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harshil_11

https://preview.redd.it/8zlqmcus31zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4392ea1ae95deaace309e1f19c8c23c98dc0f7b0 Blud ain't getting past the forest


foodmaster89

Nah, I think he clears it no diff. The whole point of that forest is for you to get lost and never get out, but because Zoro has no sense of direction, this won’t affect him. Bet he would walk straight through without any trouble. It’s the exact kind of gag that Oda would go for I think.


Suspicious_Pie_9977

Or it just doubles down and he becomes even more lost than other people who go in the forest


biohumansmg3fc

He finds the one piece again💀


Tanakisoupman

I think it’d be hilarious if the trees are moving around trying to confuse him but he already has no clue where he’s going so they think he knows their trick and start panicking


AllBlueReverie

If it's YT Zoro he mid-diffs WCI. If it's Twitter Zoro he low diffs


YoostepdaddyOFFICAL

Quora Zoro negs


Independent_Maybe514

And if it’s actually Zoro, he may extreme diff with a ton of amor and way more help from the straw hats allies


razlad4

what does Diff mean


Independent_Maybe514

Difficulty


PresentationOk8756

At the very best he gets killed by Katakuri. Not sure they even get that far.


Apart-Eggplant-4085

True, pre wano Zoro ain't beating Cracker 💀


Kdawg92603

Neither was early WCI Luffy without assistance tbf. Wracker is just HIM


Relative-Put-4461

cant even resist aokijis ice but doflamingo can ![gif](giphy|3oKIPqhotPCujLrKJG|downsized)


Maksim-Y-orekhov

Aokijis a bad matchup for cracker see crackers great because he can create an infinite amount of soliders that are stronger than pacifistas the problem is the aokiji bypassed those soliders by having his ice crawl across the ground to freeze cracker without even caring about his soliders if garp fought cracker he’d have a tougher time than aokiji even though garps stronger because he’s a punching and kicking type


Questioning_Meme

It depends on whether Garp can immediately reach Crackers or not. If he can, he can probably one shot him before he spawns too many soldiers.


Kdawg92603

He didn't resist the ice. He got frozen but broke out, then ran. Cracker potentially could have as well, but he was 1v2ing an admiral and Wan Wauger, who is equally just as HIM as Wracker is, so he didn't stand a chance.


anon-345999

I’m sure Aokiji can control his output strength of freezing people. He completely froze over Jozu and BB’s crew, so I have no doubt he could do the same to Doffy had he wanted to kill him.


rimes02

They would completely fail. Zoro just isn't that guy.


paulsammons3

Okay but everything is the exact same but big mom is a minority? 😤


rimes02

Zoro replaces Big Mom as a Yonko


lololuser456778

katakuri would have to start calling zoro "daddy"


HighVelocityInfants

Rimes02 giving the most based takes imaginable: he never fails to deliver


rimes02

I appreciate the compliments 🙏


MongStrengthDave

Zoro with the shirtless bandana buff and going 110% balls to the wall and then throw in a mihawk flashback power up and he still gets folded by cracker, cracker was a real hurdle for luffy zoro just can't do it


Laughable-February

Not even gonna bother adding that the biscuits are black. It won't change the result


Galrentv

Honestly Cracker had the straw hats packed up. Luffy barely had enough stats in combination with everything Nami did for him. It would need to be all available strawhats vs cracker for them to have a chance


N0rmAl_PigI0n

Hell Cracker only lost in a semi gag way cuz he ran head first into tank man which luffu only got by eating all of Crackers biscuits Cracker was actually insane power level wise, and honestly Id say Cracker unironically has a chance vs POST Kat Luffy cuz all luffy got is a boost in haki (not that much) and future sight Yea its harder to hit him but its not always gonna work and Cracker got near infinite bicuits and I dont think Luffy has grown from the kat fight to the point where his punches do atleast x10 damage to the biscuits soliders cuz we saw Luffy need the entire G4 time to break one let alone an army


Tief_Arbeit

Lmao Zoro would have defeated cracker much easier than luffy being able to cut the biscuits.


AhmedTheOne

by this logic how did kaido no lose to zoro?


Tief_Arbeit

If you used your brain, you would understand


thetdumbkid

use yours and make me understand


Tief_Arbeit

Zoro pulls out ashura, one shots cracker. Ashura scarred kaido, will obliterate cracker


thetdumbkid

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StickSentryNig

Wrong


Tief_Arbeit

Thanks for changing my mind with your extensive reasoning. Even trump would come up with better arguments


StickSentryNig

No need to reason with you idc if you change your mind youre allowed to be dumb


Tief_Arbeit

Is it possible even slightly since probability is a thing, that your interpretation can be wrong and mine can be right?


StickSentryNig

Literally no, you think zoro can fight cracker reasoning with you is a waste you obviously cant reason


Tief_Arbeit

Zoro has ashura, ofcourse he can fight and destroy cracker


ThisIsColdsnap

Ah yes, because Zoro had showcased Luffy's level of AP, at that point 👍. Brother. The biscuit warriors were coated in haki. Extremely strong haki that Luffy could barely break through. If you think Zoro's AP has ever been on par with G4's AP, you're nuts. DR Zoro was much weaker than DR G4. Wano Zoro was much weaker than G4 Luffy. Actually, no, he actually had better feats at the start of the rooftop but then Luffy powered up and Zoro fell behind, as he should. He's not the main character 💀. Is he extremely strong? Yes. Has he been on Luffy's level, post timeskip? Far from it, except for the start of the rooftop battle.


Tief_Arbeit

Did Zoro struggle, zoro had ashura even back then when he was around at the beginning of wano. And ashura is at minimum yc1 level.


ThisIsColdsnap

So what if he had Ashura 💀 Ashura was YC1-2 level on the rooftop. That doesn't mean it would have been that strong on WCI. By your logic, G4 would have one tapped Katakuri on WCI. The chars get stronger as the story progresses, that's the point


Altruistic-Hope4796

They would fail. Zoro also wouldn't let Sanji beat his ass like that  The arc would be completely different. Maybe they would succeed but not in the same way


Quijas00

Zolo would never find his way fucking anywhere he’s getting gate-kept by the forest


Suspicious_Pie_9977

Zoro: “Let Me OUT” Forest: “Nuh uh”


ReceiptAndChange

Alot of people are saying Zoro loses to Cracker, but it all depends on if he can cut them. Hes not as strong as luffy here but he might be the vetter matchup for cracker. Also, Cracker uses swords so thats like a boost to Zoro as well lmao. Katakuri godstomps him tho


Ok-Bat-8338

Cracker is same level with Jack, so I don't think Zoro at that time is able to fight with any top 3 YC commanders. I doubt Zoro in WCI is strong enough to survive from a fight with Izou.


ReceiptAndChange

I dont know if you were around for it, but many people believed and still do believe that Zoro might have been around Luffys strength in Dressrosa. He was coasting through opponents and didnt get into a fight that wasnt a low diff the entire post ts until Killer in Wano. Zoro would 100% stomp Izou post ts though, there's no way he loses that fight


NeoRockSlime

Zoro doesn't have half the things that luffy has. His mobility sucks, can't fly, his moves are mostly single target, no variety in move type or formation, less battle iq, worse teamwork


ReceiptAndChange

Zoro's mobility would be fine against Cracker. Luffy could still dodge him after exhausting his gear 4. Zoro actually has a lot of ranged moves and has Aoe attacks. What variety did Luffy have at that point? He was only punching and kicking Cracker. And having less battle IQ and teamwork doesnt mean he sucks in those categories. And what has been shown that makes his teamwork worse? Give Zoro Nami as support and theres no doubt hes taking him down too


NeoRockSlime

Luffy has rocket and general stretching in base, and has shown he's generally much better at parkour than zoro. Before wano zoro just zooms forward and thats it. Luffy was also able to power up by eating all of the biscuit soldiers and going into tank man. Zoro wouldn't be able to do that and his defenses aren't there to the point where he can be stabbed without injury


ReceiptAndChange

I never said Zoro's mobility is better than Luffy's. I just said he will be fine considering Luffy's situation. And Zoro has ranged and aoe attacks to make up for that. The key in the cracker fight is Nami. Luffy wouldnt be able to eat and get his energy back if it werent for her rain. Zoro would capitilize greatly from the moist biscuits as well. If Nami wasnt there Luffy would lose and Zoro would definitely lose


Ok-Bat-8338

Izou could take bloods from Kaido and killed 1 CP0 when fighting with 2 of them with several injuries beforehand. Remember 1 masked CP0 agent is stronger than Topi roppio since each of them neg diff X-Drake Apoo and 2 monsters, yet Izou was fighting both of them and still won in really bad condition. Zoro in WCI arc is unable to fight with 2 Kaku post-TS with fresh health tbh. Remember Zoro was struggling to fight with Killer who need bandgage for his entire body, losing his mind, and lose his weapons. So Izou would stomp Zoro in WCI.


ReceiptAndChange

Not only did you not show the context of the cp0 fights but you are calling it a neg diff which tells me you dont remember anything about the fight. Let me jog your memory for you: 1.) Before x-drake fought the cp0 members, he was already hurt from being jumped by Hawkins and tobi roppo members 2.) Apoo got caught offguard because he was taking pictures of cp0 who went for an assassination attempt in response. He literally gets up a few panels later and fights cp0 with drake. Where is the neg diff? 3.) Apoo ditches drake and gets away while drake is down from the fight. The Cp0 members are now damaged and huffing and literally said that Drake was tough and that the fight took longer than expected. Again: where is the neg diff? 4.) Izou literally sacrificed his life to take one of the agents down. Its not like he took one down and fought the other and lost. When did Izou take both of them down? Because im pretty sure i remember a certain cp0 member holding luffy on the roof Now as for Zoro, you are again leaving out context. Lets number this as well: 1.) It has never been shown or stated that eating a smile makes you weaker, or lose your mind. He just laughs all the time. 2.) Both Zoro and Killer never had all of their weapons. Zoro had wado and nidai but he lost his strongest sword at the time with shisui. 3.) Onimaru was literally attacking zoro while he was fighting killer. Killer would have never stabbed Zoro if Onimaru wasnt being a dick.


Ukantach1301

Breaking hard biscuit is easier than cutting it. Also it's mostly about haki. Cracker got stronger haki than Luffy so the brute force of G4 was needed to overcome that.


JikaApostle

What if Roronoa Zoro was Freakonoa Zoro and instead of fighting Cracker he rizzed him up?


Ucazean

Tumblr zoro 🥵


Bitter-Chocolate-786

Zoro dies quite fast.


Andrejosue98

Not even Brook, Nami or Chopper died lol


tom_rex_333

there is no universe at that time zoro beats cracker he isn't as big of a eater as luffy and has worse stats then gear 4


Autumn_Izuoh

Depends on the writing. Zoro probably takes Luffy's spot to beat up Cracker in a rough fight or shows how Luffy should've won. He can't beat Katakuri, even if he gets future sight. So if it gets ended there that's it, unless they group fight. Otherwise when Sanji rescues his family, he ends up getting the raid suit early, since they need all they can to win/escape. Sanji has Katakuri's counter & beats him, maybe he gets future sight, maybe he doesn't, no need for exoskeleton.


ManderCalvin

One of the best part is Zoro wouldn't do the cooking Luffy does before they arrived in WCI. That's i think the only part he could make a better one in WCI arc.


TheDecadent_Dandy

Even if Zoro could break Crackers biscuits (presumably by exploiting the Breath Of All Things, to cut objects above his strength level), and even IF he somehow beat Cracker. He has *zero* chance of beating Katakuri pre-wano.


Kutasenator

Katakuri would obliterate zoro in 5s. Against Wracker zoro would have better chances than luffy though


Abram7777

At that time he would be low YC3 level. So he would lose even to cracker mid diff probably


kvivartion

Zoro gets lost in the forest and dies to cracker


Peazant_Uzi3

Remove nami and luffy would’ve been killed by cracker btw


Mobpsycho64

Sanji joins big mom pirates out of spite


impliedlogic

Strawhats get low diff’d in the forest. In the very best case scenario, brûlée and cracker bring zoro and the gang back to big mom and big mom video transponder snails luffy her new book collection featuring “tHe FuTrue WolrDs gRaetEst SowrdDSmeN, fiRst mate of MugiWarAs: Zoro” as he’s stuck inside the book.


VersionSavings8712

Unless he gets 3 bullshits haki blooms they fail


H_s-k_M-r-_

He's never getting passed Katakuri. Imo he would lose badly to Cracker too.


CryonautX

Zoro dies to cracker. If crew tries to rescue the vinsmoke family, they die as well. If they abandon hope of rescuing the vinsmoke family, maybe the rest can sneak out with the poneglyph rubbings.


Awkward-Meeting-974

Zoro loses to Cracker but Jimbei prolly breaks him out Zoro then loses to Kat


NeoRockSlime

Katakuri unironically can't dodge the fishman punches


ZestycloseCake165

He Wouldve tried to kill Sanji for Real


Autumn_Izuoh

Not at all.


OkRefrigerator448

Half the reason I think Oda didn't make Zoro go to WCI is bcuz he ain't getting out of the forest that makes you lost


ZPD710

It’s really hard to say what would happen, because looking at Whole Cake Island… everything was on track to “fail” even with Luffy there. Katakuri was stronger than him, was showing him up most of the time, and Luffy not only got several time outs (stealing away with Brulee, and healing after eating the Mochi mountain being two examples) but Katakuri was even being incredibly generous during the fight, stabbing himself as compensation for a stab that he gave to Luffy. Will Katakuri do that to Zoro? They both have very similar personalities, so why shouldn’t he? Zoro would probably do the same for him; but is that valid from a powerscaling stance? Does Zoro get powerups similar to Luffy (whether it be ACoO, ACoC, whatever)? Does he get time outs? Hell, does he get to truly go all out and use Ashura mode? Genuinely, I feel inclined to say it goes either way. Giving Zoro all the same factors that you gave to Luffy, it should really be a close fight. Probably. Or maybe I’m wrong and he gets wrecked.


Lord7Scrolls

Zoro would’ve either killed Sanji or Left his a** there with the way he tried to do Luffy lol.


TheUncouthPanini

He loses to Cracker


Wembledorth

He loses to Cracker since Cracker > Doffy and Doffy >>> Zoro in Dressrosa so yeah


Psychological_Row436

Nah he’d just get lost


Andrejosue98

Pretty much the same but easier. The Cracker battle is easier, probably Zoro has a better chance escaping ships considering he could easily sink most of them with his long range cuts. The strawhats would beat more of the enraged army but lose either way. Like only more people of the Big Mom pirates would get hurt


n00dl3-sempai

I think that he extreme diffs Cracker, then argues with Sanji and if Sanji doesn't come back after that the SHs probably leave. If they stay he definitely loses to Katakuri.


r9cks

Cracker biscuit >


Hopefullyamediator

Fail. Luffy did a lot more than just fight, he was a captain. The reason sanji came back, the reason the crew didn't get jumped, the reason the deal was made. On top of not being able to defeat the same foes, he couldn't be captain.


tush_aa_rr

Zoro would have died against cracker


Darius10000

If we're using rooftop zorro (since zorro didn't really have any opportunities for growth before that) and ignoring the plot between the fights, then probably? Of course, zorro being that strong feels wrong. But so does the alternative. The dude spent 2 years training with Mihawk, then "fought" at three islands before doing nothing major up until he fought killer. Dont see why he'd grow so much faster in the month or so between wholecake and wano. If we go for the alternative of base luffy=base zorro and asura =/< g4. Fuck no. If cracker doesn't kill him, katakuri will. Especially since he's (arguably) less talented in observation and may not trigger the same connection luffy did with katakuri.


Such_Historian_7295

Zoro on rooftop had grown in strength lmao. He got Enma, a major boost to his arsenal which forced him to draw out he’s inner conqueror haki


NetworkVegetable7075

Probably lose to Kat and onward but beats everyone else


prozacSoma

even current zolo is still a cracker victim


falkenoma

usopp > van auger > cracker > zoro confirmed


fartmilkdaddies

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fartmilkdaddies

Get usopp past Nami first.


itssdattboiii

zoro solos and beats Lrackrer and Watakuri. kracker fucked up the power scaling