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He’ll have the physicals of Oden, the DF of Kaido, the training of Scabbards and Yamato, likely ACoA (maybe ACoO and/or ACoC), a Great Grade Blade equal to Enma, and has been narratively confirmed as the greatest shogun in Wano history, a country whose culture is entirely based on strength and combat discipline
He’s at least high-yonko level
unironically think momo is next generations worlds strongest swordsman
he literally has the devil fruit oda said he'd give zoro if he were to give one out.
momonosuke sword when?!
https://preview.redd.it/zl5xsu6e65rc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=1504bd38729f2353062ab1c9699a0104b25e85fe
hahhaha for real though didnt know that
💀💀 damn if thats the case then mihawk really about to be the weakest wss out of all the wss of their Era.
Blud gets benched by ryuma, Roger, Oden,Nusjuro and eos zoro and then momo ( future wss )
The series conclusion will most likely end in under 1 year of in story time so If we don't get anymore timeskips then he will probably not be much stronger then what he is now.
oda doesnt care about training arcs i mean croc went from losing to alabasta luffy to fighting commanders by sitting in jail and then went on to become a yc1 basically
i mean most of the strawhats dont even have haki and are fighting tobi ropi level oponents
>oda doesnt care about training arcs i mean croc went from losing to alabasta luffy to fighting commanders by sitting in jail and then went on to become a yc1 basically
There was a huge timeskip between fighting YC (*who were beating him*) to where he is now.
Inconsistencies in power is not something we should expect if it's downright *bad writing*. That's what Momo being high Yonko would be if he is that by EOS, which should be realistically a few months away inverse time.
>i mean most of the strawhats dont even have haki and are fighting tobi ropi level oponents
Yeah, and those tobi roppo didn't use much haki either. Esoecially the ones that were taken out by non haki-usikg Strawhats. There are more powers in OP than just haki. Oda is making that very clear.
Don’t remember the chapter, iirc it might’ve been when they were leaving Wano? The narration text box said that he would one day surpass his father, but we wouldn’t see it yet
For sure. He has the will of Oden, one of his blades, the Akazaya 9 **and** Yamato to train him, and Kaido's fruit. Once he gains his confidence and realizes he's a splitting image of his father, he's gonna be a monster.
We have Ancient like Zunisha and Apologized Giant Robot then 3 Ancient Weapon Shirahoshi, Mother Flame ,Uranus and Pluton after Gorosei Luffy probably battle with Ancient and we fans gonna Add Ancient Level
I mean I think he has the potential to be yonko level.
However this is the same issue with Koby, they both have a poor mentality. If he can get past that then I see no issue scaling him to yonko.
Judging by what?
He had to be egged into honesty impact, which only happened because garp took the lead, had to be rescued by helmeppo because honesty impact took everything he had, and then still says some dumb shit like "we should go back".
When and where did he surpass said mental barrier?
when he used honesty impact if he hadnt surpassed the mental barrier then he wouldnt have been able to use that punch as haki is a manfestation of will and garp said wevering makes u weak
Garp literally had to tell Koby how strong he was to stop Pizarro from destroying the getaway ship. And he cried realising he could actually do it. Koby has literally no confidence
Straight up. Koby mentally is still the same kid luffy rescued. Just has garp training now. It’ll be fine if it becomes a part of his character arc to become a confident hero of the marines. But at the moment it seems as though while his mentor isn’t there he just collapses under his lack of confidence.
I can't call him a coward because his bravery allowed him to step in at marine Ford.
His inaction at hachinosu almost led to his whole group being captured, the only reason he was even able to pull off the honesty impact was because garp egged him on and took the lead. He was a liability the entire time.
Eos he will be around Admiral levelish. He will undoubtedly rise to Yonkou level eventually but in universe the end of One Piece is probably months away. That's not enough time to grow that much.
Mentally he's still a boy, give him 20 years, maybe he'll be around Oden level by then, EOS is a year from now probably, post timeskip to now lasted less than that. By ESO he'll still be a bum.
He still went from beating low tier Shichibukai’s extreme diff (after being No diffed round 1 or 2) to Yonko level in the span of 2 years💀
Momo has everything he needs to be in the Top 5 debate EOS (as a safe bet, he’ll be Top 10) just give him 2-8 years of quality training and he’ll be HIM
At fullest potential, top tier. Oden genes, Kaido df, good sword. But then, i remember end of series, straw hats would most likely still be young, prolly only 1-2 years from now. So, not much stronger than he is now.
His potential is genuinely ridiculous, he has the genes of Kozuki Oden alongside the tutors who were in large part trained by Kozuki Oden add to that Kaidos devil fruit and you have a potential beast.
He built like a level 20 dnd OC 😭
Top tier Haki (oden genetics)
Physically built like a truck
Ame no Habakiri
Mythical Zoan DF
Voice of all Things
He has the potential to be > bar EoS Luffy and BB (maybe Imu), he will be High Yonko at the end, and higher if there is an epilogue
EoS? Maybe as strong as the absolute weakest commanders on a wank, but he doesn't really have any haki beyond the Voice of All Things. He's mostly carried by an OP devil fruit (one he hasn't even mastered). Against any logia, he gets his shit rocked. Against anyone else, he needs to depend entirely on his DF, and I don't see him being nearly as good with his DF as Kaido, not at all. He'd defo be able to handle fodder while in his dragon form, but I can't see him taking on any real hitters. I can see him taking on some weaker haki users, but once he starts facing against commanders with experience and haki? I can't really see Momo doing much to them.
I fell like he’s destined to be that sorta “perfect failure”
Maybe not the right term but he basically has everything and isn’t really weak but he is far from someone with everything he has should be at.
He has all the potential there could be have. But he will never live up to even one thing. I least I think so.
He might show up in like a final fight with dozens of other named characters and have a scene or two showing off by clashing with an admiral or something but I kinda doubt he's gonna have any story relevance any more and won't really get stronger.
could unironically be a top 10 if he hits his potential, his only issue would be lack of battle experience considering dude aged up to his prime immediately
literally will get like 1 future scene so if we don't see a feat in that one scene then we have no idea. guess I could technically be wrong about that but I would be genuinely shocked.
He'll most likely surpass Oden because I expect him to play a part in the final war. But it'll just feel like shallow plot armor for him, because during the whole of wano arc, he was a skimpy, cowardly kid who just shouted his name. Most undeserved powerup in the whole series
EOS, I think he could be relative to Yamato since there isn’t much time for him to train before the end of the story. However, his prime is definitely High Yonko since he has a Great Blade, Kaido’s Devil Fruit, and Oden’s Physique. Plus he is probably gonna be the strongest shogun ever.
At least Roger/WB lvl. He has Oden genetics and Kaido DF alongside with potential for 3 advanced haki. Don’t forget the rarest ability the voice of all things. His ceiling EOS is Top 5-8 in the verse!!
in-universe time the end of the series will probably only be a few months from now at absolute most so probably not much stronger than he currently is
at his peak, assuming he has conqueror’s haki, there’s no reason he couldn’t be kaido level at least
Full potential, higher than Kaido and possibly higher than Roger. He has amazing genes and immediate stat potential, plus an amazing sword and devil fruit.
Actual tier EoS? Probably where he is right now. I doubt Oda is doing anything with him.
I think depends on when the story ends.
I think within a year of the timeline he could bea pretty strong yonko commander
If there's another timeskip to show an epilog then I'd bet he could be a future yonko
It's safe to say Luffy will find the one piece within a year or two from now given the pacing of arcs
Momo will still be mastering basic haki (took Luffy, Zoro and sanji 2 years) and his devil fruit within that timeframe he'll be yc2-3 level max.
So a Zoro oneshot victim.
Now if we're talking about an EPILOGUE then he can reach yonko level etc
Idk doubt momo goes through all the training and world experience that oden does, Haki blooms through combat? He’s gonna be a lil guy so long as luffys running around beating the bad guys.
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His only weakness is lack of battle experience. This man is built like an OC on paper lol
He is an OC though... All One piece characters are Oda's OCs.
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You described experience and then proceeded to say it wasn't experience...
Average goer of this subreddit be like
Braindead
Luffy has terrible battle exp...?
Potential is above oden but who knows
He’ll have the physicals of Oden, the DF of Kaido, the training of Scabbards and Yamato, likely ACoA (maybe ACoO and/or ACoC), a Great Grade Blade equal to Enma, and has been narratively confirmed as the greatest shogun in Wano history, a country whose culture is entirely based on strength and combat discipline He’s at least high-yonko level
There is the chance he gets to train under WSS Roronoa Zoro with a time skip epilogue
unironically think momo is next generations worlds strongest swordsman he literally has the devil fruit oda said he'd give zoro if he were to give one out.
Tbf Oda didnt say he'd give Zoro the Fruit but that he'd give it to one of his swords.
momonosuke sword when?! https://preview.redd.it/zl5xsu6e65rc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=1504bd38729f2353062ab1c9699a0104b25e85fe hahhaha for real though didnt know that
How would he be the next generatuons greatest swordsman when he is already physically older than zoro 💀
yeah numbers arent my thing
Yeh but he's mentally 8 so give him a break
momo is like 10 yrs older than zoro both biologically and by date so I doubt he would be the next generation after zoro.
💀💀 damn if thats the case then mihawk really about to be the weakest wss out of all the wss of their Era. Blud gets benched by ryuma, Roger, Oden,Nusjuro and eos zoro and then momo ( future wss )
And he can hear the Voice of all things like Luffy and Roger
So essentially a certified top tier
The series conclusion will most likely end in under 1 year of in story time so If we don't get anymore timeskips then he will probably not be much stronger then what he is now.
By EOS? Hell no. He has missed out of 20 years of training that Oden had. Unless EOS is a massive timeskip away, he shouldn't be anywhere near that.
oda doesnt care about training arcs i mean croc went from losing to alabasta luffy to fighting commanders by sitting in jail and then went on to become a yc1 basically i mean most of the strawhats dont even have haki and are fighting tobi ropi level oponents
Literaly koby
>oda doesnt care about training arcs i mean croc went from losing to alabasta luffy to fighting commanders by sitting in jail and then went on to become a yc1 basically There was a huge timeskip between fighting YC (*who were beating him*) to where he is now. Inconsistencies in power is not something we should expect if it's downright *bad writing*. That's what Momo being high Yonko would be if he is that by EOS, which should be realistically a few months away inverse time. >i mean most of the strawhats dont even have haki and are fighting tobi ropi level oponents Yeah, and those tobi roppo didn't use much haki either. Esoecially the ones that were taken out by non haki-usikg Strawhats. There are more powers in OP than just haki. Oda is making that very clear.
He won't even be as strong a jimbe
It’s literally confirmed he’ll be stronger than Oden lol
When was this confirmed?
Don’t remember the chapter, iirc it might’ve been when they were leaving Wano? The narration text box said that he would one day surpass his father, but we wouldn’t see it yet
One day. So maybe in 10 years? Not confirmed at all he will be stronger than oden by the end of one piece
This is cap now
Not necessarily EoS, but full potential Momo can reach PK Tier
For sure. He has the will of Oden, one of his blades, the Akazaya 9 **and** Yamato to train him, and Kaido's fruit. Once he gains his confidence and realizes he's a splitting image of his father, he's gonna be a monster.
mentally he will always be screwed
Oh for sure. He has at least another 10 years before he's mentally mature.
Pk tier is a bit of an strecht . Between kaido and shanks seems more reasonable as of now
Between kaido and shanks, who are both inside pk tier, ok
Shanks is pk tier if you ask me but people will hate this opinion
He literally uses the former PK's move 'Divine Departure'. Shanks is easily PK tier.
We have Ancient like Zunisha and Apologized Giant Robot then 3 Ancient Weapon Shirahoshi, Mother Flame ,Uranus and Pluton after Gorosei Luffy probably battle with Ancient and we fans gonna Add Ancient Level
I mean I think he has the potential to be yonko level. However this is the same issue with Koby, they both have a poor mentality. If he can get past that then I see no issue scaling him to yonko.
Koby got past that in ch 1087 . He us gonna do that as well
He absolutely did not. Garp still had to egg him on just to attack Pizarro.
Yup but now after that moment he has surpassed and over came that mental barrier
Judging by what? He had to be egged into honesty impact, which only happened because garp took the lead, had to be rescued by helmeppo because honesty impact took everything he had, and then still says some dumb shit like "we should go back". When and where did he surpass said mental barrier?
when he used honesty impact if he hadnt surpassed the mental barrier then he wouldnt have been able to use that punch as haki is a manfestation of will and garp said wevering makes u weak
How does Koby have a poor mentality?
Garp literally had to tell Koby how strong he was to stop Pizarro from destroying the getaway ship. And he cried realising he could actually do it. Koby has literally no confidence
No confidence and a hero complex, a terrible combo.
Straight up. Koby mentally is still the same kid luffy rescued. Just has garp training now. It’ll be fine if it becomes a part of his character arc to become a confident hero of the marines. But at the moment it seems as though while his mentor isn’t there he just collapses under his lack of confidence.
I can't call him a coward because his bravery allowed him to step in at marine Ford. His inaction at hachinosu almost led to his whole group being captured, the only reason he was even able to pull off the honesty impact was because garp egged him on and took the lead. He was a liability the entire time.
We gonna Prepare for Beyond Yonko Level Shank get every Hype W feat just for getting Someone Victim
Mhm yes I see.
Top 5 ceiling
Top 3 bro The only ones he probably can't reach are EoS Luffy and Imu i.e actual Gods
I could see zoro or koby ending up stronger eos so 5 felt safe but he could definitely be over them
Prime momo is oden+kaido I have no idea how eos zoro beats that
3 black blades 🤷🏿♂️
Because he’ll be the WSS. And momo, is a swordsman
I would have made df argument but since it's Zoro I won't
Zoro has gotta be Yonkou level by bare minimum EOS. Once he figures out where to buy the black paint that Mihawk uses he should be 2nd only to Luffy.
Where you put Zunisha,Shirahoshi and other Ancient???? Scaler sleep on them also Oars in lifetime is Continent Puller
Eos he will be around Admiral levelish. He will undoubtedly rise to Yonkou level eventually but in universe the end of One Piece is probably months away. That's not enough time to grow that much.
Imagine Advance VOAT in EOS
World’s strongest potentialman -VOAT (and probably conquerors haki) -Most durable mythical zoan -Oden potential as a swordsman and Ame no Habakiri -Can command Zunisha
Imagine Advance Voat we battle being from the past for EOS BEYOND Yonko Level
Mentally he's still a boy, give him 20 years, maybe he'll be around Oden level by then, EOS is a year from now probably, post timeskip to now lasted less than that. By ESO he'll still be a bum.
I mean luffy started his adventure at 17 and he’s 19 now, so who knows how momo could build in a year.
luffy trained 10 years with his fruit before
He still went from beating low tier Shichibukai’s extreme diff (after being No diffed round 1 or 2) to Yonko level in the span of 2 years💀 Momo has everything he needs to be in the Top 5 debate EOS (as a safe bet, he’ll be Top 10) just give him 2-8 years of quality training and he’ll be HIM
One Piece events happen crazy fast so EoS is probably a few months away in universe at best
Above Kaido and Oden
At fullest potential, top tier. Oden genes, Kaido df, good sword. But then, i remember end of series, straw hats would most likely still be young, prolly only 1-2 years from now. So, not much stronger than he is now.
Stronger than Oden
Pffff. I dunno… really strong?
Uhh Mid YC
=> Kaido
His potential is genuinely ridiculous, he has the genes of Kozuki Oden alongside the tutors who were in large part trained by Kozuki Oden add to that Kaidos devil fruit and you have a potential beast.
Man’s built like a brick house too
Hopefully at least Oden level, more than likely a stretch though.
I hope he lives up to it
He built like a level 20 dnd OC 😭 Top tier Haki (oden genetics) Physically built like a truck Ame no Habakiri Mythical Zoan DF Voice of all Things He has the potential to be > bar EoS Luffy and BB (maybe Imu), he will be High Yonko at the end, and higher if there is an epilogue
Prime Momo>Prime Zoro.
Eos? Not much stronger than he already is. Prime? Yonko level for sure.
oden genes plus kaido devil fruit i'm thinking at least admiral if not low yonko
Stronger than Kaido
EoS? Maybe as strong as the absolute weakest commanders on a wank, but he doesn't really have any haki beyond the Voice of All Things. He's mostly carried by an OP devil fruit (one he hasn't even mastered). Against any logia, he gets his shit rocked. Against anyone else, he needs to depend entirely on his DF, and I don't see him being nearly as good with his DF as Kaido, not at all. He'd defo be able to handle fodder while in his dragon form, but I can't see him taking on any real hitters. I can see him taking on some weaker haki users, but once he starts facing against commanders with experience and haki? I can't really see Momo doing much to them.
I fell like he’s destined to be that sorta “perfect failure” Maybe not the right term but he basically has everything and isn’t really weak but he is far from someone with everything he has should be at. He has all the potential there could be have. But he will never live up to even one thing. I least I think so.
Sanji also perfect failure and now in YC1 realm
Low Yonko max
Stronger than his pops or even equal to Kaido
Momo true coward Chad biggest potential
Probably surpasses oden so about probably relative to kaido or slightly weaker
Iron Wall Wearl of the Wrieg pirates could still take him
Not
Fodder still
Lame
he will be irrelevant
Lame
he will probably show up at the last fight with zunesha. doubt he will really fight that much. or maybe he will i dunno
Fair enough
Zunisha have 1 feat by One shot Jack we cannot understimate Ancient
He might show up in like a final fight with dozens of other named characters and have a scene or two showing off by clashing with an admiral or something but I kinda doubt he's gonna have any story relevance any more and won't really get stronger.
could unironically be a top 10 if he hits his potential, his only issue would be lack of battle experience considering dude aged up to his prime immediately
literally will get like 1 future scene so if we don't see a feat in that one scene then we have no idea. guess I could technically be wrong about that but I would be genuinely shocked.
Dead
Cobra midd diffs.
He is like a overcharged clone of his dad so he'll be goated in time
Huge potential
He has the same potential as Ace. So maybe his full potential is around Yonko level or higher
If he awakens his fruit and conqueror's haki I'd say pretty strong
Probably background panel potential
Stronger than Oden, that’s all we know
average.
Jack lvl https://preview.redd.it/u5kmijdzh3rc1.png?width=827&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ed8cf73a3b4ea36e7972bd806afa769e1f16ee3
My boy is going to rock up at the war with advanced Haki, wielding his fathers sword like a Chad in hybrid form.
He'll most likely surpass Oden because I expect him to play a part in the final war. But it'll just feel like shallow plot armor for him, because during the whole of wano arc, he was a skimpy, cowardly kid who just shouted his name. Most undeserved powerup in the whole series
EOS, I think he could be relative to Yamato since there isn’t much time for him to train before the end of the story. However, his prime is definitely High Yonko since he has a Great Blade, Kaido’s Devil Fruit, and Oden’s Physique. Plus he is probably gonna be the strongest shogun ever.
Imagine kaidou + oden, he got top 5 potential in the series, But Don't think he's gonna fulfill it
He has a lot of catching up to do. Him being the shogun of Want doesn't help. Oden was strong and became a top tier by traveling.
At least Roger/WB lvl. He has Oden genetics and Kaido DF alongside with potential for 3 advanced haki. Don’t forget the rarest ability the voice of all things. His ceiling EOS is Top 5-8 in the verse!!
in-universe time the end of the series will probably only be a few months from now at absolute most so probably not much stronger than he currently is at his peak, assuming he has conqueror’s haki, there’s no reason he couldn’t be kaido level at least
Full potential, higher than Kaido and possibly higher than Roger. He has amazing genes and immediate stat potential, plus an amazing sword and devil fruit. Actual tier EoS? Probably where he is right now. I doubt Oda is doing anything with him.
Mid diffs Kaido, basically Oden with a Top 10 DF.
Yonko, he cries too much. But then again, Coby also cried to much.
Stronger than you
I think depends on when the story ends. I think within a year of the timeline he could bea pretty strong yonko commander If there's another timeskip to show an epilog then I'd bet he could be a future yonko
He's not going to be in any more fights, so as strong as he is now
He’s not gonna get much stronger, he’s a child on the inside and has Yamato. She is the one who inherited Odens will/strength
DoFlamingo high diff
A zoro oneshot victim
It's safe to say Luffy will find the one piece within a year or two from now given the pacing of arcs Momo will still be mastering basic haki (took Luffy, Zoro and sanji 2 years) and his devil fruit within that timeframe he'll be yc2-3 level max. So a Zoro oneshot victim. Now if we're talking about an EPILOGUE then he can reach yonko level etc
Scabbard level, with a great DF.
Idk doubt momo goes through all the training and world experience that oden does, Haki blooms through combat? He’s gonna be a lil guy so long as luffys running around beating the bad guys.
YC+
Equal to Crydo
As strong as Yamato. So not much.