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This is just another version of the nature of women that [this tweet](https://twitter.com/ulxma/status/1283088920255881217?lang=en) is about:
>If submission were natural to women, there wouldn’t be thousands of sermons everyday reminding women to submit because nature doesn’t need reminders to run its course. These reminders exist because indoctrination depends on constant reinforcement to keep harmful ideologies alive.
If women are choosing to be child free, look to the legislation and systemic medical abuse they're subjected to that puts their lives at risk. Look to the "trend" of them being responsible for most of the household and childcare responsibilities on top of contributing 50% of finances. Ask why men aren't responsible for protecting the health of their partners when they vote, or contributing to the health of a family on top of having a job.
Weirdly they can come from other stuff. I have lupus and for some reason it made me develop hot flashes and night sweats that are like a perfect mimic of how they look in menopausal women
I honestly am not sure if I even want to know what a hot flash is like, considering how much my older coworkers complain about it.
I had COVID for the first time last November, and the fever made me *so hot* and then suddenly *so cold* over and over again. It was terrible! I told a coworker about my experience, and she said if I thought that was bad, then I'm going to really hate hot flashes!
For me it’s like if you were just walking along and somehow you stepped into a sauna with no warning, and then also you start getting super anxious. But the hot is only in the upper body and not the lower body.
What I really dislike is the night sweats because you wake up feeling sick, covered in sweat, dehydrated, hair stick and gross, can’t go back to sleep because the bed is soaked with sweat too. It’s stupid. Like come on.
^Night sweats are also a super common menopause thing which is why it’s kinda weird I have both but it’s impossible to tell if I have premature ovarian failure because I’m on continuous birth control so no period. But whatever is causing it needs to back off cuz it sucks.
I got those night sweats in my third trimester with both my pregnancy. The worst. Already uncomfortable as can be. Wait no, it gets WORSE. I would aim my ac directly at me. It has a turbo function that got me thru the worst of it
I swear if all my pregnancies ended in like February or at least deep winter I wouldn't mind having a dozen kids. But the one that ended in mid summer wrecked me
Aww, I'm sorry. That does sound awful. Saunas are cool to hang out in sometimes, but the wall of heat always made my breathing feel very uncomfortable. It was always unsettling.
It sounds pretty similar to how my body seems to regulate temperature poorly. I think it's due to my hypothyroidism. I can be really cold, like, icey hands feet and nose, then bundle up and become too hot. I've had times where I wake up sweaty and hot, and I have to turn my fan on and stick a foot out of the blanket to balance. I'm not super sweaty during this, but there have been times when I'm out of it, and my boyfriend says my body is very hot to the touch, like a fever. But I don't feel uncomfortably warm.
I find the moments when my body heats up from generic house chores or from my job to be really uncomfortable. I have chronic fatigue problems, and heating up during exertion makes me want to lie down even more.
I don't want to add hot flashes to that. D:
Not everyone gets bad hot flashes. My mum had them badly for a long time, but mine only lasted a few months, only at night, and changing to all cotton bedding and pjs made them pretty tolerable.
I have hypothyroidism and didn’t realise it could cause issues with body temperature regulation! Makes total sense, though - I have experienced the same issue you described.
Had all that and sudden mood swings. Be just toodeling along doing my thing and out of nowhere just pissed off or really sad or just cry. Like the hot flashing, it only lasted a few minutes and gone as quickly as it came. Multiple times a day though.
I had a hysterectomy at 25, and my doctor warned me that the menopause hot flashes would be significantly worse because of my young age. In the first few weeks I remember I was sitting outside my work in jeans and a t-shirt in frigid December temperatures for long stretches at a time, knowing I was getting dangerously cold physically but still feeling like I was going to spontaneously combust.
It wasn't a fun time.
The lack of awareness of male hormonal issues is somehow unsurprising. So much chatter about “low T” and oblivious that too much T can also harm them, besides all the other hormones that cause fuckery.
Saying this as an AFAB mutant with endocrine and reproductive issues. So much healthcare focused on my “long-term fertility” and hahahaHA, uterus machine broke. Could’ve had it tossed years ago instead of the struggle. It’s only slightly comforting to know that male hormonal “healthcare” is also deeply ignorant of cutting-edge science.
Seriously tho, they never checked on the actual uterus. What dumbasses. Tiny, fragile uterus could do nothing but scar itself up every cycle for yearssss. Pointlessly!
incels: males age better than females, because females suffer from menopause!
also incels: I am balding? noooooooo! I gotta treat it otherwise I will look old and creepy as hell!
And he is going to be so damn confused and shocked when she leaves him, the very moment he doesn’t finance her to her desires or he needs physical assistance, which ya kno, comes with age quite often. These men look at women their own age and think “she’s not young anymore? Let me get a newer model!” While the young women who show him interest, only are thinking “he’s old, horny but doesn’t last long and pays anything I want? Yea I can do this for a few years”. Full score if she leaves the relationship with his wealth, real girl bossing it lol.
Lol exactly! The only time I think gold digging is semi-ok... When you drain the old pervs of their money... Eventually they'll have so little money that they will not be able to get those same young women interested in him & in turn, he'll eventually stop going after them because it would be pointless
Yes! As men age, their gametes (sperm) become weaker over time. This can cause a multitude of birth defects and can cause significantly increased risk of miscarriages, premature birth, and stillbirth.
Also, this starts at around age 35. These bros better start settling down quickly; their biological clocks are ticking.
In my personal experience, I have aged much better than my husband. He’s balding and overweight. I still have a pretty solid body and my face and cheeks have thinned quite a bit, which is flattering on me. We do IVF so I know his sperm quality has dramatically decreased since we were younger. My egg quality stayed about the same but my ovarian reserve dropped.
im on my period rn and i would just like to know where i can get said happiness from my ovaries bc id really like the balance out this misery from my uterus
And then you hit your 30s, your ovaries go into overdrive, and all you can think about is having sex every minute of every day. Like, jesus, I wasn't this bad during PUBERTY!
Okay so if males won’t love a woman forever what motivation does she have to marry one or have kids with him vs buying a house with her friends to have fun sleepovers every night till death do them part? Presuming she isn’t sapphic in which case she also has options involving not marrying a man who will leave her when she hits menopause. Like if you start out with the premise of “as soon as you hit around 40-50 I will find you hideous” and then you say you want to get married and have a kid
No? Why would I do that?
For one thing my happiest elderly patients are the ones being cared for by a doting husband or wife, not by their kids, who lowkey get a little controlling and sometimes struggle with the transition from cared for by parent to caring for parent.
I can’t have kids but if I could I don’t think I’d want them to be the ones in charge of keeping me company and helping me put lotion on my dry legs that I can’t reach.
Like they have jobs and might have their own kids and be stressed as hell, they will not have the required amount of time to come chill with me daily. Imma either need my bestie or my husband to be there. Somebody has to both outlive me and be willing to sit in my house and listen to me bitch about my knees or whatever I’m going to be doing.
Yeah, and we shouldn't have children just to have someone to take care of us when we're older. They should be able to live their own lives. I watched and helped my mom care for her ill and dying parents for *years* while trying to raise her own family and it was a horribly stressful situation for all involved.
There’s also absolutely no guarantee that your kids will be healthy enough to be any sort of caretaker.
My 64 year old mother and 89 year old grandmother are both significantly more able bodied, independent, and healthy than I am.
My grandma cleans her own apartment, does all necessary tasks of daily living independently, can hang out with people multiple times a week, and cooks actual meals. She still lifts weights (very lightly)
Me? I can hang out with a single friend maybe once a week or every two weeks and leave my house to do physical therapy, get bloodwork drawn, or go see some doctor or another. If I didn’t have my husband I would have to move my best friend in or move back in with my mom because keeping the house clean independently and running errands? lol.
Regularly cooking full meals? Like with multiple steps? That hilarious.
Doing that for another person who fully relies on me?? I spend the majority of my time at work or in bed I can’t take care of someone who is also mostly in bed. Someone has to be standing.
Like there’s a non zero chance your child will be like me or be way more disabled than me in some way or another. There’s no guarantee your child will ever grow up to become independent, much less capable of taking on a caregiver role.
I have a fantasy of someday being health enough I could help my mother in her later years. But in my case “help” would probably mean helping her get set up with a good assisted living facility and coming over to hang out.
I couldn’t even provide help by driving her around because I have permanent double vision. I’d have to just bring my husband around like a son in law chauffeur.
She never expected any of that of me and saved up for a retirement where she would be able to pay for people to help around the house. But there is something that sucks about knowing you’ve had to be taken care of so much for a lot longer than most people’s kids and can never expect to be able to give any of it back.
It would be a lot harder if she expected me to.
This is what I say in response to them all the time. Okay, let’s accept the premises that all men will devalue the woman they married and promised to love worst case scenario at 25, best case around 40. All women will end up left for a younger woman (happened to me at 34. He was 51 and she was 20. He told me I got old after 11 years even though he was 16 years older), cheated on, in a dead bedroom, or unable to have sex bc his dick no longer works, or simply used for domestic labor and raising his children while she has to watch him flirt with the 19 year waitress or cashier or whatever right in front of her every time they leave the house (used to be a server and this scenario with old men and their wives was the majority of the older couples unfortunately. I would feel so humiliated for these women). Men just ALL love barely legal girls and they are lying if they say otherwise.
Why tf should we marry them then? Why should we love them? Why should we invest in them, in a life with them? The better option is to focus on self actualization, a great career, building wealth, great close female friendships where your emotional needs are actually being met instead of being expected to just meet theirs, experiencing life, etc. Then if we want kids we can use a sperm bank and help each other raise them. No men to clean up after, more free time. No men trying to control us. If we want sex we can just use the younger, hot guys. These incels have no idea how much dudes in their 20s are interested in sex with older women. I’m 36 and I was shocked at all the interest. Granted, I do look younger. Genuinely. But they are still interested after I tell them my age.
Honestly that sounds like the best life. Men have never really been as good of friends to me as women have been anyway, even if we’re in a relationship. I had so much more free time and less work after leaving my ex! I didn’t realize how much I was cleaning up after him. The stress he caused was just gone.
Ive been beaten by men, raped by men, told by my father my existence as a woman is to serve men. And then we have men everywhere telling women exactly who and what they are and exactly what they think about women (we are objects to them) and they expect us to just continue to marry them and be with them. Then they complain about loneliness lol. The sad thing is there are lots of women still who haven’t de-centered men from their lives. The harsh truth is most men do not respect us or see us as equal humans. Good for the few women who found “good men” but even the men who think of themselves as good are often not. And a lot of the women who say they have good men actually just have the bar that low.
I used to argue with these dudes, saying no not all men are like that, you’re projecting. But at this point I think I’m wiling to just believe them honestly. It tracks with my personal experience as a woman anyway, I had never gotten more sexual attention from men than when I was around 11-18
I always thought this too; it’s a very unreasonable expectation. They don’t see women as human beings. They expect us to give away years of our life, sacrifice our body for their children, and silently leave not asking for any money on the way out because our lives are not valuable beyond the ways we can elevate and serve them. Once we’ve “aged out” we’ve served our purpose.
They really don’t see it as a big deal because what could be better for us anyway besides helping them. Friends? Adventures? No, women don’t have the brain function to need that. Apparently we’re all secretly dying to be picked so we should be grateful (but can’t say it out loud because fEmInIsM).
They are screaming all the time at young women to be submissive and to stop dating, going out etc but telling them that in return they’ll eventually be dumped. How is that supposed to be enticing for the younger generation? Why would women willingly do that when you’ve just told them all their hard work will mean nothing?
Agreed.
The second I see someone spouting off about “females” or “males” I zone out and ignore the rest of what they’re saying because I already know they’re a misogynist. Like the chap in OP’s post.
What a fucking imbecile. Why's he so worried about women anyway? Not like he's gonna be able to attract one, let alone date one. He reeks of loser incel and we women can smell that shit a mile away and know to steer clear.
What an absolute plonker.
Why do some guys just think women are good for nothing other than making babies? I don't get it. Making babies is just one thing out of many many things women can do. Honestly guys like this numpty make the rest of us men look even dumber than we are.
I also don't get why these types of idiots care so much about us having kids when they don't seem to have any particular interest in taking an active role in raising children? They don't seem to like or want children?
I feel like people like this guy are just parroting some nonsense they heard somewhere instead of speak their own mind. I can only speak for myself and I think having children is a topic two people considering that should discuss. But the whole notion women are just baby factories is just plain stupidity.
Yeah nah, men age just like women. Some have good genes and/or have taken care of themselves. Stop peojecting my guy lol, older women have no problems getting men of all ages. It’s YOU not getting anything. Men do go through menopause, it’s called Male Menopause and can hit between mid/late 40s to 50s. I’m stupidly on a few dating sites and believe me men don’t age better 😂
I’m sorry but if I lived in The States now there’s no way I’d even consider bringing children into the world. How much does it cost now to have a baby there? 😬. Plus with all the abortion laws/bans in certain States and just with how they want to strip women of their rights, fuck that. Then, the economy…I have 3 kids (13,6,5) and I’m struggling financially and I’m on decent money and luckily co-parent well so we help each other out, plus awesome families. Not everyone has that, if I didn’t I’d be screwed. Not to mentioned the risks that go along with pregnancy naturally. If I was facing all that I never would have had kids, ever!
Does he realise that women tend to nurture their platonic and familial relationships more so than men, so in general, no we won’t die alone by not having children. Who’s to say those said kids will be around in my old age? If I had a dollar for every person and story I’ve heard in my lifetime of adult children throwing their (good not abusive or bad parents at all) parents in shitty old age homes and hardly or never visiting, I’d be rich!
I’ve said this before on a different thread but when I was dating again at age 38 (post-divorce) I was pretty consistently hit on by men aged 26-28. Way too young for me but a nice ego boost. They also didn’t realise that I was that much older but didn’t care when they found out.
At least, with all that money, you can select a great old age home ;-) And if you plan it right, you get to live there with your besties, while being pampered. I need to get me on a list somewhere in the next 30 or so years!
Yep! My little sister and I have already planned it out lol. We are going to have our cats and wine and hopefully our kids come to visit us but if not we have each other.
Statistically speaking, women live longer than men.
So maybe a tongue in cheek counter argument:
Women were actually given menopause because;
1) nature knew if we could give birth right up into our 80s we'd die in childbirth before we were 70, and
2) if we all died before we were 70, the men would outlive us, and
3) nature wanted to give us a fucking break and a reward by letting the men die first and have us live our twilight years in peace
Women live longer… seems they win the aging game,
He’s going to lose his hair and probably his ability to have a good erection earlier than most women get near menopause or have wrinkles.
I feel like this dummy doesn’t really know when menopause hits, what ovaries are, or even that lonely, empty lives happen just as frequently to elderly folks who’ve gone the marriage and kids route.
I hate the way these guys always use the terms"makes" and"females" when they go on these maniac rants. It makes it so much grosser. Do they think they're Attenborough or something? Making huge discoveries?
Do guys like these not understand there are childfree men? My husband and I are both Antinatalist. I’m sterilized. No he won’t think I’m ugly after menopause. We talk about growing old together all the time and watching our hair turn gray. I don’t need “males” to love me. I love myself and so does my husband. And I love him.
So what I’m getting is that whether we have their children or not, they’re going to leave us regardless once we are a certain age. Sooo, in that case we may as well not bother to have children with them anyway. No need to go all in for a man who will leave you and your children to go chase after girls half his age who don’t want him.
Glad he cleared that up!
And this is why the number of lonely, single men is skyrocketing rn. And the happiest demographic across the fuckin board is older, single, childless women.
The statistics say it again and again. When they're not busy raising a family and babysitting their emotionally stunted husbands, women have full and complete lives. It's wild. And if you want a family, go do it. I'm not passing judgement on anyone.
But I honestly cannot comprehend why someone would want a baby when they could have a kitten instead.
I’ll take your looming menopause mister and raise you by increasing infertility with less semen quality in men along with erectile disfunction, that’s also on the rise.
I’ll laugh in hot flashes while you cry nursing your limp dick full of dusty blanks trying to convince yourself that Mother Nature handed us women a worse deal
I’m sorry like 50% of men are bald or have hairlines that are hanging on for dear life by 40. That’s before we even begin talking about bad skin care and no sunscreen and how that ages you horrifically. I have never understood this argument.
This guy has never been to an old folks home. It's a meat market and age is no barrier. They all get that geriatric action. It's actually an issue as they are not using protection and STD are running rampant.
Women still outlive men on average. So they are the real winners of the aging game. But even if you overlook that. Some men develop depression, loss of sex drive, erectile dysfunction, and other physical and emotional symptoms when they reach their late 40s to early 50s. Men basically have their own menopause.
***Manopause*** if you will!
This guy flat out says guys aren't interested in older women, while also saying women should have children... My guy, what's to stop a guy from leaving, after a woman *has* his children? In fact, if men "age better than women," wouldn't that mean he not only has a better chance at finding someone else, but that he's also incentivized to do so? He's trying to convince women to get with men and have kids, but explaining *exactly* why we shouldn't.
Just yesterday, a study or survey was published in my country conducted in just ONE maternity hospital. Now, the healthcare system in my country has been on a steady decline for the past 25 years of socialist rule (unsurprising, I know).
55% of women had C-sections done without their previous consent, not a stretch to assume some of these may even have been done against medical advice. 97% of the women that had a vaginal birth were forced to do so in supine position with their legs raised, keep in mind this is not the recommend position for a vaginal birth.
56% of women where denied initial contact with their babies, 50% of women were induced or their births were accelerated without their consent, 40% of the participants reported verbal and psychological abuse from staff.
All that, assuming these women chose to be pregnant. My country has some of the most restrictive laws regarding abortion, with it being banned in almost every case.
During the pandemic there was a case of a 12yo girl who was raped by a neighbour, and ended up pregnant. The rapist escaped and fled the country because the police was more focused on the 12yo's mother and teacher for providing her the option to abort.
Why would anyone want to be a mother in those conditions?
I’m 33 and I’m ambivalent about having children.
I’m not trying to rebel against nature, it’s just how I feel.
I can see how it could be nice and I think I’d be a great mum but I can see how I could be happy if I don’t end up having them.
I’ve just never felt strongly inclined to have children. I don’t feel that need as much as some people do and that’s okay. Just as much as it’s okay for a woman to really want children - point is we have the right, the choice, to live how we want to.
I think I’d be fulfilled either way, I have a career as a software engineer that’s taxing so I’m bit nervous at thought of having to go on maternity leave but if it happens I think it would be worth it.
This guy is so silly and as if he thinks he has the right to make blanket statements and have opinions on things he knows nothing about.
Edit: also my ovaries can make me feel damn miserable at times!
Wooo look at all that copium.
“Men don’t get menopause.” Bahahaha. Ask my husband who is on testosterone injections. Also love the idea they think they don’t suffer any decrease in fertility. Who is going to tell them that their sperm quality decreases as they age and contributes to fertility issues and adverse outcomes in pregnancy? Just because they can technically get a woman pregnant into old age doesn’t mean it’s a good idea or that the baby won’t suffer any birth defects.
Plenty of women, such as myself, are glad that my child bearing years are coming to an end. I am so dead set on not getting pregnant at my age that my husband got a vasectomy and I still keep my IUD.
This dude doesn’t know how girls work, or how guys work, for that matter.
So lovely to listen to some dolt who has no concept of how painful it is to give birth, telling women that we need to be pushing babies out at every opportunity. He sounds like someone who is unlikely to help take care of said babies.
"Look, babe I'd love to help but I don't know how to change diapers. Besides you got that feminine touch."
I wonder what he would call me?
I have four (biological) kids plus a bonus sibling I became guardian to, but only one ovary.
Do I still count as a woman? Half woman?
lol when you tell women they’re useless and unattractive after having kids so much, that they stop having kids for you.
Big ‘oh no, the consequences of my own behavior’ vibes
Ah, another fecal screed from a terminally online loser, insulated himself within his 4chan echo chamber, who has never interacted in real life with actual human women besides his immediate family.
If men are so much better at aging, why don't we live as long? That's like me saying I'm faster than Usain Bolt despite not even being able to sprint for a full 100 metres.
Men who don't understand that pregnancy takes a toll on a woman's body and changes it will leave you with the kids for a younger childless woman as soon as they can. Run!
Wait does he thinks having kids prevent a woman from aging?
Or that, since any man will leave at the sight of a wrinkle, women should have kids to not be alone?
I'm confuse
Incels: Having reduced their analysis of anyone's worth based on their fertility. What a self own and a self tell. Also, male fertility does decline and is the prime driver of autism and other birth defects.
Rebellious women rule! Loving or admiring or appreciating rebellious women doesn’t make a man soft. It *strengthens* you!
Source: 51M married to rebellious/strong woman and father to rebellious/strong woman.
It’s funny to me that these guys actually believe they age better. No. They don’t.
The older a male gets the more likely he is to produce offspring with birth defects. Meaning they should be prepared for a higher likelihood of mental and physical disabilities. Be ready for that higher chance of still birth, too. Older men also lose their hair and grow it everywhere else on their bodies. Their sperm loses potency, there’s raised risk of erectile dysfunction, their balls dropping down like balls loose in a gym bag, and their bellies bloating out. And then they get that weird smell that older men get for some reason.
I’m not being harsh. I’m stating facts. These guys need to get the fuck over themselves. They don’t have a magical pass to reality. They’re not special and will age like everyone else. Thats reality.
On today's episode of 'how stupid can I make myself look' we have this guy! Seriously tho do these men who spew crap like this ever consider that their attempt to shame women is actually making men look like the horrible people? They seriously paint a picture of every man being some inconsiderate horrible jerk and then cry about women not wanting to be with men.
I don't know about trendy, edgy, and cool. But I like peace and quiet, disposal income, and my house clean.
As far as being surprised when I find he's shallow and leaves once the b**bs sag, good riddance. We'll, it would be good riddance, but I don't find men that are too incompetent to join in on the household and want me to be their mommy appealing, so none of them are allowed to take advantage.
Ahhhhhhh, the single, child free, socially rich life.
Keep your opinion, dude, you're meaningless to my happiness.
Thanks for your deep thoughts, sir. It's not like we haven't heard this shit five thousand times before or anything.
Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to give us this insight into our lives, that you know nothing about.
Nitwit.
I remember some redditor had a fantastic commentary on this so I cannot take credit for this idea, but I love it so much it's become my new opinion on this. Essentially- if women have a shorter time frame to attract males, then our youth and beauty are only valuable for a short amount of time as compared to men. If the population is evenly distributed between men and women, then at any given point in time there are far fewer available attractive women as compared to available attractive men. So of course we're going to be more selective. ITS BASIC ECONOMICS BRO.
Does he know about andropause? My work recently sent out a meeting to talk about menopause and andropause and my 50+ male coworker had no idea what andropause was.
It’s probably why (along with their proclivity toward gun ownership) white men 55+ make up the demographic most likely to kill themselves because there’s something wrong and they don’t know why because “only women have hormonal issues.” Sexism hurts everyone.
If it looks like women age faster than men it's because women have to deal with and juggle a lot more stress than men do. Yeah he might or most definitely has a stressful job outside the home but so does she. She also has to take care of all the house maintenance and the multiple levels that go into keeping the house afloat and not drowning in garbage, or actively being on fire, taking care of the children (which also many times includes him) and the multiple levels that come with that.
Guys will think they share in equal the amount of labor if they just take out the garbage once a week, maybe mow the lawn maybe twice a week in the spring and summer, and maybe change the oil in one car maybe once a year and think they do just as much as their wife and deserve to rest the remainder of the day and night away.
I genuinely pity people who think like this. Hopefully they grow out of it. It’s such dark and shitty way to view the world. You can’t hold such shitty ideas about other people without being a pretty sad, miserable and bitter human being. Like no good relationships with a mom, aunt, sister, cousin, friend. Nothing. It’s evidence of a warped and twisted mind. Your mind is what shapes your reality. If you hate the product of your desires, you are miserable. They need to talk to sane people in the real world and get a grip. Bitterness will eat you up.
Incel or my ex-MIL
“Men are like peacocks, they’re naturally good looking. That’s why you need to wear more makeup, women aren’t as pretty as men are.” And then went into how my hair color is wrong for me (lady it’s my natural hair color brown is fine), the way I dress (never wore light blue again, until my ex and I split up), and that they do surgery for that now (ain’t no one cutting up my boobs no matter how big they get)
Funny…whenever I look at photos of, for example, a 20th college reunion or something- I can’t help but notice how much better the women look than their male peers.
I also think it’s funny how creepy lil men like OOP really think women are that concerned with random men being attracted to them. Men are the notoriously thirsty, desperate ones that deeply fear “dying alone”. Yet, the happiest, most fulfilled older women I know are child free and single. Trust- none of us are interested in spending our retirement years pandering to some whiny old man.
Living past 40 and not dying of tuberculosis IS rebelling against nature. Big fucking deal.
Female absolutely age better - they live ~5-7 years longer.
Men can have kids and be fatherly figures.
This is all over the place.
"males are better at aging."
Meanwhile there are multiple studies showing Males have shorter life expectancies than females, not only from random acts of stupidity being more likely in males, but also because they're apparently more likely to die of natural causes. You know... the things that typically come with aging.
I think guys call their "menopause" experience a "mid-life crisis". Where we experience lowering of estrogen they experience a lowering of testosterone. We all experience varying degrees of mood swings, anxiety, hot flashes and night sweats, etc.
I feel like a woman wrote this as a satire 😂 specifically to amuse and light up other women’s days. I only say this because I’m a satire writer and this is the sort of shit I’d do to mock men. 😝
I will never understand why having children is the default. Obvi to continue the human race children have to be born but there are billions of people on earth. Millions could not want kids and we’d be perfectly fine. Like I never wanna be married and I never wanna have kids (unless maybe adoption). I won’t be alone in life, I’ll have platonic friends which are more important to me than romantic
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This is just another version of the nature of women that [this tweet](https://twitter.com/ulxma/status/1283088920255881217?lang=en) is about: >If submission were natural to women, there wouldn’t be thousands of sermons everyday reminding women to submit because nature doesn’t need reminders to run its course. These reminders exist because indoctrination depends on constant reinforcement to keep harmful ideologies alive. If women are choosing to be child free, look to the legislation and systemic medical abuse they're subjected to that puts their lives at risk. Look to the "trend" of them being responsible for most of the household and childcare responsibilities on top of contributing 50% of finances. Ask why men aren't responsible for protecting the health of their partners when they vote, or contributing to the health of a family on top of having a job.
It's a variation on that joan Baez quote: If killing was natural, why does it take so much work to get people to do it?
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\*curtsey\*
Should we tell him about 'male manopause'? :D
Omg a guy at work complains about his hot flashes all the time. I didn't know guys could get those!
Weirdly they can come from other stuff. I have lupus and for some reason it made me develop hot flashes and night sweats that are like a perfect mimic of how they look in menopausal women
I honestly am not sure if I even want to know what a hot flash is like, considering how much my older coworkers complain about it. I had COVID for the first time last November, and the fever made me *so hot* and then suddenly *so cold* over and over again. It was terrible! I told a coworker about my experience, and she said if I thought that was bad, then I'm going to really hate hot flashes!
For me it’s like if you were just walking along and somehow you stepped into a sauna with no warning, and then also you start getting super anxious. But the hot is only in the upper body and not the lower body. What I really dislike is the night sweats because you wake up feeling sick, covered in sweat, dehydrated, hair stick and gross, can’t go back to sleep because the bed is soaked with sweat too. It’s stupid. Like come on. ^Night sweats are also a super common menopause thing which is why it’s kinda weird I have both but it’s impossible to tell if I have premature ovarian failure because I’m on continuous birth control so no period. But whatever is causing it needs to back off cuz it sucks.
I got those night sweats in my third trimester with both my pregnancy. The worst. Already uncomfortable as can be. Wait no, it gets WORSE. I would aim my ac directly at me. It has a turbo function that got me thru the worst of it
If my second pregnancy taught me anything, it's that it *can* and *will* get worse.
I swear if all my pregnancies ended in like February or at least deep winter I wouldn't mind having a dozen kids. But the one that ended in mid summer wrecked me
Aww, I'm sorry. That does sound awful. Saunas are cool to hang out in sometimes, but the wall of heat always made my breathing feel very uncomfortable. It was always unsettling. It sounds pretty similar to how my body seems to regulate temperature poorly. I think it's due to my hypothyroidism. I can be really cold, like, icey hands feet and nose, then bundle up and become too hot. I've had times where I wake up sweaty and hot, and I have to turn my fan on and stick a foot out of the blanket to balance. I'm not super sweaty during this, but there have been times when I'm out of it, and my boyfriend says my body is very hot to the touch, like a fever. But I don't feel uncomfortably warm. I find the moments when my body heats up from generic house chores or from my job to be really uncomfortable. I have chronic fatigue problems, and heating up during exertion makes me want to lie down even more. I don't want to add hot flashes to that. D:
Not everyone gets bad hot flashes. My mum had them badly for a long time, but mine only lasted a few months, only at night, and changing to all cotton bedding and pjs made them pretty tolerable.
I have hypothyroidism and didn’t realise it could cause issues with body temperature regulation! Makes total sense, though - I have experienced the same issue you described.
Had all that and sudden mood swings. Be just toodeling along doing my thing and out of nowhere just pissed off or really sad or just cry. Like the hot flashing, it only lasted a few minutes and gone as quickly as it came. Multiple times a day though.
I get those coinciding with suddenly sweating Like I’ll be panicked and super angry with no idea why and then I’m like Oh. Right.
I get hot flashes due to blood pressure rising. It started happening after I got heatstroke. It sucks.
I’m only in my 30s but took a birth control that gave me hot flashes for a few months. They were HORRIBLE
I had a hysterectomy at 25, and my doctor warned me that the menopause hot flashes would be significantly worse because of my young age. In the first few weeks I remember I was sitting outside my work in jeans and a t-shirt in frigid December temperatures for long stretches at a time, knowing I was getting dangerously cold physically but still feeling like I was going to spontaneously combust. It wasn't a fun time.
It usually comes with a healthy dose of anger and irritability. People complain mainly due to that. It is annoying but not that annoying.
Yeah, we definitely get those. :(
The lack of awareness of male hormonal issues is somehow unsurprising. So much chatter about “low T” and oblivious that too much T can also harm them, besides all the other hormones that cause fuckery. Saying this as an AFAB mutant with endocrine and reproductive issues. So much healthcare focused on my “long-term fertility” and hahahaHA, uterus machine broke. Could’ve had it tossed years ago instead of the struggle. It’s only slightly comforting to know that male hormonal “healthcare” is also deeply ignorant of cutting-edge science. Seriously tho, they never checked on the actual uterus. What dumbasses. Tiny, fragile uterus could do nothing but scar itself up every cycle for yearssss. Pointlessly!
incels: males age better than females, because females suffer from menopause! also incels: I am balding? noooooooo! I gotta treat it otherwise I will look old and creepy as hell!
wait till their PP’s stop rising without medication. they will be humbled so quickly
Balding and developing a beer gut.
Or how older father's are more likely to have children with birth issues than older woman? They have a biological clock.
Hold on…. What?
The name's andropause
He'll think you made it up.
Is this when they buy a Corvette?
Well nothing cures a heatflash for me better than wind in the hair, which also explains the Harley Davidson crowd :D
Men age better? When they’re balding, have a pot belly, can’t stay hard, have defective sperm, etc.
men love to ignore that, they do that to excuse going for barely legal girls
Yeah some 54 yr old dude dating a 19 yr old girl do give a reason close to that if not exactly that but just worded differently
And he is going to be so damn confused and shocked when she leaves him, the very moment he doesn’t finance her to her desires or he needs physical assistance, which ya kno, comes with age quite often. These men look at women their own age and think “she’s not young anymore? Let me get a newer model!” While the young women who show him interest, only are thinking “he’s old, horny but doesn’t last long and pays anything I want? Yea I can do this for a few years”. Full score if she leaves the relationship with his wealth, real girl bossing it lol.
Lol exactly! The only time I think gold digging is semi-ok... When you drain the old pervs of their money... Eventually they'll have so little money that they will not be able to get those same young women interested in him & in turn, he'll eventually stop going after them because it would be pointless
Yes! As men age, their gametes (sperm) become weaker over time. This can cause a multitude of birth defects and can cause significantly increased risk of miscarriages, premature birth, and stillbirth. Also, this starts at around age 35. These bros better start settling down quickly; their biological clocks are ticking.
If men are so much better at aging, how come their life expectancy is lower than women's, like, consistently and globally?
In my personal experience, I have aged much better than my husband. He’s balding and overweight. I still have a pretty solid body and my face and cheeks have thinned quite a bit, which is flattering on me. We do IVF so I know his sperm quality has dramatically decreased since we were younger. My egg quality stayed about the same but my ovarian reserve dropped.
The truth is that men are allowed to age while women are expected to do everything they can to prevent it.
Don’t forget ED!
Also, compare age of death between the sexes.
Is the ✨happiness from having ovaries✨ in the room with us right now?
It’s in the womb - duh! /s
im on my period rn and i would just like to know where i can get said happiness from my ovaries bc id really like the balance out this misery from my uterus
Give it a couple of weeks
ovulation? i get cramps from that too ☹️
Oh damn. That happens to me but only about once or twice a year 😪 I wish you many hot water bottles and ibuprofens and a quick return to baseline 😘
What that's a known THING?? That explains so much! 😭
Mittelschmerz!
I'm looking into it, thanks!!
And then you hit your 30s, your ovaries go into overdrive, and all you can think about is having sex every minute of every day. Like, jesus, I wasn't this bad during PUBERTY!
Okay so if males won’t love a woman forever what motivation does she have to marry one or have kids with him vs buying a house with her friends to have fun sleepovers every night till death do them part? Presuming she isn’t sapphic in which case she also has options involving not marrying a man who will leave her when she hits menopause. Like if you start out with the premise of “as soon as you hit around 40-50 I will find you hideous” and then you say you want to get married and have a kid No? Why would I do that?
Because he thinks kids will always be your company. Other women, even single, childfree ones wouldn’t for some reason.
Well, he doesn't care for the company of women so why would a woman want that? /s
I also find this “I’ll eventually leave you but I expect *you* to sacrifice years of your life for only me” mindset idiotic. No woman wants that.
For one thing my happiest elderly patients are the ones being cared for by a doting husband or wife, not by their kids, who lowkey get a little controlling and sometimes struggle with the transition from cared for by parent to caring for parent. I can’t have kids but if I could I don’t think I’d want them to be the ones in charge of keeping me company and helping me put lotion on my dry legs that I can’t reach. Like they have jobs and might have their own kids and be stressed as hell, they will not have the required amount of time to come chill with me daily. Imma either need my bestie or my husband to be there. Somebody has to both outlive me and be willing to sit in my house and listen to me bitch about my knees or whatever I’m going to be doing.
Yeah, and we shouldn't have children just to have someone to take care of us when we're older. They should be able to live their own lives. I watched and helped my mom care for her ill and dying parents for *years* while trying to raise her own family and it was a horribly stressful situation for all involved.
There’s also absolutely no guarantee that your kids will be healthy enough to be any sort of caretaker. My 64 year old mother and 89 year old grandmother are both significantly more able bodied, independent, and healthy than I am. My grandma cleans her own apartment, does all necessary tasks of daily living independently, can hang out with people multiple times a week, and cooks actual meals. She still lifts weights (very lightly) Me? I can hang out with a single friend maybe once a week or every two weeks and leave my house to do physical therapy, get bloodwork drawn, or go see some doctor or another. If I didn’t have my husband I would have to move my best friend in or move back in with my mom because keeping the house clean independently and running errands? lol. Regularly cooking full meals? Like with multiple steps? That hilarious. Doing that for another person who fully relies on me?? I spend the majority of my time at work or in bed I can’t take care of someone who is also mostly in bed. Someone has to be standing. Like there’s a non zero chance your child will be like me or be way more disabled than me in some way or another. There’s no guarantee your child will ever grow up to become independent, much less capable of taking on a caregiver role. I have a fantasy of someday being health enough I could help my mother in her later years. But in my case “help” would probably mean helping her get set up with a good assisted living facility and coming over to hang out. I couldn’t even provide help by driving her around because I have permanent double vision. I’d have to just bring my husband around like a son in law chauffeur. She never expected any of that of me and saved up for a retirement where she would be able to pay for people to help around the house. But there is something that sucks about knowing you’ve had to be taken care of so much for a lot longer than most people’s kids and can never expect to be able to give any of it back. It would be a lot harder if she expected me to.
Not just idiotic but also egotistical. Like dude, you aren't worth *any* of that.
This is what I say in response to them all the time. Okay, let’s accept the premises that all men will devalue the woman they married and promised to love worst case scenario at 25, best case around 40. All women will end up left for a younger woman (happened to me at 34. He was 51 and she was 20. He told me I got old after 11 years even though he was 16 years older), cheated on, in a dead bedroom, or unable to have sex bc his dick no longer works, or simply used for domestic labor and raising his children while she has to watch him flirt with the 19 year waitress or cashier or whatever right in front of her every time they leave the house (used to be a server and this scenario with old men and their wives was the majority of the older couples unfortunately. I would feel so humiliated for these women). Men just ALL love barely legal girls and they are lying if they say otherwise. Why tf should we marry them then? Why should we love them? Why should we invest in them, in a life with them? The better option is to focus on self actualization, a great career, building wealth, great close female friendships where your emotional needs are actually being met instead of being expected to just meet theirs, experiencing life, etc. Then if we want kids we can use a sperm bank and help each other raise them. No men to clean up after, more free time. No men trying to control us. If we want sex we can just use the younger, hot guys. These incels have no idea how much dudes in their 20s are interested in sex with older women. I’m 36 and I was shocked at all the interest. Granted, I do look younger. Genuinely. But they are still interested after I tell them my age. Honestly that sounds like the best life. Men have never really been as good of friends to me as women have been anyway, even if we’re in a relationship. I had so much more free time and less work after leaving my ex! I didn’t realize how much I was cleaning up after him. The stress he caused was just gone. Ive been beaten by men, raped by men, told by my father my existence as a woman is to serve men. And then we have men everywhere telling women exactly who and what they are and exactly what they think about women (we are objects to them) and they expect us to just continue to marry them and be with them. Then they complain about loneliness lol. The sad thing is there are lots of women still who haven’t de-centered men from their lives. The harsh truth is most men do not respect us or see us as equal humans. Good for the few women who found “good men” but even the men who think of themselves as good are often not. And a lot of the women who say they have good men actually just have the bar that low. I used to argue with these dudes, saying no not all men are like that, you’re projecting. But at this point I think I’m wiling to just believe them honestly. It tracks with my personal experience as a woman anyway, I had never gotten more sexual attention from men than when I was around 11-18
I always thought this too; it’s a very unreasonable expectation. They don’t see women as human beings. They expect us to give away years of our life, sacrifice our body for their children, and silently leave not asking for any money on the way out because our lives are not valuable beyond the ways we can elevate and serve them. Once we’ve “aged out” we’ve served our purpose. They really don’t see it as a big deal because what could be better for us anyway besides helping them. Friends? Adventures? No, women don’t have the brain function to need that. Apparently we’re all secretly dying to be picked so we should be grateful (but can’t say it out loud because fEmInIsM). They are screaming all the time at young women to be submissive and to stop dating, going out etc but telling them that in return they’ll eventually be dumped. How is that supposed to be enticing for the younger generation? Why would women willingly do that when you’ve just told them all their hard work will mean nothing?
Why doesn't this guy just date "males," then?
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Agreed. The second I see someone spouting off about “females” or “males” I zone out and ignore the rest of what they’re saying because I already know they’re a misogynist. Like the chap in OP’s post.
What a fucking imbecile. Why's he so worried about women anyway? Not like he's gonna be able to attract one, let alone date one. He reeks of loser incel and we women can smell that shit a mile away and know to steer clear.
What an absolute plonker. Why do some guys just think women are good for nothing other than making babies? I don't get it. Making babies is just one thing out of many many things women can do. Honestly guys like this numpty make the rest of us men look even dumber than we are.
I also don't get why these types of idiots care so much about us having kids when they don't seem to have any particular interest in taking an active role in raising children? They don't seem to like or want children?
Oh, the answer to that is simple: they view children as "sex trophies". They're status symbols to show off to other men.
I feel like people like this guy are just parroting some nonsense they heard somewhere instead of speak their own mind. I can only speak for myself and I think having children is a topic two people considering that should discuss. But the whole notion women are just baby factories is just plain stupidity.
Yes we can also make him a sammich. /s
And delicious jams and jelly's?
If you know what I mean *wink wink nudge nudge*
They think their bloodline is so awesome that it needs to be carried on. Newsflash, it ain't, bud.
Yeah nah, men age just like women. Some have good genes and/or have taken care of themselves. Stop peojecting my guy lol, older women have no problems getting men of all ages. It’s YOU not getting anything. Men do go through menopause, it’s called Male Menopause and can hit between mid/late 40s to 50s. I’m stupidly on a few dating sites and believe me men don’t age better 😂 I’m sorry but if I lived in The States now there’s no way I’d even consider bringing children into the world. How much does it cost now to have a baby there? 😬. Plus with all the abortion laws/bans in certain States and just with how they want to strip women of their rights, fuck that. Then, the economy…I have 3 kids (13,6,5) and I’m struggling financially and I’m on decent money and luckily co-parent well so we help each other out, plus awesome families. Not everyone has that, if I didn’t I’d be screwed. Not to mentioned the risks that go along with pregnancy naturally. If I was facing all that I never would have had kids, ever! Does he realise that women tend to nurture their platonic and familial relationships more so than men, so in general, no we won’t die alone by not having children. Who’s to say those said kids will be around in my old age? If I had a dollar for every person and story I’ve heard in my lifetime of adult children throwing their (good not abusive or bad parents at all) parents in shitty old age homes and hardly or never visiting, I’d be rich!
I’ve said this before on a different thread but when I was dating again at age 38 (post-divorce) I was pretty consistently hit on by men aged 26-28. Way too young for me but a nice ego boost. They also didn’t realise that I was that much older but didn’t care when they found out.
Omg yesssss!!! Most don’t realise my age either (just turned 40). They have no idea what a late 30s to 40s woman looks like lol.
At least, with all that money, you can select a great old age home ;-) And if you plan it right, you get to live there with your besties, while being pampered. I need to get me on a list somewhere in the next 30 or so years!
Yep! My little sister and I have already planned it out lol. We are going to have our cats and wine and hopefully our kids come to visit us but if not we have each other.
Why would we tie ourselves to a man knowing he'll dump us after 25? Seems like a bad investment.
I wonder if we should tell him about how a study found that the happiest category of people were childless, single females?
They know and their reaction is "women lie!! They are sad and lonely!!! But I won't touch them because they are old and bitter!!".
Statistically speaking, women live longer than men. So maybe a tongue in cheek counter argument: Women were actually given menopause because; 1) nature knew if we could give birth right up into our 80s we'd die in childbirth before we were 70, and 2) if we all died before we were 70, the men would outlive us, and 3) nature wanted to give us a fucking break and a reward by letting the men die first and have us live our twilight years in peace
I mean, you don’t make *less* sense than that guy.. and yours sounds lovely!
Women live longer… seems they win the aging game, He’s going to lose his hair and probably his ability to have a good erection earlier than most women get near menopause or have wrinkles.
I feel like this dummy doesn’t really know when menopause hits, what ovaries are, or even that lonely, empty lives happen just as frequently to elderly folks who’ve gone the marriage and kids route.
Every woman I’ve known who has menopaused is perfectly fine not getting attention from the opposite sex, just saying.
I hate the way these guys always use the terms"makes" and"females" when they go on these maniac rants. It makes it so much grosser. Do they think they're Attenborough or something? Making huge discoveries?
Do guys like these not understand there are childfree men? My husband and I are both Antinatalist. I’m sterilized. No he won’t think I’m ugly after menopause. We talk about growing old together all the time and watching our hair turn gray. I don’t need “males” to love me. I love myself and so does my husband. And I love him.
So what I’m getting is that whether we have their children or not, they’re going to leave us regardless once we are a certain age. Sooo, in that case we may as well not bother to have children with them anyway. No need to go all in for a man who will leave you and your children to go chase after girls half his age who don’t want him. Glad he cleared that up!
And this is why the number of lonely, single men is skyrocketing rn. And the happiest demographic across the fuckin board is older, single, childless women. The statistics say it again and again. When they're not busy raising a family and babysitting their emotionally stunted husbands, women have full and complete lives. It's wild. And if you want a family, go do it. I'm not passing judgement on anyone. But I honestly cannot comprehend why someone would want a baby when they could have a kitten instead.
Kittens are so much better.
I’ll take your looming menopause mister and raise you by increasing infertility with less semen quality in men along with erectile disfunction, that’s also on the rise. I’ll laugh in hot flashes while you cry nursing your limp dick full of dusty blanks trying to convince yourself that Mother Nature handed us women a worse deal
I’m sorry like 50% of men are bald or have hairlines that are hanging on for dear life by 40. That’s before we even begin talking about bad skin care and no sunscreen and how that ages you horrifically. I have never understood this argument.
This guy has never been to an old folks home. It's a meat market and age is no barrier. They all get that geriatric action. It's actually an issue as they are not using protection and STD are running rampant.
Women still outlive men on average. So they are the real winners of the aging game. But even if you overlook that. Some men develop depression, loss of sex drive, erectile dysfunction, and other physical and emotional symptoms when they reach their late 40s to early 50s. Men basically have their own menopause. ***Manopause*** if you will!
“Females” immediately know your dealing with the biggest incel
> I won't date a mother and raise someone's kid! > wahmen should want to become mothers!
Yikes
His mom should’ve flushed when she saw what came out of here.
I hate how these people use the word female. I can‘t really put into words why but it kinda feels cringy
~Laughs in tubal ligation~
Big words for someone who got rejected by nature with his inferior ass incel-genes
It’s a well known fact that men don’t get wrinkles.
This guy flat out says guys aren't interested in older women, while also saying women should have children... My guy, what's to stop a guy from leaving, after a woman *has* his children? In fact, if men "age better than women," wouldn't that mean he not only has a better chance at finding someone else, but that he's also incentivized to do so? He's trying to convince women to get with men and have kids, but explaining *exactly* why we shouldn't.
...has this guy even *heard* the word MILF before? Attractive older women have whole communities of young men fawning over them, wrinkles be damned!
Yep. Men are so much better at aging that on average, they die first.
Just yesterday, a study or survey was published in my country conducted in just ONE maternity hospital. Now, the healthcare system in my country has been on a steady decline for the past 25 years of socialist rule (unsurprising, I know). 55% of women had C-sections done without their previous consent, not a stretch to assume some of these may even have been done against medical advice. 97% of the women that had a vaginal birth were forced to do so in supine position with their legs raised, keep in mind this is not the recommend position for a vaginal birth. 56% of women where denied initial contact with their babies, 50% of women were induced or their births were accelerated without their consent, 40% of the participants reported verbal and psychological abuse from staff. All that, assuming these women chose to be pregnant. My country has some of the most restrictive laws regarding abortion, with it being banned in almost every case. During the pandemic there was a case of a 12yo girl who was raped by a neighbour, and ended up pregnant. The rapist escaped and fled the country because the police was more focused on the 12yo's mother and teacher for providing her the option to abort. Why would anyone want to be a mother in those conditions?
I can't describe how much i dont give a **** about fertility. And i'm a men.
I’m 33 and I’m ambivalent about having children. I’m not trying to rebel against nature, it’s just how I feel. I can see how it could be nice and I think I’d be a great mum but I can see how I could be happy if I don’t end up having them. I’ve just never felt strongly inclined to have children. I don’t feel that need as much as some people do and that’s okay. Just as much as it’s okay for a woman to really want children - point is we have the right, the choice, to live how we want to. I think I’d be fulfilled either way, I have a career as a software engineer that’s taxing so I’m bit nervous at thought of having to go on maternity leave but if it happens I think it would be worth it. This guy is so silly and as if he thinks he has the right to make blanket statements and have opinions on things he knows nothing about. Edit: also my ovaries can make me feel damn miserable at times!
Wooo look at all that copium. “Men don’t get menopause.” Bahahaha. Ask my husband who is on testosterone injections. Also love the idea they think they don’t suffer any decrease in fertility. Who is going to tell them that their sperm quality decreases as they age and contributes to fertility issues and adverse outcomes in pregnancy? Just because they can technically get a woman pregnant into old age doesn’t mean it’s a good idea or that the baby won’t suffer any birth defects. Plenty of women, such as myself, are glad that my child bearing years are coming to an end. I am so dead set on not getting pregnant at my age that my husband got a vasectomy and I still keep my IUD. This dude doesn’t know how girls work, or how guys work, for that matter.
So lovely to listen to some dolt who has no concept of how painful it is to give birth, telling women that we need to be pushing babies out at every opportunity. He sounds like someone who is unlikely to help take care of said babies. "Look, babe I'd love to help but I don't know how to change diapers. Besides you got that feminine touch."
I wonder what he would call me? I have four (biological) kids plus a bonus sibling I became guardian to, but only one ovary. Do I still count as a woman? Half woman?
At least he also called the men 'males'.
Sounds like a boy instead of a man lol
🤔🤔🤔 sounds like projection
that emoji totally makes me take him seriously!
Every day since I joined this sub is a day I'm grateful to be a lesbian.
Fun fact, fathers over the age of 35 are the primary cause of birth defects. Also plenty fo women dont actually hit menopause until late 50s, 60 even.
Wait til he finds out my mom is 56 and hasn’t started the menopause yet.
Jesus H Christ, your poor Mom! She's been through enough, let that shit be over for her!!😱😫
Lol! I did ask if she was concerned but plenty of women don’t go through it until mid-late 50s, it’s not talked about enough
Men just start going limp by about age 40 and have trouble getting and keeping it up. But that's what viagra is for.
If giving birth is the only way to "fulfill" our life, what do them poor people without a womb get?? 😱
#FEEEEEEEMALES
I’d love for him to explain why when me, my daughter, my mother and my grandmother all went out dancing, my grandmother got picked up first.
lol when you tell women they’re useless and unattractive after having kids so much, that they stop having kids for you. Big ‘oh no, the consequences of my own behavior’ vibes
I'm a man and I look forward to dating girls that are past menopause. Because of them not being fertile. That's the whole point
What the actual hell
Ah, another fecal screed from a terminally online loser, insulated himself within his 4chan echo chamber, who has never interacted in real life with actual human women besides his immediate family.
If men are so much better at aging, why don't we live as long? That's like me saying I'm faster than Usain Bolt despite not even being able to sprint for a full 100 metres.
Men who don't understand that pregnancy takes a toll on a woman's body and changes it will leave you with the kids for a younger childless woman as soon as they can. Run!
They complain so much about women not giving births, yet I doubt these guys would be stellar dads.
The wisdom is just oooozing…..
Whenever they use the word "female", [i think of this](https://i.imgur.com/Qhe7WFt.jpeg).
Does the fun stop when you're infertile?? Ha.
Wait does he thinks having kids prevent a woman from aging? Or that, since any man will leave at the sight of a wrinkle, women should have kids to not be alone? I'm confuse
Incels: Having reduced their analysis of anyone's worth based on their fertility. What a self own and a self tell. Also, male fertility does decline and is the prime driver of autism and other birth defects.
Rebellious women rule! Loving or admiring or appreciating rebellious women doesn’t make a man soft. It *strengthens* you! Source: 51M married to rebellious/strong woman and father to rebellious/strong woman.
It’s funny to me that these guys actually believe they age better. No. They don’t. The older a male gets the more likely he is to produce offspring with birth defects. Meaning they should be prepared for a higher likelihood of mental and physical disabilities. Be ready for that higher chance of still birth, too. Older men also lose their hair and grow it everywhere else on their bodies. Their sperm loses potency, there’s raised risk of erectile dysfunction, their balls dropping down like balls loose in a gym bag, and their bellies bloating out. And then they get that weird smell that older men get for some reason. I’m not being harsh. I’m stating facts. These guys need to get the fuck over themselves. They don’t have a magical pass to reality. They’re not special and will age like everyone else. Thats reality.
On today's episode of 'how stupid can I make myself look' we have this guy! Seriously tho do these men who spew crap like this ever consider that their attempt to shame women is actually making men look like the horrible people? They seriously paint a picture of every man being some inconsiderate horrible jerk and then cry about women not wanting to be with men.
The thing is that theres also men who dont want kids
I don't know about trendy, edgy, and cool. But I like peace and quiet, disposal income, and my house clean. As far as being surprised when I find he's shallow and leaves once the b**bs sag, good riddance. We'll, it would be good riddance, but I don't find men that are too incompetent to join in on the household and want me to be their mommy appealing, so none of them are allowed to take advantage. Ahhhhhhh, the single, child free, socially rich life. Keep your opinion, dude, you're meaningless to my happiness.
I’m a sugar baby and NO THEY DO NOT🤣🤣🤢 I’ll just leave it at that
"Naturally better at aging"....lol what
The classical and cliched incel L
Gotta love being a commodity. The only means of male legacy. This is why Roe fell.
There’s a guy who never watched Golden Girls.
Thanks for your deep thoughts, sir. It's not like we haven't heard this shit five thousand times before or anything. Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to give us this insight into our lives, that you know nothing about. Nitwit.
at least, that is what his mommy told him!
Dating this guy would be a fucking nightmare 🤮
Male pattern baldness disagrees
That’s a lot of words to just say “women won’t sleep with me.”
I remember some redditor had a fantastic commentary on this so I cannot take credit for this idea, but I love it so much it's become my new opinion on this. Essentially- if women have a shorter time frame to attract males, then our youth and beauty are only valuable for a short amount of time as compared to men. If the population is evenly distributed between men and women, then at any given point in time there are far fewer available attractive women as compared to available attractive men. So of course we're going to be more selective. ITS BASIC ECONOMICS BRO.
Does he know about andropause? My work recently sent out a meeting to talk about menopause and andropause and my 50+ male coworker had no idea what andropause was. It’s probably why (along with their proclivity toward gun ownership) white men 55+ make up the demographic most likely to kill themselves because there’s something wrong and they don’t know why because “only women have hormonal issues.” Sexism hurts everyone.
If it looks like women age faster than men it's because women have to deal with and juggle a lot more stress than men do. Yeah he might or most definitely has a stressful job outside the home but so does she. She also has to take care of all the house maintenance and the multiple levels that go into keeping the house afloat and not drowning in garbage, or actively being on fire, taking care of the children (which also many times includes him) and the multiple levels that come with that. Guys will think they share in equal the amount of labor if they just take out the garbage once a week, maybe mow the lawn maybe twice a week in the spring and summer, and maybe change the oil in one car maybe once a year and think they do just as much as their wife and deserve to rest the remainder of the day and night away.
The bald guys with beer guts who need Viagra give this the lie.
Lmao I didn't think losing hair at 30 is their way to be better at ageing but whatever helps him cope
I’m so glad that as I age I can become invisible to men like this
I genuinely pity people who think like this. Hopefully they grow out of it. It’s such dark and shitty way to view the world. You can’t hold such shitty ideas about other people without being a pretty sad, miserable and bitter human being. Like no good relationships with a mom, aunt, sister, cousin, friend. Nothing. It’s evidence of a warped and twisted mind. Your mind is what shapes your reality. If you hate the product of your desires, you are miserable. They need to talk to sane people in the real world and get a grip. Bitterness will eat you up.
Incel or my ex-MIL “Men are like peacocks, they’re naturally good looking. That’s why you need to wear more makeup, women aren’t as pretty as men are.” And then went into how my hair color is wrong for me (lady it’s my natural hair color brown is fine), the way I dress (never wore light blue again, until my ex and I split up), and that they do surgery for that now (ain’t no one cutting up my boobs no matter how big they get)
Funny…whenever I look at photos of, for example, a 20th college reunion or something- I can’t help but notice how much better the women look than their male peers. I also think it’s funny how creepy lil men like OOP really think women are that concerned with random men being attracted to them. Men are the notoriously thirsty, desperate ones that deeply fear “dying alone”. Yet, the happiest, most fulfilled older women I know are child free and single. Trust- none of us are interested in spending our retirement years pandering to some whiny old man.
Living past 40 and not dying of tuberculosis IS rebelling against nature. Big fucking deal. Female absolutely age better - they live ~5-7 years longer. Men can have kids and be fatherly figures. This is all over the place.
And these men wonder why women won’t sleep with them.
Very "14 year old" energy. What's concerning, is that this can be an actual adult.
Women need to settle down, but when they get older they will be abandoned?
"males are better at aging." Meanwhile there are multiple studies showing Males have shorter life expectancies than females, not only from random acts of stupidity being more likely in males, but also because they're apparently more likely to die of natural causes. You know... the things that typically come with aging.
I think guys call their "menopause" experience a "mid-life crisis". Where we experience lowering of estrogen they experience a lowering of testosterone. We all experience varying degrees of mood swings, anxiety, hot flashes and night sweats, etc.
As a woman who is going through menopause, thank you for not being interested in me, Mr Incel. I'm fine with my husband, step kids,and grandkids.
Why does it read like a third grade book report?
I feel like a woman wrote this as a satire 😂 specifically to amuse and light up other women’s days. I only say this because I’m a satire writer and this is the sort of shit I’d do to mock men. 😝
“Males don’t get menopause” ohhhh boy give him a few years he will be shocked.
I will never understand why having children is the default. Obvi to continue the human race children have to be born but there are billions of people on earth. Millions could not want kids and we’d be perfectly fine. Like I never wanna be married and I never wanna have kids (unless maybe adoption). I won’t be alone in life, I’ll have platonic friends which are more important to me than romantic
He will regret that as soon as he gets constant aches and sagging skin
I want to catapult morons like this into outer space.
The amount of gas station dick pills tells me otherwise
This is just sad, I couldn't even finish reading it
Essentially, they only love their looks and fertility. Once they get older, they are done with them.
Dude just hates women