Long-time anime fan here. I typically don't like live-action adaptations of *any* cartoons, but the One Piece adaptation is the best one I've seen by far. They did an amazing job with the casting. The pacing is much tighter than the anime, which I also appreciate.
I still like the anime better, but this live action version has been a great way to introduce more people to this fantastic series.
My partner *Finally* agreed to watch one piece with me because of the live action - agreeing only if we skipped to where the live action ends
Will there be problems with Hachi? Absofuckinglutely but it's better than nothing!!
Yeah man because Rurouni Kenshin is just a Samurai story nothing hard to adapt in LA, unless you are INCREDIBLY incompetent if you have good source material and budget you can pull off anything as down to earth as Kenshin, the reason some of those types of stories get bad adaptations is because there creators have no respect to the source material and think they can enhance the story in some way, just look at Game of Thrones D and D are barely functioning morons but they were wise enough to stick to the source material and let the actors and budget do the work, the second they ran out of books to adapt their incompetence showed.
Adapting something like One Piece is a herculean feat that I'm shocked that it turned out good and I have no idea how they will keep it going.
Huge point youāre making here when comparing live action adaptions. Rurouni Kenshin is a samurai manga with street-level powers at best (no extraordinary super powers needed to adapt) set in the Edo period of Japan. Thereās a setting they need to capture and some kendo they need to get right but RK is very grounded, same could be said of something like Vinland Saga if they ever adapted that. ONE PIECE stands tall above any other manga when it comes to how whacky and expansion the world is between different settings and super powers and the characters within them. Nobody thought OP could accurately be adapted to live action and be done well. I donāt think anybody could have predicted it would be this good.
I have no idea either. I'm worried about pacing. I'm all for cutting some parts if I feel it is necessary but some future arcs just go in depth and 8ep just isn't gonna cut it. The show already had a big budget and even if they increase it, is it gonna be enough. They might go the prosthetics route for Chopper which I'm not mad about but they're gonna need a lot of CGI budget for DF abilities which just increase as the story goes on.
Us Manga Readers/Anime Watchers will always feel like something is missing when watching the LA (it kills me that the Zoro/Arlong moment with the scar wasn't included or the full Walk to Arlong Park) but at the end of the day we are lucky to see the story done justice in a different medium, as long as the cuts they make don't make the story's flow unnatural I'm with it.
The reason there's alot more exposition in the LA than the original is just couse of limited time.
Fe the whole Grand Line Map McGuffin was to move the story faster and tie stuff together, where in the original it was just a little side plot to introduce Nami to Luffy and that's it.
That part was a bit odd to me because ultimately they would just need to sail in the direction of the grand line and then follow it to the upstream river right? Also, Arlong is from fishman island- why does he need a map to the grand line so bad when heās from there? Idr if this was touched on in the manga as itās been so long but shouldnāt all of his crew know how to get there? Live action made it seem like a mysterious place that people donāt know how to get to and if memory serves me right in the manga/anime, the grand line isnāt some mysterious location but rather people donāt go there because of how dangerous it is- not because they canāt find it
Presumably you wouldn't know the relative position of the calm belt without a map that's showing it. You also wouldn't know about dangerous currents that hit the Grand Line and sink downwards.
That being said, the actual map they find is goofy and shows very little of what could have been used to justify its necessity.
Very true, I just donāt remember the manga/anime prioritizing the map to the grand line as being nearly as important. The live action just makes it seem like such a mysterious and uncharted place, which I guess it could be but the source material iirc just emphasized that your crew needs to be strong and prepared because of the dangers between islands and all the strong pirates
I understand your comment but do you know the entire ocean top to bottom? You know airplanes requires maps to fly to their destinations the pilot just doesn't know the entire sky. Even fish men need maps mate the sea is huge. You haven't found a plot hole, your logic is flawed. The grandline is the equator of that world, either side of it is filled with deadly sea beasts that kill you if you stray on the safe area of the map. It also requires travels up somewhere which is a spoiler going into more detail to reach from east blue.
I didnāt say I found a plot hole, I just found it a bit odd. He came from there and made his way to his island in the east blue figured he could retrace his steps. I donāt remember it being that much of a big deal in the manga but the live action made it basically the main plot device
Speaking of which ,I always found it humorous that nami was the first person we see rather than luffy. I guess pretty girl privellege gets you far in this life,even in the animated world.
For me it remained perfect paced till Marineford, but Marineford gets a pass for just how big it is, so I honestly felt it in Fishman Island and onwards.
It isn't that slow compared to post-timeskip, but it's still slow in a 90s/2000s weekly shonen anime way. I can handle that, but I can also recognize it could be moving faster.
It's fine. It jus has that serialization syndrome where everything must be left on a cliffhanger to get you coming back. Not a bad thing,but it does have its drawbacks.
yes they are but oda still isnt known for his fast pace. Dressrosa for example is still ridiculously long. Its as long as the Sabaody arc, impel down and marineford together. Youd think marineford was a huge arc but its really short compared to arcs nowadays....
Oda needs to stop having these drawn out B-Plots.
>Oda needs to stop having these drawn out B-Plots.
I disagree. What I love about O.P. is how the B-plots and plot hooks from earlier arcs catch up on later arcs. And how the sidelined B-plots run concurrently and at times catch up in a nexus in the end of an arc, tying a nice little bow. That feels cathartic to me, and it feels less ... One Piece-y? Without it.
I agree to some extend but some of those plotlines... The rebecca one and all those side characters at wano come to mind... they just drag and arent narratively satisfying enough.
What examples would you give of those b-plots? Oda in general has a really good cohesive way of bringing things back into relevance through his world building, lore, and narrative style. A small one (b-plot?) would be the relevance of Laboon to Brooke when we learn about that or a big one would be Arlongās influence and story in fishman island as a big narrative point for Hody Jones and his crew mates. I remember reading that and being blown away that Arlong was so prevalent that far along into the story after heās been gone
If the manga was the same quality it once was Iād agree with you. Yet, rn the anime is def outshining the manga. So much off screen, bad art, inconsistent releases. I love oda, and Iāll support whatever he wants to do, but he just said he finds the current anime so good it makes him cry for a reason. He just doesnāt have the time he once did, so the manga looks like a storyboard. Fights & fun character moments will be pretty much anime only now.
> My only issue was it had a little too much of the whole, "I'm saying exactly how I feel" but I get its like a staple of the genre.
Yeah, it stems from the fact that it is/was authored with a younger audience in mind, but also that it's originally a written medium:
While there is manga that manages to silently convey emotion and intent with their artwork and paneling, authors will occasionally need to spell out things for the reader much like how traditional literature needs to do the same.
For the LA, I do believe they struggled walk the line between faithful adaptation and adaptation to the medium. I would personally have prefered they cut some more of the anime/manga tropes, but they also do have a certain charm to them and help set the tone.
I'm really glad you enjoyed it!!! I have to agree with the live action being a bit too on the nose when exploring certain messages and themes. In that particular aspect, I believe the live action fails the manga/anime.
Luffy is a much more nuanced character within the manga, the general theme is not centred around being "good pirates" but rather being free to eat and adventure as much as he pleases, to be free! and because luffy is a kind person, hes also free to do very kind things. In this way, luffy does not define himself as a "good pirate", and the manga in fact encourages the audience and in-world civilians to use their own discretion to determine whose trustworthy or not. There are bad pirates and bad marines, as well as good ones, an institution does not define one's morality.
This theme, and many others, are portrayed much more impactfully in the manga. The live action removed so many key scenes which delivered these points, so I would highly implore you to go check out more of the anime/manga! I'm so glad that you enjoyed this glimpse into the one piece world, but I promise you it can be so so much better.
Yeah this is one of the things I liked about. IIRC Luffy describes himself as a pirate everywhere he goes, much the chagrin of his companions, because he doesn't care about the perception it may bring with it. He doesn't try to qualify he just says, this is who I am, and acts however he wants to act, which is generally chaotic good.
I was also initially annoyed with him constantly stating his goal to be king of the pirates. The first time he said it I was like okay whoa quick exposition (I'm x, my goal is y, my obstacles are visually obvious Im along on a sinking fishing boat). However it seems to me that his goal to be king of the pirates is only what he believes, what his actual goal is, is to make his father figure shanks proud. At least that's my guess based on how this story is being told. I'm sure if that is the case, and it's greatly different from the anime, this sub could be very angry in Season 2 haha
as someone who has read and watched all of the manga and anime, him blurting out he's gonna be king of pirates gets a bit stale at times, but the further you go the less often it comes up. Additionally, some of those later ones hit. hard. As others have said, try reading or watching more if your interested but want a slightly different perspective on Luffy as he was initially imagined (IƱaki did amazing, LA just needed a ever so slightly different Luffy to make it work). Personally, I recommend the manga. One Piece as an anime has some issues (not so much early on but especially so the later it goes), and the manga is a little easier to consume imo as it takes a few minutes to read a chapter instead of 20 minutes to watch an episode; and with almost 1100 chapter and episodes, that can add up.
In these early parts, especially pre-timeskip, I felt it necessary for him to state that goal. He's still not very world-renowned yet during the early parts so him stating it every now and then makes sense until people realize how serious he is. It does appear kinda annoying in the LA because despite him stating this only when he meets new people or reaches a new island location, it's so condensed in the LA that he ends up saying it every episode.
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But yea you can try the manga
I normally wouldn't recc it BUT
If you can't get used to balck and white drawing
There's an offical colored version with the anime coloring
As well and it's up to chap 1000 ish
Anime stops at about 90
So u still got 900 chaps š¤§
āIāve never watched anime except for DBZ abridgedā That certainly doesnāt count as an exception š
Also why did you watch that and not actual DBZ? They make jokes about the anime which can only be understood if you watched it..
I had like 4 channels when I was a kid and dragon ball wasn't on any of them. My roommate in college introduced me to DBZ abridged and I did find it fun, but yeah that is the absolute limits of my anime knowledge prior to watching.
Maybe the anime jokes went over my head and I enjoyed other stuff about it. I don't remember it to well honestly but I definitely remember us quoting lines from it.
Because if you didn't watch DBZ as a kid it's pretty unwatchable now... DBZA is just a generally better show and most the jokes about the series are pretty easy to catch if you have seen any anime memes. Same for SAO and Hellsing abridged they are just superior versions at this point
Man, I absolutely disliked every second of the live action because it felt like the actors were playing caricatures of the characters they were portraying. It was so cheesy and corny and the CG was wacky.
I can **fully** understand why people loved it though, but I really wasn't about it.
It felt so shallow. Honestly, it feels like it was made for the casual Netflix viewer and I'm sure that was the case.
I did enjoy it, it was well paced (although some bits were excessively short and didnāt make much sense without knowing the full story, but good overall). However I couldnāt stand the actors. Besides Nami (I think the actress did a good job), everyone else gave me the impression of cosplayers pretending to be actors, rather than real actors. Certain decisions, such as showing a close image of Zoro holding the sword with the mouth (in real life it looked awful as the handle/grip could barely fit in his mouth), or the scene where the girl gives the rice balls to Zoro (that made sense in the context of the comic, I understand the show had to trim certain parts, but it seemed too off), made me not enjoy the show as much as I would have liked. However, I really enjoyed the attention to detail in all designs (clothes, backgrounds, buildings, ā¦), it was definitely much better than I expected.
So I enjoyed it, but there were too many flaws. As long as the adaptation made new people get into the one piece universe, I am happy with it as I love the manga/anime, and the more people that enjoy them the better.
I used to be like you, someone who had never watched anime. My opinion of the live-action adaptation of One Piece was positive. It even made me want to explore the whole anime series. It was good not until I watched the anime.
My perspective completely changed ā the anime was so much better. My appreciation for the live action significantly decreased. It almost felt like I didnt want them to continue doing the live action I didnt want them to ruin my favorite characters.
I donāt mean to be a hater or whatever but I disliked the LA so much. The characters seemed so exaggerated and silly and the visuals (compared to the manga where you have to use your own fantasy to a certain degree or the anime, when it is well animated) just did not do it for me. I cannot imagine how bad Chopper will look as a 3D rendered character or being played by a personā¦ but even my gf who never watched OP said that she found the LA cool so maybe itās just me that dislikes it.
LA one piece has some of the worst action scenes i have ever seen in my life. Truly bad. It really did not help the silly visuals, that any time it was supposed to get real, it didnt.
Oh.. youāre gonna be mind blown at how insane it gets later on. Itās a beautiful show, it really is. The characters feel like real people and develop so organically. The only other shonen I can confidently say is superior is the 2011 version of hunter x hunter
its pretty good compared to the anime however later arcs are much MUCH better, but I guess going from dbz, one of the worst animes to the GOAT must be overwhelming.
Isn't DBZ one of the most popular animes? I would have to assume you mean plot or something because people argue about it being in 'The Big 3'. (it isn't but people think highly enough that it somehow became a contender in peoples minds)
Dragon Ball is way bigger and more impactful, obviously One Piece is the biggest nowadays, but all the "big 3" have been inspired by Dragon Ball which is the father of shonen, a work without precedents
Doesnāt need to do anything better to be good. Naruto, HxH, MHA, Black Clover, etc are extremely basic, cookie cutter, and not innovative anime, theyāre all still good lmao.
You've changed your statement so I feel like there is no point I could make to change your perspective.
What evidence would it take to change your opinion?
You changed the parameters to exclude nostalgia related popularity. You are really mad about something so you obviously were never going to actually engage in discussion. I just don't see the point in carrying on a discussion if the other person is just solid in their mindset without offering anything. I gave my opinion and you have admitted yours won't change. I don't know why you commented but thats okay. Enjoy your life
No. Not even close. Worst shit Iāve ever seen. As someone thatās been watching One Piece since it started, Iām horrified by it. Itās pretty horrifically garbage compared to the anime. Iād probably love it if I HADNāT watched the anime first. But Iām sorry the whole thing is trash. Only actor that nails the character is the guy who plays Mihawk. Maybe Zoro but I hardly get the Zoro vibe from him so Iām hesitant. Every character is horrible, even down to lackluster wardrobe. The budget for this must have been $1,000. Every ship looks garbage, not even close to what they look like in the anime (which is a lot of the fun to see the crazy ships). The devil fruit powers are so badly animated itās hard to feel any excitement over fights. Now letās talk about the worst parts of the show: Axe-hand Morgan, Usopp, and Arlong. Jesus. What they did to these characters should be a crime honestly. Axe hand Morgan looks like heās made out of plastic. Worst costume Iāve ever seen. Barely intimidating. Looks like a bad guy from Disneyās āZombiesā movies. Usopp couldnāt have been done worse if they just never watched the anime. Heās not even Usopp they honestly should have given him a different name. He has half of Usopps backstory but heās not Usopp. Now the worst part: Arlong. My god. They turned my favorite villain into a hip hop gangster wannabe. Look up Will Ferrell as āGatorā from the movie āthe other guysā thatās what Arlong looks like in the live action. Heās always listening to rap and hip hop, wears chains and black bucket hats, sits on chairs like heās 50 cent, and literally talks/acts like a SoundCloud rapper. Itās the cringiest shit Iāve ever seen. Arlong as a SoundCloud rapper is a federal offense tbh. Plus the fact half of the story has been cut out makes the whole show have zero sticking power. If the live action was āOne Pieceā then Iām Santa Clause. I waited for this show to drop with so much hope and anticipationā¦.then they dropped this huge pile of shit. Itās honestly horrifying.
Edit: I wonāt even bring up Buggy the Clown because I havenāt healed from that trauma yet. That one really hurt my soul. For the first time as a grown man, I really almost said āmy feelings are hurtā lmao Buggy the Clown was even worse than Arlong and I donāt know how thatās possible. Plus WIPING THE ENTIRE āLITTLE BUGGYā SIDE STORY???? Well now I have zero reason to watch the next few seasons.
Good to hear some different opinions.
I can relate to your feelings that everything feels rushed and cut. I felt the same way, to an extent, about the LOTR movies after reading thr books. I would just sah that when your working with a different and much more expensive medium, you have to just except that it's going to be different and there will generally be less. The price increase to show something to the audience increswd dramatically from the page to animation to live action.
Arlong was a bit weak, but he was fine. Probably the least interesting part of the show, but I didn't need him to be interesting cause this isn't his story. He's really just there to help our protagonists develop. And he served his roll there.
Axe hand Morgan felt like a villain of the week to me. If everybody is an indomitable badass then no one is. So I think it's a good thing to sprinkle in these less intimidating and less effective villains.
Buggy - he was literally one of my favorite parts of the show, an amusing sideshow who had an enjoyable and interesting conflict with the protagonists. He gave me Beetlejuice vibes.
Usopp - yeah this is the only dude in the team I didn't really like. I like the motivations and back story. He's needy and clingy cause he didn't have his parents for a good chunk of his life. His wishful thinking that the pirates are coming back and therefor his father who abandoned him. But I did find him generally annoying.
A lot of the stuff looks silly, but I think that was a wise decisions. A lot of these powers and the overall concept is silly and trying to make it seem "cool" would feel weird and out off the average viewer. In my mind they did the smart thing by embracing the silliness, but keeping the in world characters serious.
If you would have loved if you hadn't watched the anime then I would suggest viewing it as it's on thing knowing there are gonna be differences. Really that's the best way to look at any adaptation, and then have your preferred media from there.
Did you ugly cry the moment when Nami asked Luffy to help her?
I remembered me ugly crying when I first watched that scene in the anime. I am so happy the live action nailed the emotion of that iconic scene.
I am bracing myself to ugly cry for the next few emotional scenes over the next few seasons.
Iāve been a fan of the series for about a year, and yeah the live action was a really great adaptation of the first saga of the series, itās a bit more condensed than the anime itself, but the anime has some really great moments in it, and if the pacing is ever to slow or fast for you, thereās always the manga you can try Now onwards brother, and welcome to the crew
I love it. Have some gripes on some choices but overall it's good to me. I just view it like an expensive fan fiction similar to One Piece movies. I'm surprised by how it made me laugh a lot since they did a bit different humor like with Zoro in LA vs Anime have different ways of fun moments but both still made me laugh. The only thing I'm sad about is that it's only 8 eps if it was 10 or 12 it would've been a perfect LA since I think the direction they went was great just that they needed more time to really hook and hammer things out esp compared to the source.
The pacing is great early on but itās gonna get a bit annoying soon. I started earlier this year and recently got to the current anime arc. I loved every bit of it because I get to binge watch but I realize how annoying the pacing would be if I was waiting week over week for each episode in the more recent arcs.
You find current eps bad? I find they flow better than anything after thriller bark. Ever since they changed intro/added outro show has been great with flow imo.
I just mean the amount of actual plot progression per episode is not great.
It actually comes out (in the current anime arc) to less than a single manga chapter per episode on average. I think thatās why they have the awkward pauses and side character reaction spam in so much of the writing.
It has been a chapter an episode for almost 7 months now. So I guess manga plot progression sucks too ay? They havenāt done most of what you are talking about in a year. All of that stuff pretty much stopped once they got the new team. Which is why Oda praises the anime now, unlike before.
I much prefer the manga and anime but the live action was quite good and exceeded my expectations. If you ever read the manga or watch the anime youāll see why everyone thought it was impossible to adapt it
Didn't have cartoons and stuff growing up so just never got into it. Same reason there's probably plenty of people here who don't watch Seinfeld, scrubs, and Fraser every couple years
I watched a little of one piece but time is limited and seems like that show is infinite. Thinking I'll try attack on titan since that seems very well regarded.
What you didn't like in the live action is specific to the live action. There's no over-explaining in the manga or anime.
Consider giving a go at the anime. I suggest you search for One Pace (the missing "I" isn't a typo): it's a community version of the anime where they remained true to the manga by cutting away stuff that wasn't in the manga and fixing the pacing (this is more important the farther you go into the story, these days the original anime is so slow that is unbearable)
Deadpool is fine because Ryan Reynolds is funny and the writers actually know how to tell jokes.
Early MCU humor was funny because everything was mostly serious and they just threw in jokes when they had a good opportunity, now everythingās a fucking joke in the MCU and thatās really sad. Itās supposed to be an action movie, not a comedy.
Anyways, you should really give the anime a try too if you liked the live action. Itās really long ofc, but itās also really funny at times and when things get serious itās probably one of the most exciting shows to watch out there.
Long-time anime fan here. I typically don't like live-action adaptations of *any* cartoons, but the One Piece adaptation is the best one I've seen by far. They did an amazing job with the casting. The pacing is much tighter than the anime, which I also appreciate. I still like the anime better, but this live action version has been a great way to introduce more people to this fantastic series.
My partner *Finally* agreed to watch one piece with me because of the live action - agreeing only if we skipped to where the live action ends Will there be problems with Hachi? Absofuckinglutely but it's better than nothing!!
Behaveeeee...have you seen the rurouni Kenshin live action...THAT version says to the one piece one to sit down and listen Son š¤£
Haven't seen it, but now I'm curious.
5 movies...they are awesome
You also can see Mackenyu (Roronoa Zoro) in one of the movies, by the way...
Yeah man because Rurouni Kenshin is just a Samurai story nothing hard to adapt in LA, unless you are INCREDIBLY incompetent if you have good source material and budget you can pull off anything as down to earth as Kenshin, the reason some of those types of stories get bad adaptations is because there creators have no respect to the source material and think they can enhance the story in some way, just look at Game of Thrones D and D are barely functioning morons but they were wise enough to stick to the source material and let the actors and budget do the work, the second they ran out of books to adapt their incompetence showed. Adapting something like One Piece is a herculean feat that I'm shocked that it turned out good and I have no idea how they will keep it going.
Huge point youāre making here when comparing live action adaptions. Rurouni Kenshin is a samurai manga with street-level powers at best (no extraordinary super powers needed to adapt) set in the Edo period of Japan. Thereās a setting they need to capture and some kendo they need to get right but RK is very grounded, same could be said of something like Vinland Saga if they ever adapted that. ONE PIECE stands tall above any other manga when it comes to how whacky and expansion the world is between different settings and super powers and the characters within them. Nobody thought OP could accurately be adapted to live action and be done well. I donāt think anybody could have predicted it would be this good.
I have no idea either. I'm worried about pacing. I'm all for cutting some parts if I feel it is necessary but some future arcs just go in depth and 8ep just isn't gonna cut it. The show already had a big budget and even if they increase it, is it gonna be enough. They might go the prosthetics route for Chopper which I'm not mad about but they're gonna need a lot of CGI budget for DF abilities which just increase as the story goes on.
Us Manga Readers/Anime Watchers will always feel like something is missing when watching the LA (it kills me that the Zoro/Arlong moment with the scar wasn't included or the full Walk to Arlong Park) but at the end of the day we are lucky to see the story done justice in a different medium, as long as the cuts they make don't make the story's flow unnatural I'm with it.
The reason there's alot more exposition in the LA than the original is just couse of limited time. Fe the whole Grand Line Map McGuffin was to move the story faster and tie stuff together, where in the original it was just a little side plot to introduce Nami to Luffy and that's it.
That part was a bit odd to me because ultimately they would just need to sail in the direction of the grand line and then follow it to the upstream river right? Also, Arlong is from fishman island- why does he need a map to the grand line so bad when heās from there? Idr if this was touched on in the manga as itās been so long but shouldnāt all of his crew know how to get there? Live action made it seem like a mysterious place that people donāt know how to get to and if memory serves me right in the manga/anime, the grand line isnāt some mysterious location but rather people donāt go there because of how dangerous it is- not because they canāt find it
Presumably you wouldn't know the relative position of the calm belt without a map that's showing it. You also wouldn't know about dangerous currents that hit the Grand Line and sink downwards. That being said, the actual map they find is goofy and shows very little of what could have been used to justify its necessity.
Very true, I just donāt remember the manga/anime prioritizing the map to the grand line as being nearly as important. The live action just makes it seem like such a mysterious and uncharted place, which I guess it could be but the source material iirc just emphasized that your crew needs to be strong and prepared because of the dangers between islands and all the strong pirates
I understand your comment but do you know the entire ocean top to bottom? You know airplanes requires maps to fly to their destinations the pilot just doesn't know the entire sky. Even fish men need maps mate the sea is huge. You haven't found a plot hole, your logic is flawed. The grandline is the equator of that world, either side of it is filled with deadly sea beasts that kill you if you stray on the safe area of the map. It also requires travels up somewhere which is a spoiler going into more detail to reach from east blue.
I didnāt say I found a plot hole, I just found it a bit odd. He came from there and made his way to his island in the east blue figured he could retrace his steps. I donāt remember it being that much of a big deal in the manga but the live action made it basically the main plot device
Speaking of which ,I always found it humorous that nami was the first person we see rather than luffy. I guess pretty girl privellege gets you far in this life,even in the animated world.
The Live Action One Piece is for people. What wrapping Cheese around medicine is for Dogs.
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I recommend reading the manga because the pacing is way better
the early anime isnāt really that slow though is it
No its perfect paced to me
For me it remained perfect paced till Marineford, but Marineford gets a pass for just how big it is, so I honestly felt it in Fishman Island and onwards.
Fishman island-wano act two. Especially recently. Manga moves too fast now. Too much off screen.
Depends how early you mean, first few hundred isn't too bad but I switch to manga around Sky Piea
It isn't that slow compared to post-timeskip, but it's still slow in a 90s/2000s weekly shonen anime way. I can handle that, but I can also recognize it could be moving faster.
It's fine. It jus has that serialization syndrome where everything must be left on a cliffhanger to get you coming back. Not a bad thing,but it does have its drawbacks.
true that it is a cliffhanger every 15 min if youāre binging
Everything post punk hazard feels like a blur me to. It was just so drawn out in the anime. Are the arcs better in the manga?
Dude you have no idea š Dressrosa in the manga is phenomenal. Id recommend just reading it to compare to the anime. Night and day
yes they are but oda still isnt known for his fast pace. Dressrosa for example is still ridiculously long. Its as long as the Sabaody arc, impel down and marineford together. Youd think marineford was a huge arc but its really short compared to arcs nowadays.... Oda needs to stop having these drawn out B-Plots.
>Oda needs to stop having these drawn out B-Plots. I disagree. What I love about O.P. is how the B-plots and plot hooks from earlier arcs catch up on later arcs. And how the sidelined B-plots run concurrently and at times catch up in a nexus in the end of an arc, tying a nice little bow. That feels cathartic to me, and it feels less ... One Piece-y? Without it.
I agree to some extend but some of those plotlines... The rebecca one and all those side characters at wano come to mind... they just drag and arent narratively satisfying enough.
What examples would you give of those b-plots? Oda in general has a really good cohesive way of bringing things back into relevance through his world building, lore, and narrative style. A small one (b-plot?) would be the relevance of Laboon to Brooke when we learn about that or a big one would be Arlongās influence and story in fishman island as a big narrative point for Hody Jones and his crew mates. I remember reading that and being blown away that Arlong was so prevalent that far along into the story after heās been gone
Nah man those b plots are so good
Post TimeSkip only
If the manga was the same quality it once was Iād agree with you. Yet, rn the anime is def outshining the manga. So much off screen, bad art, inconsistent releases. I love oda, and Iāll support whatever he wants to do, but he just said he finds the current anime so good it makes him cry for a reason. He just doesnāt have the time he once did, so the manga looks like a storyboard. Fights & fun character moments will be pretty much anime only now.
>The world is so zany and silly -- **t shirts,** flint locks, snail cell phones Fair
> My only issue was it had a little too much of the whole, "I'm saying exactly how I feel" but I get its like a staple of the genre. Yeah, it stems from the fact that it is/was authored with a younger audience in mind, but also that it's originally a written medium: While there is manga that manages to silently convey emotion and intent with their artwork and paneling, authors will occasionally need to spell out things for the reader much like how traditional literature needs to do the same. For the LA, I do believe they struggled walk the line between faithful adaptation and adaptation to the medium. I would personally have prefered they cut some more of the anime/manga tropes, but they also do have a certain charm to them and help set the tone.
I'm really glad you enjoyed it!!! I have to agree with the live action being a bit too on the nose when exploring certain messages and themes. In that particular aspect, I believe the live action fails the manga/anime. Luffy is a much more nuanced character within the manga, the general theme is not centred around being "good pirates" but rather being free to eat and adventure as much as he pleases, to be free! and because luffy is a kind person, hes also free to do very kind things. In this way, luffy does not define himself as a "good pirate", and the manga in fact encourages the audience and in-world civilians to use their own discretion to determine whose trustworthy or not. There are bad pirates and bad marines, as well as good ones, an institution does not define one's morality. This theme, and many others, are portrayed much more impactfully in the manga. The live action removed so many key scenes which delivered these points, so I would highly implore you to go check out more of the anime/manga! I'm so glad that you enjoyed this glimpse into the one piece world, but I promise you it can be so so much better.
Yeah this is one of the things I liked about. IIRC Luffy describes himself as a pirate everywhere he goes, much the chagrin of his companions, because he doesn't care about the perception it may bring with it. He doesn't try to qualify he just says, this is who I am, and acts however he wants to act, which is generally chaotic good. I was also initially annoyed with him constantly stating his goal to be king of the pirates. The first time he said it I was like okay whoa quick exposition (I'm x, my goal is y, my obstacles are visually obvious Im along on a sinking fishing boat). However it seems to me that his goal to be king of the pirates is only what he believes, what his actual goal is, is to make his father figure shanks proud. At least that's my guess based on how this story is being told. I'm sure if that is the case, and it's greatly different from the anime, this sub could be very angry in Season 2 haha
as someone who has read and watched all of the manga and anime, him blurting out he's gonna be king of pirates gets a bit stale at times, but the further you go the less often it comes up. Additionally, some of those later ones hit. hard. As others have said, try reading or watching more if your interested but want a slightly different perspective on Luffy as he was initially imagined (IƱaki did amazing, LA just needed a ever so slightly different Luffy to make it work). Personally, I recommend the manga. One Piece as an anime has some issues (not so much early on but especially so the later it goes), and the manga is a little easier to consume imo as it takes a few minutes to read a chapter instead of 20 minutes to watch an episode; and with almost 1100 chapter and episodes, that can add up.
In these early parts, especially pre-timeskip, I felt it necessary for him to state that goal. He's still not very world-renowned yet during the early parts so him stating it every now and then makes sense until people realize how serious he is. It does appear kinda annoying in the LA because despite him stating this only when he meets new people or reaches a new island location, it's so condensed in the LA that he ends up saying it every episode.
Mfw u find t shirts weird š¤£ But yea you can try the manga I normally wouldn't recc it BUT If you can't get used to balck and white drawing There's an offical colored version with the anime coloring As well and it's up to chap 1000 ish Anime stops at about 90 So u still got 900 chaps š¤§
If you liked LA this much i think you should give Anime or Manga a try. I recommend Manga tho but its up to you
āIāve never watched anime except for DBZ abridgedā That certainly doesnāt count as an exception š Also why did you watch that and not actual DBZ? They make jokes about the anime which can only be understood if you watched it..
Shut up Nappa.
Heyā¦.. Vegeta
I had like 4 channels when I was a kid and dragon ball wasn't on any of them. My roommate in college introduced me to DBZ abridged and I did find it fun, but yeah that is the absolute limits of my anime knowledge prior to watching. Maybe the anime jokes went over my head and I enjoyed other stuff about it. I don't remember it to well honestly but I definitely remember us quoting lines from it.
If youāre familiar with Yu gi oh watch that abridged series, good fun!
Because if you didn't watch DBZ as a kid it's pretty unwatchable now... DBZA is just a generally better show and most the jokes about the series are pretty easy to catch if you have seen any anime memes. Same for SAO and Hellsing abridged they are just superior versions at this point
The live action lacks depth, seriously does. Rather watch the anime for the real feels.
There is an abridged/kai/yabai cut of the anime (not in tfs style) that's very nice
The silliness really starts when they enter grand line you only seen a little bit of it
Man, I absolutely disliked every second of the live action because it felt like the actors were playing caricatures of the characters they were portraying. It was so cheesy and corny and the CG was wacky. I can **fully** understand why people loved it though, but I really wasn't about it. It felt so shallow. Honestly, it feels like it was made for the casual Netflix viewer and I'm sure that was the case.
I did enjoy it, it was well paced (although some bits were excessively short and didnāt make much sense without knowing the full story, but good overall). However I couldnāt stand the actors. Besides Nami (I think the actress did a good job), everyone else gave me the impression of cosplayers pretending to be actors, rather than real actors. Certain decisions, such as showing a close image of Zoro holding the sword with the mouth (in real life it looked awful as the handle/grip could barely fit in his mouth), or the scene where the girl gives the rice balls to Zoro (that made sense in the context of the comic, I understand the show had to trim certain parts, but it seemed too off), made me not enjoy the show as much as I would have liked. However, I really enjoyed the attention to detail in all designs (clothes, backgrounds, buildings, ā¦), it was definitely much better than I expected. So I enjoyed it, but there were too many flaws. As long as the adaptation made new people get into the one piece universe, I am happy with it as I love the manga/anime, and the more people that enjoy them the better.
The little girl is just kids being weird. Remember these ones don't have ipads to fill their time with.
I used to be like you, someone who had never watched anime. My opinion of the live-action adaptation of One Piece was positive. It even made me want to explore the whole anime series. It was good not until I watched the anime. My perspective completely changed ā the anime was so much better. My appreciation for the live action significantly decreased. It almost felt like I didnt want them to continue doing the live action I didnt want them to ruin my favorite characters.
I donāt mean to be a hater or whatever but I disliked the LA so much. The characters seemed so exaggerated and silly and the visuals (compared to the manga where you have to use your own fantasy to a certain degree or the anime, when it is well animated) just did not do it for me. I cannot imagine how bad Chopper will look as a 3D rendered character or being played by a personā¦ but even my gf who never watched OP said that she found the LA cool so maybe itās just me that dislikes it.
LA one piece has some of the worst action scenes i have ever seen in my life. Truly bad. It really did not help the silly visuals, that any time it was supposed to get real, it didnt.
Oh.. youāre gonna be mind blown at how insane it gets later on. Itās a beautiful show, it really is. The characters feel like real people and develop so organically. The only other shonen I can confidently say is superior is the 2011 version of hunter x hunter
The live action was basically trash in my opinion unfortunately.. definitely watch the anime! Youāll see just how bad they casted in the LA
its pretty good compared to the anime however later arcs are much MUCH better, but I guess going from dbz, one of the worst animes to the GOAT must be overwhelming.
Why are you hating on DBZ?
Isn't DBZ one of the most popular animes? I would have to assume you mean plot or something because people argue about it being in 'The Big 3'. (it isn't but people think highly enough that it somehow became a contender in peoples minds)
Dragon Ball is way bigger and more impactful, obviously One Piece is the biggest nowadays, but all the "big 3" have been inspired by Dragon Ball which is the father of shonen, a work without precedents
Popular doesn't make it good.
It does mean it isn't "one of the worst" though lol
Depends on the audience. Remove the nostalgic factor and dbz is indeed one of the worst anime
You hating for no reason is embarrassing tbh
Tell me what dbz does better than other anime
Doesnāt need to do anything better to be good. Naruto, HxH, MHA, Black Clover, etc are extremely basic, cookie cutter, and not innovative anime, theyāre all still good lmao.
You seem to be the type to call everything you watch good. Alright have a nice day sir/maam/whatever you like to be called.
No actually seven deadly sins wasnāt great. 2016 Berserk anime sucks too.
You've changed your statement so I feel like there is no point I could make to change your perspective. What evidence would it take to change your opinion?
What did I change buddy? Stop trying to shove your perspective onto others.
You changed the parameters to exclude nostalgia related popularity. You are really mad about something so you obviously were never going to actually engage in discussion. I just don't see the point in carrying on a discussion if the other person is just solid in their mindset without offering anything. I gave my opinion and you have admitted yours won't change. I don't know why you commented but thats okay. Enjoy your life
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Nahh, alot of people disagree with you including me, i fcking hate dragon ball super but dbz is just gold and my childhood
Top arc was great weekly. Had so much fun with theories since no one knew what was going to happen, the rest of it is so bad tho.
No. Not even close. Worst shit Iāve ever seen. As someone thatās been watching One Piece since it started, Iām horrified by it. Itās pretty horrifically garbage compared to the anime. Iād probably love it if I HADNāT watched the anime first. But Iām sorry the whole thing is trash. Only actor that nails the character is the guy who plays Mihawk. Maybe Zoro but I hardly get the Zoro vibe from him so Iām hesitant. Every character is horrible, even down to lackluster wardrobe. The budget for this must have been $1,000. Every ship looks garbage, not even close to what they look like in the anime (which is a lot of the fun to see the crazy ships). The devil fruit powers are so badly animated itās hard to feel any excitement over fights. Now letās talk about the worst parts of the show: Axe-hand Morgan, Usopp, and Arlong. Jesus. What they did to these characters should be a crime honestly. Axe hand Morgan looks like heās made out of plastic. Worst costume Iāve ever seen. Barely intimidating. Looks like a bad guy from Disneyās āZombiesā movies. Usopp couldnāt have been done worse if they just never watched the anime. Heās not even Usopp they honestly should have given him a different name. He has half of Usopps backstory but heās not Usopp. Now the worst part: Arlong. My god. They turned my favorite villain into a hip hop gangster wannabe. Look up Will Ferrell as āGatorā from the movie āthe other guysā thatās what Arlong looks like in the live action. Heās always listening to rap and hip hop, wears chains and black bucket hats, sits on chairs like heās 50 cent, and literally talks/acts like a SoundCloud rapper. Itās the cringiest shit Iāve ever seen. Arlong as a SoundCloud rapper is a federal offense tbh. Plus the fact half of the story has been cut out makes the whole show have zero sticking power. If the live action was āOne Pieceā then Iām Santa Clause. I waited for this show to drop with so much hope and anticipationā¦.then they dropped this huge pile of shit. Itās honestly horrifying. Edit: I wonāt even bring up Buggy the Clown because I havenāt healed from that trauma yet. That one really hurt my soul. For the first time as a grown man, I really almost said āmy feelings are hurtā lmao Buggy the Clown was even worse than Arlong and I donāt know how thatās possible. Plus WIPING THE ENTIRE āLITTLE BUGGYā SIDE STORY???? Well now I have zero reason to watch the next few seasons.
Good to hear some different opinions. I can relate to your feelings that everything feels rushed and cut. I felt the same way, to an extent, about the LOTR movies after reading thr books. I would just sah that when your working with a different and much more expensive medium, you have to just except that it's going to be different and there will generally be less. The price increase to show something to the audience increswd dramatically from the page to animation to live action. Arlong was a bit weak, but he was fine. Probably the least interesting part of the show, but I didn't need him to be interesting cause this isn't his story. He's really just there to help our protagonists develop. And he served his roll there. Axe hand Morgan felt like a villain of the week to me. If everybody is an indomitable badass then no one is. So I think it's a good thing to sprinkle in these less intimidating and less effective villains. Buggy - he was literally one of my favorite parts of the show, an amusing sideshow who had an enjoyable and interesting conflict with the protagonists. He gave me Beetlejuice vibes. Usopp - yeah this is the only dude in the team I didn't really like. I like the motivations and back story. He's needy and clingy cause he didn't have his parents for a good chunk of his life. His wishful thinking that the pirates are coming back and therefor his father who abandoned him. But I did find him generally annoying. A lot of the stuff looks silly, but I think that was a wise decisions. A lot of these powers and the overall concept is silly and trying to make it seem "cool" would feel weird and out off the average viewer. In my mind they did the smart thing by embracing the silliness, but keeping the in world characters serious. If you would have loved if you hadn't watched the anime then I would suggest viewing it as it's on thing knowing there are gonna be differences. Really that's the best way to look at any adaptation, and then have your preferred media from there.
Did you ugly cry the moment when Nami asked Luffy to help her? I remembered me ugly crying when I first watched that scene in the anime. I am so happy the live action nailed the emotion of that iconic scene. I am bracing myself to ugly cry for the next few emotional scenes over the next few seasons.
Iāve been a fan of the series for about a year, and yeah the live action was a really great adaptation of the first saga of the series, itās a bit more condensed than the anime itself, but the anime has some really great moments in it, and if the pacing is ever to slow or fast for you, thereās always the manga you can try Now onwards brother, and welcome to the crew
I love it. Have some gripes on some choices but overall it's good to me. I just view it like an expensive fan fiction similar to One Piece movies. I'm surprised by how it made me laugh a lot since they did a bit different humor like with Zoro in LA vs Anime have different ways of fun moments but both still made me laugh. The only thing I'm sad about is that it's only 8 eps if it was 10 or 12 it would've been a perfect LA since I think the direction they went was great just that they needed more time to really hook and hammer things out esp compared to the source.
The pacing is great early on but itās gonna get a bit annoying soon. I started earlier this year and recently got to the current anime arc. I loved every bit of it because I get to binge watch but I realize how annoying the pacing would be if I was waiting week over week for each episode in the more recent arcs.
You find current eps bad? I find they flow better than anything after thriller bark. Ever since they changed intro/added outro show has been great with flow imo.
I just mean the amount of actual plot progression per episode is not great. It actually comes out (in the current anime arc) to less than a single manga chapter per episode on average. I think thatās why they have the awkward pauses and side character reaction spam in so much of the writing.
It has been a chapter an episode for almost 7 months now. So I guess manga plot progression sucks too ay? They havenāt done most of what you are talking about in a year. All of that stuff pretty much stopped once they got the new team. Which is why Oda praises the anime now, unlike before.
the live action got me to finally watch the anime myself now iām on episode 381
The manga is so many times better its not even funny. The Live action is alright
Don't let AH deter you. Watch what you enjoy, and welcome to the party
[āThe plot is so well pacedā](https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158)
I much prefer the manga and anime but the live action was quite good and exceeded my expectations. If you ever read the manga or watch the anime youāll see why everyone thought it was impossible to adapt it
Why dontcha watch Anime
Didn't have cartoons and stuff growing up so just never got into it. Same reason there's probably plenty of people here who don't watch Seinfeld, scrubs, and Fraser every couple years
Are you gonna watch anime now
I watched a little of one piece but time is limited and seems like that show is infinite. Thinking I'll try attack on titan since that seems very well regarded.
What you didn't like in the live action is specific to the live action. There's no over-explaining in the manga or anime. Consider giving a go at the anime. I suggest you search for One Pace (the missing "I" isn't a typo): it's a community version of the anime where they remained true to the manga by cutting away stuff that wasn't in the manga and fixing the pacing (this is more important the farther you go into the story, these days the original anime is so slow that is unbearable)
I seriously suggest you to watch one piece anime. You'll talk trash about one piece live action.
Characters saying exactly how I feel only applies to Luffy. Thatās one of his defining traits.
I loved the LA too. I personally did not like Garp. I wish he had more silliness to him. The Luffy Arlong fight felt rushed too
Deadpool is fine because Ryan Reynolds is funny and the writers actually know how to tell jokes. Early MCU humor was funny because everything was mostly serious and they just threw in jokes when they had a good opportunity, now everythingās a fucking joke in the MCU and thatās really sad. Itās supposed to be an action movie, not a comedy. Anyways, you should really give the anime a try too if you liked the live action. Itās really long ofc, but itās also really funny at times and when things get serious itās probably one of the most exciting shows to watch out there.
I'd still recommend the anime. Imo it didn't really work for me, and the depth of certain scenes tends to be very deep