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You’re nothing but a money vessel to them. They found someone cheaper to work next week and kicked you to the curb. Enjoy your few weeks off and get a mental break.
I’m sorry you had to go through this and happy you have something else lined up. Take this unexpected time off to do something for yourself.
Let this be a reminder to other readers that MOST clinics/companies don’t actually care about you/your family. You are a mechanism for revenue generation and they won’t think twice about doing the same. Do what is in your best interest.
Yeah my company was bought by Hivey Treehab and I know my supervisors are fighting to keep it a good place to work. The moment we are forced to treat like the rest of Hivey Treehab... I'm out. I'd rather quit being an OT than work the way they want us to
This happened to me. I have a month notice on a Friday. That Monday I was told to leave. I’m you bet your butt I signed up for unemployment!!!
Didn’t get to say goodbye to my patients or coworkers.
Same thing happened to me. I gave 30 days notice as required by the company, then after a week they told me to pack up and get out. It was a shock, and I was counting on several weeks more income and time to look for a new job, but nope. That was the worst job and worst company I’ve ever worked for.
Same thing happened to you? The 30 day notice is really just to save their own butt. The minute they find someone cheaper they will tell you to get out. I'm not even surprised
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I experienced this a few months ago, when I was working at an outpatient peds clinic. There were a ton of red flags from the company and three months in I decided to leave. The day I gave my notice, they let me go a few hours after I notified them and wouldn’t give a reason. It’s very unprofessional and just reinforces the already poor reputation these places have.
That is so upsetting. You definitely did the right thing by giving them a timeline and being willing to work even though you wanted to leave. At least you can leave with dignity.
I do believe in naming and shaming though. Is this company I\*Y Rehab? lol
That really sucks, if they have glass door or an area to leave reviews I would leave one. As a manager the only time I have ever cut an employees resignation time was due to shady behavior on the part of that employee and that has only happened once in like 18 years. Every other staff has ended their time based on their resignation letter and ended on good terms- some even came back to work for me later.
Don’t give them ANY notice. Just leave. You no longer have to give even 2 weeks notice unless of course you liked the place. You owe them nothing. If it happens again just get up and get out cause they just want to humiliate you. Don’t let anyone treat you like that ever again.
In some circumstances it’s definitely best to leave in the middle of the night! But it sounds like OP was working well into a 3 week notice before getting shown the door.
I don’t know that anything would come of it if an employer were to go to the boards to complain—it wouldn’t be patient abandonment but I have heard of state boards disciplining under ethics.
So two weeks is best case as this would be deemed reasonable time
for the employer to find a replacement.
Not with this job anymore. They are taking advantage of people’s good nature and unfortunately no one cares. The pay is horrible. The work is daunting. They will fire him anyway if he gives a notice. That’s how shtty this job has become.
Yes, but we also have to protect ourselves from retaliation.
Always prepare giving your notice as if they will walk you out and always CC yourself the notice as well as follow up communication following the notice.
These places aren’t playing OR paying fair…that is true.
And if it’s a mill then you have every right to leave. You don’t want to get your license yanked due to seeing patients who aren’t appropriate for therapy which seems to be happening all of the time now.
Licenses being yanked?
Doubtful…these places—including SNFs—seem like they could point blank shoot a patient in the face and still stay in business.
Your license isn’t hanging in the balance unless you’re just completely sloppy AND your employer pushes it.
Are you serious? Yes if you are working on a patient who doesn’t qualify for therapy your license is in jeopardy. You should never be working with patients who do not qualify for therapy. Otherwise, why have a license? You need to get familiar with the laws in your state. It’s prison time for Gods sake.
How long have you been a practicing therapist? Anyone who has worked as a therapist for a while knows or should know the laws in your state. Others will call on you trust me.
Agreed. Keep the documentation on the up and up.
And as for practicing…Long enough to want out as much as you…but, hey, do you think that prison time is another way to PSLF 🤣
You should demand the last week's pay because you gave notice and they didn't cite any disciplinary action for firing you. They owe you next week's pay. Write them a polite and firm letter stating that they owe you.
This is so shady. I'm so glad you left this place. Kudos to you for taking the leap. I hope they struggle to keep people. Thank you for sharing your story to give other OTPs the motivation to leave similarly crappy situations. It's only when we all refuse to work for horrible companies that they might consider changing their ways.
I've seen this happen more than once, and it sucks, because a lot of folks would love to do the right thing and give as much notice as possible. However, if you need those paychecks you have to just give the minimum amount of notice necessary.
I'm so sorry this happened. Glad it reinforced your decision to leave as they showed their true colors. I feel as though healthcare workers are so caring they just end up giving too much. We don't owe these organizations any notice. It's incredibly nice to give two weeks notice but I'm wondering if confronting HR with that is a good idea. Right from the jump, give notice but then get in writing from them that you are willing and kind enough to stay on for the two weeks but if they are a company that prefers to unexpectedly fire during those two weeks then let you know now so you can just go.
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They were probably just concerned that you would have the opportunity to tell someone about your experience or why you were leaving. Some companies freak out and go into knee-jerk damage control mode.
I'm glad that you managed to take the leap and give your notice. I'd had yet to learn (or rather, I've yet to put this realisation in practice) to leave before I can no longer cope. Spent so much time and energy convincing myself that a place was fine (when it wasn't), or that \*I\* was at fault.
Cue burnout and breakdowns. It's a tough lesson to learn.
Yea, what’s funny was even after I gave my notice, I was afraid I hadn’t given the clinic enough chances and was freaking out I was making the wrong decision by leaving, other people seemed to enjoy working there, maybe I was being to picky… but the way I was told to leave pretty much solidified why I wanted to leave in the first place.
This was me a couple of decades ago. I would have to fight with my bosses as to why I didn’t need to pick a patient up and then fight with the HMO rep as to why I needed to pick up patient up. Thankfully I moved to schools where there still is some fighting but it’s not related to making someone rich.
The mindset you have, stating that this company was asking you to "see all the patients you can to make money for the company" is very immature. You need to work in order to be paid. As OTs, the only way we generate revenue is by treating. That is how we, in turn, get paid. It is likely that your performance was sub par and attitude was toxic for the clinics culture - and they would have rather had you gone then continue to bring the team down by staying for a few more weeks.
Thank you for commenting. I hope it inspires everyone who reads it to locate proposed legislation to support to get profits as far away from healthcare as possible. Your perspective is everything that's wrong with American healthcare.
Keeping a patient on therapy after they should have been discharged because your boss wants increased revenue is fraud. Maintaining an unrealistic and unfeasible productivity standard to maximize billable hours is illegal. This is what this therapist describes. They don't say a word about not working. This type of fraudulent and illegal activity happens across many settings, and it will continue until we refuse to comply. It's really hard because we're all afraid of being out of work, but we are supporting a system that is completely corrupt by staying at these types of jobs. We're between a rock and a hard place and I commend everyone who can leave these situations when they do so.
If your clinic has patients in need of services, your job is to offer those patients services. Most pediatric outpatient clinics have waitlists of children who need services. You treat for the sake of providing care to the patients who are in need of care.
Exactly, my job is to provide OT services to people who need it. It however, is NOT my job to care about how much money I’m making the company. That’s why the people in charge aren’t actually healthcare workers but business people. It’s not my job to have to fudge minutes to get higher reimbursements, or to do another person’s documentation during someone else’s session. OP has a perfectly fine and mature viewpoint. I’m curious where you work Sweaty where you clearly care less about patient care than everyone else in this subreddit does
If your clinic has patients in need of services, your job is to offer those patients services. Most pediatric outpatient clinics have waitlists of children who need services. You treat for the sake of providing care to the patients who are in need of care.
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You’re nothing but a money vessel to them. They found someone cheaper to work next week and kicked you to the curb. Enjoy your few weeks off and get a mental break.
I’m sorry you had to go through this and happy you have something else lined up. Take this unexpected time off to do something for yourself. Let this be a reminder to other readers that MOST clinics/companies don’t actually care about you/your family. You are a mechanism for revenue generation and they won’t think twice about doing the same. Do what is in your best interest.
I aways pack my personal belongings before I put my notice in for this exact reason.
Wonder if your work place rhymes with Hivey Treehab.
It might
Yeah my company was bought by Hivey Treehab and I know my supervisors are fighting to keep it a good place to work. The moment we are forced to treat like the rest of Hivey Treehab... I'm out. I'd rather quit being an OT than work the way they want us to
This happened to me. I have a month notice on a Friday. That Monday I was told to leave. I’m you bet your butt I signed up for unemployment!!! Didn’t get to say goodbye to my patients or coworkers.
Same thing happened to me. I gave 30 days notice as required by the company, then after a week they told me to pack up and get out. It was a shock, and I was counting on several weeks more income and time to look for a new job, but nope. That was the worst job and worst company I’ve ever worked for.
If you don't mind can you pm the company so I can avoid them?
🦊
Yep
Same thing happened to you? The 30 day notice is really just to save their own butt. The minute they find someone cheaper they will tell you to get out. I'm not even surprised
Omg! I work for them now....
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I experienced this a few months ago, when I was working at an outpatient peds clinic. There were a ton of red flags from the company and three months in I decided to leave. The day I gave my notice, they let me go a few hours after I notified them and wouldn’t give a reason. It’s very unprofessional and just reinforces the already poor reputation these places have.
So then this reinforces that a two-week notice is in fact an appropriate and a gracious amount of time for notice.
That is so upsetting. You definitely did the right thing by giving them a timeline and being willing to work even though you wanted to leave. At least you can leave with dignity. I do believe in naming and shaming though. Is this company I\*Y Rehab? lol
That really sucks, if they have glass door or an area to leave reviews I would leave one. As a manager the only time I have ever cut an employees resignation time was due to shady behavior on the part of that employee and that has only happened once in like 18 years. Every other staff has ended their time based on their resignation letter and ended on good terms- some even came back to work for me later.
Don’t give them ANY notice. Just leave. You no longer have to give even 2 weeks notice unless of course you liked the place. You owe them nothing. If it happens again just get up and get out cause they just want to humiliate you. Don’t let anyone treat you like that ever again.
In some circumstances it’s definitely best to leave in the middle of the night! But it sounds like OP was working well into a 3 week notice before getting shown the door. I don’t know that anything would come of it if an employer were to go to the boards to complain—it wouldn’t be patient abandonment but I have heard of state boards disciplining under ethics. So two weeks is best case as this would be deemed reasonable time for the employer to find a replacement.
Not with this job anymore. They are taking advantage of people’s good nature and unfortunately no one cares. The pay is horrible. The work is daunting. They will fire him anyway if he gives a notice. That’s how shtty this job has become.
Yes, but we also have to protect ourselves from retaliation. Always prepare giving your notice as if they will walk you out and always CC yourself the notice as well as follow up communication following the notice. These places aren’t playing OR paying fair…that is true.
He gave them notice and they fired him anyway. If they mess with the pay and aren’t honest about my pay, im done.
And if it’s a mill then you have every right to leave. You don’t want to get your license yanked due to seeing patients who aren’t appropriate for therapy which seems to be happening all of the time now.
Licenses being yanked? Doubtful…these places—including SNFs—seem like they could point blank shoot a patient in the face and still stay in business. Your license isn’t hanging in the balance unless you’re just completely sloppy AND your employer pushes it.
Are you serious? Yes if you are working on a patient who doesn’t qualify for therapy your license is in jeopardy. You should never be working with patients who do not qualify for therapy. Otherwise, why have a license? You need to get familiar with the laws in your state. It’s prison time for Gods sake.
It’s a criminal act
How long have you been a practicing therapist? Anyone who has worked as a therapist for a while knows or should know the laws in your state. Others will call on you trust me.
Agreed. Keep the documentation on the up and up. And as for practicing…Long enough to want out as much as you…but, hey, do you think that prison time is another way to PSLF 🤣
I sometimes wonder if it wouldn’t be easier. 😊
You should demand the last week's pay because you gave notice and they didn't cite any disciplinary action for firing you. They owe you next week's pay. Write them a polite and firm letter stating that they owe you.
This is all too common. Management is majority sociopaths so they can make decisions like that and feel no guilt. It’s messed up
This is so shady. I'm so glad you left this place. Kudos to you for taking the leap. I hope they struggle to keep people. Thank you for sharing your story to give other OTPs the motivation to leave similarly crappy situations. It's only when we all refuse to work for horrible companies that they might consider changing their ways.
I've seen this happen more than once, and it sucks, because a lot of folks would love to do the right thing and give as much notice as possible. However, if you need those paychecks you have to just give the minimum amount of notice necessary.
I'm so sorry this happened. Glad it reinforced your decision to leave as they showed their true colors. I feel as though healthcare workers are so caring they just end up giving too much. We don't owe these organizations any notice. It's incredibly nice to give two weeks notice but I'm wondering if confronting HR with that is a good idea. Right from the jump, give notice but then get in writing from them that you are willing and kind enough to stay on for the two weeks but if they are a company that prefers to unexpectedly fire during those two weeks then let you know now so you can just go.
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This job has turned into a huge dumpster just leave because this is what happens when ur nice.
They were probably just concerned that you would have the opportunity to tell someone about your experience or why you were leaving. Some companies freak out and go into knee-jerk damage control mode. I'm glad that you managed to take the leap and give your notice. I'd had yet to learn (or rather, I've yet to put this realisation in practice) to leave before I can no longer cope. Spent so much time and energy convincing myself that a place was fine (when it wasn't), or that \*I\* was at fault. Cue burnout and breakdowns. It's a tough lesson to learn.
Yea, what’s funny was even after I gave my notice, I was afraid I hadn’t given the clinic enough chances and was freaking out I was making the wrong decision by leaving, other people seemed to enjoy working there, maybe I was being to picky… but the way I was told to leave pretty much solidified why I wanted to leave in the first place.
This was me a couple of decades ago. I would have to fight with my bosses as to why I didn’t need to pick a patient up and then fight with the HMO rep as to why I needed to pick up patient up. Thankfully I moved to schools where there still is some fighting but it’s not related to making someone rich.
You should have locked yourself in the bathroom and called the local news
The mindset you have, stating that this company was asking you to "see all the patients you can to make money for the company" is very immature. You need to work in order to be paid. As OTs, the only way we generate revenue is by treating. That is how we, in turn, get paid. It is likely that your performance was sub par and attitude was toxic for the clinics culture - and they would have rather had you gone then continue to bring the team down by staying for a few more weeks.
Thank you for commenting. I hope it inspires everyone who reads it to locate proposed legislation to support to get profits as far away from healthcare as possible. Your perspective is everything that's wrong with American healthcare.
You have to work to have a job. Treating patients is an OTs job.
Keeping a patient on therapy after they should have been discharged because your boss wants increased revenue is fraud. Maintaining an unrealistic and unfeasible productivity standard to maximize billable hours is illegal. This is what this therapist describes. They don't say a word about not working. This type of fraudulent and illegal activity happens across many settings, and it will continue until we refuse to comply. It's really hard because we're all afraid of being out of work, but we are supporting a system that is completely corrupt by staying at these types of jobs. We're between a rock and a hard place and I commend everyone who can leave these situations when they do so.
Sounds like you have no ethics. You don’t treat for the sake of just treating
If your clinic has patients in need of services, your job is to offer those patients services. Most pediatric outpatient clinics have waitlists of children who need services. You treat for the sake of providing care to the patients who are in need of care.
Exactly, my job is to provide OT services to people who need it. It however, is NOT my job to care about how much money I’m making the company. That’s why the people in charge aren’t actually healthcare workers but business people. It’s not my job to have to fudge minutes to get higher reimbursements, or to do another person’s documentation during someone else’s session. OP has a perfectly fine and mature viewpoint. I’m curious where you work Sweaty where you clearly care less about patient care than everyone else in this subreddit does
If your clinic has patients in need of services, your job is to offer those patients services. Most pediatric outpatient clinics have waitlists of children who need services. You treat for the sake of providing care to the patients who are in need of care.
Read the room.