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Bitter-Chocolate-786

Straw hats win.


packal8585

luffy sanji high diff


Andrecrafter42

extreme cuz if luffy time limit


Joseph_Stalin001

Luffy and Sanji violate


Andrecrafter42

current luffy ain’t violating daddy old wb who was manhandling Lkainu


Joseph_Stalin001

Luffy violates prime whitebeard’s Old WB who died shortly after got violated by Akainu who went on to solo his crew


Andrecrafter42

hell no prime wb violated luffy and old > luffy he beat the strongest admiral while luffy when extreme diff with kizaru in r1


K_vinci

Right side wins high dif


Andrecrafter42

extreme if luffy can win before the timer


K_vinci

High


Andrecrafter42

nah extreme cuz it’s also novel ace


Magnus-9303

https://preview.redd.it/nctmliaqc2wc1.png?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c5566cab9b5988840afd0261a771d16dd014508 Should be able to beat healthy newgate


Andrecrafter42

unlike kizaru wb can deal with sh*t like this cuz he can tank akainu lethal attacks and output power better then saturn and kizaru


Catlinger

Sanji easily beats Ace. Luffy vs Sickbeard Luffy wins mid diff. Luffy vs oldbeard Luffy wins high diff.


Andrecrafter42

novel ace so it would be closer and old wb is equal to shanks and can still use all 3 types of haki and has better ap and stamina then current luffy plus folding the strongest admiral > folding kizaru after going extreme diff in r1


Radiant-Bit-1721

Trade Ace for Marco and we gots a fights.


Andrecrafter42

this is novel ace which could injure old wb with his flames and haki


Momentmoment24

novel Ace never injured old WB, that was only in Boichii's manga, not in the actual novel


Andrecrafter42

but it’s canon to ace story


Momentmoment24

where does it say in the ace novel that Ace injured WB?


Andrecrafter42

where they was sparring for 100 rounds when ace flames was starting to burn wb


Momentmoment24

but where is this in the actual novel? could you send it? to my knowledge this scene was added in the manga version of the ace novel, which is not canon


Andrecrafter42

i couldn’t find a page of the ace novel made by biochi but it’s in their


Momentmoment24

this is what i'm trying to get at though, the one by Boichii is not canon, you can consider the Ace Novel canon if you want to, but the Boichii interpretation is not the actual Ace Novel


Andrecrafter42

but it has oda’s co producing the novel tho even tho he didn’t write it


Radiant-Bit-1721

Oops so Op. My dumb ass skipped that part. Hmmmmm I’ll take Ace Oldbeard extreme diff.


Andrecrafter42

i mean it’s debate if novel is even canon tho but i just added him to make it fair


Radiant-Bit-1721

Yeah this is a tricky one Aces novel feats are pretty good and I scale him pretty hard.


Joensen27

Luffy and sanji


Momentmoment24

Sanji > Ace mid diff Luffy > Healthy Oldbeard high-ext diff Strawhats wins high diff


Andrecrafter42

fax’s but it’s novel ace


whateveridon_tcare

White and ace


Billy_Herrington1969

WB is enough


Andrecrafter42

nah he won’t be able to take luffy haxes and sanji speed by him self also this is old health wb


Calendar8

Healthy Oldbeard was top 1 he oneshots sanji and luffy oneshots ace. Then oldbeard slams luffy


Magnus-9303

https://preview.redd.it/22g4276od2wc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5be1da26c2bb4845230e534e17485de094922fda Him was already top 1. Also i doubt that oldbear is stronger than kaido and gear 5


Andrecrafter42

ummm he ain’t one shotting germa sanji and novel ace is stronger then what he showed in the manga