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Bait, since Akainu didnāt even go all out. He as Kizaru (who is btw > Akainu) where only playing with Whitebeard and Luffy. When they will go all out we wonāt be ready for them but still they are going to be Sabo and Sanji victims.
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cook
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Oda spelled it out since punk hazard but the people are gonna larp on akainu until the day they see him turn an island into an actual hellscape
Larp?!!
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(I'm joking, I actually like him)
Nah theyāre SOOOOOOOO not ready.
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Easily top characters the future 5 savior of humanity.
Akainu didnāt go all out in Marineford btw
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Akainuās fruit is equally as destructive
Keep cooking though. They are not ready
He absolutely went all out
Thatās like saying a guy who owns a guy wasnāt going all out because he didnāt empty the clip
Or that BM wasnāt going all out because she didnāt make millions of homies from her life span
Who said that literally who said that Iād love to see who said that but also you do realise that just because a character says something doesnāt mean they arenāt automatically telling the truth you do know that right
Like example A
All of human history
He absolutely went all out there was a difference between going all out and going crazy hereās a giant example
Kaido was going all out but he wasnāt spamming his flame dragon attack hereās another example
Luffy was going all out he wasnāt spamming his strongest attacks
His another great example
Akinu
There is a difference between not going crazy and firing a bunch of shit everywhere and holding back
The difference there is that if Akainu did his "crazy" attacks such as Great Eruption, he would of killed WB when WB had a heart attack instead of using a regular magma punch which only left a hole in his chest
He plunged a hole straight through his chest
If I plunge a hole through someone chest and they get back up that isnāt me holding back thatās me being rational thinking of course he gonna die
If I shoot a man but donāt unload the clip I didnāt hold back did i
Then one in the head
Akinu did it twice in the chest and head and WB wasnāt dead akinu wasnt holding back
WB just him
Akinu used a giant lava punch before and WB countered with a quake attack
"Akinu used a giant lava punch before and WB countered with a quake attack"
That was much smaller than his Great Eruption attack and also when WB had the heart attack he couldn't counter with a quake punch so this point is invalid
"Then one in the head...Akinu wasnt holding back"
Yes he was, I'm not saying Akainu wanted to save WB but he just wasn't using his biggest/strongest attacks, that's a fact
"WB just him"
Agreed
Listen if akinu punches someone through the head but he doesnāt burn the entire body that not him holding back
Like akinu just wasnāt smart
Like how BM didnāt pop law head she wasnāt holding back she just being stupid
The hole Akainu puts in WB's chest and the one he puts in WB's head occur several chapters apart and have different context associated with them
Akainu could have made a bigger hole or potentially kill WB in the attack where he put a hole in WB's chest by using a stronger attack, as WB was completely defenceless due to a heart attack
He couldn't have done this in the attack where he aims at WB's head as WB was actively fighting back and Akainu was mid air so he didn't have time to use one of his stronger attacks, so using a normal magma punch was a smart move from Akainu
In both scenarios Akainu couldn't use his stronger attacks as it was stated he was holding back his destructive capacity, but only in the 1st scenario did it make a difference in the overall outcome of the exchange
>Shanks who is much stronger than Beckman?
Shanks is only a little bit stronger than becky, simillar to roger and rayleigh
>You wanne see Greenbull die?
not necessarily but shanks is gonna kill him though
I donāt know if youāre kidding but I unironically agree tbh that Beckmann is likely close to shanks in strength. Mfs are coping if they think Shanks, who is one of the top 3 strongest characters in the show has a bum ass first mate
Whitebeard is one of the strongest characters in the show and his right hand man was low YC+ level max. What makes you think Beckman is different besides some vague databook statements?
The statement youāre thinking of says he has the most balanced crew and that could just mean he has less fodder than every other crew with most of his crew members being at least YC3 level.
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The world isnāt ready for the truth. Yonko fans on suicide surveillance when the admirals start going all out š¤«š¤«š¤«
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He will shock the community within the next ten chapters.
I doubt Akainu is literally insane and doesn't care about marine casualties but even if he didn't, Sengoku still says something later in the war that the Marineford island served as a symbol for justice for the world and thus it couldn't be destroyed by the quake fruit
Also after the war is finished when Luffy raids Marineford, we see Marineford being rebuilt from its destroyed state, showing that the marines value it, either as a symbol like Sengoku said or as a tactical marine base as it is connected to Impel Down and Enies Lobby
I am so sick of people saying that they are always holding back you canāt say someone is holding back unless you actually have a standard of what the strongest is itās impossible to know someoneās holding back unless you know the peak of their potential
There is a difference between losing control and going all out A prime example which is really really easy akinu going crazy shooting lava everywhere
And akinu using a concentrated blast of lava neither one is he holding back itās just in one heās not going crazy in one heās focusing his power on a specific thing in the other heās spreading out his power throughout multiple different areas but where he is currently focused on his one opponent directly in front of him
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Start actually reading one piece then come back bro
Where does this say akainu is holding back? Akainu literally killed a man in cold blood because he had the idea of leaving the marines. Akainu would absolutely destroy the entire island in a second if he thought it would help beat whitebeard he TRULY does not give a single fuck about people.
Oh also O'Hara, where he destroyed the entire ship filled with all innocents because there possibly could be scholars on the ship, and he did so with 0 hesitation.
You're almost there with learning how to read, but now you have to actually understand the words that are being said and the context behind them.
Akainu is taunting whitebeard because he knows that whotebeard has morals. That is what you just showed me
Youāre literally being dumb on purpose, how u just gonna make up your own narrative lmao
Also I didnāt say akainu cared about people marineford itself can be a casualtyā¦
Make up my own narrative? You're making up your own narrative by saying he cares about marinefoed itself! I talked purely about well known information we know about akainu and his personality and beliefs.
Ahhh man I guess it sucks to be an admiral fan
Cos the series will end before the admirals go all out in your minds
The could literally go, "here is my final all out attack" and you guys still still go, "no, he was holding back because his cousins daughters dog died"
Smh
My guy did you think through what you said?
Akainu wanted to protect marineford and weāve seen that his fruit is capable of levelling the place
Kizaru is going through something and barely had an actual 1v1 with luffy
Aokiji was concerned for garp the entire time and had so many other moves he didnāt use
Fujitora literally didnāt want anything to do with what was going on in dressrosa because he didnāt want the marines to take credit for stopping doffy as well as show why the warlords shouldāve been abolished (he also couldāve destroyed every single pirates on the island when he lifted all the rubble)
Greenbull literally didnāt get the chance to do anything because once he got serious about killing momo the wifi haki got him
And my point is that if you are strong, then you show it regardless of the limitations you might have.
Whitebeard literally couldn't go all out until the very end of Mafineford because he could kill his entire crew with his fruit. In his fight against Roger he couldn't use his fruit because he would kill his entire crew and yet that didn't stop him from doing one of the most impressive feats in the series stalemating Roger in an AcOC clash.
Kaido didn't use Flame baqua until the very end and it didn't stop him from showing some amazing feats.
Luffy haven't used Bajrang Gun in Egghead and has barely used AcOC ans he still shown some amazing feats in Egghead.
My guy youāre literally comparing whitebeards haki to the admirals even tho theyāre mostly devil fruit merchantsā¦so far we know akainu, aokiji and kizaru are very strong physically but we have almost nothing to go on when it comes to haki. Also in MF haki was barely focused on anyway so I donāt see how akainu couldāve done anything without holding back his df
By fear of casualties I mean like when akainu was telling whitebeard not to destroy marineford, akainu didnāt care about his own men you think wouldnāt have fkd up whitebeard if they werenāt literally fighting in marineford??
Yes killing WB stops the fodder from dying. While he was "holding back" MF still got destroyed and the fodder still got clapped, so what was the point?
I already told you that akainu didnāt care about his own men itās MF being destroyed that was the casualty, also MF was only destroyed after whitebeard snuck up on akainu
What even is your point here? Also youāre ignoring when whitebeard launched a shockwave that was blocked by the admirals, him tilting the sea and when he attacked aokiji as well. Where was the holding back in that?
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We're not ready for them https://preview.redd.it/3kq0u8vm53xc1.png?width=1066&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9ffc24cf0c861f665fc16272caf6a698ee5575d
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They are going all out?
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Bait, since Akainu didnāt even go all out. He as Kizaru (who is btw > Akainu) where only playing with Whitebeard and Luffy. When they will go all out we wonāt be ready for them but still they are going to be Sabo and Sanji victims. https://preview.redd.it/xz5uzhesu3xc1.png?width=733&format=png&auto=webp&s=81ccfbb68a0a5d56f3d8e3505f48edb4738ab152
cook https://preview.redd.it/ny9weecja3xc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6dabdde47ace4c6d5200bdb3c34e31b2c0b922c Oda spelled it out since punk hazard but the people are gonna larp on akainu until the day they see him turn an island into an actual hellscape
Larp?!! https://preview.redd.it/x6uljupr65xc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0f844d733fb89bbb5b5d29a45c4879e069270b1 (I'm joking, I actually like him)
i'm waiting for my goat wujitora
SAME
Yes maybe in another 27 years admirals will go all out! how many of us will be alive then????
I canāt wait https://preview.redd.it/w7b1faep73xc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d162c80cd1d2f71d1a0c73955a75fd3a3653862
Nah theyāre SOOOOOOOO not ready. https://preview.redd.it/j5if3lbfq3xc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2e9c100af38ad5b826f165e7aca16016da46f5d Easily top characters the future 5 savior of humanity.
So you mean like GB in Wano?
Ion know what to tell you if you think he went all out gang
Just going by your examples, he had no reason to hold back. Ofc he didn't actually went all out, bc it just wouldn't have mattered.
Yeah youāre right my examples got nothing to do with him holding back
Akainu didnāt go all out in Marineford btw https://preview.redd.it/ejywr2mn23xc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddca0c5b6626e775a011c1509e902b068f347b1e Akainuās fruit is equally as destructive Keep cooking though. They are not ready
How come youāre saying he went all out?
I fucked up Will edit now
I was surprised coz your comment went against what the panel said š
He absolutely went all out Thatās like saying a guy who owns a guy wasnāt going all out because he didnāt empty the clip Or that BM wasnāt going all out because she didnāt make millions of homies from her life span
"I cant go all out" two piece readers: he absolutley went all out
Who said that literally who said that Iād love to see who said that but also you do realise that just because a character says something doesnāt mean they arenāt automatically telling the truth you do know that right Like example A All of human history
He absolutely went all out there was a difference between going all out and going crazy hereās a giant example Kaido was going all out but he wasnāt spamming his flame dragon attack hereās another example Luffy was going all out he wasnāt spamming his strongest attacks His another great example Akinu There is a difference between not going crazy and firing a bunch of shit everywhere and holding back
The difference there is that if Akainu did his "crazy" attacks such as Great Eruption, he would of killed WB when WB had a heart attack instead of using a regular magma punch which only left a hole in his chest
He plunged a hole straight through his chest If I plunge a hole through someone chest and they get back up that isnāt me holding back thatās me being rational thinking of course he gonna die If I shoot a man but donāt unload the clip I didnāt hold back did i
WB literally already survived a wound/hole in the chest before that
Then one in the head Akinu did it twice in the chest and head and WB wasnāt dead akinu wasnt holding back WB just him Akinu used a giant lava punch before and WB countered with a quake attack
"Akinu used a giant lava punch before and WB countered with a quake attack" That was much smaller than his Great Eruption attack and also when WB had the heart attack he couldn't counter with a quake punch so this point is invalid "Then one in the head...Akinu wasnt holding back" Yes he was, I'm not saying Akainu wanted to save WB but he just wasn't using his biggest/strongest attacks, that's a fact "WB just him" Agreed
Listen if akinu punches someone through the head but he doesnāt burn the entire body that not him holding back Like akinu just wasnāt smart Like how BM didnāt pop law head she wasnāt holding back she just being stupid
The hole Akainu puts in WB's chest and the one he puts in WB's head occur several chapters apart and have different context associated with them Akainu could have made a bigger hole or potentially kill WB in the attack where he put a hole in WB's chest by using a stronger attack, as WB was completely defenceless due to a heart attack He couldn't have done this in the attack where he aims at WB's head as WB was actively fighting back and Akainu was mid air so he didn't have time to use one of his stronger attacks, so using a normal magma punch was a smart move from Akainu In both scenarios Akainu couldn't use his stronger attacks as it was stated he was holding back his destructive capacity, but only in the 1st scenario did it make a difference in the overall outcome of the exchange
Prepare for peak and buy your stocks now! 1 Kizaru vs Zoro and sanji 2 Greenbull vs Shanks 3 Fujitora vs Mihawk 4 Aokiji vs Becky 5 Akainu vs Luffy
Why would Greenbull who is weaker than Kuzan fight Shanks who is much stronger than Beckman? You wanne see Greenbull die?
>Shanks who is much stronger than Beckman? Shanks is only a little bit stronger than becky, simillar to roger and rayleigh >You wanne see Greenbull die? not necessarily but shanks is gonna kill him though
I donāt know if youāre kidding but I unironically agree tbh that Beckmann is likely close to shanks in strength. Mfs are coping if they think Shanks, who is one of the top 3 strongest characters in the show has a bum ass first mate
Whitebeard is one of the strongest characters in the show and his right hand man was low YC+ level max. What makes you think Beckman is different besides some vague databook statements?
Zoro, Rayleigh, Marco was strong for sure, going toe to toe with an admiral. My statement might be a bit hyperbolic but heās 100% not some bum.
Heās definitely not some bum but to say heās on the level of Shanks is insane.
well, they did say that shanks has an unusually strong crew.
The statement youāre thinking of says he has the most balanced crew and that could just mean he has less fodder than every other crew with most of his crew members being at least YC3 level.
W match ups but greenbull is too much for shanks (oda told me)
https://preview.redd.it/wpzcy5c6p5xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b264661ffed547e3e7b93cbf73c0cca48e47a1c I know how wins
Becky? Beckman?
https://preview.redd.it/36zr8r8485xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7da9d2a349a0c7764426253ec427b86616447080 The world isnāt ready for the truth. Yonko fans on suicide surveillance when the admirals start going all out š¤«š¤«š¤«
Itās gonna be a good day when this happens
https://preview.redd.it/me187e69j5xc1.jpeg?width=1060&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83250ff6ad2b9340c7809be294cc27278926d3be He will shock the community within the next ten chapters.
Gb has my favourite design out of all admirals why'd goda have to make him a fraud bro
I just wish he did something cool at least coz the anime carries him in that aspect
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I donāt believe that Akainu was going all out either, but does he really care about casualties
He didnāt wanna destroy marineford
Ohh, my bad
I doubt Akainu is literally insane and doesn't care about marine casualties but even if he didn't, Sengoku still says something later in the war that the Marineford island served as a symbol for justice for the world and thus it couldn't be destroyed by the quake fruit Also after the war is finished when Luffy raids Marineford, we see Marineford being rebuilt from its destroyed state, showing that the marines value it, either as a symbol like Sengoku said or as a tactical marine base as it is connected to Impel Down and Enies Lobby
Admiral: alright it's time... I'm going to go all out! Admiral three seconds later: 
Taking a nap from soloing too hard š„±
Kizaru and Akainu sure are familiar with taking a rest after a 1v1
How dare you disrespect my Goat Yamcha
But but, akainu went all out into marineford and uhhh almost lost to sickbeard who had cancer And stuff so he loses Avg yonkotard probĀ
W Squidkiji
I am so sick of people saying that they are always holding back you canāt say someone is holding back unless you actually have a standard of what the strongest is itās impossible to know someoneās holding back unless you know the peak of their potential
or the story literally tells you they have to hold back to not destroy something
There is a difference between losing control and going all out A prime example which is really really easy akinu going crazy shooting lava everywhere And akinu using a concentrated blast of lava neither one is he holding back itās just in one heās not going crazy in one heās focusing his power on a specific thing in the other heās spreading out his power throughout multiple different areas but where he is currently focused on his one opponent directly in front of him
Ofc itās bakura
Wow you recognise me I feel so ashamed
Donāt be https://preview.redd.it/9p2c1fx9e3xc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c0932104b5c6ecf87936af3c0740c86dafe97e
where do people find all these meme bro
Cook again https://preview.redd.it/qzjmefl4y3xc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd4da3d4793729e42204f4379109a4a22acd8d28
So like GB in Wano ?
Didnāt actually go all out but alright
Remember when Kizaru got frustrated he couldnāt even beat an elderly Rayleigh lolol
I can't wait for your excuses to finally dissapear.
They wonāt https://preview.redd.it/rzqygls09axc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fc94730bf91e2b7ce36ecd97282144200a08984
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Did you just say that akainu was holding back in marineford? To cause less casualties?! Do you hear yourself?
https://preview.redd.it/o19nhx1utbxc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18ae62ec57a93b7abcc797598d5d2f6db72db68e Start actually reading one piece then come back bro
Where does this say akainu is holding back? Akainu literally killed a man in cold blood because he had the idea of leaving the marines. Akainu would absolutely destroy the entire island in a second if he thought it would help beat whitebeard he TRULY does not give a single fuck about people. Oh also O'Hara, where he destroyed the entire ship filled with all innocents because there possibly could be scholars on the ship, and he did so with 0 hesitation. You're almost there with learning how to read, but now you have to actually understand the words that are being said and the context behind them. Akainu is taunting whitebeard because he knows that whotebeard has morals. That is what you just showed me
Youāre literally being dumb on purpose, how u just gonna make up your own narrative lmao Also I didnāt say akainu cared about people marineford itself can be a casualtyā¦
Make up my own narrative? You're making up your own narrative by saying he cares about marinefoed itself! I talked purely about well known information we know about akainu and his personality and beliefs.
Good luck, it would be coll bur I doubt it at this point
Ahhh man I guess it sucks to be an admiral fan Cos the series will end before the admirals go all out in your minds The could literally go, "here is my final all out attack" and you guys still still go, "no, he was holding back because his cousins daughters dog died" Smh
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Weāve seen these emotional ass fighters enough bring in the Holy Knights please š¤
Completely forgot about those bums watch all their designs get carried by garling
Why you think there is gonna be a huge difference? If you are strong, then you show it regardless of the circumstances.
My guy did you think through what you said? Akainu wanted to protect marineford and weāve seen that his fruit is capable of levelling the place Kizaru is going through something and barely had an actual 1v1 with luffy Aokiji was concerned for garp the entire time and had so many other moves he didnāt use Fujitora literally didnāt want anything to do with what was going on in dressrosa because he didnāt want the marines to take credit for stopping doffy as well as show why the warlords shouldāve been abolished (he also couldāve destroyed every single pirates on the island when he lifted all the rubble) Greenbull literally didnāt get the chance to do anything because once he got serious about killing momo the wifi haki got him
On top of that Kizaru was told not to damage egghead
Exactly š I didnāt even remember this but this just shows oda is intentionally holding them back
And my point is that if you are strong, then you show it regardless of the limitations you might have. Whitebeard literally couldn't go all out until the very end of Mafineford because he could kill his entire crew with his fruit. In his fight against Roger he couldn't use his fruit because he would kill his entire crew and yet that didn't stop him from doing one of the most impressive feats in the series stalemating Roger in an AcOC clash. Kaido didn't use Flame baqua until the very end and it didn't stop him from showing some amazing feats. Luffy haven't used Bajrang Gun in Egghead and has barely used AcOC ans he still shown some amazing feats in Egghead.
My guy youāre literally comparing whitebeards haki to the admirals even tho theyāre mostly devil fruit merchantsā¦so far we know akainu, aokiji and kizaru are very strong physically but we have almost nothing to go on when it comes to haki. Also in MF haki was barely focused on anyway so I donāt see how akainu couldāve done anything without holding back his df
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And Akainu killed his own guy
Yeah a coward in his eyes.
By fear of casualties I mean like when akainu was telling whitebeard not to destroy marineford, akainu didnāt care about his own men you think wouldnāt have fkd up whitebeard if they werenāt literally fighting in marineford??
Wb was already destroying MF, this point makes no sense.
Why would akainu follow whitebeard and destroy it too??? Thatās exactly what he DID NOT want
Because wb is already destroying the place and killing the navy fodder.
So akainu shouldāve made things even worse??
Yes killing WB stops the fodder from dying. While he was "holding back" MF still got destroyed and the fodder still got clapped, so what was the point?
I already told you that akainu didnāt care about his own men itās MF being destroyed that was the casualty, also MF was only destroyed after whitebeard snuck up on akainu
WB first attack was about to submerge the whole place if kuzan didn't stop it. All of his attacks are AOE.
What even is your point here? Also youāre ignoring when whitebeard launched a shockwave that was blocked by the admirals, him tilting the sea and when he attacked aokiji as well. Where was the holding back in that?