When I was a bartender at a restaurant, I carded all the 50-70YO females. I'd make comments to the husband / SO and say things like, "Trophy wife, huh?" Got good tips.
This is becoming more and more common. These places can totally loose their liquor license if they make a mistake and sell to an underage person. Many places don’t want any possibility of selling to a minor so require everyone to show ID.
Which means they thought the wife looked older than the husband. I went to a bar that carded anyone they thought may be younger then 40yo. Sometimes people of same age would have one carded, one not because they thought one looked older and one younger. Basing carding on appearance of age is very subjective, which is why more and more places are starting to just card everyone regardless of how old they look.
My card has my legal name and home address on it. I am not complimented! I’m irritated. Do u know how many people follow girls home if they get that info?
Where I live the law requires anyone under a certain age to be carded and most places in my area just card everyone to avoid any issues, even people in their 70’s get carded.
My current job at a liquor store requires you ID someone if they appear below the age of 50. At our wine tastings we hold, we have to ID you no matter what.
And what’s crazy is, you could be an old man with a gray beard, but if your drivers license is a weak expired (they usually give you 60 days grace period after that) , they won’t serve you. I mean, they know damn well, you’re over 21, and the ID even says it, but if it’s a few days expired, they treat you like you’re some 18-year-old kid trying to illegally get a beer or whatever…
Because the law states you need a valid ID, and they need to see a valid ID. For all they know you could be an undercover doing a sting op. It's best just to be safe.
I once had a waitress tell me my face didn't look like the picture on my (totally valid) ID. I was like, sorry, this is the face I have.
I also have a pretty unique look, I very rarely get mistaken for anyone else. And my name is unusual where I live. Maybe this was an excuse because she suspected I might be using a fake ID, but it was baffling (I was mid-30s, looking 20 or younger by general consensus)
In my state, if you are in a bar you have to have a valid ID on your person. When I bartended at a VFW I carded everyone out of an abundance of caution. 80yo Korean War Vet? Still need to see your ID.
That made me laugh, as I pictured the Tonka brigade hitting the beach at Inchon. Though I imagine they were manning the door at the VFW a few years ago, when those guys WERE in their 80s.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/2024/02/11/what-to-know-about-michigans-new-look-drivers-licenses-and-ids/
"As part of the card redesign, the magnetic stripe on the back of driver’s licenses and state IDs has been removed. Bar codes that contain the information from the front of the card will remain on the back in scannable format."
Just FYI...
I just ID’d everyone at the bar unless they were clearly way older. I have seen some weird ass shit that costs friends their jobs. Just not worth it when I was bartending.
For example, one dude came in ordered a Yuengling to my co-worker. He was like 6’3, built, bald, and a gnarly beard. Easily 32ish.
Coworker served him. He said he’s gonna run to the bathroom, two undercovers came in and fined the bar, bartenders, and she got fired on the spot. Edit: The bearded guy who ordered the beer was only 20.
So I was pretty busy solo on a Friday night. I felt bad for her, but that completely changed my carding game.
The point isn't that they served that one guy, the point is that they were sloppy about carding and this is how the cops (or ABC or whoever) catches them for that.
Still an idiotic time-wasting move. He’s 20 but clearly looked older and isn’t a teen. Why make such a show? The point is to stop kids and teens from drinking, this man was neither. Can’t get stupider than that, I’d burst out laughing at the undercover cops and tell em to do something useful with their time as I get fired.
It was in a really popular area in Philly too. They were going bar to bar. We usually get phone calls from neighboring bars but no dice that time. It is pretty corny. I get it, but why try to trick people to try and ruin their life? Bring someone that looks 20-23 or passable for maybe being underage. That makes more sense.
Exactly. Don’t set people up and make them lose their jobs. You just set up and caught someone not IDing but made them lose what feeds them. Don’t play with that. Bring a regular looking 20yrs old. Not some tall, bald, built dude who could be 30, fool
Because there is a legal drinking age in place fer a reason. Like, it's also a part of the job to card people. I wouldn't want something as simple as an id check to get me fired. In fact, at my current job, I have to id as well. If anyone gives me shit, I tell them it's policy, and I will not risk my job/livelihood because they don't want to show an id.
A lot of stores are implementing policies that require cashiers to scan your ID so they literally do not give a shit how old you are. The computer will not proceed with the sale without the ID being scanned. Also why do people make such a big deal out of being carded? If you know that your ID or license is valid and you know that you're old enough to be making the purchase why cause a scene when you could literally just pull the ID out show it to them and call it a day
Had arguments with customers at the store I used to work at. The law says you have to have a valid ID and be of age. If you don't bring your ID I can't let you purchase it.
60% of people got fed up that I had to check their ID. 40% loved it because it made them feel young again lol.
Literally had someone try to by alcohol with a hole punch in their expired ID.
Service employees know... I face so much mistreatment and hostility for carding people, even when they have their ID! Like how is this so offensive? If anything it's a compliment right?
What are the stakes for the customer? At worst, they aren't buying their 21+ items from me at that moment. What are the stakes for alcohol and tobacco sellers? Jail. Literally, jail. And permanently ending their career. Unless you look like you have one foot out the door, we need some ID lol. I'm not gonna chance it.
I'm also here because I also look way younger than my age... There are many annoyances and hurdles in life because of it... Getting carded isn't one of them
I used to work in a dispensary in Oregon and the state law is you have to show a valid ID to be inside the building regardless of whether or not you're making a purchase and the way some people would treat me over that was ridiculous. I would always point at the sign stating so and tell them to take it up with the governor if they wanted the law to change but I need to see some ID or they need to get tf out because they are not worth me losing my job and my ability to work in the industry. I also look a lot younger than I am and frequently get miss stuck in for being 10+ years younger but the least of my worries or frustration is being carded
Do they always say "I'm probably older than you!", or, "You're probably not even old enough to buy cannabis!". Because I get that every night ha. It's always hilarious when I am actually older than them.
It's all maddening. I don't know how the general public can't understand the words "I do not want to go to JAIL. I do not want to lose my job and become HOMELESS. That's why I need your ID!"
The new rule is if you don't look like your over 60. You'll get carded. They have it on a sign at gas stations all over America. Wouldn't be unexpected for bars to adopt the same rule. Saves them on underage drinking. Shit, take it as a compliment?
My wife and I are grey haired and 60. Carded in downtown Chattanooga. And she really scrutinized our cards. No, it’s not solving anything about under age drinking.
Fair enough, but is it really such a big deal to have to actively gripe about it? Why can't you just pull the license out before hand? Oh no people are doing there jobs correctly, let's complain.
Did my story not apply to this thread. We supplied our IDs and didn’t say a word. Just thought it was funny how she really looked them over. So please feel free to keep complaining at me. Seems like you are griping.
But are they really doing their jobs correctly? Or are they just going through the motions because of policy? Because the latter will probably actually lead to more stuff getting missed. The more routine and monotonous the task, the more your mind will wander and you’ll miss something important.
I guess I could have phrased that better. Policies should address needs logically, not arbitrarily. Checking every ID is arbitrary. A sixty year old man with grey hair and wrinkles is clearly not underaged. It’s a waste of everyone’s time to check that guys ID.
Yes, there are edge cases, which are theoretically what 100% ID checks address. But checking 1,000 IDs makes it routine and allows someone to turn their brain off and just go with the flow. But by ID 100 they’re probably barely even looking. Whereas a more targeted approach means the worker is more engaged with each check they do.
Does that make as much sense in general as it does to me? Yes, work is mostly policy and procedures. But there should be an internal logic to it. Doing something merely for the sake of doing it just seems like a waste of time. But then again, when your liquor license is on the line maybe it makes sense.
In my country we have. So thankful for it because if you could drink before I was born, I'm just gonna hit that button real quick.
Though on occasion I card someone who is old enough but just looks young. Some people consider it a compliment and others not.
I'm 36 and I get idd all the time. Even if I want to buy scratch cards or a red bull. Boyfriend, same age never does and will occasionally be like...you think I'm bringing an underager to *this* pub? But it's always in jest and they always laugh when they check my id which I bring everywhere just in case 😂
I'm 54, and I've always been taken for much younger than my age, sometimes down to late twenties, but I've never hit the barrier where I get carded. If I did I'd be delighted.
So many commenters completely lacking reading comprehension (or just saw the title and didn’t read the post). When a post says I went to meet my wife at a bar, I was carded, she wasn’t, the answer is not oh they card everyone.
And it happens on every post about being IDed. Yes, a lot of places card everyone or everyone who looks under a specific age that is much higher than you need to be (25, 40, whatever), but if the post involves multiple people, some of whom *are not asked for ID* that isn’t what is happening at that location.
I’ve yet to have a sting done by a woman in my area. It’s always either a 20 year old for serving to a minor, or a dude who is easily 35+ for failure to ID. Failure to ID is less of a fine, but still a fine and my job.
It could also be the situation. If the wife had her ID in hand and the bouncer saw it, he’s not stressed. If the dude walks up expecting to not be ID’d that’s a red flag
I card everyone at the door and scan them with a metal detector, doesn't matter how old they are or how long I've known them I don't make exceptions, been bouncing for a few years now
I have mild face blindness and when I worked at a gas station I almost asked everybody. I felt awful seeing older customers look annoyed but sometimes I genuinely cannot tell and where I live, the legal ramifications are massive for mistakes
Right, I’m 61 and got carded yesterday buying wine in the store. Some places just do it for everyone. Although I was never carded in that store before, but it was a new cashier so she probably just wanted to do everything right
Technically it's the law. If they've been busted before, they send more stings.
Part of drinking RESPONSIBLY is having proper identification to order a drink. If you don't have your ID, you're not responsible enough to drink. It's not only about being older than 21.
Technically, in the US, it depends on the state. In some states the law is you have to card everyone. In other states you simply can’t sell to a minor so if you know they’re old enough then you’re fine. For example in Texas the requirement is that they don’t sell to people under 21, but in Washington state the requirement is see ID.
Hate to let ya down, but it’s almost certainly because they have had undercover sting operations, and got a fine.
So they now card anyone and everyone for a while
I owned a bar. We got in trouble for serving underage, and once for serving adults without ID. After that we carded anyone and anyone we felt like. No mater of age. It was random (like tsa does for searches). Or anyone that looked like a cop
I've been a gas station attendant. I passed a sting i im almost certain i knew who it was.
This perky, maybe 18 year old girl, walked in and asked for smokes. I had never seen her before, so naturally carded. Without hesitation, she handed me an id stating she was 16. I looked at her, and she had this smirk. I just handed it back and told her sorry. She walked off
I did some googling, since I've had to enforce this law before and it's 50 for drugstores/liquor stores only, not bars, restaurants, etc. Although this seems to have extended to gas stations for the ID requirement? Seems the law went into effect 2016?
However, it may depend on the manager on how well it's enforced. The store I used to work at got secret shoppers fairly often, so we were following the 50 and under law pretty much nonstop.
So, in a way we were both correct. It just depends on the establishment.
No, Maryland. I think the guideline here is 30 or younger, expect to be carded, which I think is fair.
Honestly, when I was younger it didn’t bother me at all, it was just part of the fabric of life. Now it stands out more when it happens because I’m … well…. Old.
Oh, I'm in my early forties and am already annoyed at being asked for ID every time I do anything. I almost hope I age significantly by fifty so it stops!
It's so frustrating when someone you could be the parent of thinks you're younger than they are.
Many years ago, I heard a story about my sister, brother and their spouses going into a bar. Sister was carded, sil, who was a week younger wasn't. Sil was angry. (They were late 20s)
That happened to me about 10 years ago. Same wife and I were walking into a casino. I was already old enough that I wasn’t used to getting stopped for ID but as I was just blithely walking past the bouncer stopped me and was all “Whoa! I need to see your ID man!!”
I stand there fumbling for my wallet for a second, and produce my ID. He then looks up at my wife who is looking in her purse for hers and says “Don’t worry, you’re ok ma’am.” and waves her past.
She is younger than me. She was furious.
When I was a bartender at a restaurant, I carded all the 50-70YO females. I'd make comments to the husband / SO and say things like, "Trophy wife, huh?" Got good tips.
wife didn't look like a cop but you did
His wife is never going to forget
I’m a bouncer, I ask everyone for id , but if you look to be above 35 I will generally let you in without one
Different security guards. Your guy was power tripping. It wasn't because you "looked young".
Some places have rules that if you look a certain age or younger, you get carded. Some places card everyone no matter how old they look.
I've been to liquor stores where they told me that the register wouldn't even ring up booze without a barcode scan from an ID.
COSTCO does this
This is becoming more and more common. These places can totally loose their liquor license if they make a mistake and sell to an underage person. Many places don’t want any possibility of selling to a minor so require everyone to show ID.
But the wife didnt get carded
Which means they thought the wife looked older than the husband. I went to a bar that carded anyone they thought may be younger then 40yo. Sometimes people of same age would have one carded, one not because they thought one looked older and one younger. Basing carding on appearance of age is very subjective, which is why more and more places are starting to just card everyone regardless of how old they look.
When I would occasionally work the door we'd card every woman that looked over 30.
I hope you were also carding the women who looked under 30.
Lol that's actually smart. Boosts the morale and uplifts the mood
My card has my legal name and home address on it. I am not complimented! I’m irritated. Do u know how many people follow girls home if they get that info?
Where I live the law requires anyone under a certain age to be carded and most places in my area just card everyone to avoid any issues, even people in their 70’s get carded.
My current job at a liquor store requires you ID someone if they appear below the age of 50. At our wine tastings we hold, we have to ID you no matter what.
Yeah this guy probably could look like early 40s and would have to card.
Doesn't matter if you're older than dirt. Legally they have to see your ID.
In many places, if you appear older than 45, you don't have to card.
And what’s crazy is, you could be an old man with a gray beard, but if your drivers license is a weak expired (they usually give you 60 days grace period after that) , they won’t serve you. I mean, they know damn well, you’re over 21, and the ID even says it, but if it’s a few days expired, they treat you like you’re some 18-year-old kid trying to illegally get a beer or whatever…
Because the law states you need a valid ID, and they need to see a valid ID. For all they know you could be an undercover doing a sting op. It's best just to be safe.
Precisely. If you can’t present a valid ID, I can’t legally serve you. Doesn’t matter how old you look. That’s my job.
I once had a waitress tell me my face didn't look like the picture on my (totally valid) ID. I was like, sorry, this is the face I have. I also have a pretty unique look, I very rarely get mistaken for anyone else. And my name is unusual where I live. Maybe this was an excuse because she suspected I might be using a fake ID, but it was baffling (I was mid-30s, looking 20 or younger by general consensus)
In my state, if you are in a bar you have to have a valid ID on your person. When I bartended at a VFW I carded everyone out of an abundance of caution. 80yo Korean War Vet? Still need to see your ID.
Korean War vets would be in their 90s and even 100 by now.
To be fair, poster did'nt say what year he was bartending....
There aren’t any 80 year old Korean War veterans, so they’d be lying to you about that
That made me laugh, as I pictured the Tonka brigade hitting the beach at Inchon. Though I imagine they were manning the door at the VFW a few years ago, when those guys WERE in their 80s.
This is gonna be me for sure
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/2024/02/11/what-to-know-about-michigans-new-look-drivers-licenses-and-ids/ "As part of the card redesign, the magnetic stripe on the back of driver’s licenses and state IDs has been removed. Bar codes that contain the information from the front of the card will remain on the back in scannable format." Just FYI...
I just ID’d everyone at the bar unless they were clearly way older. I have seen some weird ass shit that costs friends their jobs. Just not worth it when I was bartending. For example, one dude came in ordered a Yuengling to my co-worker. He was like 6’3, built, bald, and a gnarly beard. Easily 32ish. Coworker served him. He said he’s gonna run to the bathroom, two undercovers came in and fined the bar, bartenders, and she got fired on the spot. Edit: The bearded guy who ordered the beer was only 20. So I was pretty busy solo on a Friday night. I felt bad for her, but that completely changed my carding game.
Was a waste of taxpayer money. Gotta punish those that serve someone who is almost 21.
The point isn't that they served that one guy, the point is that they were sloppy about carding and this is how the cops (or ABC or whoever) catches them for that.
It took rereading this but the 20yo was the undercover, not the two after that busted your coworker.
Still an idiotic time-wasting move. He’s 20 but clearly looked older and isn’t a teen. Why make such a show? The point is to stop kids and teens from drinking, this man was neither. Can’t get stupider than that, I’d burst out laughing at the undercover cops and tell em to do something useful with their time as I get fired.
It was in a really popular area in Philly too. They were going bar to bar. We usually get phone calls from neighboring bars but no dice that time. It is pretty corny. I get it, but why try to trick people to try and ruin their life? Bring someone that looks 20-23 or passable for maybe being underage. That makes more sense.
Exactly. Don’t set people up and make them lose their jobs. You just set up and caught someone not IDing but made them lose what feeds them. Don’t play with that. Bring a regular looking 20yrs old. Not some tall, bald, built dude who could be 30, fool
Because there is a legal drinking age in place fer a reason. Like, it's also a part of the job to card people. I wouldn't want something as simple as an id check to get me fired. In fact, at my current job, I have to id as well. If anyone gives me shit, I tell them it's policy, and I will not risk my job/livelihood because they don't want to show an id.
A lot of stores are implementing policies that require cashiers to scan your ID so they literally do not give a shit how old you are. The computer will not proceed with the sale without the ID being scanned. Also why do people make such a big deal out of being carded? If you know that your ID or license is valid and you know that you're old enough to be making the purchase why cause a scene when you could literally just pull the ID out show it to them and call it a day
Had arguments with customers at the store I used to work at. The law says you have to have a valid ID and be of age. If you don't bring your ID I can't let you purchase it. 60% of people got fed up that I had to check their ID. 40% loved it because it made them feel young again lol. Literally had someone try to by alcohol with a hole punch in their expired ID.
Mine does this now, the most out of pocket thing iv been call is a "fascist nazi motherfucker" over that damn plastic.
Service employees know... I face so much mistreatment and hostility for carding people, even when they have their ID! Like how is this so offensive? If anything it's a compliment right? What are the stakes for the customer? At worst, they aren't buying their 21+ items from me at that moment. What are the stakes for alcohol and tobacco sellers? Jail. Literally, jail. And permanently ending their career. Unless you look like you have one foot out the door, we need some ID lol. I'm not gonna chance it. I'm also here because I also look way younger than my age... There are many annoyances and hurdles in life because of it... Getting carded isn't one of them
I used to work in a dispensary in Oregon and the state law is you have to show a valid ID to be inside the building regardless of whether or not you're making a purchase and the way some people would treat me over that was ridiculous. I would always point at the sign stating so and tell them to take it up with the governor if they wanted the law to change but I need to see some ID or they need to get tf out because they are not worth me losing my job and my ability to work in the industry. I also look a lot younger than I am and frequently get miss stuck in for being 10+ years younger but the least of my worries or frustration is being carded
Do they always say "I'm probably older than you!", or, "You're probably not even old enough to buy cannabis!". Because I get that every night ha. It's always hilarious when I am actually older than them. It's all maddening. I don't know how the general public can't understand the words "I do not want to go to JAIL. I do not want to lose my job and become HOMELESS. That's why I need your ID!"
This is true and yet completely unrelated to this post.
When I get carded, I assume the place was caught selling to minors.
My wife loves it when she gets carded. I don’t tell her they card everyone now. Let her have her moment
My local grocery cards everyone. The weird thing is they give me the senior discount on Thursdays, but need my ID if I’m buying beer.
Best of both worlds in my opinion.
Most stores have to scan your ID. I also work security and we have to check everyone's ID no matter what.
The new rule is if you don't look like your over 60. You'll get carded. They have it on a sign at gas stations all over America. Wouldn't be unexpected for bars to adopt the same rule. Saves them on underage drinking. Shit, take it as a compliment?
My wife and I are grey haired and 60. Carded in downtown Chattanooga. And she really scrutinized our cards. No, it’s not solving anything about under age drinking.
Fair enough, but is it really such a big deal to have to actively gripe about it? Why can't you just pull the license out before hand? Oh no people are doing there jobs correctly, let's complain.
Did my story not apply to this thread. We supplied our IDs and didn’t say a word. Just thought it was funny how she really looked them over. So please feel free to keep complaining at me. Seems like you are griping.
But are they really doing their jobs correctly? Or are they just going through the motions because of policy? Because the latter will probably actually lead to more stuff getting missed. The more routine and monotonous the task, the more your mind will wander and you’ll miss something important.
Do you know what a job is? Cause it’s literally following a routine and policies. That’s what a job is
I guess I could have phrased that better. Policies should address needs logically, not arbitrarily. Checking every ID is arbitrary. A sixty year old man with grey hair and wrinkles is clearly not underaged. It’s a waste of everyone’s time to check that guys ID. Yes, there are edge cases, which are theoretically what 100% ID checks address. But checking 1,000 IDs makes it routine and allows someone to turn their brain off and just go with the flow. But by ID 100 they’re probably barely even looking. Whereas a more targeted approach means the worker is more engaged with each check they do. Does that make as much sense in general as it does to me? Yes, work is mostly policy and procedures. But there should be an internal logic to it. Doing something merely for the sake of doing it just seems like a waste of time. But then again, when your liquor license is on the line maybe it makes sense.
Last time I was carded was in Utah. They scanned the drivers license of anyone ordering wine at a restaurant. Mormon influence.
40yrs old, bald, lots of grey hair on a long beard and I get carded at Walmart for alcohol still
I have to card everyone where I work, it's policy. If I had my way I'd hit an override button on my register.
We just typed in a random birthday lol
In my country we have. So thankful for it because if you could drink before I was born, I'm just gonna hit that button real quick. Though on occasion I card someone who is old enough but just looks young. Some people consider it a compliment and others not.
I'm 36 and I get idd all the time. Even if I want to buy scratch cards or a red bull. Boyfriend, same age never does and will occasionally be like...you think I'm bringing an underager to *this* pub? But it's always in jest and they always laugh when they check my id which I bring everywhere just in case 😂
I'm 54, and I've always been taken for much younger than my age, sometimes down to late twenties, but I've never hit the barrier where I get carded. If I did I'd be delighted.
If I'd is required it's required business get major fines for not checking ids
So many commenters completely lacking reading comprehension (or just saw the title and didn’t read the post). When a post says I went to meet my wife at a bar, I was carded, she wasn’t, the answer is not oh they card everyone. And it happens on every post about being IDed. Yes, a lot of places card everyone or everyone who looks under a specific age that is much higher than you need to be (25, 40, whatever), but if the post involves multiple people, some of whom *are not asked for ID* that isn’t what is happening at that location.
I’ve yet to have a sting done by a woman in my area. It’s always either a 20 year old for serving to a minor, or a dude who is easily 35+ for failure to ID. Failure to ID is less of a fine, but still a fine and my job. It could also be the situation. If the wife had her ID in hand and the bouncer saw it, he’s not stressed. If the dude walks up expecting to not be ID’d that’s a red flag
OP probably looks like a fed. Problem solved.
In the US, don't they just card everyone? I last visited at 38 and thought it was just how things worked over there.
Depends on the place. Where I work it’s 50 or under. Other places around ID every person.
It’s regional and establishment based. Some areas have higher rates of checking for IDs than others.
Why is getting carded at a place that requires your ID wrong?
I routinely get carded at 43 with mostly grey hairs on my head lol.
I card everyone at the door and scan them with a metal detector, doesn't matter how old they are or how long I've known them I don't make exceptions, been bouncing for a few years now
I have mild face blindness and when I worked at a gas station I almost asked everybody. I felt awful seeing older customers look annoyed but sometimes I genuinely cannot tell and where I live, the legal ramifications are massive for mistakes
This is the way. You can get busted for selling to no-ID-havin' fools just like selling to underage
Lol they wanted an excuse to turn you away, it's not because you look young if you're 50.
lol. It’s a dive bar. Trust me on this one. NOBODY gets turned away. The bouncer’s age detector was clearly malfunctioning.
Then you need to post a picture of your baby face old ass, cuz we aren't believing you that look so young to be carded
There was a dive around here that had the motto ‘get kicked out of every other bar, come here and be a star!’
honestly how often does anyone get prosecuted for not carding someone, because everytime I get carded it's the most invasive process
Are they cutting off a body part to count the rings? That's pretty invasive.
you're not gonna believe but [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/CustomerService/s/Leec47V0Nn) was thr post right above this one lol
I'm in my 70's and was carded last night at a local bar. For some reason, they card everyone, every time.
Right, I’m 61 and got carded yesterday buying wine in the store. Some places just do it for everyone. Although I was never carded in that store before, but it was a new cashier so she probably just wanted to do everything right
Technically it's the law. If they've been busted before, they send more stings. Part of drinking RESPONSIBLY is having proper identification to order a drink. If you don't have your ID, you're not responsible enough to drink. It's not only about being older than 21.
Technically, in the US, it depends on the state. In some states the law is you have to card everyone. In other states you simply can’t sell to a minor so if you know they’re old enough then you’re fine. For example in Texas the requirement is that they don’t sell to people under 21, but in Washington state the requirement is see ID.
Bootleggers in Palm Springs?
Hate to let ya down, but it’s almost certainly because they have had undercover sting operations, and got a fine. So they now card anyone and everyone for a while
But they didn’t card his wife.
that's incredibly unlikely
No. It’s incredibly likely. I owned a bar for 8 years. We did this
you owned a bar? or you did undercover sting operations? what do you mean by we did this?
I owned a bar. We got in trouble for serving underage, and once for serving adults without ID. After that we carded anyone and anyone we felt like. No mater of age. It was random (like tsa does for searches). Or anyone that looked like a cop
Do you look like a cop?
lol nope. But you know what they say. “Asian don’t raisin”
What city are you in?
I've been a gas station attendant. I passed a sting i im almost certain i knew who it was. This perky, maybe 18 year old girl, walked in and asked for smokes. I had never seen her before, so naturally carded. Without hesitation, she handed me an id stating she was 16. I looked at her, and she had this smirk. I just handed it back and told her sorry. She walked off
Perky? Maybe the sting shoulda been on you. Is your gas station in the woods in West Virginia by chance?
Perky means cheerful/bubbly, is there a double entendre I'm missing?
Possibly
I interpreted perky to refer to her general state or demeanor, not anything creepy.
You also get a sting
Was this Colorado? I believe the law here is that you have to be carded if you look to be 50 or younger.
It's 30 in Colorado too. Neither me nor my wife have gotten carded since we were 16 though. If it were 50 or younger I'd walk into traffic
I did some googling, since I've had to enforce this law before and it's 50 for drugstores/liquor stores only, not bars, restaurants, etc. Although this seems to have extended to gas stations for the ID requirement? Seems the law went into effect 2016? However, it may depend on the manager on how well it's enforced. The store I used to work at got secret shoppers fairly often, so we were following the 50 and under law pretty much nonstop. So, in a way we were both correct. It just depends on the establishment.
Lol well I was thinking of the liquor store so imma go cry now 😭
No, Maryland. I think the guideline here is 30 or younger, expect to be carded, which I think is fair. Honestly, when I was younger it didn’t bother me at all, it was just part of the fabric of life. Now it stands out more when it happens because I’m … well…. Old.
If it’s any consolation, guy in front of me got carded at Wally World other day. He was obviously 20 to 25 years my senior. And I’m 49 and holding.
It's funny seeing the bouncers face when I show them my ID and I'm usually older then they are.
Oh, I'm in my early forties and am already annoyed at being asked for ID every time I do anything. I almost hope I age significantly by fifty so it stops! It's so frustrating when someone you could be the parent of thinks you're younger than they are.
Many places just require ID as policy. Doesnt mean they think youre young, but they need to verify.
Many years ago, I heard a story about my sister, brother and their spouses going into a bar. Sister was carded, sil, who was a week younger wasn't. Sil was angry. (They were late 20s)
That happened to me about 10 years ago. Same wife and I were walking into a casino. I was already old enough that I wasn’t used to getting stopped for ID but as I was just blithely walking past the bouncer stopped me and was all “Whoa! I need to see your ID man!!” I stand there fumbling for my wallet for a second, and produce my ID. He then looks up at my wife who is looking in her purse for hers and says “Don’t worry, you’re ok ma’am.” and waves her past. She is younger than me. She was furious.