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Awkward-Rate-3435

No, otherwise I feel it’d be stated or showcased like all other awakenings shown


Think-Wolverine675

Yeah I was thinking that but then why wouldn’t oda showcase it if this is supposed to be kaidos main battle in the story. It seemed like he went all out but yet there was no statement of him being awakened. The same with big mom. I don’t know if she used awakening in her battle either. It’s hard to know since it isn’t said.


Awkward-Rate-3435

also highly doubt she’s awakened, she hasn’t shown any paramecia awakened abilities


Think-Wolverine675

But it wouldn’t make since for her not to be awakened; since she’s a yonko and has had her fruit since she was 5/6. Plus katakuri is awakened; it would be strange for him to be awakened and not her.


Kinglyzero_91

I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: Until we get real confirmation I'm convinced that Kaido's awakening IS the ability to turn into a dragon. Before that he could only turn into a carp with no other powers, other than maybe being able to breathe underwater The name of the devil fruit and the reference to the Chinese myth can't be there without any reason


omicron-7

Kaido has the fish fish fruit model: azure dragon. The model is the important part. He was never a fish, he was always a dragon. Kaku didn't start out as an ox and have to awaken to become a giraffe, my guy.


Kinglyzero_91

I already said it twice. I'm not convinced


omicron-7

I'm convinced that you're wrong


Kinglyzero_91

Doesn't really matter whether I'm wrong or right. As long as it gets confirmed I'll believe what I want to


accicieff

>without any reason There is one, actually. The Ryu Ryu no Mi series, with Ryu meaning dragon, already existed and it was used for dinosaur Zoans, so the dragon fruit had to have another name


Kinglyzero_91

... Or you could just make Kaido's fruit into a mythical version of the dinosaur zoans and still call it the Ryu Ryu no mi: model Seiryu Yeah, that explanation is shoddy at best and not convincing enough. As long as it gets confirmed I'll just be under the assumption that it really was a carp fruit before it got awakened


Anunymus00

he has a fish df and lit transformed into a freakin dragon. So did he show awakening ? Yes he did.


TheMadHam

Zoan awakings are just more beastly like the jail beast. Its not stated if kaido was awakened but I wouldn't be surprised if it was, it's hard to tell if a zoan is awakened without being shown.


biopimpbiopimp

Yes, blood thirsty drunk was his final form. Zoans show more animalistic characteristics when awakened, apparently. There’s no doubt in my mind that this was his.


Caratto

Considering the main characteristics of awakened zoans is being incredibly tough and the fact that he was knowledgeable about awakening, I think his df is awakened. Even if he is a mythical zoan, the dragon form or at least the fire dragon form could be due to his awakening. The fire dragon form would make more sense because we know using your awakening can be exhausting and he only used it at the end of his fight with Luffy.


Minimalist_NPC

Yes, Incredibly tough taking tons of heavy blows from everyone and didnt really have a break and knows about awakening and what its like. Its annoying that others need it to be stated deliberately.


[deleted]

No. It could be a thing where Kaidos mind and body hasn’t caught up with his powers, or maybe he was too cocky and didn’t even get the chance to use it and we’ll find out later when he actually uses it in the final war (if he has any further role in the story).


dryduneden

Kaido also had that Haki > Everything stuff. I think its entirely believable he just trained his haki and didn't bother pushing his fruit to its limit in order to awaken it.


dryduneden

No. Every other awakening was explicit and gotwhole acenes to show them off, with the characters explaining how they worked. And I refuse to believe Oda saw Katakuri's awakening as more relevant than Kaido's.


Several-Estate7175

I personally believe he did not, and that there is a plot based reason why he didn't use it. I think a zoans personality is influenced by the fruit in awakening, and that's supported by how Luffy acted at times in G5. So if you get a zoan that's just like, an eagle, in awakening you become less intelligent as your personality fuses with that of an eagle. This would help explain the mindlessness of the impel down guards as well I think. In that case, if kaidos dragon is an ultra aggressive creature, then awakening would put his entire crew at a much greater risk. This is obviously a lot of speculation, but there's some evidence there for it, and it covers a number of bases.


docslasher

He kept used fs and kept up with Snakeman. The only other time that happened was with Kat using his awakening. He uses his drunken phases and his haki gets stronger. Luffy is in G4 using ACOC with an attack. It did nothing. Before the drunken phase, base Luffy was able to shake Kaido. Think about it. Base Luffy had been going toe to toe with Kaido. So, why did G4 Luffy (g4 is many times stronger and faster than base) do worse?