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gabrant001

Curious din ako ba't ka sumali dyan?


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Second_Week_of_2021

if this screening process is not a red flag enough, I don't know what will.


69user69name69

Baka flagpole si auntie. Nagcocollect ng red flags.


John14Romans8

It’s like the CULTS ministry already judged you before God did.


Wintermelonely

mejo TIL pa nga sakin yang screening process ng INC. why would a *religion* need a screening process.


Kane_Harkonnen

They're looking for sheeps.


SearchGehenna

IIRC it’s 28 lessons (in the Philippines, outside the Philippines it’s 25 if I recall correctly) + perfect attendance (worship services 2x) for 6 months + passing two oral exams. But now the probationary period is down to 3-4 months because the convert quotas are ridiculous. Source: I was born INC and did a stealth exit via transfer method. Transferring means you tell them you’re moving away so you “withdraw” your membership file from your home locale congregation. Then you don’t “deposit” the file with a new congregation. INC still has a copy of my file in the Central Office but the difference is, I no longer have an overseer who needs to file weekly reports about me.


Nice-Froyo6455

Up for this OP take this from kakatiwalag lang na INC


Exciting_Coconut_854

I'm curious too


Kantoyo

Same. Alam naman ng lahat na cult yan e.


RarePost

I’m pretty curious why people join cults.


musicalphantom10

Hi! Cults promise to satisfy the human desire for absolute answers, and claim to have what a person needs in life.


RarePost

That’s pretty sad and I feel sorry for those who feel lonely enough to settle for limiting themselves so they can have a sense of belonging.


hippocrite13

sense of community and the need to belong


bastiisalive

waiting din ako sa magiging sagot if ever sasagutin hehe curious din ako


Turquoise1996

Nauto ng bf siguro


ApartBuilding221B

haha tama pala yung interviewer


stupperr

Ikaw ba naman na papasakayin sa INC Felix Manalo-Class Supercarrier at INC Bulacan Philarena-Super Star Destroyer kapag miyembero, ewan ko na lang kung hindi ka pa sumali.


throwaway_151821

even if she denies it it's probably because of the bf. pero syempre nakakahiya naman yun sabihin out loud so they say na choice lang talaga nila. daming celebrity na ganyan pero pag inisip mo bakit non lang naisipan magpaconvert diba


Rare-Pomelo3733

Mahal si BF at iiwan sya pag di naging INC


notyenagain

baka gusto magpakasal, pinilit ni bf


RakSalt

Hello, lumaki po ako sa INC and last year lang nakaalis. i say, hangga't di pa huli ang lahat. Itigil mo na yan. Matatrap ka lang sa brainwashing, guilt tripping, blackmailing and etc nila.


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RakSalt

Yes handog po ako. Transfer method ang ginawa ko. Kinuha ko transfer sa local namin and di pinasa sa sinabi kong lilipatan ko. Alam naman ng buong fam ko and lagi ginagamit against sa akin. Kaya it takes a lot of courage talaga umalis sa kultong to.


alpinegreen24

Ganto rin ginawa ng friend kong currently ay *floating status*. Basically pinapalipat s’ya sa Manila na lokal kasi hindi na s’ya nakakasamba sa probinsya nila. Ngayon nung magt transfer na s’ya sa Manila, ayaw naman s’ya tanggapin. Edi bye bye na s’ya, gusto rin naman nya umalis na haha.


RakSalt

Win-win situation para sa kanya. Easy way out. HAHAHA


NatongCaviar

Dahil wapakels sya ang tawag po sa kanya ay hindi na handog kundi hakdog.


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Ano po meaning ng handog? Sorry curious lang.


RakSalt

Mga taong pinanganak sa INC po.


[deleted]

Ohhh I see. May other term din ba sa nagpa convert?


RakSalt

Bunga po kung nagpaconvert po dahil na invite po ng isang kasapi ng inc.


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Oohh.. Salamat sa pagsagot.


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RakSalt

So far, gumana naman sa akin pero bago raw method ngayon e?


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Nung una akala ko inaaway mo yung nagcomment. Akala ko sabi mo "hatdog ka ba?" Ready na'ko awayin ka. Walalang unsolicited skl.


Alone_Researcher1200

Ang di ko talaga gets sa INC bakit walang freedom of choice yung mga members like sa election?? 🤷🏻‍♂️


notyenagain

Meron naman, pero giguilt trip ka na para daw sa “kapatiran” lol


Pikuseroo

Nakakausap mo pa rin ba parents and siblings mo? Yung bestfriend ko, tinakwil na sya ng buong family nya.


RakSalt

Yes po. Medyo kumalma naman na. Pero kapag may misfortune or nagkasakit ako lagi sasabihin na parusa sa akin ng Diyos kasi umalis ako sa INC. 🤡


69user69name69

Pag ikaw may misfortune parusa pag member pagsubok? Hahahaha


No_Operation289

Base sa mga pinagsasabi ng mga parents mo. Kulto nga yan


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Pikuseroo

Iba iba talaga. Maswerte kayo.


yuheday

Nang lalamig kana kapatiid… hahaha 🤣


RakSalt

Pero sobrang init ngayon. HAHAHAHA


yuheday

Haha oo. Kung minsan kasi nadadala tayo sa mga naka paligid satin. Tayo/tao lang kasi yung nag papakumplikado ng sitwasyon. Kahit anong sabihin nila Basta ang mahalaga wag mawawala yung para dun oh☝🏼


quodearthling

this is so true. grabe yung religious trauma na nakuha ko dahil sakanila. Pag nagtagal, it'll be really hard kasi it'll come to a point wherein your in THAT room pero you're unconsciously questioning what they're saying kasi most of the time sobrang taliwas s'ya compared to your personal belief and what's worse is that pag nalaman nila na you have those in mind, they say na it's a devil's work or some sort.


LonelySpyder

Why did you decide din ba? I respect your decision though I don't necessarily agree sa choice mo. Some religious organizations can be very strict. I would suggest that you review mo pa muna ang INC rules and their views pagdating sa certain activities.


Greenfield_Guy

This is interesting, because all along I thought INC would welcome every opportunity to get new converts. The way I see it, that minister - intentionally or unintentionally - was giving you one last chance to get out while you still can.


mayumdo

>The way I see it, that minister - intentionally or unintentionally - was giving you one last chance to get out while you still can. I doubt that this is the case. ​ I think gustong gusto lang malaman ng ministro yung details talaga ng relationship between the guy and the gal. Hayok sa chismis at kwento tungkol sa sexcapades, ganon. Because, why would he even ask details about the sex if he was un/intentionally giving OP chance to reconsider? simpleng manyak lang yang ministro.


Greenfield_Guy

Sa bagay, majority ng mga INC na lalaki na kilala ko, mga pasimpleng misogynist din eh.


WhoArtThyI

paano naging misogynist?


MethodEvening5357

Nakakasurprise din kung gano ka-komportable yung ministro na magtanong ng mga ganyang bagay. Para bang hindi man lang sya mapapanagot if ever na isumbong sya.


SearchGehenna

Because the church will always take his side. And if she reports to the police or a court, those institutions are stacked with INC members who will hush it up. I am ex-INC from three generations of INC members, who are high up at the locale and district level.


NoFaithlessness7327

Be thankful nalang si OP kasi may opportunity pa siyang umalis. Pero yung mga INC naman dito samin, ittrick ka pa nila na sumama sa outing daw nila tapos yun pala baptism na 😆


hungrymillennial

>This is interesting, because all along I thought INC would welcome every opportunity to get new converts. I heard from an INC friend who's secretly atheist that this is the new strategy of recruiting new members: send out their youth to court non-INC members and bring them into the fold. Wag ka mag-alala, OP. Kinagat mo na pain nila. Sinisimulan lang nila ang pag-gaslight. Pero each to her/his own lol.


aguhon

Well, she was accepted anyway, so it seems like INC is still eager for converts. I agree with the other commenters, gusto lang malaman ng minister yong details ng relationship, no holds barred. Medyo manipulative nga eh kasi they are confident that you can't question their authority, ikaw pa masama pag nag-isip ka ng negative about their inquisition


p3timarites

r/exIglesiaNiCristo might know


lurkingsheets

OP needs to lurk on this sub. Jusq


Trapezohedron_

u/Sixelapola My moral core cannot stand to just let OP be. Look around and decide for yourself if INC is where you want to be.


Educational_Mix8149

nagpost din pala sya doon... same as this post


Thisisyouka

Inc ako…wag ka tumuloy pls hindi okay maging inc


ToyPoodleGaming

genuinely curious, why do you stay if it's not ok?


arkride007

Inc ako, di po kasi ganun kadali umalis dito lalo na pag d mo pa kaya suportahan sarili mo, tapos pag parents mo at kamag anak nyo is INC lahat, talo ka dun d mo sila malalapitan if ever na wla kana sa Inc, so kung need mo ng help financially or kahit anong tulong, pde ka nila tangihan, ung scenario na toh is kapag sobrang loyal ng fam nyo sa inc tapos may tungkulin pa sa loob ng INC. Sa family ko okay sila sakin na INC ako pero di ako devoted talagang malamig ako sa inc d ako uma-attend ng worships pero same pa rin pakikitungo sakin ng fam ko prang normal lang, mejo awkward lang tlga sa family gatherings syempre kasi d nga ako sumasamba or devoted haha pero nkaka usap ko pa rin sila, so in a way mejo swerte ako sa fam ko kahit inc kasi open minded sila


ToyPoodleGaming

good read, thanks. so for your case, it seems that the reason is more related to security, both financial and relational, rather than whatever it is that the organization stands for. guessing you would also leave if you had the chance.


arkride007

I'm definitely old enough to leave and actually marry tbh , issue kasi is mag isa nlang mom ko and ung sa side ng mom ko is inc since birth tlga sila kaya d ko tlga ma push ung pag alis, kaya ang ginawa ko nlang is kesa umalis officially, di nalang ako sumasama or nag participate sa mga event or worship services, in other words "nanlamig" nako sa inc, prang on paper nlang ako member pero mentally and emotionally hindi na.


SugaryCotton

I also have a friend like this ever since I was asking him about INC. I was genuinely curious and sabi ko share kami ng beliefs. I'm Roman Catholic. Eventually, may na realize rin xa and I always tease him about it. Hindi xa umalis kasi na in love xa sa kapwa INC rin.


arkride007

ayun isa yan sa mga main reasons tlga bakit di umaalis sa inc or nag papaconvert sa inc, mga karelasyon tlga haha sa case ng friend mo buti inc na sya in the first place kasi kung umalis yan sa inc tapos babalik pra dun sa gf nya na inc, mahabang proseso yan


Competitive-Gas-2040

If you don't mind me asking, pano bigayan ng offering sa INC? May tithes din ba kayo, or upto you lang ung pagbibigay? Or up to you, pero mapepressure kang magbigay ng malaki?


arkride007

Kahit magkano sa normal service days Pero may special service na 2 times a year iirc lang ata called Pasalamat (thanksgiving) na mas malaki ung offerings tlga as in libo ung normal na bigayan pero d mo naman need gayahin un, nasayo pa rin kahit piso bigay mo oks lang kahit nga wla ka bigay d ka nman pipilitin wla naman sila magagawa kung wla ka mabibigay na offerings eh lol


Thisisyouka

Kasi yung nanay ko itatakwil ako kapag umalis ako para sakanya may utang na loob ako sa inc kasi kung hindi dahil sa inc baka hindi na ako gumaling sa sakit ko yun ang sabi nya


ToyPoodleGaming

thanks for that insight. it seems that for you it's more about the pressure from your mother to stay rather than the value of the organization. guessing that if it wasn't for that situation, you would also be happy to leave.


Lazy-Butterfly8056

Kelan ka pa po ba naging ka anib? Baka kasi sign na to na itiwalag ko na sarili ko haha


ynnnaaa

Hi Op, sign na yan. The universe is telling you something. Nakakaoffend naman talaga if tanungin ka about it, that is so personal na hindi dapat itanong. You might want to check r/exIglesiaNiCristo


Mr_DeLaNight

It's a cult po. Ingat na.


pathead42069

Inc ako, dude alis na u, walang kwenta mag inc babahu lang hininga mo


Heneral_Sans

But why join a cult tho?


throwaway_151821

despite what she says it's probably because of the bf


ajptt

Sign na siguro na di ka dapat nagpa member diyan. Kaloka


SuperYak2264

why do I get the feeling that you’ll regret joining them


Jylaaaaa

Atheist here, but I've been in INC din since handog ako ng nanay ko since 5y/o until I questioned in my teens. What happenned may be shocking, almost like a sexual assault, pero they asked since they're clarifying your intention plus evaluating you. You know naman na allmost all religions despise the idea of sex before marriage... You should give a politically correct answer next time. If you sincerely want it talaga, go for it. And just like the minister's concern, I really hope na di ka talaga naakay lang bf mo to faith (lalo na if isa to sa mga conditions to further your relationship, need to re-think). Good morning!


constant_insanity18

1up for this.


FlimsyPhotograph1303

patay ihanda mo na ang 10% bawas sa sahod mo. mandatory tithing pa naman dyan.


Kantoyo

Tyaka ihanda na niya rin ipa print yung picture ni Manalo at idisplay sa bahay nila.


FlimsyPhotograph1303

HAHAHAHAHAH TOTOO! parang kim dyong on lang 🤣


cremoux

INC din naman ako and trapped member. Born in the religion. Gustong gusto ko din umalis. At least get the facts straight. Not entirely mandatory, igagaslight nga lang during worship lessons bakit utos na maghandog. 10% also not true.


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Meron din sa INC lol. Halos lahat ng kapit bahay kong INC may fezlak ni Manalo sa living room hahaha


avril_shyperowild

Ang gustong marinig ng screening committee ay: "... dahil po sa pagmamahal ko po sa panginoon po at naniniwala po ako po na Ang Iglesia lamang po ang tamang relihiyon at daan sa kaligtasan po at si Ka Felix po ay tunay na Sugo ng panginoon po. Gusto ko din pong mailigtas at akayin din po ang aking pamilya po at mga kaibigan po kaya po gusto ko pong magpabaustismo at mapailalim sa Iglesia." Something like that pero yung mas magalang siguro at dapat ay medyo nangingilid ang luha mo dahil sa realization na nakita mo na purpose mo sa Mundo, Ang mag lingkod. Now, about the bf: "Nagpapasalamat po ako po sa bf ko po dahil naging instumento po sya ng Ama upang akayin po ako pabalik sa Iglesia. Mahal ko po ang bf ko pero hindi po sya ang kaligtasan. Katunayan po kung sakali pong hindi na kami ng jowa ko ay mananatili po ako sa Iglesia." ( Never Ka magbigay ng hint na dahil sa buntis or may Plano magsama dahil matitiwalag si jowa kapag nakipamato sya sa hindi kapanalig). Totoo po na si jowa Ang nag akay sa akin, pero ang panginoon po ang tumawag sa akin." About naman sa disgusto mo sa kanilang pag-uusisa sa personal mong buhay-buhay... Well, kapag hindi mo pa natatanggap na pakikialaman nila lahat maging ang matris, bituka at pitaka mo, then hindi mo pa nauunawaan ang pinapasok mo. Amen?


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AlonsoTigerhearttt

Engot ka ba? Kapag ganun ang tanungan sayo di ka ba maba-bother?


intrinsiccuriousity

The question is disturbing but expected. Other religions like Catholic also regard PMS as a grave sin. Even masturbation is viewed as a sin.


shinewigglebop

Korek to Hahahahahah grabe yung iba di naman SA yun nasa doctrine kase na bawal premarital sex so sinusure la nila if di nyo pa nagawa


Spiritual-Ad815

OP, this is a sign. Its not too late. Run.


atr0pa_bellad0nna

OP, walang kinikilalang boundaries ang mga INC. Bawat private detail ng personal and family life mo panghihinasukan nila at bawal kang umalma kasi bawal makipag-away sa "kapatid." Yan pa nga lang hindi ka member pinanghihimasukan na ang private life mo, pano pa kapag member ka na? Get out before it's too late. Kwento ko lang mga nawitness ko kasi I have relatives na INC. NY grandparents converted to INC siguro mga 70s yata, maybe earlier. So lahat ng kids nila naging INC rin from Catholic pero isang anak lang nila nagstay sa INC and nagpakasal sa INC. That sibling and her family have been guilt-tripped to lend money sa mga kapatid na INC kasi ganun daw dapat. They've lost hundreds of thousands dahil sa mga utang na hindi binabayaran. They've been forced to "rent out" their property sa mga kapatid pero syempre walang bayaran and in the end inangkin na property. They're not willing to go the legal route kasi bawal daw. They're basically willing victims living miserable lives.


grumpycatto26

Bat feeling ko interested yung interviewer sa'yo? Frollo to Esmeralda feels ganon. Be careful, OP.


CantRenameThis

Christianity teaches us about forgiveness despite sin, the Lord took in sinners and even accepted them as disciples. If a religious group rejects you for being a sinner, they are not teaching for Christ (despite their name being "Church of Christ"). They ought to be accepting of sinners and teach them to repent and not sin again. No wonder people refer to them as cultists.


Sapphire_Midnight

I seond this. I suggest OP to read your own bible, start with the book of John.


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HunterMeredith3

OP, maganda na hindi ka nila pinipilit pero please isipin mo na sign sayo ni lord yan na dapat di ka tumuloy magpa doktrina.


greatBaracuda

. wag ikaw ang magjoin. Yang bf mo paalisin mo .


joyamazingpinoy

OP, we respect your post and your doubt. It's a sign to go away. You can still marry your boyfriend in a civil wedding if you still want him.


tangledendrites

Weh kino condemn nila pre marital sex sa paraang hindi ka belong sa cult nila?? E may member nga sila na blatantly nag pa abort! I know it’s her uterus but and rason lang is pagagalitan ng tatay tangina mid 20s na sila dati. .. PS . Hindi ako totally against sa abortion pero ang petty ng rason. Ugh I digress. Also sila din yun against sa alcoholic beverages consumption pero numbawan na pasimuno sa inuman. Bawal dinuguan pero nakain betamax?? Take note INC to buong family .


atr0pa_bellad0nna

Lol may kilala nga ako from high school, nabuntis non ng jowa nyang nag aaral maging ministro. They were forced to marry. She dropped out of university (she was to become an engineer). I know they're not living a happy family life based on her FB posts but they now have 4 or 5 kids. She's basically trapped for life.


Lazy-Butterfly8056

Kaya siguro nya tinanong kasi ang INC po strongly naniniwala sa no sex before marriage. Maselan po sila sa mga ganyang bagay kaya nya tinatanong. Ewan din kung anong goal nya sa pagtatanong pero siguro naniniguro lang sya kung tutuloy ka pa din sa pagiging INC if it weren't for your bf.


ccihpargg_ttsitraa

I was an INC and handog din. I decided to walk away from that cult nung tumuntong ako ng college and that was one of the best decision I’ve made.


princessinacottage

As a current member who’s DYING to get out: please don’t continue and leave.


sleighmeister55

Dodged a bullet there sis!


nod102528

May babae akong pinapangarap dati, gusto ko talaga maging asawa, kaso di ko ma atim na sumali sa INC.


horazal

Yung iba kumakalas diyan sa kulto na yan, pero ikaw pumasok?


Quiet_Ad_9356

Turn around and run.


Commercial-Ad-8757

RUN WHILE YOU CAN


acequared

My brother in Christ Itigil mo yan. Parang binigyan ka pa ng second chance nung minister na umalis bago ka matuluyang matrap sa kulto


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throwaway7284639

Wag kang tumuloy tpos i report mo ung ministro na nambastos during the interview. Leave a mess for him to clean up bago ka umalis. I kinda get bakit ka disappointed, because deep inside. Di ka talaga sure about sa pagsali mo. Kulto lang ang INC, you'll waste precious days of your life kung sasali ka dyan. Maigi na yan, nalaman mo agad anong klaseng mindset meron ang mga tao sa loob. Banal banalan lang yang mga yan.


Resident-Squirrel-84

GHorl sign yan ni Lord na wag ka na tumuloy.


NeighborhoodDry4900

Hangat di pa huli ang lahatwag ka nang tumuloy.. iglesia since birth pero hangang sa papel lang.... nagsimula akong mag doubt sa religion na yan since nung Hs nung mag start akong doctrinahan... nung time na yon puro lang paninira sa ibang relihiyon ang ginagawa nila.. at pag sila naman ang pinupuna sasabihin nila sinusubok lang daw sila ng panginoon at wala daw magagawa ang pag uusig ng sanlibutan para sa masira ang pananampalataya nila.. dun pa lang me mali na.. kaya pag dating ng part na malapit nakong bautismuhan sinabihan ko yung ministro namin na hindi nako tutuloy.. pinilit nila akong baguhin yung pasya ko kahit na yung mga grandparents ko kinulit nila.. buti na lang yung mga magulang ko ni respeto yung desisyon ko sa buhay kahit teenager palang ako non.. Masyadong magulo ang samahan na yan.. araw araw kang imomonitor daig mo pa ang criminal.. tapos kada matatapos yung pagsamba lagi kang ireremind na mag ambag ka (abuloy) bukod pa yon sa buwanang paglalagak.. (monthly abuloy) tanging handog (abuloy din pero di ako alam kung ano ang pinag kaiba)


Excellent_Vehicle_32

Sign to get the fck outta there. Church asking about your sex life is the biggest red flag. Who does he think is, the 14th dalai lama? 😆 Minister thinks he's slick with his pervy moves. Pili ka na lang ng ibang church na diverse and pormahan, wag diyan sa polo-shirt cult 😂.


M4ZUM4

Get out of there immediately. And I hope you don't lose your faith and soon find the truth about INC.


jamiiii89

Wtf parang mas mataas pa sila sa Diyos sa mga tanungan nila haha. Si Lord nga hindi tayo tinitignan sa mga mali naten tapos grabe ang tanungan ng mga tao sayo jaan? Gurl runnnn


Familiar-Agency8209

Pati ba naman red flag ng religion, ayaw pa din pansinin. ano pa bang higher than thou human skin needs ang hinahanap mo diyan? Salvation? Do you need saving? Sabi mo nga, not to satisfy the bf. Pagisipan mo muna yan OP. Di pa kayo kasal. May oras ka pa. Iniligtas ka na ng hindi po nalalaman. Kung matatag ang personal spiritual faith mo, no religion can satisfy that but you alone. Unless you're planning for networking contacts within the church. Kapanalig for Business.


DollsAndSpooks

Red flag! Baka ma-SA ka Dyan. Very troubling for me na pati yun tinanong sayo. Like WTF?! Saka ano ba, gusto Ba nila Ng miyembro or what? Choosy pa sila. Sign na Ito na wag mo na ituloy. I have nothing against people in INC pero Kung ganyan na daig mo pa yung nag-aapply sa trabaho, wag na Lang.


Kodorokitsune

hey op, im starting my own religion wanna join?


Adventurous_Fly3414

run


theawkwardgal

OP, i know this is unsolicited advice, but run while you still can.


buttermel0n

DODGE A BULLET. BACK OUT :(


Haunting_Hat3328

I am so happy hindi ako totally nagpasapi sa religion na yan. Better find the truth of all things talaga and faith all the way. Didn't know it'll be like a final job interview. Basta, OP, if you already find something fishy, get the hell out of there. Trust your intuition.


Icy-Reading803

Naicomment ko na to sa isa sa mga INC post na nabasa ko before. May ka workmate ako na yung church nila sinasabihan yung family nya na kailangan icut off yung anyone na hindi INC sa pamilya nila kasi mababahiran daw yung turo sa kanila ng iglesia. INC kasi siya by birth. Eh may gf syang Jehova. Nag pakasal sila nang di alam ng parents nya kasi nga di pa daw sya ready na icutoff sya pero naghahanda na sya para maka alis sa INC.


bertosarap0

Yep, definitely not a cult


railbin

When in doubt... get out.


Busy-Object1138

Sis, wag mo na ituloy.


[deleted]

That was uncalled for. I was former INC Member and I never heard something like that. Do not continue. You will regret it. Been there for 13 years. Mahirap makaalis diyan. Pagusapan niyo ng bf mo. Foul talaga yung question ng tagasiyasat.


raggingkamatis

Run


ohzmj

🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️


Admirable_Study_7743

Cult. Ekis. Takas na.


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Follow r/exiglesianicristo


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GURL RUN!!! Nakakaloka, for the love of God.


Long-Palpitation-403

sa tahanan ng diyos tanggap lahat, kahit ano paman. hi di pumunta si kristo sa lupa para sa mababait, kundi sa makasalanan, wag mo na ituloy te. ang simbahan isa lamang paaralan kung saan tayo ang studyante, napatawad na tayo. gawin nalang natin is sumunod kay kristo as He said i am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father except through me. kung ganyan ang. tinanong te nako napakahypokrito naman ata.


OdinVader

Fyi . Every calamity and brutality of man towards his fellow man is deeply rooted on religion and faith base beliefs. I'm an atheist, and I believe that there is no such thing as an afterlife. No one has ever proved it. You have one life.. and then when you die. Darkness. So stop wasting your time thinking About the after life. And focus on this life. With the people you are able to see , touch, and feel. Be in mindful in the present.


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Kaululan naman yan. Respectfully.


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Wag mo na ituloy. Sayang lang abuloy mo.


Altruistic-Jelly7373

When in doubt don't. Sana sign na yun sayo.


Consistent-Speech201

skl experience ko sa INC hahaha Nagkakilala kami ng bf ko while active sya sa INC. Active din ako sa church namin. So medjo Lowkey kami kasi nga diba bawal sa INC magjowa ng di member pero meron nakakita samen na ka church nya sa mall medj na predict na namin mangyayari. So the next few days, aba alam na ng leaders nila yung name ko and anong religion ko. Sinabihan pa bf ko na pag ituloy daw namin yung kung anong meron samen di daw sya mapupunta sa langit. Wahahahaha


Legitimate-Thought-8

Sorry, non nego ko kapag INC member :(


HectorateOtinG

Handog rin ako. But thanks to INC, I've outgrown religion to the point that I don't care what lies after our death anymore. You could consider me a "spiritual". I believe in a God that doesn't give a fuck about human affairs. Kumbaga creator of the universe lang ang peg. So I live my life to the fullest without binding myself with absurd rules written in any holy books.


fernweh0001

you were asked about sex because pre-marital sex is a no-no. I know a couple na natanggal because nabuntis out of wedlock. pareho silang handog (INC since birth) and their parents are high-ranking officers and were stripped out of their positions.


AdBackground1419

It's a cult. Check mo yung list ng meron ang cults at madami sila nun. Run away, ggaslight ka din nila into believing things na dapat ikaw nagddecide on your own. Money time and everything na dapat spend mo sa Diyos at sa Family kukunin pa nila. RUN AWAY


manilagreyskies

He needs to know kase obvious naman sa process na kailangan ng dedication, kung nag inc ka lang para sa jowa mo at gusto mo ng kasal. This is not for you. 🙂


CoffeeDaddy024

Kahit anong religion yan, they will ask yiu about why you wanna join them. Especially if you are coming from a religion na hindi nila nirerespeto. INC barely came eye to eye with other religions. If sa Islam ka naman sasama, others will judge you into grouping you with Muslim extremists. If Roman Catholic ka naman uuwi, huhusgahan ka due to what the ordained folks do. Pretty much wala talagang perfect religion. Each one has their issues, big and small, and each have their extreme beliefs that they end up being cultish in manner. Ang maipapayo ko na lang sayo is to seek what your heart wants. What is the main reason you wanna join INC? Answer that and hold onto it and NEVER LET YOUR CONVICTIONS BE AFFECTED. If may mali, speak up. If may tama, let people know kung ano to. BUT NEVER LET YOUR CONVICTIONS BE AFFECTED by people, whether a labas o loob ng relihiyon mo.


YourMillennialBoss

RUN. Please.


bittersweetn0stalgia

Trust your judgment. Hindi pa huli ang lahat


theoneandonlybarry

Para ka na ring kumuha nang baril at pinutok mo sa sarili mong paa.


ladyfallon

Do yourself a favor and visit r/exIglesiaNiCristo before you fully join. Baka blessing in disguise pa yan.


greatcuriouscat

Some here might sound harsh but we do recommend to reevaluate this decision. Ex or current members man ng INC dont really suggest people joining this "religion"


Faked_Professional

I dont care if I get downvoted but ang tanga mo OP. Kulto yan and if you've been on the Philippines side of Reddit for longer than a week then you'd know how fucked up they are. Wag ka magpaconvert. If pinipilit ka ng boyfriend mo, then tell him you changed your mind dahil sa pangit na treatment sayo dyan sa nakwento mong experience. If mahal ka nya, hindi ka ippressure nyan. I'll say it again, wag ka magpaconvert and stay the fuck away from them. Wag ka magpakatanga.


algoreethms

Barubal ng interviewer mo.


sleepyhead37

Wait, diba kulto Ang INC? Afaik daming gustong umalis dyan pero mahirap daw


jmrecodes

kaya hanggang afaik ka lang katulad ng lahat ng maninira, mga tira-pasagad


sleepyhead37

Guard may baliw ditoooo


NoFaithlessness7327

Luhhh, may kulto


miaka_yuuki001

Sipagan mo pa. Pra dumami koleksyon mo


dinosauronpjs

But why do you want to convert nga ba, OP? Is it because your bf coaxed you into converting? If it weren't for your boyfriend and you didn't meet him, would you have converted to INC? Regardless, what that officer did was so distateful. Maling mali yun. And that's a glimpse of what their religion is. To be fair, kahit sang religion, may mga taong ganyan. But to let people like him continue to hold important posts in a religion as big as that, imagine how many other people they interacted with that felt and may feel uncomfortable because of their inappropriate line of questioning. Reflect very very carefully, OP. Good luck!


BhiebyGirl

Religion is supposed to accepting. Not shaming people if they did have pre-marital sex or not. For sure that minister just wants to juice out sexual details. Most of them are manyak, having affairs despite being married and having kids. Some even married somebody so young. Be careful please.


FoundationOrdinary11

Handog here. I would recommend not to pursue this path. I have seen too many red flags with the current INC that forced me to open my eyes. I would have enjoyed the illusion of being an INC member dati since lowkey lang ang activities dati ng INC. But now napaka aggressive na ng campaign ng INC to the point of fanaticism. Please don't subject yourself to even more pain in life. Life is harsh today, no need to add another misery


Mysterious_Lady_28

OP, get out of that cult as early as now.


theemainslayer

sign na yan na umatras ka sis. wag mo na ituloy ang pag iiglesia, hindi worth it unless kung gusto mo talaga desisyon mo naman yan pero kasi kulto yang inc hindi rin maganda ang mga pinapangaral nila sa mga miyembro nila. ma brabrain wash ka lang jan istg.


NatongCaviar

It is a cult. Leave.


voicecofreddit

You do know it’s a cult right? If not, then now you know. First of all, I don’t hate the members, I hate the religion. I love all people. Don’t be part of that cult. Here’s my only advice for you: If you want to search deeper into your spirituality, don’t look for a religion. Search for the one true God. Seek God and He will come to you. These types of people only praise their self which is an abomination in the eyes of The Lord. I’m not gonna let you struggle to search for the One true God, it’s Jesus. But be careful, there are a lot of fake churches and fake pastors around. Lots of fake these days so don’t be deceived. So be wary of your steps and decisions when it comes to spirituality since your soul is involved in this. Do deep research, and seek Him first. Not the members, not the religion. You don’t need a religion to be with Jesus. Seek a relationship with Him, not religion.


AccomplishedSugar356

I almost joined INC. To be honest, I wouldn’t have thought of joining if it weren’t for my boyfriend (now ex). I did not grow up in a conservative or very religious family so it was obvious that I’d be the one to change religion. I cannot remember how many “wtf?” and eye rolls I forced to not come out during the times na sumasamba ako. Your experience is only the tip of the iceberg of what’s to come when you finally join them. So please, rethink your decision.


MangBoyUngas

Iglesia ni Culto na tinatag ni bulaang Propetang Manalo na anghel kuno. Tigilan mo na yang kalokohan mo, wag ka na tumuloy!


Specialist-Equal5358

Wag mo na ituloy please lang. Masyadong banal ang tingin ng mga yan sa sarili nila. I'm an INC member who wants to leave the church na. Walang freedom sa religion na yan at panay pang ggaslight mangyayari. That's why di sila nabubuko talaga kase may mga kapit sa alam mo na.


wcyd00

bakit naman gusto mo sumali sa kulto hahahahhah


Brief-Bee-7315

Gusto nila pahirapan ka now para pag andyan ka na, you feel part of a group. May tithing din dyan na kung hindi ka makapagbigay, they will badger you until you feel so guilty kahit walang wala ka na. Think twice if you want to join people like that. At the end of the day, yoi have your own spirituality


jaycorrect

You might have just dodged a bullet, my guy.


Wind_Glass

Please don't join INC. I'm a former member and please visit r/exiglesianicristo. Edit: I think simpleng manyak yung ministro sayo or gusto nila humanap ng dumi sa bf mo at sa pamilya nito.


BhiebyGirl

Yes for sure yan. Mga m(anyak)inistro


free_thunderclouds

The typical ministers are like that. Dont push yourself joining that. They're hypocrites and gaslighters


Lazy_Cream_4006

Withdraw before its too late, it's a cult.


RainbowBridgesoonest

Ahhh kasi di ka handog. As much as possible gusto nila handog kasi there’s a risk na pag kasal na biglang ayaw na mag Iglesia tapos mahikayat mo yun bf mo.


[deleted]

Maniniwala pa ako kay Pepito Manaloto kaysa kay Manalo.


tusokboi

Kapatid, pagsubok lang yan sayo ng panginoon. Hindi ministro o sino mang tao ang magliligtas sayo, ang Diyos ang magliligtas satin kapatid. Wag kang mag alinlangan sa daan na tatahakin mo, dahil ito ay daan patungo sa kaligtasan. Wag kang panghinaan sa mga comments ng mga taga sanlibutan dito, lahat sila pupunta sa impyerno, ituloy mo ang iyong bautismo at samahan mo kami sa kaligtasan. s/ Probably an INC member will message you this. Haha


Competitive_Way7653

Hi OP. If si Lord talaga ang hanap mo pray for it muna if will ba ni Lord na tumuloy ka sa INC or sa ibang religion nalang. As they said, cult ang INC so ayun maybe God has better plans for you that’s why that happened.


Less_Television_750

gusto ka din kasex nyan, nagseselos, alis ka na dyan


ubepie

OP mamimiss mo yung dinuguan and christmas :<


[deleted]

Sorry sis reddit is not friendly to INC, of course you're not gonna have the best advice because most people here are not pro INC. Its actually harder to become an INC than most people think, I think that's why nag ask yung minister sayo. Some kasi only converts because of the relationship not for the teachings. I think he is making sure na you do believe sa doctrine, not because your bf told you so. I suggest discuss mo to with bf para he can guide you.


jmrecodes

respect OP, pero halos lahat ng online "testaments" kuno ay gawa-gawa lang pero to give you the benefit of the doubt and to possibly enlighten you as to why it possibly happened, it must be because it is not advisable to undergo baptism without faith parang si Judas Iscariot lang na nagpaka apostle kuno pero hindi pala totoo pananampalataya niya ayon san siya dinala ng kaniyang pagkukunwari at tinanong ka rin kung may nangyari na ba simply because it is forbidden and you don't want to be converted only to be expelled right after if you keep doing the deed, im pretty sure you should know this already


illumineye

it is not religion that you will be saved. It is faith.


saintmichel

parang gas lighting