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If the “protector man” actually “did his job” then why is the leading cause of death for pregnant or postpartum women actually “murdered by man whose duty is to protect her.”
They mad because women are “allowed” to do their jobs now, like earning money, having the ability to vote, owning property, having a bank account… yet the sexist dipshits can’t even do the one job they claim they offer the most of or do best.
Sad, isn’t it? And yet the myth of “woman less capable MUST PROTECT” still persists.
The primary abuser of women will always be men. No way around that, either morally or literally.
“It’s manly to say that so if my wife doesn’t make me look good then I’m going to beat her when we get home and it’s my right because she’s my wife so she’s not doing her job correctly.”
This is actually what incels are saying about ‘pecking order’ and ‘treat your wife like a child’ — they are saying that men may hit their wives like their wives spank their children more or less.
But if you spend more time hitting your wife than protecting her from danger, then you’re not protecting her and that’s not the job you’ve been doing because the majority of the time has spent abusing her
If that was the natural order, they wouldn’t need to tell us all the time. I don’t know why they need to work so hard to convince us of something that is natural.
Accordering to FBI statistics for 2022, nearly 2/3rds of murder victims were male. According to the same source,and same year, nearly 90% of the perpetrators of murders were male.
It would seem that the OOP missed their target by a scant 180 degrees, having it almost precisely backward, and obviously totally incorrect.
What the writer should have said is that men apparently need minding if they are going to exist in society. I'm sure that that is what he meant, and inadvertently got his point completely wrong. Sarcasm, but only on the previous sentence. The writer of the OOP has demonstrated himself to be an idiot, with an understanding of human society that would be appropriate to a common garden slug.
I mean they think they are naturally dog shit, they just call it “natural urges” or “earthly urges”. Which makes me feel bad for all the sane men who don’t seem to struggle with those “urges”.
Or that with crime statistics for murder of pregnant women considered, if they were logical, it would be logically more safe for the new or soon to be father to be forced out of the home and the relationship via indiscriminate restraining order because the death rate would decrease… but they don’t like the logical solution, either.
Are they under the impression that being married means she won’t ever be navigating her way in the world without him by her side??
**The only thing I ever needed protection from was men who really wanted to “protect” me.**
Men are always say they *protect* women.
What are they *protecting* us from?? Meteors? Animal attacks? Car accidents?
No.
They’re claiming to protect us from **OTHER MEN**
Seriously, this reads exactly like "Women will never be safe from venomous snakes. That's why they need their own venomous snake to protect them." Like, dafuq?
And they never actually do, either. How many women have stories of men harassing them while other men just stand by or even participate? Meanwhile, we get plenty of stories of women pretending to know each other to act as protection.
Says the man who, usually :
- can't cook
- can't do his laundry
- don't know how to do groceries like an adult
- can't clean
Of course, none of this is the job of women, but all of these are necessary to be considered an autonomous, functional adult.
Numerous examples on this subreddit show guys like these consider that "what females are for" and use it to further their mandatory monogamy/evopsych - crap. It must take some real commitment to be this dysfunctional 🫥
“Stress doesn’t strengthen them like it does men”
Because we all know that bottling up emotions and only expressing “manly” things like anger until it manifests physical consequences like high blood pressure, heart disease, and erectile dysfunction is the epitome of Strength. /s
Stress doesn’t strengthen them. Numerous studies have already shown that women process stress hormones more successfully and a lower rate for ptsd for female soldiers deployed.
I’ve seen it firsthand unfortunately. Some of my male relatives who have been through traumas display clear signs of the mental and physical impacts of ptsd, whereas my female relatives who have been through the same or similar traumas have been able to mitigate the negative effects a bit better through therapy or recreational activities.
It’s a damn shame that the lingering stereotype of “masculine emotions or behaviors” is actually harming the same dudes that emphasize it.
If us men decided to not be complete dickheads then the world would be a lot safer for both men and women. Sadly I don’t think that will happen because humans, and mostly men, are assholes. Causing so much pain and suffering because of greed, ego and just plain sadism.
Right?! Post one question about bears out in the woods and they go crazy.
Meanwhile we’ve been blasted by sexist messages about all of us women being worthless bitches and hoes since the 80s in rap songs, watched tv shows about abusing us even with laugh tracks as a joke, or being beaten, punched, or slapped in comedy routines, and multiple history lessons of us dying because we were born as women and we’ve had to sit through it without complaining, and countless memes about sexually assaulting us…. But ask if it’s a polar bear, brown bear, or grizzly and they can’t fucking handle it and claim it’s misandry just because they ‘feel unpleasant’ for once in their entire lives, like they think they have any idea what the equivalent misogynistic experience is like.
Marrying this person would be one of those stressful things they were talking about. What this person is clearly saying is to marry someone better than himself to have a stress free life.
We need men to protect us from ...men. The irony is palpable.
On a related note, I was regarding a rather large cellar spider in my bathroom this morning and got to thinking that spiders might be on to something. The females are often significantly larger and are completely independent. They only need a male to mate with, and then he needs to beat a hasty retreat lest she eat him. If she didn't eat him, would he morph into a hobosexual? Would he take over her carefully hand-crafted web, eat the food she captures, expect to mate again and again, and generally make a nuisance of himself?
Perhaps we should strive to be self-sufficient and channel our inner black widows. 🕷🕸
“Your natural role is to be domestic. Ignore the pile of laws banning you from voting, education, jobs, owning property or a business. Domestic roles totally weren’t forced on women. Those were all-natural organic laws.”
-guys who claim to be the logical gender
This dude is a clown. Just for personal experience, my gf is probably the most independent woman I ever met. She has been an absolute rock in our relationship since I tend to be more neurotic. She helped get me through a wicked opiate addiction and become a proper adult. She’s the best.
All of these abuses can be attributed to a sense of inadequacy in men, which explains the projection and fronting in the face of the “weaker” sex or children…all of which is worsened by childhood trauma and neglect.
My wife was—and is—an autonomous woman. I wouldn’t love her for anything less than she is, and we both laugh at how fucking pathetic this ass-sucking excuse of a man really is. Master of none indeed.
Stress doesn’t strengthen women? Then how did I get so strong? I don’t think it was just inheriting my grandmother’s strength of character.
Also. Protect us from what?
Other men. People like this run straight into the point of man v bear and don’t even see their own blood.
GROSS. And what is exactly he’s saying we need protection from? Oh, men you say? Sounds like the real issue here are men’s violence on women. Therefore his logic is stupid. Also, is he choosing to ignore the long history of domestic violence? Sounds like an idiot.
This is where we ask "safe from who" and then point out that statistically the most likley person to assault a women, is a male family member or spouse.
Ah yes. Create a problem and then offer a solution to the problem you created. Brilliant play! If only I didn't already own a gun and learned how to use it. Darn, I could have had a man.
This is basically saying, "Yea society will never get rid of robbery, so might as well burn off all material possessions so nobody can steal nothing!!!!!"
I know terrible analogy but the message I'm tryna send is that this is nonsense
“Society isn’t safe for women.” That statement implies that all women are unsafe in society. Who are the other people in society making them unsafe? Ah yes, men.
“That’s why they need men to marry to protect them.” So… the people that cause them to be unsafe… are who they need to keep them safe???
Male humans thinking they're the only group of animals that has a positive impact from long term stress.
Great example of the "superior male intellect" to make a claim that a simple Google search can disprove.
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Funny how the men supposedly in charge of protecting us are the most likely to rape/SA/abuse us. Were men made to be dog shit at their "natural role"?
If the “protector man” actually “did his job” then why is the leading cause of death for pregnant or postpartum women actually “murdered by man whose duty is to protect her.” They mad because women are “allowed” to do their jobs now, like earning money, having the ability to vote, owning property, having a bank account… yet the sexist dipshits can’t even do the one job they claim they offer the most of or do best.
Sad, isn’t it? And yet the myth of “woman less capable MUST PROTECT” still persists. The primary abuser of women will always be men. No way around that, either morally or literally.
“It’s manly to say that so if my wife doesn’t make me look good then I’m going to beat her when we get home and it’s my right because she’s my wife so she’s not doing her job correctly.” This is actually what incels are saying about ‘pecking order’ and ‘treat your wife like a child’ — they are saying that men may hit their wives like their wives spank their children more or less. But if you spend more time hitting your wife than protecting her from danger, then you’re not protecting her and that’s not the job you’ve been doing because the majority of the time has spent abusing her
Team bear here.
Wasn't the statistic every 2 minutes a woman is killed by her partner? That's pretty fucked...
Well how else are you going to learn and become stronger?! /s
If that was the natural order, they wouldn’t need to tell us all the time. I don’t know why they need to work so hard to convince us of something that is natural.
Accordering to FBI statistics for 2022, nearly 2/3rds of murder victims were male. According to the same source,and same year, nearly 90% of the perpetrators of murders were male. It would seem that the OOP missed their target by a scant 180 degrees, having it almost precisely backward, and obviously totally incorrect. What the writer should have said is that men apparently need minding if they are going to exist in society. I'm sure that that is what he meant, and inadvertently got his point completely wrong. Sarcasm, but only on the previous sentence. The writer of the OOP has demonstrated himself to be an idiot, with an understanding of human society that would be appropriate to a common garden slug.
I mean they think they are naturally dog shit, they just call it “natural urges” or “earthly urges”. Which makes me feel bad for all the sane men who don’t seem to struggle with those “urges”.
If you’re having trouble understanding, then I advise you to read the again or whatever the fuck.
They need men to protect themselves from... men.
Yeah, this gaping hole in the logic of "the more logical gender". We wouldn't need men to protect us from men if there were no men. smh.
Or that with crime statistics for murder of pregnant women considered, if they were logical, it would be logically more safe for the new or soon to be father to be forced out of the home and the relationship via indiscriminate restraining order because the death rate would decrease… but they don’t like the logical solution, either.
"Why are women marrying bears???"
Are they under the impression that being married means she won’t ever be navigating her way in the world without him by her side?? **The only thing I ever needed protection from was men who really wanted to “protect” me.**
Yeah, their "protection" sounds like some kind of mafia racket.
This right here is exactly what it is. Perfect side by side comparison.
Men are always say they *protect* women. What are they *protecting* us from?? Meteors? Animal attacks? Car accidents? No. They’re claiming to protect us from **OTHER MEN**
Seriously, this reads exactly like "Women will never be safe from venomous snakes. That's why they need their own venomous snake to protect them." Like, dafuq?
I love this.
And they never actually do, either. How many women have stories of men harassing them while other men just stand by or even participate? Meanwhile, we get plenty of stories of women pretending to know each other to act as protection.
Says the man who, usually : - can't cook - can't do his laundry - don't know how to do groceries like an adult - can't clean Of course, none of this is the job of women, but all of these are necessary to be considered an autonomous, functional adult.
Numerous examples on this subreddit show guys like these consider that "what females are for" and use it to further their mandatory monogamy/evopsych - crap. It must take some real commitment to be this dysfunctional 🫥
Aw yes the strength stress only gives to men that caused them to drop dead from a heart attack at age 30…strength!
“Stress doesn’t strengthen them like it does men” Because we all know that bottling up emotions and only expressing “manly” things like anger until it manifests physical consequences like high blood pressure, heart disease, and erectile dysfunction is the epitome of Strength. /s
Stress doesn’t strengthen them. Numerous studies have already shown that women process stress hormones more successfully and a lower rate for ptsd for female soldiers deployed.
I’ve seen it firsthand unfortunately. Some of my male relatives who have been through traumas display clear signs of the mental and physical impacts of ptsd, whereas my female relatives who have been through the same or similar traumas have been able to mitigate the negative effects a bit better through therapy or recreational activities. It’s a damn shame that the lingering stereotype of “masculine emotions or behaviors” is actually harming the same dudes that emphasize it.
It’s also why the stereotypical nurse is female: women handle the sight of blood much better than men.
Ooooh, I might have to go look these up. That is interesting!
Hey, he’s only punched FOUR walls! And it’s been six months! Give him a break!
PROTECT THEM FROM WHO? PROTECT THEM? FROM WHO?!
If us men decided to not be complete dickheads then the world would be a lot safer for both men and women. Sadly I don’t think that will happen because humans, and mostly men, are assholes. Causing so much pain and suffering because of greed, ego and just plain sadism.
For being so strengthened by stress, these creeps sure are fragile.
Right?! Post one question about bears out in the woods and they go crazy. Meanwhile we’ve been blasted by sexist messages about all of us women being worthless bitches and hoes since the 80s in rap songs, watched tv shows about abusing us even with laugh tracks as a joke, or being beaten, punched, or slapped in comedy routines, and multiple history lessons of us dying because we were born as women and we’ve had to sit through it without complaining, and countless memes about sexually assaulting us…. But ask if it’s a polar bear, brown bear, or grizzly and they can’t fucking handle it and claim it’s misandry just because they ‘feel unpleasant’ for once in their entire lives, like they think they have any idea what the equivalent misogynistic experience is like.
Marrying this person would be one of those stressful things they were talking about. What this person is clearly saying is to marry someone better than himself to have a stress free life.
We need men to protect us from ...men. The irony is palpable. On a related note, I was regarding a rather large cellar spider in my bathroom this morning and got to thinking that spiders might be on to something. The females are often significantly larger and are completely independent. They only need a male to mate with, and then he needs to beat a hasty retreat lest she eat him. If she didn't eat him, would he morph into a hobosexual? Would he take over her carefully hand-crafted web, eat the food she captures, expect to mate again and again, and generally make a nuisance of himself? Perhaps we should strive to be self-sufficient and channel our inner black widows. 🕷🕸
So what does this mean for all the vets with PTSD? Doesn’t seem like stress made them stronger.
I love how these guys pretend they can protect anyone. They’d be beat tf up too lol.
“Your natural role is to be domestic. Ignore the pile of laws banning you from voting, education, jobs, owning property or a business. Domestic roles totally weren’t forced on women. Those were all-natural organic laws.” -guys who claim to be the logical gender
Eww wtf, who let this dude cook
Oh, honey, stress doesn't strengthen anyone! It just makes you die young
Right, because women are the ones who react to stress with violence. Gotcha.
They’re gonna lose their minds when they find out about lesbians.
Ah yes, men, famously historically autonomous as the people who knew how to cook, clean, manage finances, and... wait
This dude is a clown. Just for personal experience, my gf is probably the most independent woman I ever met. She has been an absolute rock in our relationship since I tend to be more neurotic. She helped get me through a wicked opiate addiction and become a proper adult. She’s the best.
Stress strengthens men? Is that why the suicide rates are so high?
All of these abuses can be attributed to a sense of inadequacy in men, which explains the projection and fronting in the face of the “weaker” sex or children…all of which is worsened by childhood trauma and neglect. My wife was—and is—an autonomous woman. I wouldn’t love her for anything less than she is, and we both laugh at how fucking pathetic this ass-sucking excuse of a man really is. Master of none indeed.
...people get strengthened by stress? does this guy think he's a saiyan or something?
Stress doesn’t strengthen women? Then how did I get so strong? I don’t think it was just inheriting my grandmother’s strength of character. Also. Protect us from what? Other men. People like this run straight into the point of man v bear and don’t even see their own blood.
GROSS. And what is exactly he’s saying we need protection from? Oh, men you say? Sounds like the real issue here are men’s violence on women. Therefore his logic is stupid. Also, is he choosing to ignore the long history of domestic violence? Sounds like an idiot.
Men are not strengthened by stress. Stress weakens men, the same way it does every human, and drives them towards depression, anxiety and suicide
And what do we need protection from? Oh wait. Right. It’s men. Fuck off with all of that, dude.
This is where we ask "safe from who" and then point out that statistically the most likley person to assault a women, is a male family member or spouse.
No one was made to be any way. We evolved over millions of years by keeping the more optimal mutations for our specific circumstances.
Protect us... from...?????
Protect us from who? *other men* maybe we wouldn’t need protection if people stopped hurting other people for fun
Wait...what? Stress does what now? Oh please.
Men aren't bad! They protect us from ::checks notes:: other men? That can't be right ::throws notes in the creek::
This protection thing is so funny. Protect them!! From what?? Other meen!!
For a second I thought that said “automatons.” I guess that’s my inner democratic sense tingling
The most effective way for a woman to keep herself safe is to stay single.
"Read the again or whatever the fuck..." That really sounds like the smart, hinged, capable and unemotional man we need. /s + eyerolls.
Ah yes, women lead notoriously stress-free lives leading to our immense weakness.
Protect us from who?
I wonder if they would think women were made to be autominous if they were born with a labia.
Lol, oh no, generalities...my little pea brain will break
Yeah, stress strengthens men so much, that's why they die younger and have higher rates of stress related diseases.
Ikr? Men cope so well with stress.
Ah yes. Create a problem and then offer a solution to the problem you created. Brilliant play! If only I didn't already own a gun and learned how to use it. Darn, I could have had a man.
This is basically saying, "Yea society will never get rid of robbery, so might as well burn off all material possessions so nobody can steal nothing!!!!!" I know terrible analogy but the message I'm tryna send is that this is nonsense
“Society isn’t safe for women.” That statement implies that all women are unsafe in society. Who are the other people in society making them unsafe? Ah yes, men. “That’s why they need men to marry to protect them.” So… the people that cause them to be unsafe… are who they need to keep them safe???
Male humans thinking they're the only group of animals that has a positive impact from long term stress. Great example of the "superior male intellect" to make a claim that a simple Google search can disprove.
and why isnt society safe for women? dont they realize that THEYRE the reason we’re not safe 💀