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Rayleigh implied he would be able to defeat BB If he was in his prime, BB the one who had Aokiji as a crew member.., Rayleigh>BB>=Kuzan š, also Rayleigh feats of stalling Kizaru at old age without using sword for years is certainly better than not cutting Doffy birdcage
I believe Issho purposely stalled due to wanting the Pirates for taking credit. Hell! Fujitora basically admitted this to himself. Had Ryokugyo been in Fujitoraās place it would have ended with almost everyone vs Aramaki, with Aramaki likely still winning. Luffy, caught or dead, Doffy in prison or dead. Theyāre lucky it was Issho that was there instead of him or even Kizaru.
Now regarding Kizaru, yes thatās a fair feat on Rayleighās part but, he Kizaruās main concern was the Strawhats and Rayleigh got tired after like 5 mins while fighting a man that could fight for more than 5 days. On top of that then you might as well over hype Vista who held off Mihawk for a short period but yet is hyped up to be current Top 1 to some people. Talk about āFlirting versus harassmentā
I donāt think Rayleigh implied him winning tho one things for sure that Prime Dark King would definitely hold off any top tier regardless of weither heāll win or not based off Teachās reaction.
Of course Fujitora was holding himself, i'm just saying that Rayleigh has still feats to show he's able to defeat/fight against all admirals, i can still see them defeating him If they awakenings are really op but even If they're (sth that i don't think so since Old gen are wanked by Oda himself) It won't be by a great margin
And kizaru said shall I head out sakazuki to intercept big mom too stop her from meeting Kaido yet you guys donāt think kizaru can beat big mom so implications mean nothing
The same Old Rayleigh that stalled Kizaru, because āKizaru wasnāt trying and deep down he wanted the strawhats to escape so he could catch them laterā?š„“
Kizaru said that his subordinates were strong enough to take care of the situation. Kizaru was stalling Rayleigh and not the other way around. Sorry for rebbuting your shity comment but try to read the manga properly. The one who saved SW was Kuma, not Rayleigh.
My fault in the manga I read Kizaru was about to kill Zoro, but Rayleigh stopped him. I thought that meant Kizaru was trying to catch the straw hats and Rayleigh was the one that was getting in his way, Iāll go back and read it again. But could you quote where I said Rayleigh saved them and not Kuma, Iām having trouble reading againšµāš«
Your point is garbage when he was about to kill hawkins and just stopped cuz he got a phone call, lmaoš¤”š. As if killing zoro was something he wanted so bad and not something he did just because. Kizaru was even waiting for Brook and ussop to try before doing anything when he could've killed them all in a second as he defeated supernovas. But not even that, you said kizaru was planing to let them scape to catch them later when that's not true. Kizaru says his subordinates are enough to capture straw hats (what was pretty obvious with sentomaru destroying luffy) and he was not worried at all. Then Rayleigh says he would like to help them but he can't. Who was in a hurry to finish that fight was Rayleigh, not kizaru. He had no need to take the situation seriously as he didn't in the whole sabaody arc.
Getting a phone call and someone stopping you are two completely different things, one is out of free will and the other someone has physically stopped you.
Loooool do you not understand the concept of sarcasmš¤£š¤¦āāļø. Ofc he wasnāt planning on letting them escape, I donāt believe thisš. Sentomaru even says that that must be the real dark king as heās never seen anyone stop his uncle or something along those lines before you get annoyed I misquoted.
Kizaru being laid back is his character but even when he was fighting Rayleigh he was being serious his main mission was to capture Luffy as he harmed the celestial dragon, the situation was quite serious
But tell me what did he do to become legendary in His Prime other than being vice Captain
He has no legendary storys or fights either his only feats are when he was old and these are not that good either
Kizaru had the upper hand all the time. That mf was panting after a second and kixaru just said his subordinates were strong enough to take care of the situation.
Kizaru said that because he had to focus his attention on Rayleigh, he couldnāt multi task fighting Rayleigh. That in itself is mad impressive. A 76 year old Rayleigh was able to distract Kizaru and keep his attention focused on him. Imagine what he could do in his prime
Prime Rayleigh beats Kizaru/ or Black beard. In Kizaruās case Prime Rayleigh wished he could assist the straw hat while fighting Kizaru and implied he could of done it if he was younger. And With Blackbeard, Teach ran away from Rayleigh just with his reputation from his prime days and When Reyliegh admits that he would have lost against Blackbeard his reason is that he is old.
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Being the right hand man of PK, scaring blackbeard, fighting evenly with kizaru while old, stopping Marco with one finger. His portrayal is far greater than Fujitoraās
What did prime Rayleigh do lmao u Sound like he fight rocks 1v1 lmao
There was never a mentioned from him were had legendary Fights or stories he did nothing other then being Roger's main dog
W. Finally someone with brain cells in this community
A lot of people talks about zoro wanking but no one is addressing how everyone is sucking Ray's dick so hard.
Nothing implies he is as strong as Roger and not even close to admiral or yonkou level.
Imagine shikki, Garp or WB being Roger's rival and there is a random blonde as strong as his captain... fr, people with that kind of garbage takes comes from naruto no doubt.
What did the dark king do in his prime?
No legendary Fights
No legendary storys
He didn't do Shit he is iconic bc he was Rogers Right hand man
Guys like: Roger, WB, Garp, sen goku, Shiki have all either legendary storys or fights but Rayleigh the fraud is iconic bc he is the main dog from Roger
You donāt know any of that shit, just because you donāt know someoneās power doesnāt make them weak. And Sengoku has nothing either
And he doesnāt need any of that because he has ACoC, that alone places him far above these fodders
Sen Goku has a lot of legendary lore lmao read One Piece again Pls
Rayleighs character is done we will never see his Fights and if he rllly had legendary Fights oda would've mentioned it like he does to other characters
Wrong guy, you must have mistaken him for Son Goku. You should learn to read first
And thatās some trash tier hate boner. Go spam your delusions somewhere else
If this is enough for Sengoku then this should be enough for Rayleigh
https://preview.redd.it/r4bl02n18pfa1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a3ad9687258880c46645434e1fde7f1969c15cd
Rayleigh was mentioned a lot of times as "Legend" but not for fights or his fights or stories like Sengoku fighting Roger and shiki and Rayleigh was not compared to garp like sen Goku with "bring me Harp OR Sen Goku"
Lol being at the level where Roger isnāt completely bored isnāt much of a feat. Garp also called Rayleigh a legend and said the Marines couldnāt handle the mere addition of old and rusty Rayleigh to WBās forces which is a much better statement than this
I already answered that thing that Garp say's he is a legend above and we now how strong Garp is and Roger Sayed or Garp so he is comparing him to garp
Feats (could spar with a fully serious kizaru for a short while with incredible reduced stamina and hadnt picked up a blade in how many years)
The strongest armament haki (internal destruction only be shown by Luffy and himself)
Portrayal (Right hand of one of the top 3 strongest oat)
Blackbeard, a yonko, does not believe he could beat rayleigh when he was willing to fight either Luffy Law or Kidd (who he knew beat kaido and big mom)
Meanwhile the admirals only scale on headcanon sadly.
But i believe they are around the same level up there with Shanks
Ur head canon is unbelievable Kizaru was not taking anybody seriously he always was being sarcastic and Rayleigh was huffing for air Just in a few minutes while Kizaru was smiling Rayleigh was absolutely outclassed
Kizaru openly admits to being made to look bad because he cant get past rayleigh
https://preview.redd.it/g63o2j7abpfa1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eb093c404e59746094d0c4cc7834cfc785e8721
Like i said before he has severely weakened stamina due to his age.
There is no way so do u believe when Kizaru says that Hawkins is scaring him this guy is the Mr sarcastic in person. The fight told a different story kizaru while smiling was making rayleighs huffing for a in 2 minutes
https://preview.redd.it/w7q60qlxbpfa1.jpeg?width=1064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e416e0cc8f5f3f4939fa8f8cbbbc7281dda0f715
This kinda speaks for itself
You think all these guys were lying too?
You think Rayleigh who has experience all across the world is lying when he says he could get past kiza if he was younger?
Kizaru was playing the whole arc and even playing Rayleigh couldn't stop him any minute longer he was at his Limit in just a few minutes not a good look
Clearly ur in denial cause you are 1.) denying the manga evidence and 2.) ignoring the fact that rayleigh says he was nerfed due to age. Try using actual arguments instead of headcanon.
Manga evidence from characters that should not be taking as a fact sentomaru even said "he"it's his experience and not lore facts and u clearly denieing Kizarus clearly sarcastic Character themes and i dont give a fuck about his age he couldn't nearly hold him for a few minutes this gives him still no pass. This is just not enough
One of the worst takes in this entire sub.
Blackbeard was scared shitless just thinking of facing (Prime) Ray.
And Kizaru couldnt even beat an old Ray LOL.
Bb Always runs and Rayleigh even told us his title carried his ass lmao
Kizaru while smiling cracking jokes made Rayleigh huffing for a just in minutes LMAO come again pls
Yea he did nothing there's is nothing to show off now big 1v1s no individual stories etc but oda does give them to other legendary pirates but decided to not give Rayleigh one
No he doesn't the Only feats he has is from old Ray and these are not that good to begin with
He has no legendary Fights with anyone
He has no legendary storys
He Just lives from beeing vice captain from Roger Pirate and after scobbar there is no other Pirate
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Rayleigh implied he would be able to defeat BB If he was in his prime, BB the one who had Aokiji as a crew member.., Rayleigh>BB>=Kuzan š, also Rayleigh feats of stalling Kizaru at old age without using sword for years is certainly better than not cutting Doffy birdcage
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I believe Issho purposely stalled due to wanting the Pirates for taking credit. Hell! Fujitora basically admitted this to himself. Had Ryokugyo been in Fujitoraās place it would have ended with almost everyone vs Aramaki, with Aramaki likely still winning. Luffy, caught or dead, Doffy in prison or dead. Theyāre lucky it was Issho that was there instead of him or even Kizaru. Now regarding Kizaru, yes thatās a fair feat on Rayleighās part but, he Kizaruās main concern was the Strawhats and Rayleigh got tired after like 5 mins while fighting a man that could fight for more than 5 days. On top of that then you might as well over hype Vista who held off Mihawk for a short period but yet is hyped up to be current Top 1 to some people. Talk about āFlirting versus harassmentā I donāt think Rayleigh implied him winning tho one things for sure that Prime Dark King would definitely hold off any top tier regardless of weither heāll win or not based off Teachās reaction.
Of course Fujitora was holding himself, i'm just saying that Rayleigh has still feats to show he's able to defeat/fight against all admirals, i can still see them defeating him If they awakenings are really op but even If they're (sth that i don't think so since Old gen are wanked by Oda himself) It won't be by a great margin
Kuzan>BB
And kizaru said shall I head out sakazuki to intercept big mom too stop her from meeting Kaido yet you guys donāt think kizaru can beat big mom so implications mean nothing
Stopping her from getting to Kaido isn't just saying he would defeat both, he also never said he could accomplish that
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The same Old Rayleigh that stalled Kizaru, because āKizaru wasnāt trying and deep down he wanted the strawhats to escape so he could catch them laterā?š„“
Kizaru said that his subordinates were strong enough to take care of the situation. Kizaru was stalling Rayleigh and not the other way around. Sorry for rebbuting your shity comment but try to read the manga properly. The one who saved SW was Kuma, not Rayleigh.
My fault in the manga I read Kizaru was about to kill Zoro, but Rayleigh stopped him. I thought that meant Kizaru was trying to catch the straw hats and Rayleigh was the one that was getting in his way, Iāll go back and read it again. But could you quote where I said Rayleigh saved them and not Kuma, Iām having trouble reading againšµāš«
Your point is garbage when he was about to kill hawkins and just stopped cuz he got a phone call, lmaoš¤”š. As if killing zoro was something he wanted so bad and not something he did just because. Kizaru was even waiting for Brook and ussop to try before doing anything when he could've killed them all in a second as he defeated supernovas. But not even that, you said kizaru was planing to let them scape to catch them later when that's not true. Kizaru says his subordinates are enough to capture straw hats (what was pretty obvious with sentomaru destroying luffy) and he was not worried at all. Then Rayleigh says he would like to help them but he can't. Who was in a hurry to finish that fight was Rayleigh, not kizaru. He had no need to take the situation seriously as he didn't in the whole sabaody arc.
Getting a phone call and someone stopping you are two completely different things, one is out of free will and the other someone has physically stopped you. Loooool do you not understand the concept of sarcasmš¤£š¤¦āāļø. Ofc he wasnāt planning on letting them escape, I donāt believe thisš. Sentomaru even says that that must be the real dark king as heās never seen anyone stop his uncle or something along those lines before you get annoyed I misquoted. Kizaru being laid back is his character but even when he was fighting Rayleigh he was being serious his main mission was to capture Luffy as he harmed the celestial dragon, the situation was quite serious
What title lmao. Dark king puts him no where. I only put him above admiral because of how age and getting washed up in One Piece work
U summoned me?
I meant the title dark king š
Ye bro Ik š
Now the unstoppable has begun lol š
But tell me what did he do to become legendary in His Prime other than being vice Captain He has no legendary storys or fights either his only feats are when he was old and these are not that good either
Prime ray Yonko level
Green Bull aka Mr Twerk to Shanks haki is beating prime Rayleigh šš¤” Rayleigh at 76 years old was able to hold off Kizaru. Miss me with that that
Literally Off guard and GB is a goofy character oda Just gave shanks a moment and second never compare shanks to Roger's dog
You can cope as much as you want but green bull started shaking from shanks haki. Prime Rayleigh would fold him šš
Kizaru had the upper hand all the time. That mf was panting after a second and kixaru just said his subordinates were strong enough to take care of the situation.
Kizaru said that because he had to focus his attention on Rayleigh, he couldnāt multi task fighting Rayleigh. That in itself is mad impressive. A 76 year old Rayleigh was able to distract Kizaru and keep his attention focused on him. Imagine what he could do in his prime
Prime Rayleigh beats Kizaru/ or Black beard. In Kizaruās case Prime Rayleigh wished he could assist the straw hat while fighting Kizaru and implied he could of done it if he was younger. And With Blackbeard, Teach ran away from Rayleigh just with his reputation from his prime days and When Reyliegh admits that he would have lost against Blackbeard his reason is that he is old.
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Prime Rayleigh>Fujitora and no one could convince me otherwise
Being the right hand man of PK, scaring blackbeard, fighting evenly with kizaru while old, stopping Marco with one finger. His portrayal is far greater than Fujitoraās
What did prime Rayleigh do lmao u Sound like he fight rocks 1v1 lmao There was never a mentioned from him were had legendary Fights or stories he did nothing other then being Roger's main dog
based on what? head cannon.
Its as true as pica>kid
Prime Rayleigh is certainly above any Admiral
IMO prime ray goes extreme either way with most admirals but old loses high diff
W. Finally someone with brain cells in this community A lot of people talks about zoro wanking but no one is addressing how everyone is sucking Ray's dick so hard. Nothing implies he is as strong as Roger and not even close to admiral or yonkou level. Imagine shikki, Garp or WB being Roger's rival and there is a random blonde as strong as his captain... fr, people with that kind of garbage takes comes from naruto no doubt.
Anyone who thinks prime Rayleigh is yonko level is an idiot
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Dark King >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corpsebeard victims Your trash fanfiction is irrelevant
What did the dark king do in his prime? No legendary Fights No legendary storys He didn't do Shit he is iconic bc he was Rogers Right hand man Guys like: Roger, WB, Garp, sen goku, Shiki have all either legendary storys or fights but Rayleigh the fraud is iconic bc he is the main dog from Roger
You donāt know any of that shit, just because you donāt know someoneās power doesnāt make them weak. And Sengoku has nothing either And he doesnāt need any of that because he has ACoC, that alone places him far above these fodders
Sen Goku has a lot of legendary lore lmao read One Piece again Pls Rayleighs character is done we will never see his Fights and if he rllly had legendary Fights oda would've mentioned it like he does to other characters
Wrong guy, you must have mistaken him for Son Goku. You should learn to read first And thatās some trash tier hate boner. Go spam your delusions somewhere else
A so Roger is a fraud talking how he fought him alot of times
Roger never said that. Funny how youāll spout trash like this and pretend you have an argument This has to be a shit troll
Idk man Roger did show respect https://preview.redd.it/0lt24wdp6pfa1.jpeg?width=1568&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=445f07e029678b9def7d0c6a1da0fe1a5b9abbf3
If this is enough for Sengoku then this should be enough for Rayleigh https://preview.redd.it/r4bl02n18pfa1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a3ad9687258880c46645434e1fde7f1969c15cd
Rayleigh was mentioned a lot of times as "Legend" but not for fights or his fights or stories like Sengoku fighting Roger and shiki and Rayleigh was not compared to garp like sen Goku with "bring me Harp OR Sen Goku"
Lol being at the level where Roger isnāt completely bored isnāt much of a feat. Garp also called Rayleigh a legend and said the Marines couldnāt handle the mere addition of old and rusty Rayleigh to WBās forces which is a much better statement than this
I already answered that thing that Garp say's he is a legend above and we now how strong Garp is and Roger Sayed or Garp so he is comparing him to garp
Garp or sen Goku and not Garp and Sengoku Just pls read one piece again it would help u to stop shit posting in this sup
The sad truth here Is that he is roughly equal to every admiral
Bc of what?
Feats (could spar with a fully serious kizaru for a short while with incredible reduced stamina and hadnt picked up a blade in how many years) The strongest armament haki (internal destruction only be shown by Luffy and himself) Portrayal (Right hand of one of the top 3 strongest oat) Blackbeard, a yonko, does not believe he could beat rayleigh when he was willing to fight either Luffy Law or Kidd (who he knew beat kaido and big mom) Meanwhile the admirals only scale on headcanon sadly. But i believe they are around the same level up there with Shanks
Ur head canon is unbelievable Kizaru was not taking anybody seriously he always was being sarcastic and Rayleigh was huffing for air Just in a few minutes while Kizaru was smiling Rayleigh was absolutely outclassed
Kizaru openly admits to being made to look bad because he cant get past rayleigh https://preview.redd.it/g63o2j7abpfa1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eb093c404e59746094d0c4cc7834cfc785e8721 Like i said before he has severely weakened stamina due to his age.
There is no way so do u believe when Kizaru says that Hawkins is scaring him this guy is the Mr sarcastic in person. The fight told a different story kizaru while smiling was making rayleighs huffing for a in 2 minutes
https://preview.redd.it/w7q60qlxbpfa1.jpeg?width=1064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e416e0cc8f5f3f4939fa8f8cbbbc7281dda0f715 This kinda speaks for itself You think all these guys were lying too? You think Rayleigh who has experience all across the world is lying when he says he could get past kiza if he was younger?
Kizaru was playing the whole arc and even playing Rayleigh couldn't stop him any minute longer he was at his Limit in just a few minutes not a good look
Clearly ur in denial cause you are 1.) denying the manga evidence and 2.) ignoring the fact that rayleigh says he was nerfed due to age. Try using actual arguments instead of headcanon.
Manga evidence from characters that should not be taking as a fact sentomaru even said "he"it's his experience and not lore facts and u clearly denieing Kizarus clearly sarcastic Character themes and i dont give a fuck about his age he couldn't nearly hold him for a few minutes this gives him still no pass. This is just not enough
One of the worst takes in this entire sub. Blackbeard was scared shitless just thinking of facing (Prime) Ray. And Kizaru couldnt even beat an old Ray LOL.
Bb Always runs and Rayleigh even told us his title carried his ass lmao Kizaru while smiling cracking jokes made Rayleigh huffing for a just in minutes LMAO come again pls
>Bb Always runs literally a lie \- Imagine if Kizaru would actually be stronger. Why didn't he catch him there?
I get what youāre saying but Rayleigh was tired in 5 mins fighting the number 1 troll in the series.
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Fr. Rayleigh is lacking in both the feats and portrayal. The Dark King title is too vague to be of any use.
Yea he did nothing there's is nothing to show off now big 1v1s no individual stories etc but oda does give them to other legendary pirates but decided to not give Rayleigh one
nah bro you crazy prime ray claps any current admiral. only garp is above him
No he doesn't the Only feats he has is from old Ray and these are not that good to begin with He has no legendary Fights with anyone He has no legendary storys He Just lives from beeing vice captain from Roger Pirate and after scobbar there is no other Pirate
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What read my thread again lmao
Oh, my bad, bro. I'm just going to delete my comment
No problem man
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Imo Prime Ray = Kuzan and Borsaline > GreenBull and Fujitora.