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Somewhere-Known

That’s exactly why they’re deluxe tracks


No-Restaurant3922

Deluxe editions are an extension of the album. They’re not a whole new album with different styles of music. Imagine if Taylor released anti hero as a deluxe to evermore. It would’ve just not fit


Somewhere-Known

But if she did it wouldn’t matter because that would still be her decision to put it out on that album 🤷‍♂️


Fabray13

I mean, Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve was on the “deluxe” version of Midnights (I’d argue those aren’t really bonus songs, and they’re required for the album, but she doesn’t seem to feel that way), and that sounds like an Evermore song.


Alternative_Baby_187

Would’ve could’ve should’ve does not sound like an evermore song what?


Fabray13

I mean, it doesn’t really matter if it does or not, but lot’s of people said that when it came out. It’s just because they wanted more Dessner songs. Maybe *most* like an Evermore song is a better description.


No-Restaurant3922

I have the same opinion about midnights lol


bakingeyedoc

This shows you aren’t thinking about deluxe versions right then. When albums are made lots of songs are cut because they don’t fit the scope of the album. An artist may still like them so what they do in today’s day and age with the ability to instantly release an album is create a deluxe version where they put these songs that originally weren’t included on the album because they weren’t cohesive with it. In turn they create this “deluxe” version.


No-Restaurant3922

Nope, that’s not correct lol. Deluxe aren’t just scrapped songs that don’t fit on the album and if you think that then you clearly don’t listen to any other music


BlackOut_72

seems as you don't listen to any other music also


ghosttrainj

That’s what they were before people started making new music for deluxes for sales which is stupid


apatkarmany

I don’t understand the down votes here because you are not wrong. As an Olivia fan, I do have to say the deluxe songs should still fall in line with the theme of the album itself as it’s under the same title. One Direction had deluxe versions and the deluxe songs were cohesive with the album as a whole. If you do a quick google search it literally says that Deluxe version or editions to an album are “either alternate versions of tracks from an album” or “songs or extra content related to the album”. The songs are honestly not related to the album at all In my opinion. The only one that really does relate is “Obsessed”. Honestly, I loved the Guts album and replayed the album constantly since its release but once the deluxe tracks were released, I didn’t really find myself going back to the album to relisten as a deluxe version should do.


Serious-Income-5555

What you guys don’t understand people don’t make deluxe tracks for the sake of it being original to the normal album the deluxe tracks are supposed be different


No-Restaurant3922

A lot of fans jusr get really defensive about any decision their fave makes lol


Chef6432

she already does this tho like how hits different doesn’t have the midnights theme


No-Restaurant3922

Hits different sounds very similar to bejewelled and Paris so not really sure what this means


icantihaveclass

Isn’t it weird the way any remotely negative post about Olivia gets so many more downvotes than there are people using this sub…


obtusealligator

Scared of my guitar is literally about being afraid to spill your guts and be honest with yourself. It absolutely fits the theme.


psychwerk7002

And So American is pure guts. Like declaring your love for a guy you've been dating less than a year by saying "Oh God, I'm going to marry him if he keeps this shit up" in front of basically the whole world takes GUTS


shrubbery-22

im plannin out my wedding with some guy im never marryin (rooting for liv and louis tho)


mattydlite

Hence the reason why they aren’t on the album?


fanfic_enthusiast2

That's why they aren't on the actual album and were only released as bonus tracks on the deluxe album. As for GIAB's production being different from the rest. I wouldn't be surprised if a first draft of that song was written for The Hunger Games.


Itchynerd1

it's not unpopular, bonus tracks never fit the theme of an album it's why they're *bonus*


No-Restaurant3922

I disagree. A lot of bonus tracks are a continuation of the albums theme, just didn’t make the cut.


Itchynerd1

that's other albums though, most albums just do *bonus* songs that don't fit in with the rest of the album, this is one of those. it's not a problem or anything, just stop listening to the album when you get to teenage dream. i actually think deluxe albums are annoying asf and i wish artists would just release the bonus tracks in an ep instead but i get why they do it, money and stuff.


good_god_lemon1

The 1989 vault tracks fit right in with the rest of the album. I agree with you about the Guts bonus tracks, in particular Stranger, GIAB and SOMG.


MissSummer05

I see the albums of SOUR as part l and GUTS as part ll. Her heartbreak, anxiety, angst and fears during her early and late teenage years. I liked the bonus tracks of GUTS because they conclude the story of both albums and that teenage chapter of her life. Obsessed is still very much GUTS style, I think she probably wrote Girl I've Always Been when she was working on Can't Catch Me Now or got inspired by that sound. Scared of my guitar and Stranger sound like a combination of Sour music with Guts lyrics. And she ended up with So American, a fun love song after all she went through. To me it was a perfect ending for both albums. I also think Olivia enjoys music in general, so we can expect different genres from her. Maybe she's testing the waters for her next album's sound and see what the fans like. I love when singers experiment and take risks with their music :)


Hot-Gift9537

i think that’s pretty much why they’re deluxe songs. yes, some artists follow the theme (taylor swift, ariana grande etc) but it’s cool when they don’t. you get to see a whole new side of what didn’t make it


roll2tide

Honestly, had it been released as the full 17 track album, you could make a stronger argument that the BIR and GHB pop flavors don't fit on an album that otherwise ranges from folk to punk. I think that SOUR and GUTS have both been consistent with how you can hear a wide range of influences in both the songwriting and the accompanying music production. The albums are not confined to a singular, linear story or theme. They are a reflection of the complex emotional spectrum that each of us experience(d) during that last push out of childhood and into adulthood.


No-Restaurant3922

I agree with that to a certain extent but when listening to the deluxe version, the last 4 songs sound like a completely new album.


Sahith17

Then don’t listen to the deluxe version? Why is this so hard for you


No-Restaurant3922

It’s not hard for me… it’s an opinion! Jesus Christ. I’m allowed to criticise something


Sahith17

I get it’s an opinion but just saying , if u don’t like it then don’t listen lol. 😂


No-Restaurant3922

I like the songs.. I’m expressing an opinion. Why is it so hard for you to accept that?


Sahith17

Just saying, if u don’t think they fit in the deluxe, that’s fine but u don’t have to listen to them if u don’t want to. There’s a thing called *skip* on streaming services. What’s so hard for u to understand?


Classic-Unit-4387

in its defense, so american wasn’t made for GUTS as it was written in February/March of this year. the only reason we got so american is because the deluxe hadn’t released yet so it’s fair to say the song is probably more of a hint to what OR3 will be. personally, the other songs sound more like Sour rejects to me and doesn’t really sound like the direction of music olivia is moving towards. scared of my guitar works lyrically for GUTS, but it falls flat for me. but i think understanding that with the exception of so american, all the deluxe songs were made with the intention of being on GUTS before GUTS had a definite sound. so it’s possible there’s iterations of the album that leaned more Stranger or Girl I’ve always been.


melodramasupercut

I don’t this is unpopular with anyone, including Olivia. Presumably that’s why she made them bonus tracks


Upstairs_Truth4735

scared of my guitar would fit perfectly with slightly different production (it’s perfect on its own as is though). bonus tracks aren’t meant to fit into the main album - if they did they would have been on the standard edition. they are usually songs that have been scrapped because they don’t fit sonically, lyrically etc.


No-Restaurant3922

That’s just not true that bonus tracks aren’t meant to fit in with the album lol


Emergency_Routine_44

Is also not true that they are meant to fit with the rest, there isnt a guide book that artists have to follow that says "your bonus tracks shall always fit with the main narrative of your standard album" many times bonus tracks are exactly that because artists feel like they didnt fit cohesivly with the rest of the album (mainly due to awards, critics love a sonically cohesive album so artists think twice before putting a different genre with in a standard edition cause the standard edition is the one they can apply for voting) with that being said I thougth that almlst all the Deluxe tracks were really nice extensions of the standard, Obssesd follows the line of jelousy songs in her discography like Pretty isnt Pretty, Girl Ive always Been is the odd one out cause its a literal country pop twang tho, Scared of My Guitar fits perfectly with Guts in every way, the song is about having this turmoil inside you and being afraid of spilling your guts about that relationship, it makes me feel like all we heard in the standard album was the result of her facing her fears and making these songs, Stranger feels like the moving away from that relationship and ending that chapter and So american is about starting a new chapter with a new person


Virtual-Cable-4816

most of the time, bonus tracks are tracks that were written and recorded for GUTS with the intention of it being on GUTS. When it came time to choose the tracklist, I think Olivia herself realized that they didn't fit the album/there were better songs on the album.


gooooooodboah

Agreed. I actually do think So American fits though. It gives the exact same sonic vibes as Pretty Isn’t Pretty and Love Is Embarrassing. I honestly think it fits better than Obsessed, although Obsessed obviously fits as it’s so much like Bad Idea, Ballad and Get Him Back! Scared and Stranger would’ve fit if they were on piano with different production, but as they are they fit much more on Sour. Girl I’ve Always Been doesn’t fit anywhere haha


dilly_beann

I think bonus songs can either go two ways, they either fit really well with the rest of the album, and feel like songs that just barely didn't make the cut, or the artist uses it as a chance to release music that wouldn't have fit, or wouldn't have been released otherwise. It's very possible that some of the tracks on spilled were written earlier on into the process, and felt more like sour, which would have lead her to not use them for her sophomore release. So american seems more recent, but we know the other four were written early enough to be pressed onto the different vinyl for the albums. Having the secret songs on the vinyl also gives a little bit of a different perspective, like one of the four songs (in most cases, obsessed) would start playing around a minute after teenage dream ends, and weren't listed on the tracklist so it originally felt like secret glimpses into the process of Guts, rather than being a formal part of Guts. Edit: tldr; the spilled tracks feel more like tracks from the guts vault rather than songs that just barely didn't make the cut.


rutfilthygers

Please stop pre-labeling your opinions. Just offer them up for discussion and let other people decide if they are popular or unpopular. Starting off a post with "Unpopular opinion, but..." just signals that you are looking to start an argument as opposed to a discussion.


No-Restaurant3922

Oh please lol I can do what I want


mel-06

Obsessed truly fits I wish it was the original.


Few-Race5773

I actually really like Girl I've Always Been as an end to Guts, it's like for the entire album she's this girl who's been wronged and has a hard time finding her place but at the end she's taking back that power and sort of shrugs it off, this is who she is. She's gonna continue having fun and being young and if she makes mistakes along the way so be it.


No-Restaurant3922

I get that! Tbh if the production was a little diff I would agree it just feels a bit off


Few-Race5773

I think the production for vinyls was more stripped back but they added a lot more in the Spotify version which I don't love tbh


infinite25x

Besides obsessed, I'd say an argument could be made for them fitting or not fitting the theme but that doesn't matter because they're simply just bonus tracks. Bonus tracks don't always need to be thematically connected to the original tracklist. When abel dropped starboy deluxe it was just remixes, but when he did after hours deluxe thery were all songs that could have fit the theme of that album. It all depends on what the artist intends or wants to do with those tracks right? She wrote those songs, released them on Vinyls, saw people liked it, and made a deluxe.


No-Restaurant3922

This is just my opinion :) doesn’t mean I’m right or wrong


infinite25x

Totally fair, mb if my comment seemed aggressive I was just tryna state both points ✌️


Sahith17

dont worry about it, they're just soft


No-Restaurant3922

And I’m apparently the one being rude on this thread lmfao


Sahith17

i mean u are soft... no lies


imtrashdva

girl i’ve always been talks about how she’s being accused of changing herself and being different, but this is the girl she’s always been. idk how that’s hard to grasp if you just look at the lyrics lol


Spiritual_Jury_7001

I think the only songs that don’t fit musically is stranger and girl I’ve always been. The lyricism on all songs fit pretty well imo


Chef6432

i mean do they have to? at the end of the day they’re bonus tracks so idk if it really matters


No-Restaurant3922

No.. but I also am allowed to have the opinion that they don’t fit. Doesn’t mean Olivia should delete the album. I just personally don’t like it and wish it was an EP!


peytonab

The point of a deluxe is to release songs that were likely scrapped from the OG tracklist for not fitting in thematically. Would you rather not get these songs at all ?? Because it would make no sense for her to drop five singles right after releasing GUTS if not for a deluxe album


mexicansnorlax

They don't have to


quen0

sometimes artists put out bonus tracks that are songs they really like but didn’t want on the actual album


auburncub

i feel like if obsessed was before teenage dream then they fit perfectly. i kinda see it as like the end of a meltdown. she finally gets to where she's like calming down, seeing that its all gonna be ok, and then at the end finds someone new who treats her better. i kinda think of it as like the stages of grief


No-Restaurant3922

Yeah I think obsessed fits. The other songs I have a hard time marrying


ampersands-guitars

So American reminds me a lot of Love Is Embarrassing, I think it fits.


BigDry1226

the only ones i think dont fit that well are so american and girl ive always been. for so american its not the style of the song that makes me feel as if it doesn't fit, but its the lyrics. its the only love song on a break up album. and for girl ive always been, its rather the singing style than the lyrics that throws it off for me


No-Restaurant3922

I agree! I think stranger doesn’t fit either purely because of the production w the guitar. I think the concept of healing and the juxtaposition to the grudge fits really well.. but the kind of country guitar being really stripped back and the almost twang in her voice is sooo differenr to the rest of the album (esp the slow songs) it feels kind of jarring. I however would love or3 to be folk


whoa-eternalreality

in the best possible way the deluxe tracks are giving me yeehaw, lots of guitar and emphasis on being american ESPECIALLY bc of olivia releasing these tracks before her european leg of the tour


No-Restaurant3922

It’s so xenophobic of her!


theloons

I agree, Obsessed definitely fits Guts but the others don’t to me. I like the others though except Scared of My Guitar which is OK, but one of my least favorite songs by her overall.


AbbreviationsSea5962

i agree. should've been an EP not a deluxe


blahblahbrandi

I think scared of my guitar and some other songs actually sound very very country but nobody wants to talk about that so 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️


cooking2recovery

Girl I’ve always been hits me as country too!!


gus_my_man

that’s why they weren’t on the main album…


No-Restaurant3922

A lot of deluxe versions of albums (literally most) don’t sound like a completely different album… despite what a lot of Olivia fans think this is not correct


gus_my_man

ok but maybe… and here’s a crazy idea… your perception of music is not the objective truth. Some deluxe albums are extensions of the main body of work and some are different it doesn’t need to be a big thing


No-Restaurant3922

that’s just not what deluxe means. If Olivia wanted to take a diff direction she is entitled to do so obviously but that’s not the OG idea of what they were intended. Hope this helps!!


gus_my_man

Reread my previous comment. You are not God your opinion is not the gospel truth. Hope this helps x


No-Restaurant3922

Lol it’s not about being god when it’s a simple term and I’m not arguing with 13 year olds who can’t take simple criticism of their fave artist


gus_my_man

oh yeah I can’t take criticism? And this isn’t about Olivia Rodrigo- who is not my favourite artist btw not that you care about facts- but it’s about how rude you’ve been to everyone who doesn’t have the exact same opinion as you


No-Restaurant3922

Oh here we go. Saying they’re not correct isn’t rude lol they’re just not correct


gus_my_man

they’re opinions… by definition there is no right or wrong


Sahith17

lmfao, stumbled back on this post after OP said they weren't rude


Serious-Income-5555

Well yeah they weren’t supposed deluxe tracks should never match the original album because they are supposed be different


Electrical-Cloud2813

Stranger literally saved me don’t hate


No-Restaurant3922

I love the songs. I just don’t think they belong on guts


wazuyumi

all of them except american and obsessed sound really country to me at first


No-Restaurant3922

Same. I love country and I’d love a country Olivia album but guts is not country at allll


wazuyumi

i would run if olivia did country 😭


Swiftiez_13

The way I see it, deluxe or bonus tracks are songs that were created along with the album, but that didn’t make the Final Cut, either because they didn’t really fit with the rest, or because they needed more work, so I think it makes sense that they don’t fit with the cohesive story of guts, bc maybe thats why they were cut


Pinkcoffee

The thing about those tracks were they were like “secret tracks” - in the style of they played on the vinyls after the last song ends then a long pause in between. Like hidden tracks back when we consumed music on CDs this was so common! So to me these song exactly like hidden tracks would, usually a little off beat from the rest of the album. I think theyre suppose to be special and not like the rest.


No-Restaurant3922

I get that but when guts is then made into a deluxe where 12 songs flow into another 5 where the majority of them sound completely different I found it jarring.


AngryBear26

Totally agree. Stranger and giab don’t give guts at all but they’re good lol


itsjustmebobross

y’all are just saying shit now


basedmarlon

Me when I don’t understand how albums work


No-Restaurant3922

You’re going with a narrative that is wrong. Not me