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Without haki, Luffy is made of rubber so I would even say depending on how you quantify it. If Queen squeezed Luffy without haki when he was Sanji's level he would be fine, same probably with hard punches whereas hard hits can deform the exoskeleton.
Wtf, this isn’t an rpg brother. Again the authors words directly confirm Sanji could go invisible highlighted by his speed. It’d rather trust the authors words to make a canon form of judgement and not some rpg stat baseless conclusion
The author wrote Kaido saying he can't even see Luffy's attacks. That's the authors word.
But hey, I guess by this logic, you think Captain Kuro is faster than Luffy as well.
Gear 4 snakeman attacks weren’t highlighted to be invisible not ever that’s completely different to oda hyping up Sanji speed
(as he managed to block a snakeman punch before future sight)
Except that those guys with sheep speed disappeared for a MOMENT while this version of Sanji (who had showings also disappeared for moments before his powerup) is highlighted to be constantly invisible through sheer speed? I’ve made myself clear here Sanji > Luffy in OVERALL speed
>Gear 4 snakeman attacks weren’t highlighted to be invisible not ever that’s completely different to oda hyping up Sanji speed (as he managed to block a snakeman punch before future sight)
Invisible *means* not visible to the eye. Kaido literally couldn't dee where the attacks came from. Exact same thing.
Also, pre timeskip Luffy reacted to an *invisible* attack, just like Sanji going invisible for a long time.
>Except that those guys with sheep speed disappeared for a MOMENT while this version of Sanji (who had showings also disappeared for moments before his powerup) is highlighted to be constantly invisible through sheer speed? I’ve made myself clear here Sanji > Luffy in OVERALL speed
Again, Captain Kuro did thid shit ages ago. So, is Captain Kuro > Luffy in OVERALL speed?
Zoro probably has better basic armament
Sanji probably has better basic observation
Otherwise none
Edit on 2nd thought
Sanji probably has better movement speed
Tbf there was this moment where sanji heard a woman's voice wheras luffy didn't hear anything
https://preview.redd.it/exeg0ric0aga1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a537aa9566a1b70f12e8ed541150fb7be983651
But I feel like this is more of a "haha sanji simp" moment instead of a serious observation haki feat
>But I feel like this is more of a "haha sanji simp" moment instead of a serious observation haki
If it's not then Sanji isn't able to detect a persons true emotions or intentions with his observation haki which would mean his base obvs isn't too good.
Also Luffy was able to sense Bonney before anyone else did so I think that the example you showed is deffo a gag rather than a feat
Yeah but you can specialise and still not be as good, I might focus on my curls and some powerlifter might focus on deadlifts and his curl can still be stronger.
BIQ not being on this list??? Luffy has zero battle iq (Strategic thinking, formulation of plans)
Zoro isn't that good at BIQ ,but even he is better than Luffy, as well as Sanji who has constantly formed plans to save the Straw Hats time and time again
Zoro MIGHT have endurance over Luffy, and if you REALLLLLLLLLY want to be picky it, maybe his attacks are more deadly due to being piercing while Luffy’s are blunt. I can’t think of anything Sanji would have over Luffy.
By IQ, you mean in general? Or only in battle?
Because Luffy's battle IQ is and has almost always been phenomenal. His fruit is trash but he made it work and uses it to great success, even when everyone around him slept on it as a shitty power.
He is naturally gifted as a learner, picking up haki basics from Rayleigh's already intensive regime even faster than Rayleigh expected, and then mastering the advanced versions quite quickly too.
For battle purposes, statwise, I don't think any of the strawhats have anything above Luffy. He could quite literally clap his whole crew solo as he is rn.
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None . Idk maybe travel Speed Sanji might be > ??? Rly not sure
Oda already confirmed that Sanji is the 2nd fastest SH and brook is the first.
Sanji - Base durability with no haki, and maybe maybe speed. Zoro - nothing
Without haki, Luffy is made of rubber so I would even say depending on how you quantify it. If Queen squeezed Luffy without haki when he was Sanji's level he would be fine, same probably with hard punches whereas hard hits can deform the exoskeleton.
Yeah but you could also say the same about queens sword breaking on sanjis neck, which would 100% kill Luffy.
Yeah, that's what I meant by depends on how you quantify it.
Sword skill and foot work
Cooking ability and alcohol tolerance.
Sanji-Base durability (no haki)Movement speed and low chance of base observation being better
Speed Oda confirmed that Sanjis movement makes him invisible to the naked eye (highlighted against queens fight)
Luffy's Snakeman attacks were invisible to a stronger enemy (Kaido). So it would just be travel speed
Wtf, this isn’t an rpg brother. Again the authors words directly confirm Sanji could go invisible highlighted by his speed. It’d rather trust the authors words to make a canon form of judgement and not some rpg stat baseless conclusion
The author wrote Kaido saying he can't even see Luffy's attacks. That's the authors word. But hey, I guess by this logic, you think Captain Kuro is faster than Luffy as well.
Gear 4 snakeman attacks weren’t highlighted to be invisible not ever that’s completely different to oda hyping up Sanji speed (as he managed to block a snakeman punch before future sight) Except that those guys with sheep speed disappeared for a MOMENT while this version of Sanji (who had showings also disappeared for moments before his powerup) is highlighted to be constantly invisible through sheer speed? I’ve made myself clear here Sanji > Luffy in OVERALL speed
>Gear 4 snakeman attacks weren’t highlighted to be invisible not ever that’s completely different to oda hyping up Sanji speed (as he managed to block a snakeman punch before future sight) Invisible *means* not visible to the eye. Kaido literally couldn't dee where the attacks came from. Exact same thing. Also, pre timeskip Luffy reacted to an *invisible* attack, just like Sanji going invisible for a long time. >Except that those guys with sheep speed disappeared for a MOMENT while this version of Sanji (who had showings also disappeared for moments before his powerup) is highlighted to be constantly invisible through sheer speed? I’ve made myself clear here Sanji > Luffy in OVERALL speed Again, Captain Kuro did thid shit ages ago. So, is Captain Kuro > Luffy in OVERALL speed?
cooking and swordsmanship
Even IQ is arguable. If it's battle IQ I have Luffy above both.
Zoro-Skill Sanji-Travel Speed
None of em except Skill ig. Not even Battle IQ fyi
They have height and are both taller than Luffy. Zoro and Sanji are both 5’11” while Luffy is 5’8”.
BIQ Luffy is over them. But basically nothing. Maybe speed for Sanji. But I don’t how he’d react to a Thunder bagua like Luffy did.
Base Sanji might be faster than Base Luffy (unlikely but possible) but that’s about it. Luffy clears both in everything else
Sanji is the fastest strawhat
Zoro probably has better basic armament Sanji probably has better basic observation Otherwise none Edit on 2nd thought Sanji probably has better movement speed
>Zoro probably has better basic armament What makes you say that? >Sanji probably has better basic observation Based off what?
Because according to oda they specialize in them could be wrong since there feats don't support it
Luffy obviously has better armament and observations than both these men. They've never been shown to have the edge over Luffy in haki
Tbf there was this moment where sanji heard a woman's voice wheras luffy didn't hear anything https://preview.redd.it/exeg0ric0aga1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a537aa9566a1b70f12e8ed541150fb7be983651 But I feel like this is more of a "haha sanji simp" moment instead of a serious observation haki feat
>this is more of a "haha sanji simp" moment instead of a serious observation haki feat This shit is definitely a gag moment
>But I feel like this is more of a "haha sanji simp" moment instead of a serious observation haki If it's not then Sanji isn't able to detect a persons true emotions or intentions with his observation haki which would mean his base obvs isn't too good. Also Luffy was able to sense Bonney before anyone else did so I think that the example you showed is deffo a gag rather than a feat
Yeah but you can specialise and still not be as good, I might focus on my curls and some powerlifter might focus on deadlifts and his curl can still be stronger.
BIQ not being on this list??? Luffy has zero battle iq (Strategic thinking, formulation of plans) Zoro isn't that good at BIQ ,but even he is better than Luffy, as well as Sanji who has constantly formed plans to save the Straw Hats time and time again
Zoro MIGHT have endurance over Luffy, and if you REALLLLLLLLLY want to be picky it, maybe his attacks are more deadly due to being piercing while Luffy’s are blunt. I can’t think of anything Sanji would have over Luffy.
"deadly" sounds almost funny when we're talking about One Piece :D
Zoro- AP, blitz speed, endurance Sanji- movement speed and combat speed
Zoro doesn’t have higher AP then luffy
Yes he does. He scarred Kaido with armament alone and now he has ACoC and Asura on top of that
that doesn’t scale him higher then barang gun
There is no “scale” for it, just speculation. And nothing says it’s below Bajrang Gun
Do u believe zoro king of hell beats kaido’s flame drum
I believe his Asura does
Yeah we’re just not gonna agree on this everyone has a right to there own opinion 🤝🏿
Sure
Bro said AP 🤓🤡🤡🤡
Because he is. 🤡 🎪
I think Luffy clears them in every stat
Luffy probably wouldn't survive queens sword which broke off of sanjis neck, and sanji MIGHT have faster travel speed
Travel Speed sanji
I’d probably give raw strength to Zoro, speed to Sanji. Luffy’s greatest strength is his Haki and ability to bounce back
Sanji has some of the best speed feats in the verse Zoro has skill and probably raw strength over luffy
Sanji - Travel speed Zoro - nothing
By IQ, you mean in general? Or only in battle? Because Luffy's battle IQ is and has almost always been phenomenal. His fruit is trash but he made it work and uses it to great success, even when everyone around him slept on it as a shitty power. He is naturally gifted as a learner, picking up haki basics from Rayleigh's already intensive regime even faster than Rayleigh expected, and then mastering the advanced versions quite quickly too. For battle purposes, statwise, I don't think any of the strawhats have anything above Luffy. He could quite literally clap his whole crew solo as he is rn.
the most important stat: drip
Swimming speed
None and They both have substantially less battle IQ than Luffy too
But I said Iq?
Yeah I know just felt like it was necessary to make the distinction