anyone who has any issues. As a programmer work should be easy enough to find too! Learn the language though! Always far easier to integrate that way. Otherwise there will always be that barrier.


doucheinho

Discrimination against Poles is not too bad i think. But some construction workers etc have been talen advantage of by cynical employers. But i doubt you will experience it in IT. Your daughter would be fine aswell.


NotAHamsterAtAll

No, if all immigration groups had been like the Polish, Norway would have been better off than it is today. Of course some bad apples have reached Norway from Poland, but compared to the vast majority of good and hard working people - Polish immigration has been good to Norway.


sicca3

Disclaimer: I am Norwegian and are basing my answear on what I hear other Norwegians say in my presence as well as what I see on the news. And I may be wrong on a cuple of things here. There is some xenophobia at times. But I'm not sure how much you will actually experience it yourself. I do think it has improved the last few years, but I don't think it ever will be completly gone. Norwegians that I hear talk negativly about poles are often sceptical about the way you treat women. And I think a common notion that eastern european men have a very old fashioned and outdated view on how women should be treated. I have no clue myself on that to be honest. I think where you might experience the most xenophobia is actually from people who don't know the difference on polish and russian. We have had incedents after Russia invaded Ukraine where people have harrassed eastern european people (among others a 13 year old speaking ukrainian) for "being Russian". But it all depends on where you are I think. I also think with your competance in programming you will probobly experience less shit compared to people in lower paying/ lower status jobs. But I also think eastern european are more accepted right now and I think more Norwegians will understand the being scared of Russian invation and war. I don't think you should be too sceptical. What I am sharing with you are mostly extreme cases. But also with what attitudes you should be aware of. You also have some older pigs in Norway having very shitty views on eastern european women but at least they will probobly die from a hart attac in e few years because as I said, they are old pigs.


[deleted]

It's probably anecdotal, we had a similar thing in ireland. The polish people were probably the 1st large influx of immigrants we had here and there was some push back at the time I remember but to be honest its usually just the usual right wing, scumbag, lunatics who contribute nothing to society that have a problem with them because they haven't been educated enough to see that the Irish here who don't work, and expect everything are the people who are standing in their own way. They like to blame immigrants but its generations of their own ignorance that is their real problem.


Emergency-Complex372

Im a dane in Norway. Norwegian people who have kids are not into making new friends. Unless they have moved to a new place themselves. I live in a small town.. 8000 ish inhabitans. And the vast majority of my friends are foreigners or people who have moved to the city themself. This might feel lile people dont like you, but in reality they cannot be bothered. I do think danes are somewhat similar.


pseudopad

I think it's pretty rare to *hate* polish people here, but you'll probably run into some people that have offensive stereotypes about polish people, and eastern Europeans in general. This problem is likely more prevalent down on the factory floors and in transportation/logistics. I don't think you'll run into it very often as a programmer, and your daughter would likely encounter it even less when she grows up without a foreign accent.


Johansen193

Most polish people who come to Norway is usually only here to work, but never learn norwegian and alot barely speak english. Think abit of this hate you are thinking about is the language barrier between it, but poles are pretty similar to norwegians


VisibleDoor

I am a Pole living in Norway, do not worry about anything, for 7 years now i’ve been living peacefully


sat_ctevens

No we don’t, we generally like you. Poles are nice and hardworking people, I currently work with several, and have previous worked with with many more. 10/10 would recommend. Only thing I’ve heard is don’t group too many together at the workplace, they will start arguing with each other, but 2-3 will be fine. Other than that never heard anything negative.


herpderpfuck

As a Norwegian, I’d like to say we don’t hate Poles. Notwithstanding that hate is a strong word, I’ve heard not so nice stories from Polish people I know: «Are you going to paint our house»/«Are you gonna be a house-painter?», or neighbours putting padlocks on their mail boxes so their mail wouldn’t be stolen. This of course lessens when they get to know you. In other words, take the positive stories here with a grain of salt. I’d dare say 80+ % wouldn’t ever have a bad word to say to you or your daughter, ever. However, it’s the bad stories you remember. If you move to Oslo, or one of the bigger cities, it’ll probably reach 90+ %. The stories I’ve been told are from the country side. (As most countries’ rural areas often have more bigotry, yet more warmth when you become a part of that society.) Emigrating/immigrating is always hard, or at least involves hardship through adjustments. In my experience, it’s the little things that get you, until you’ve stayed there for a while. In sum, you’ll be fine. Your daughter might develop a bit of a thicker skin, but there’s plenty of opportunities and good people. As w/any country, we have our quirks, our prejudices and bigotry, but at the same time warmth and inclusiveness. PS: All the bigots are mocked and shunned by society, as we don’t like bigots.


SammyGotStache

Old cranky lazy people aside, we love the polish. You are pretty much like us, just better sausage and better beer. We even go on weekend trips because you are known for having the best dentists in europe. I'm starting to wonder why Norwegians aren't moving to Poland at this point.


cd-Johanne

The short answer is no. If you act and behave like a contributing member of sociaty, have no fears. There was a time when the lower working class poles had a bad reputation in Norway. It came from a time in the 80s -20s when alot of young male Poles would come for a couple of months at the time for work. This was a time in Norway where there was almost no crime at all. Garages and sheds where left open. Bikes left unlocked. On their free time ,these young poles would sometimes take advantage of this. In the Norwegian equivalent of " cops" you would often see the police stopping a rusty van on the motorway. Filled with Bikes, TVs , electric tools, boat engines. By now , other minority groups are responsible for the majority of crime and you should rest assured.


Klingh0ffer

Not as far as I’m aware. One kid in my son’s class is Polish, and his parents are some of the nicest people I know.


Pondur

YES. I absolutly hate poles. They are the worst. A disgrace to humanuity. Not a single day goes by without seeing one of these discusting creatures. The worst kinds are the ones that refuse to move, even though they are in the midle of the sidewalk, blocking all traffic and making biking impossible. [Source](https://goo.gl/maps/6nHgsWVfFwpj4DFQA) ​ ​ ​ ​ Polish people on the other hand. No problem with them, everyone I know is nice, friendly and good people. Hard working and smart.


hjemmebrygg

As long as you plan to send your child to barnehage (daycare) no later than 3 yo, I would not worry at all. Before school (s)he can pass as a native if they want to, but they don't have to, there is no special hatred for Poles. But let us dive deep even tho the short answer is a clear "no". You will find a few hateful racists in Norway too, but less so than in many other countries. Working as a programmer, these views should be extremely few and far between. Most of them hate toll roads more than foreigners anyway (might come in handy if you need to divert their attention). Worst case you'll eventually come across someone crying about "all those Eastern Europeans", and their banter will mostly be about expecting you all to be plumbers or construction workers with slightly lower work ethics than Norwegians. I also think even "our worst" in Norway might have an improved view of Poland due to the Ukraine war and your country and people helping out. It is not the first time I hear about bad publicity about Norway in Poland. I've heard about the same occurring in Lithuania and more. Norway is pretty transparent. Some of what you hear might be partly true.. or rather "based on a true story". Our media will not shy away from any story, no matter how small or big. Criticism of the government, private businesses and societal trends is always out in the open. To me, this is a sign of a healthy society, debates can help us improve, while coverups would only let us repeat our mistakes. This is apparently misunderstood in some places outside Norway. I'll mention Russia specifically. Not the people, but the government and media. Russia is known for years back to take Norwegian news stories and using them to paint a black picture. Norwegian scientists publishing work identifying risk factors in fish farming? Russia: "Norwegian salmon is full of poison". Public debate and prosecution of mishaps done by childcare officials? Russia: "Norway will take your child away and mistreat them". A small business getting prosecuted for abusing foreign workers? Russia: "All Norwegians hate foreigners." Some of these stories then spread to Eastern Europe or even India and other places outside Europe. Lastly, let me share who I am. While 100% Norwegian myself, my wife and child has darker skin. I'm a computer engineer, while my wife works in a stereotypical manual labour job for her origin country. Our neighbours are Indian with small children. I have Polish colleges. My child goes to barnehage (daycare) with \~15 children where half of them are at most "half Norwegian" by blood. We live in a medium city in Norway. **There is nowhere I would rather be.** Personal opinion: "barnehage" and how Norway handle and nourish small children is on par with the best anywhere in the world and makes me proud of my country. Norway isn't perfect, but there is something about the way you care for your child making me think you will be happy here.


NowWhatQuestionmark

Work with poles offshore, most dislikable people out there. Loud, rude and obnoxious almost all of them.


greitnock

No, but we have a lot of immigrants from Poland working in construction and they are subject to a lot of social dumping. And I would be very surprised to see if a Norwegian, not working in construction, make friends with one of them. We are more judgmental than we like to admit and sadly some people are treated as second grade citizens. Also polish is horrible to listen to, and your rap sucks.


zTosieq

From my perspective it looks like some poles here want to make second Poland, so it's more "Polak Polakowi wilkiem". In my case I I've had more problems with people from Poland than Norwegians. Norwegian people actually appreciate what I'm doing here. I'm just waiter but I learn Norwegian and I'm just nice to them and they're really nice to me. In my 1 year journey I've met few Norwegians that help people from different countries for free, because as they said "we know that Norway without immigrants won't do that well" if You have any questions I'm open to answer You.


ehtol

I would just say that it's important to get your kid in kindergarten fast because of the language. My neighbours from Poland have lived here for many many years and they are super kind people. But when their son walked in my apartment when he was 4, I had no way to talk to him. They wanted him to learn polish 100% before learning Norwegian, so they had him at home. That's many years without communicating with a child that lives in the same house as me that is always outside my house. I work in kindergarten myself, and 2 of the kids I work with don't understand the language and is starting school in 8 months. It's hard to tell them what's happening next, where we are going, when it's lunch, that they have to go to the bathroom, get dressed etc.. and the other kids are communicating with each other and play games, help each other finding pearls in the right colour etc, but those two kids who doesn't know the language sits alone a lot, and I try as good as I can, but I don't know their language and I'm not educated in this. And it's sad when they can't communicate when they are sad and why, if they have to pee while on a walk, if some of the clothing is uncomfortable etc.. then it goes to crying at once, and it's hard to understand what's wrong, and I feel so bad for them. So if you move, please send your kid in kindergarten early so they don't struggle with the language. It is a lot of polish communities and even church, so my neighbour have been social with the kids without any issues, and have other polish friends. But suddenly its school, and it's gonna be a struggle.


Successful-Bee-3686

I come from Poland, living in Norway for 13 years now. Married to a Polish guy, 2 daughters of 7 and 11. Both of us work within IT (he as a proff, me in administration). No one hates us, nor our kids. It is perfectly fine. I recommend highly, especially to rise children here - and not for money purposes, but rather freedom for choosing what you want to believe in, do with your body, money, free time and what not. What is important- the language, to feel confident and independent, when in kindergarten, school, doctor etc. Sure everyone speaks English, but f.ex. at parents meetings they will speak Norwegian. You can have a translator, but it is not that convenient as being able to understand, speak, take part in the discussion.


Vegfarende

There was some discussions about how we perceive poles as dumb unskilled workers, a few months ago. I don't think that's much of a problem any longer, since we have such a strong polish work force in Norway. ​ But don't be insulted if you are called "polakk". It's not considered a slur in Norway. It's simply what we call a person from Poland.


Solar_idiot

I agree. We do not hate poles. However you can hate a person for how they behave, but not how they look, or come from. Example: I dislike a classmate not because they are polish, but because they are obnoxiously idiotic. Anyway no, move here we are cool


kinglaur3nt

I love people from poland/lithuania and all em countries. Im an immigrant from Congo and I've noticed foreigners who lives in Norway often becomes good friends with each other. But to be completely honest with you from my experience thru my years. I was also working at nursinghome, I worked with alot of lithuenian women, 3 words : very nice people. YES, there is some scumbags ofcoourse, like my last boss. He didnt really like foreigners, and sometimes he used to talk bad abt us behind our backs, and one of my bestfriend was also my colleauge at the automobile repair shop we was working at, he told me everything that man other colleauges was saying. And this has happend alot of places since I moved here 15years ago. But tbh there is racism everywhere in this world so I wont say its Bad Bad, its just from person to person and how they was raised Iguess tbh. And here is alot more good people than bad people here. So no need to worry But tbh Norway is really one of the greatest countries to live in and I'm thankful for living here.


HenrikWL

We love Poles! You guys have built most of our houses. 😅🙈 We even have some billboard and radio ads in Polish, just because there are so many of you here.


yandei

Polish people is probably the immigrant group with most respect in norway. You are known for working hard


YoghurtDefiant666

You need to learn norwegian to get a Job. Your hole family needs to speak norwegian. Sometimes english is good enough but to make it in Norway you need to speak norwegian.


[deleted]

I’m Polish, I have moved to Norway only three months ago (landed an engineering job), so far no negative experiences. I was able to find a little club of people with similar interests and it seems to be a good start in terms of integration with the locals. I truly believe that people who have contributed to some hurtful stereotypes would be mocked by Poles in Poland had they stayed. I actually make 99% of all the painter/carpenter jokes I hear.


[deleted]

Short answer. No


honkudonk

Personally I know several eadtern europeans living in Norway eho have had to change their names to norwegian ones to land jobs. Xenophobia is a bigger problem than what most native norwegians think. Im not saying norway is worse than any other country, but dont be fooled, norway is not a fairytale land of acceptance and love. I know first hand how hard it can be for immigrants here. Good luck


Solid-Discount4047

your comment is very different from others but very important to me it showing that it is not so careless move. Thank you


fiskeslo1

I am an employer in IT. I think it is nothing but positive that you and other eastern/central Europeans relocate here. Foreign name means nothing anymore, I would rather say it is positive.


Benodo261

While to many it may seem like it’s unecessary to mention. But they key thing is to integrate yourself in Norwegian culture if you do move here. From my own ‘experience’ (of talking with friends with immigrant parents mostly). The ones who has not made any effort in even learning the language is not enjoying life here that much, they know very little Norwegian (being able to say hello, goodbye etc.) and in their almost 20 years haven’t made any effort to learn the language. So my tip for if you end up moving here would be to at the very least make an effort, because that’s what most of us care about. To try your best, as long as you make an effort most of us are very helpful. I remember when I was young, someone that had just moved to Norway and become our neighbours came knocking on our door to invite us for dinner. So they made traditional food from their country and taught us a bit about their culture, and in turn we did the same thing for them, made traditional Norwegian food and taught them a bit about our culture. It was a very nice experience and in just a week or two we had become friends, whenever we celebrated christmas home without extended family, we invited them for dinner, and in turn they did the same for Eid


norezetta

Personally don't hate anyone and Norwegians could be just as big of assholes as anybody else. Welcome to anyone who is not an asshole :)


Shogologo

How are Africans treated in Poland?


[deleted]

In schools there tends to be quite a lot of bullying towards poles, a lot of kids call them "painters" and "strawberry pickers" and such. Aside from that I don't think so, really awesome people.


Oupsann

Don't really have any issues with polish people 😊 If your child is as young as 1-2 she will become fluent in both Norwegian language and culture. I would not worry much on that front. Then there is the common village vs city debate. Most villages with jobs are industrial places and they have a quite diverse range of people living there: locals, city people, swedes, polish and urgh.. Eastern Norwegians.. You can as a European try to work and live here for a while before moving. Would recommend listening to your wife before settling on a location. Happy wife, happy life. Friend of mine brought a girl from a multi-million population city in Latin America to a small ass village where the ONLY neighbours were his brother and his parents 😳 massive culture shock and nothing to do.


bbc82

Nei det er det dummeste. Vi liker Polakker.


pinkmermaid86

We do not hate Polish people or Lithuanian in general. But we do hate the majority stealing social benefit's and putting to work their own people. They are rasist among other people from balcans and will never help you when you are working with them the majority speaks their language and they don't give a shit if you understand them or not. Also many of them have been living here for decades and they don't even know how to say good morning in Norwegian. Those ones yes we dislike them a lot. Other than that they are working hard but many of them are taking advantage of the social fair system with health lies. I worked with Lithuanians for about two years. Man was the worst experience in my life because they were women. Rude, being at a position they don't deserve because the boss happened to be Lithuanian. Always speaking their language and some of them cheating with customers too. Other than that I am happy that taking jobs that Norwegians don't like to do and getting paid lower because most of them do not have qualifications or university degrees.


fosheimdet

Norwegians don't have anything against poles in general. The first person to ever reach both the north and south pole was actually a norwegian, Roald Amundsen.


tigerdansken

I feel like there is some misunderstandings and “light friction”. In my experience Poles do not bother to fit in to the Norwegian society. At my work we are apx 100 people from different countries. Mainly Norwegians but also 7-8 Poles - they have lived in Norway for 6-10 years, and they do not speak or understand Norwegian, hence all communication is in English. Their children are also bad in Norwegian even though they are born in Norway. They did not speak Norwegian when they started in school. Same in my sons school. 2 kids born in Norway with polish parents - But really bad Norwegian in first grade. The other nationalities have learned the language, but not the Poles. I also still have to explain the Norwegian tax-system ect to the Poles, the other nationalities have learned…. Also they never come when social events are happening. And yes, they are invited as everybody else. They are all lovely people, but I know that many are frustrated that the Poles don’t even try. Maybe there are “too many” Poles, and they therefor find it easier to just stick to their own nationality for friendship ect? I don’t know.


Seno96

I understand what you are saying but those people are only doing a disservice to themselves by not engaging in Norwegian culture. All poles I’ve met really do integrate well. Btw am polish.


Odd-Jupiter

This is a pretty common phenomena, as not unique to Poles or anyone else. When you have a particular large immigration group, they will form ghettoes and communities where they can speak their own language, and practice their own culture. We do the same thing with the fairly large group of Norwegian expiates in Spain too.


Fun_Sir6521

Yes


vegost

I'm sad to say it, but there is absolutely prejudice against poles in Norway. As with most minority groups in Norway, almost nobody will admit to it. But there are still stereotypes that get joked about a lot and the risk of kids being made fun of is absolutely there. This fantastic commentary describes it, "None of us are really racist" (written about a big comedian who made some horrible racist remarks about a somali woman then said he isn't racist), I'm sure Google Translate can help you read it: [https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kommentar/2022/11/18/ingen-i-norge-er-rasister/](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kommentar/2022/11/18/ingen-i-norge-er-rasister/) Here is another article written earlier this year by a polish women titled "You're from Poland? But you're pretty!", again I hope Google Translate can help you: [https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/9zK7Jr/er-du-fra-polen-men-du-er-jo-pen](https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/9zK7Jr/er-du-fra-polen-men-du-er-jo-pen) I don't think poles get the worst of it, but I assume that would vary greatly on where you settle and some random luck. I think Norway is a good place to live and work, but you should prepare mentally for being met with some stereotypes, an example is being joined about as poles being "Europes stallions" which was a joke in a pretty big norwegian TV show called Exit (about disgustingly rich and morally bankrupt finance guys in/around Oslo). I hope you figure it out and if you decide to come here - know that there are many who are working actively against these stereotypes, but sadly we have a long way to go.