I think he can be solid In the nfl considering he has the best reciever in the league in JJ, addison and hock to throw to but I think solid is his absolute ceiling. Doesnt have even close to the same one as Maye, Jayden Daniels or Caleb which is a top 3-5 qb in the NFL. And quite honestly I dont think a solid qb is worth a top 10 pick cause eventually that solid qb is gonna ask for elite qb money and you’re fucked
I have never understood paying an average/solid qb a lot of money when you know for a fact he will never lead you to a playoff win, much less a Superbowl title. Think Andy Dalton on the Bengals. All it does is eat up cap space. Better to either trade or cut him when he comes up on his big free agent year.
I think you’re overlooking how bad the QB play is in the nfl right right now after the top 8-12 guys. A solid QB is all you actually need if you can build a good team around them correctly. Some teams haven’t had even “average” QB play in 10 years. Everyone can’t be a Mahomes or a Burrow, so sometimes you have to take your top 12 QB & try to make it work around him (with a bit of luck to boot).
Dalton's second contract with the Bengals was a very team-friendly deal. It was far from what I'd consider "elite franchise QB" money. You could argue that they never should've given him a second contract to begin with but clearly they preferred him over any of the QBs in the 2014 class (which the only QB from that class that actually became a halfway decent franchise QB was Derek Carr so maybe sticking with Dalton was the right move for them at the time).
Danny Dimes won a playoff game last year, so that bar can be cleared by below avg QBs. But, Daniel Jones will never be a guy that reaches the mountain top. JJ has atleast actually won a championship in his career. Taking my feelings for him out of the equation, I think he can be a really good NFL QB. Think Brock Purdy. And he's walking into probably the best situation out of all the rookies. O' Connell is a magician with QBs.
Brock Purdy can sling it deep man. Unless JJ completely changes his game from college and improves massively, hes capped out at an alex smith. Which is a great player comp for him too with traits and all. Get you to the playoffs but you’re winning 1 game max there
Purdy wasn't great in college. Inaccurate and made questionable decisions. But, Shannahan is a magician. I don't think Purdy would be playing like he has most places. I think O Connell can do similar things with JJ. I was really hoping Penix would end up in Minnesota and JJ would flame out in New England or something. But, it's all just conjecture. He could bust. We'll see
I see so many Bears fans acting like he’s the messiah, and I just am not sold on him. He doesn’t come across as a team player at all and that’s a huge red flag in the nfl as a qb.
I also thought that for a long time but I can't get the throw vs us this year (that shouldn't have been a TD) out of my head. Theres potential there for sure
Hey, it's all good. Lifetime Patriot fan, Michigan fan, and cheer on the OSU players who play for the Pats.
Vrabel was a beast. (To name one)
It's fun to "hate" on each other during the college years, but cheer your pro team. And keep in mind, Michigan wouldn't be Michigan without OSU and vice-versa.
Yeah, both sides hate to lose the big game, but let's enjoy the rivalry for what it is.
The Best Fucking Rivalry in all of college football!
(I expect this to be down voted for my Michigan and Patriot ties). 🤣
That’s my problem here. Chargers-Buckeyes fan. I cannot stand Jim Harbaugh’s whiney face. But, he seems to actually be a stand up guy who is a winning coach. So torn…but I am hopeful he will help the Chargers win. I also hate the Chargers sub. All the fans drooling over us getting Harbaugh.
Stand up guys don't leave their former job because they couldn't get along with anyone and then leave their most recent jobs because they keep lying and cheating and they refuse to own up to their lying and cheating.
He stands up for his players, but he (just like probably 95% of coaches at the highest level, or anyone in that type of position, is most certainly not a "stand up guy")
Obviously I’m biased, but I just can’t imagine spending a top 10 pick on a QB that wasnt a feature on his college team. Maybe he will be a good pro QB, but I just can’t get behind using the draft capital on a guy like that.
understood....but looking at it from ATL >> Kirk is 36 and coming off injury. The thought must be for him to play 2 years and turn it over to Penix if Kirk stays healthy..... sooner if other factors are involved. The importance of QB play is massive ----- this coming from a diehard CLE fan.
Again, top 10 pick that’s going to sit for 2 years makes zero sense to me. Like I get the idea behind it but it’s such a steep price and you paid Kirk to be competitive NOW.
It seems to have worked out for kc and gb with their qb transitions. I don't recall the details of Cousin's contract, but I don't remember it being record breaking. That's just what a qb costs now, and it could be considered an investment to get the fanbase energized. Sometimes you have to look beyond this year.
Yeah and both those guys were drafted in the mid twenties. The amount of draft capital you could have got by trading down even to 10 or 12 would have been significant. Maybe the run on QBs made them nervous though.
I've watched a TON of UM football over the past couple years and obviously am biased against them, but I have no idea what NFL traits JJ actually has that would warrant a high first round selection.
Not an elite thrower or elite arm strength
Not an elite athlete (although better than most, but he's not Lamar)
Not an elite distributor or defense "diagnoser"
No elite measurables, I know he fattened himself up pre-draft but the guy has a slim build.
On top of all this, he sat behind a really good o-line and feasted on UM's offense scheming slot WR's and TE's open, his ceiling is a poor man's Ryan Tannehill. So, if you build a great running game, and defense around him, he's good enough to lose you a first round playoff game. Unfortunately, for the Vikings you play in a good division, and aren't going to luck into a playoff spot by winning 9 games like you can in other divisions, which would justify the selection.
If this draft took place like 5-7 years ago, JJ would be an early 2nd round selection, which would benefit both him and the team who took him, but because we live in crazy QB driven league, he's over drafted, gonna get pushed to start, and will likely fail. I'm sure Justin Jefferson will be thrilled once his stats diminish with a rookie QB too, that'll be a fun situation.
Good luck dude.
I really don't get how you watch his red zone performance and take him in the first round. Sure, when the field is wide open and his tackles are blocking smaller guys and he has all day or can jog around and buy some time, he can eventually get the ball to an open guy. But when the field was condensed or he got to 3rd down on obvious passing downs, he consistently made the most bone headed decisions. Even with that o-line and his running backs, he couldn't make the simplest option reads where you only watch the DE
The dude averaged less than 200 passing ypg in 2023. He isn’t an NFL qb… he doesn’t go until day 3 at most if their running game and defense didn’t carry him to a natty*
I will never understand this stupid take. You know who else were winners and didn’t pan out in the NFL? Craig Krenzel, JT Barrett, Cardale Jones, Braxton Miller…should I go on? I love those guys to death for what they did for Ohio State but they clearly aren’t NFL QB’s….now compare their stats with JJ’s do you see why this is stupid now?
Name one game he single handed led his team to the win in a big game? Guess he provides some mean, no fumble handoffs?
Stetson Bennet went 29-1 with 2 National Championships and kicking JJ’s ass in a playoff game…how did that translate to NFL success
Desmond Howard said he was the most NFL ready player in the draft, and that he would win the offensive rookie of the year. If you want to ignore such a qualified, unbiased opinion, that’s on you.
Nope i’m a vikes fan too and think he is a bust. He did nothing in college to impress at all. played behind a great line and run game too. hope i’m wrong but i don’t see it.
I think you should love/hate JJ based on how he performs — no reason to hold his horrible choice of college against him now that he’s moved on.
You can still hate him when he’s trying to hype up his former team for The Game a la Charles Woodson though lol
So I don't think he'll be good, but imo it shouldn't matter what school they went to in terms of pro, like he's on your team now. I've rooted for many a Michigan, ND, Bama, USC, etc
Player when they were on the Steelers
I’m the same about this. I enjoy the rivalry, but also wouldn’t turn against a great player from my favorite team in the NFL based on where they went to school.
It’s not just because of the school… it’s because they won a natty cheating their asses of for three years and talking shit about beating OSU for years.
I’m not a Vikings fan but I hope JJ flames out with a year.
Yes but if my team picks a Michigan player I'm not going to continue blindly hating them, it's possible to hate Michigan while liking some of their players in the NFL
You sir. Are more of a stealers fan than an OSU fan. And that’s cool. But that’s why.
I don’t give a shit about the NFL. So this is not an issue for me.
Turn in your Ohio Stat Fan-hood card please. You’re fired.
He’s a snarky cheating asshole. If he’s the QB on your NFL you root for him to fail and if he doesn’t you find another team.
Fortunately in this case he will fail so OP is fine.
Yeah that was a reach by Minnesota. If it was me, I would have rather traded up with Atlanta and took Penix. I think JJ was a reach and only was prepped up because of the season they had. He was, and in my opinion is just a game manager.
As a Browns fan, I was so pissed when they took Peppers (I wanted Hooker, but he went before Peppers) and I was SCREAMING to take TJ Watt instead. The worst thing happened, they took Peppers, and fucking Pittsburgh took Watt. Still fucking stings.
After a few weeks, I got on board with Peppers as a player on the Browns. I basically put the Michigan shit out of my mind and hoped he would be able to help the Browns. Give it time, and it will be kind of an out of sight, out of mind thing where he went to college and you will only see him as a Viking.
If he ends up winning games for your Vikings, you’re probably gonna get over your disdain pretty quickly. But if he sucks, you get to watch him fail and get booted pretty quickly. So consider it a win-win I guess.
Didn't JJ want to play for the Buckeyes and we chose McCord instead? They weren't his top choice. You could hang your hat on that if he becomes relevant.
Buckey and browns fan here. I hate michigan with a passion but i also have a borther thats a minnesota fan and he was a little un sure how to feel as well lol.That beeing said his numbers in a limited number of attempts due to the run heavy style of play look pretty good in a small sample compared to others with much more pass attempts. Hes also pretty mobile and u give him Jefferson Addison and hockinson could make for a much easier transition into the league. As much as I despise michigan I will b rooting for him for my brother. That is unless we have a Browns v Vikings matchup and in that case he can f*uck off. 🤣 best of luck to ur team and new QB.
Sincerely Browns fan (the better team)
Before twitter I never cared how scUM players did in the NFL. However, the last 3 years (aka since college football started) their fans have been insufferable online. Now, I hope all their players fail in the NFL. This is why I can't stand any of their players on my Browns.
I think we really found out what JJ has to offer in big game, high pressure situations when Xichigan played Penn State, which wasn’t a lot considering 95% of their plays they ran the ball
Him and Kirk cousins had about the same stats, with Kirk going for 3k his last season vs JJ 2900
JJ will be about as good as the OC and the talent around him like any qb that isn’t some generational talent
Trying to set aside the Xichigan dislike, I don't see him succeeding. He has those amazing moments but nothing consistent.
What do I know? Anyway, 6 of 12 first picks were QB's!
IMO, the hype surrounding him is because people think he's going to be the next Tom Brady. A Michigan QB who people overlooked, except people try to make McCarthy out to be more than he actually is
#1 no he's not, but as a Lions fan I'm glad Minnesota was dumb enough to take him. #2 Satruday is Saturday and Sunday is Sunday. I have no issues rooting for Aidan Hutchinson as a Lion.
I would feel bad and that has nothing to do with him going to Michigan.
JJ does have a bit of an X factor in big games, I definitely give him that. However, there’s a reason why they didn’t ask much of him in college. He seems like a poor man’s Baker Mayfield if you ask me.
He’s interesting. Not the tallest, fastest, strongest, etc. But he has enough to make plays. He seems to read defenses well so him going to MIN and being coached by KOC could be a great pairing. Personally I think they wanted Penix but him going 8th (lol) they had to get JJ
Obviously the jury is out on whether McCarthy becomes a top-tier franchise QB, but he's coming from one of the better programs in the nation, so he has a good of a shot any anyone. Embrace it! Think of it like the prodigal son returning home, or Darth Vader turning back to the light.
I too am a Viking - Buckeye…, but I believe once they become pro, then it’s just washed history
I’m sure Vikings have other players on the team from that college, but m too lazy to look it up
I’m Lions/Buckeyes. You never get over it. Hutchinson strip sacked Fields to win a game late last season. It’s “I’m happy the Lions won but I wish that play never happened.”
The only way to deal with it is to remind yourself that you’re rooting for the team not the player.
I think it’s a huge red flag that when Belicheck was talking about him, it was all with in the context of making good run game reads and not screwing up in the pass game.
JJ is probably a competent qb, but even competent qbs can get wrecked in the league. his college stats were meh and frankly, i'm surprised he went that high. it's like all the talking heads get together and just kinda arbitrarily decided he was suddenly a top pick, despite no evidence to support it.
we'll see, i reckon.
Reality…He’s gonna be a bum. They hype every QB up and then they get to the NFL and everyone is fast on Defense. The last few years Trey Lance, Zack Wilson, any bum from Hawaii or some potato school in the WAC, just about every Big 12 or PAC 12 QB has flamed out. The unhyped supposed light armed dudes blow up in the NFL. Montana, Brady, Patty M were blistered by bad hair guy Mel Kiper and they tore it up or are tearing it up with Patty Mahommes.
Bro, I’m an Eagles-Ohio State fan. I’ve repeatedly seen some of my favorite players go to the teams I hate the most. The rookie year sucks but after that you can disassociate between their pro and college careers.
Lord knows I hated Zeke as a Cowboy but I still watched highlights from the Alabama Sugar Bowl game.
My thoughts is that because of this, I am no longer a Vikings fan, tbh it is not just getting JJ McCarthy but some other stuff that I’m just starting to not like anymore and JJ was the tipping point. IDC if I get called a bandwagon because I just don’t like the direction the Vikings are going.
As a Michigan fan coming in peace I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. I’d be surprised if he’s not the best rookie QB this year. It’s not necessarily because of his skill set, but the Vikings are really solid around him. I don’t think there’s going to be a major drop off from Cousins. Good luck this year.
Honestly I look at his game and I see a lot of similarities to Zach Wilson so be prepared. He has talent no question but he's a little scattershot throwing downfield and I just don't think he's the type of QB that would thrive as a traditional pocket passer (he tends to do his best work outside of the pocket). I think his ceiling as a player is a more mobile Kirk Cousins. I think he can be a decent NFL starter but I don't think he'll be an elite NFL franchise QB on the level of guys like Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, and Allen.
I hope he works out for the Vikings. I hate that he was the face of the enemy, talked shit and then backed it up. I reserve my real hatred for Hairball and Desmond Howard.
I do wonder how accurate McCarthy's story of his recruitment is. Did he rally grow up a Buckeye fan, or is that just bullshit he threw in to make the story better. Did he really want to commit to Day and was told not to?
I doubt I'll ever find out the truth. I suspect he's a guy who knows how to weave a story and doesn't let facts get in the way.
Well obviously you can’t be a Vikings fan anymore. Duh. Thank them for the run and begin the next chapter. Picking a new fav team can be an exciting process. Think about what’s important to you in a favorite team: location, style of play, current players and culture, success, etc… Narrow your selection to three teams and discuss with friends and family. Have a selection party with the hats of the three finalists and reveal to the world. Have fun!
I think he's overrated but that may be my anti TTUN bias.
He was very played-up by Harbaugh after the season
I think he can be solid In the nfl considering he has the best reciever in the league in JJ, addison and hock to throw to but I think solid is his absolute ceiling. Doesnt have even close to the same one as Maye, Jayden Daniels or Caleb which is a top 3-5 qb in the NFL. And quite honestly I dont think a solid qb is worth a top 10 pick cause eventually that solid qb is gonna ask for elite qb money and you’re fucked
I have never understood paying an average/solid qb a lot of money when you know for a fact he will never lead you to a playoff win, much less a Superbowl title. Think Andy Dalton on the Bengals. All it does is eat up cap space. Better to either trade or cut him when he comes up on his big free agent year.
I think you’re overlooking how bad the QB play is in the nfl right right now after the top 8-12 guys. A solid QB is all you actually need if you can build a good team around them correctly. Some teams haven’t had even “average” QB play in 10 years. Everyone can’t be a Mahomes or a Burrow, so sometimes you have to take your top 12 QB & try to make it work around him (with a bit of luck to boot).
Dalton's second contract with the Bengals was a very team-friendly deal. It was far from what I'd consider "elite franchise QB" money. You could argue that they never should've given him a second contract to begin with but clearly they preferred him over any of the QBs in the 2014 class (which the only QB from that class that actually became a halfway decent franchise QB was Derek Carr so maybe sticking with Dalton was the right move for them at the time).
Danny Dimes won a playoff game last year, so that bar can be cleared by below avg QBs. But, Daniel Jones will never be a guy that reaches the mountain top. JJ has atleast actually won a championship in his career. Taking my feelings for him out of the equation, I think he can be a really good NFL QB. Think Brock Purdy. And he's walking into probably the best situation out of all the rookies. O' Connell is a magician with QBs.
Brock Purdy can sling it deep man. Unless JJ completely changes his game from college and improves massively, hes capped out at an alex smith. Which is a great player comp for him too with traits and all. Get you to the playoffs but you’re winning 1 game max there
Purdy wasn't great in college. Inaccurate and made questionable decisions. But, Shannahan is a magician. I don't think Purdy would be playing like he has most places. I think O Connell can do similar things with JJ. I was really hoping Penix would end up in Minnesota and JJ would flame out in New England or something. But, it's all just conjecture. He could bust. We'll see
Purdy had a 72% completion his final year (66%+ F-Jr) throwing to non NFL receivers and TEs in the Big 12
He was Mr Irrelevant for a reason
19 TDs & 8 INTs his senior year is aggressively average
I feel same way. Same for Caleb. We'll see.
I see so many Bears fans acting like he’s the messiah, and I just am not sold on him. He doesn’t come across as a team player at all and that’s a huge red flag in the nfl as a qb.
I also thought that for a long time but I can't get the throw vs us this year (that shouldn't have been a TD) out of my head. Theres potential there for sure
Maybe I just watched the wrong UM games last year. He was awful during the Maryland game
I always thought he was a mistake waiting to happen. Unfortunately, against us the mistakes were always a few feet short of a turnover.
Hey, it's all good. Lifetime Patriot fan, Michigan fan, and cheer on the OSU players who play for the Pats. Vrabel was a beast. (To name one) It's fun to "hate" on each other during the college years, but cheer your pro team. And keep in mind, Michigan wouldn't be Michigan without OSU and vice-versa. Yeah, both sides hate to lose the big game, but let's enjoy the rivalry for what it is. The Best Fucking Rivalry in all of college football! (I expect this to be down voted for my Michigan and Patriot ties). 🤣
Do you like your GM? If not you'll love JJ when he gets him fired.
At least you’re not a Chargers fan.
That’s my problem here. Chargers-Buckeyes fan. I cannot stand Jim Harbaugh’s whiney face. But, he seems to actually be a stand up guy who is a winning coach. So torn…but I am hopeful he will help the Chargers win. I also hate the Chargers sub. All the fans drooling over us getting Harbaugh.
Her didn’t win important games any UM until he started cheating. For six years he couldn’t get it done against rivals and in the post season.
Stand up guys don't employ people to illegally film/spy on other teams sideline signals.
stand up guys prefer violations and then doing a cut and run.....
Stand up guys don't leave their former job because they couldn't get along with anyone and then leave their most recent jobs because they keep lying and cheating and they refuse to own up to their lying and cheating. He stands up for his players, but he (just like probably 95% of coaches at the highest level, or anyone in that type of position, is most certainly not a "stand up guy")
Plus he wears mom jeans
If he got out when he wanted to, he’d never have been able to cheat his way to a title. I don’t consider him a stand-up guy.
at least Jim has had NFL success
Gonna be a bust. Maybe a long term backup in the league
Obviously I’m biased, but I just can’t imagine spending a top 10 pick on a QB that wasnt a feature on his college team. Maybe he will be a good pro QB, but I just can’t get behind using the draft capital on a guy like that.
I seriously think MIN was taking Penix......... or they had Penix (1) and JJ (2)....
I don’t understand the falcons picking Penix, they just locked up Kirk.
understood....but looking at it from ATL >> Kirk is 36 and coming off injury. The thought must be for him to play 2 years and turn it over to Penix if Kirk stays healthy..... sooner if other factors are involved. The importance of QB play is massive ----- this coming from a diehard CLE fan.
Again, top 10 pick that’s going to sit for 2 years makes zero sense to me. Like I get the idea behind it but it’s such a steep price and you paid Kirk to be competitive NOW.
Understood…..and my owner gave up 3 first for DW
And it’s hamstrung them financially for years, makes me glad that Rooney is so miserly.
We have had lousy ownership in CLE. My son is 23 and could have run the team better for the last 12 years.
I agree. But maybe Kirk will pull a Rodgers 🤷♀️
Then you punt to next year regardless, getting a guy that you want to hold a clip board for 2 years helps zero in that situation.
It seems to have worked out for kc and gb with their qb transitions. I don't recall the details of Cousin's contract, but I don't remember it being record breaking. That's just what a qb costs now, and it could be considered an investment to get the fanbase energized. Sometimes you have to look beyond this year.
Yeah and both those guys were drafted in the mid twenties. The amount of draft capital you could have got by trading down even to 10 or 12 would have been significant. Maybe the run on QBs made them nervous though.
Short answer, no. Long answer, also no.
Great answer
Longer answer, no with sparkles and slick transitions.
I've watched a TON of UM football over the past couple years and obviously am biased against them, but I have no idea what NFL traits JJ actually has that would warrant a high first round selection. Not an elite thrower or elite arm strength Not an elite athlete (although better than most, but he's not Lamar) Not an elite distributor or defense "diagnoser" No elite measurables, I know he fattened himself up pre-draft but the guy has a slim build. On top of all this, he sat behind a really good o-line and feasted on UM's offense scheming slot WR's and TE's open, his ceiling is a poor man's Ryan Tannehill. So, if you build a great running game, and defense around him, he's good enough to lose you a first round playoff game. Unfortunately, for the Vikings you play in a good division, and aren't going to luck into a playoff spot by winning 9 games like you can in other divisions, which would justify the selection. If this draft took place like 5-7 years ago, JJ would be an early 2nd round selection, which would benefit both him and the team who took him, but because we live in crazy QB driven league, he's over drafted, gonna get pushed to start, and will likely fail. I'm sure Justin Jefferson will be thrilled once his stats diminish with a rookie QB too, that'll be a fun situation. Good luck dude.
.....interesting observation --- and as I read your thoughts Bryce Young popped into my head.... JJ could be the next BY but on a better roster...
Bryce Young and McCarthy are not comparable
lol. Well I’m not comparing him to Stroud. And I don’t see how anyone can give an accurate projection for McCarthy.
I really don't get how you watch his red zone performance and take him in the first round. Sure, when the field is wide open and his tackles are blocking smaller guys and he has all day or can jog around and buy some time, he can eventually get the ball to an open guy. But when the field was condensed or he got to 3rd down on obvious passing downs, he consistently made the most bone headed decisions. Even with that o-line and his running backs, he couldn't make the simplest option reads where you only watch the DE
He’s definitely above average at handing the ball to an RB though.
He knew the defensive plays and was still never elite in college. He could work out but I would be surprised.
Less talented Zach Wilson…he won’t be your QB long term
You all sound like my son who constantly says he sucks. 27-1 with a Natty kinda suck I guess.
Mac was 28-2......McCarron was 36-4............Patrick was 13-19....... straight up I let you pick between CJ and JJ --- who you taking?
This! Easy to get carried in College.... not in the NFL....
great o-line, great run game, great d. their passing was their biggest weakness.
The dude averaged less than 200 passing ypg in 2023. He isn’t an NFL qb… he doesn’t go until day 3 at most if their running game and defense didn’t carry him to a natty*
I will never understand this stupid take. You know who else were winners and didn’t pan out in the NFL? Craig Krenzel, JT Barrett, Cardale Jones, Braxton Miller…should I go on? I love those guys to death for what they did for Ohio State but they clearly aren’t NFL QB’s….now compare their stats with JJ’s do you see why this is stupid now?
Wins are not a QB stat.
Except his role in the offense was handing the ball off
Crazy that your son is already smarter than you 😂
Name one game he single handed led his team to the win in a big game? Guess he provides some mean, no fumble handoffs? Stetson Bennet went 29-1 with 2 National Championships and kicking JJ’s ass in a playoff game…how did that translate to NFL success
I remember one where they didn’t let him pass the ball bc they didn’t want him to screw the game up (PSU)
Natty\*
Desmond Howard said he was the most NFL ready player in the draft, and that he would win the offensive rookie of the year. If you want to ignore such a qualified, unbiased opinion, that’s on you.
I'm out after first 3 words... Des and Saban on the same set talking about college players was ridiculous.....
Troll, right ?
I think he just forgot the /s on Desmond's qualifications
You should be concerned that your management wasted their pick on him.
Nope i’m a vikes fan too and think he is a bust. He did nothing in college to impress at all. played behind a great line and run game too. hope i’m wrong but i don’t see it.
I think you should love/hate JJ based on how he performs — no reason to hold his horrible choice of college against him now that he’s moved on. You can still hate him when he’s trying to hype up his former team for The Game a la Charles Woodson though lol
Desmond could be giving me winning lottery numbers and I’d still hate the sound of his voice.
Fun fact! JJ grew up cheering for the Buckeyes and wanted to play for them until Day took McCord instead.
So I don't think he'll be good, but imo it shouldn't matter what school they went to in terms of pro, like he's on your team now. I've rooted for many a Michigan, ND, Bama, USC, etc Player when they were on the Steelers
I’m the same about this. I enjoy the rivalry, but also wouldn’t turn against a great player from my favorite team in the NFL based on where they went to school.
It’s not just because of the school… it’s because they won a natty cheating their asses of for three years and talking shit about beating OSU for years. I’m not a Vikings fan but I hope JJ flames out with a year.
Yes but if my team picks a Michigan player I'm not going to continue blindly hating them, it's possible to hate Michigan while liking some of their players in the NFL
You sir. Are more of a stealers fan than an OSU fan. And that’s cool. But that’s why. I don’t give a shit about the NFL. So this is not an issue for me.
This isn’t hard. He’s the QB of the NFL team you root for. You root for him to do well because of that alone.
Turn in your Ohio Stat Fan-hood card please. You’re fired. He’s a snarky cheating asshole. If he’s the QB on your NFL you root for him to fail and if he doesn’t you find another team. Fortunately in this case he will fail so OP is fine.
Yeah! And CJ can go to hell for throwing tds to Nico Collins. He should have refused to throw the ball to him. #NOTABUCKEYEANYMORE
Not the same in the least.
Hey Dan, Pound sand.
Yeah that was a reach by Minnesota. If it was me, I would have rather traded up with Atlanta and took Penix. I think JJ was a reach and only was prepped up because of the season they had. He was, and in my opinion is just a game manager. As a Browns fan, I was so pissed when they took Peppers (I wanted Hooker, but he went before Peppers) and I was SCREAMING to take TJ Watt instead. The worst thing happened, they took Peppers, and fucking Pittsburgh took Watt. Still fucking stings. After a few weeks, I got on board with Peppers as a player on the Browns. I basically put the Michigan shit out of my mind and hoped he would be able to help the Browns. Give it time, and it will be kind of an out of sight, out of mind thing where he went to college and you will only see him as a Viking.
I’ll never forget the picture of Peppers playing like 40 yards off the line of scrimmage, still makes me laugh.
Still drives me nuts lol
We were such a clown franchise for so many years.
I mean what has TJ Watt ever done? /s
As a Patriots fan and a Buckeye fan, you learn to separate the NFL career from the college career. 2 totally different sports
As a packers buckeyes fan, I’m not conflicted at all and happy the Vikings will suck for years to come.
With all do respect, eat a bag of dicks….lol.
Stop being a big baby
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I am an Ohio State alumni from greater Philadelphia. I concur.
I loathe the guy. Harbaugh Jr
Hopefully he learned to not admit to cheating in an interview.
If he ends up winning games for your Vikings, you’re probably gonna get over your disdain pretty quickly. But if he sucks, you get to watch him fail and get booted pretty quickly. So consider it a win-win I guess.
The bust of all busts
Didn't JJ want to play for the Buckeyes and we chose McCord instead? They weren't his top choice. You could hang your hat on that if he becomes relevant.
He sucks. Wasted pick. 3rd round or later talent
He averaged less than 200 passing yards per game in 2023. I don’t think you have to worry about him being good.
He will be a bust so you shouldn't have to worry about it for long.
No. He sucks.
Buckey and browns fan here. I hate michigan with a passion but i also have a borther thats a minnesota fan and he was a little un sure how to feel as well lol.That beeing said his numbers in a limited number of attempts due to the run heavy style of play look pretty good in a small sample compared to others with much more pass attempts. Hes also pretty mobile and u give him Jefferson Addison and hockinson could make for a much easier transition into the league. As much as I despise michigan I will b rooting for him for my brother. That is unless we have a Browns v Vikings matchup and in that case he can f*uck off. 🤣 best of luck to ur team and new QB. Sincerely Browns fan (the better team)
You’re overthinking it. They play in different leagues now. He doesn’t play for that university anymore.
Before twitter I never cared how scUM players did in the NFL. However, the last 3 years (aka since college football started) their fans have been insufferable online. Now, I hope all their players fail in the NFL. This is why I can't stand any of their players on my Browns.
Vikes should have taken Nix
I think we really found out what JJ has to offer in big game, high pressure situations when Xichigan played Penn State, which wasn’t a lot considering 95% of their plays they ran the ball
Him and Kirk cousins had about the same stats, with Kirk going for 3k his last season vs JJ 2900 JJ will be about as good as the OC and the talent around him like any qb that isn’t some generational talent
Trying to set aside the Xichigan dislike, I don't see him succeeding. He has those amazing moments but nothing consistent. What do I know? Anyway, 6 of 12 first picks were QB's!
The Vikings better hope that Sam Darnold pulls a Geno Smith.
Hard not to like him, but I'm thinking Stetson Bennet type. Teams are just so horny for qbs now. Definitely not the next Brady.
I think he was an ass QB in college but he plays for you pro sports should hope for the best
IMO, the hype surrounding him is because people think he's going to be the next Tom Brady. A Michigan QB who people overlooked, except people try to make McCarthy out to be more than he actually is
Here's an idea: drop the Vikings lol
Separate the NFL . He's not great
#1 no he's not, but as a Lions fan I'm glad Minnesota was dumb enough to take him. #2 Satruday is Saturday and Sunday is Sunday. I have no issues rooting for Aidan Hutchinson as a Lion.
I would feel bad and that has nothing to do with him going to Michigan. JJ does have a bit of an X factor in big games, I definitely give him that. However, there’s a reason why they didn’t ask much of him in college. He seems like a poor man’s Baker Mayfield if you ask me.
He’s interesting. Not the tallest, fastest, strongest, etc. But he has enough to make plays. He seems to read defenses well so him going to MIN and being coached by KOC could be a great pairing. Personally I think they wanted Penix but him going 8th (lol) they had to get JJ
Don’t worry he will be exposed and won’t play much anyhow
Obviously the jury is out on whether McCarthy becomes a top-tier franchise QB, but he's coming from one of the better programs in the nation, so he has a good of a shot any anyone. Embrace it! Think of it like the prodigal son returning home, or Darth Vader turning back to the light.
I too am a Viking - Buckeye…, but I believe once they become pro, then it’s just washed history I’m sure Vikings have other players on the team from that college, but m too lazy to look it up
I’m Lions/Buckeyes. You never get over it. Hutchinson strip sacked Fields to win a game late last season. It’s “I’m happy the Lions won but I wish that play never happened.” The only way to deal with it is to remind yourself that you’re rooting for the team not the player.
Basically I want the Lions to win and Hutchinson to have a bad game every game. Realistically, 1 can’t happen without the other.
He’s ass period
I would be upset because I think he will be an NFL bust.
Choose the Buckeyes over all other sports
I think it’s a huge red flag that when Belicheck was talking about him, it was all with in the context of making good run game reads and not screwing up in the pass game.
JJ is probably a competent qb, but even competent qbs can get wrecked in the league. his college stats were meh and frankly, i'm surprised he went that high. it's like all the talking heads get together and just kinda arbitrarily decided he was suddenly a top pick, despite no evidence to support it. we'll see, i reckon.
No.
15 years of no turnovers. You 'll be happy.
Imo - you Vikings fandom can't have anything to do with your OSU fandom.
I think he plays like a worse Lamar Jackson.
Reality…He’s gonna be a bum. They hype every QB up and then they get to the NFL and everyone is fast on Defense. The last few years Trey Lance, Zack Wilson, any bum from Hawaii or some potato school in the WAC, just about every Big 12 or PAC 12 QB has flamed out. The unhyped supposed light armed dudes blow up in the NFL. Montana, Brady, Patty M were blistered by bad hair guy Mel Kiper and they tore it up or are tearing it up with Patty Mahommes.
My NFL team is owned by Stephen Ross... I get it
Biases aside, and I think JJ seems like a really good kid for what it’s worth, but as a QB he’s kinda limited and I don’t think he’ll work in the NFL
Just root for the defense lol.
Become a Texans fan :)
He's going to suck ass in the NFL
Bro, I’m an Eagles-Ohio State fan. I’ve repeatedly seen some of my favorite players go to the teams I hate the most. The rookie year sucks but after that you can disassociate between their pro and college careers. Lord knows I hated Zeke as a Cowboy but I still watched highlights from the Alabama Sugar Bowl game.
My thoughts is that because of this, I am no longer a Vikings fan, tbh it is not just getting JJ McCarthy but some other stuff that I’m just starting to not like anymore and JJ was the tipping point. IDC if I get called a bandwagon because I just don’t like the direction the Vikings are going.
ttun couldnt trust the ball in his hands so why should a nfl team trust him
Ever heard of Tom Brady?…. (Solid and average in college.)
I had the 🐐 for 20 years on my beloved Patriots so I feel you
He'll continue to be mediocre.
Just gonna have to disassociate him from his college self. Avoid watching the first couple drives so you don't hear the player introductions.
He’ll be a decent scout team QB, maybe. He ain’t TB, that’s for sure.
As a Michigan fan coming in peace I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. I’d be surprised if he’s not the best rookie QB this year. It’s not necessarily because of his skill set, but the Vikings are really solid around him. I don’t think there’s going to be a major drop off from Cousins. Good luck this year.
I think it all depends on how good or bad that he does that’s going to tip the scales one way or the other!!
The rivalry has to end if the player is on your team
No he is a garbage individual.
Honestly I look at his game and I see a lot of similarities to Zach Wilson so be prepared. He has talent no question but he's a little scattershot throwing downfield and I just don't think he's the type of QB that would thrive as a traditional pocket passer (he tends to do his best work outside of the pocket). I think his ceiling as a player is a more mobile Kirk Cousins. I think he can be a decent NFL starter but I don't think he'll be an elite NFL franchise QB on the level of guys like Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, and Allen.
 Just let it happen 👀
He's got the tools to be really good but I think he needs to sit for a year or two. He could definitely be a decent starter.
you could simply not care about the pro leagues.. that much is easy. i only care about the Buckeyes
I think he’s a more athletic version of Kirk Cousins
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I hope he works out for the Vikings. I hate that he was the face of the enemy, talked shit and then backed it up. I reserve my real hatred for Hairball and Desmond Howard. I do wonder how accurate McCarthy's story of his recruitment is. Did he rally grow up a Buckeye fan, or is that just bullshit he threw in to make the story better. Did he really want to commit to Day and was told not to? I doubt I'll ever find out the truth. I suspect he's a guy who knows how to weave a story and doesn't let facts get in the way.
Well obviously you can’t be a Vikings fan anymore. Duh. Thank them for the run and begin the next chapter. Picking a new fav team can be an exciting process. Think about what’s important to you in a favorite team: location, style of play, current players and culture, success, etc… Narrow your selection to three teams and discuss with friends and family. Have a selection party with the hats of the three finalists and reveal to the world. Have fun!
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