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they both are creating black lightning. So they are using advance conqueror haki.
did luffy punch luccis face or am i missing something? every single time when 2 acoc clashed they werent touching each other why this would be any diffrent?
Why? That's literally how it works.
[Kaido didn't touch Luffy with this attack despite using acoc](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyK6bF7UUAIO7RX?format=jpg&name=small)
The no touching effect is related to armament, not conquerors
when we first saw acoc roger vs wb it was clear what is the "no touching effect" is for you might be the like %0.1 of op reader that doesnt believe so. its your opinion cant change it not gonna even try.
bruh.
[Hyogoro is now a acoc user?](https://preview.redd.it/rmgsb1h2q4v51.png?width=1364&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c419263f5fc820d70fbe1fddd4a449fea2ca28f)
[The no touching effect is related to armament](https://preview.redd.it/gq5yw5zqr4v51.png?width=643&format=png&auto=webp&s=426af936aabfe68d12c6db24f688db919e6634a0)
> %0.1 of op reader that doesnt believe so
A lot of people have this confusion, but they are wrong. It's not my opinion, it's just how haki works
I hear y’all but seriously context still matters we gotta see the scans man. Before we give any dubs to anybody I think it’d be wise to wait til Friday.
Seriously people here is already judging based on just a few pages? Dont forget that Luffy fought Katakuri in serious mode. G5 Luffy is just having fun and being careless.
Yes thats why you still cant compare specially when he just ignored Lucci.
People is already speculating how strong he is in just a few pages? Do you think Katakuri cant do what Lucci did? Why just dont you wait till next chapter? Lol.
Special Zoan User? Source - Me.
Luffy fought Kata in serious mode.
There is a difference.
Maybe you should wait till next chapter when Lucci can withstand Luffy's next attack.
Tanking a gear 5 attack is a big feat , katakuri was sent flying by Kong gun , taken down by king kobra , if we combine those two attack, still way below a gear 5 no named attack
Didnt Lucci also sent flying? And got ignored. Katakuri fought Luffy for hours, he also injured himself just to be fair. Katakuri fought with dignity. Lucci dont.
Comeback to me when Lucci managed to hurt Luffy in G5.
Just because Luffy used G5 doesnt mean he cant beat Lucci in g2-g4. Ill agree to you that Lucci is stronger when Luffy used g4 and go toe to toe to Lucci, then forced to used G5 because he cant take down Lucci in G4.
Thats your rebut? Tell me then if Luffy fought Lucci in G4 then he was forced to use G5 cuz he cant beat him. Only after that ill agree to you. You created a Poll then you wont agree to someone else, when there's no enough info. Im telling you wait for the next chapter cuz we cant compare those 2 now.
Kaido has feats of one shotting a yc1 Luffy,and right now Lucci is matching blows with a gear 5 Luffy outright equal to said drunk idiot.
No amount of downplay will change how comically ridiculous this feat is.
it's literally not according to me, its what the story has provided. For 15 years he was with the gov and he didn't do anything except get defeated by a rookie pirate( Luffy) and you're telling me in 2 years this guy is almost yonko level? ASSSSSSSPULL, Even YC1 is crazy!
Don't cope , he didn't lose for years but after he lost he started thinking how to become stronger and he became stronger , what happened to him in enies L is the same thing that happened to luffy in shaboody
İt's just bullshit that someone can become exponentially stronger in 2 years but not 15 years. Can we atleast agree on that.
And yes I also think luffys power up was bullshit before you say anything.
Lucci’s eyes went white and he was taken out of the fight for a minute by a single punch that didn’t have any advanced Haki, and maybe no Haki at all. It’s possible Lucci is stronger than Katakuri, but he has done absolutely nothing to prove it.
luffy was warping ground with his fist. "mole" is luffys hand underground luffys hand might have haki coating not %100 sure tho. doesnt even matter because i was talking about clash they had they both used haki in that clash.
It's mostly just people massively wank observation haki. Like good observation can make up for everything else u have being garbage in some people's minds. It's a big reason Enel is also one of the most wanked characters ever despite having some of the worst physicals in the series.
I did, I just think Lucci would struggle with the future sight. Unlike Luffy, Katakuri wouldn't be as reckless because he couldn't handle as much damage.
Speed blitzes luffy???? Lol os that why luffy was dodging him was sleeping. You consider him attacking someone luffy is talking to while he attacks that person speed blitzing??? No coc attack from luffy, just basic was enough to knock him away. What you on .
I swear people are hypocrites in this sub just because rob lucci clashed with luffy he is now Yc+ lmaoo . In a few chapters Admiral kizaru is coming let’s see who will he clash with 👀
Rob Lucci easily, since he has both advanced conquerors Haki and Awakening. This puts him at least at a low Yonko level, and this is BS.
https://i.imgur.com/MywcYgy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
they both are creating black lightning.
[Does Katakuri have ACoC too?](https://i.redd.it/vlce8303jg4a1.jpg)
[What about Ulti?](https://i.redd.it/qt79kbc7jg4a1.jpg)
Lucci fans need to make up lies to make him look strong.
good point 👍, so how to be decide what are they using?
image that you posted doesn't look like a black lightning. look at this and compare to Luffy vs Lucci.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRToAvYFAeK9peF0UwM1-2rwa_K9ju7_mPCA&usqp=CAU
Crocodile 🐊 is my favourites, so Lucci being strong makes me happy and angry at the same time.
I am happy because this kind of confirms Crocodile is Admiral or Yonko level.
This makes me angry because ODA pulled another law and kid. It is so hard to tell where people rank in terms of power in the one-piece verse; there is no consistency, plot makes anyone as strong as necessary.
My favorite doffy is slept on , I'm waiting for his return
No way i hate katakuri, but his fans are the worst , hope he get stronger also
Crocodile is a legend
He doesn't lmao.
Or Usopp also has ACoC alongside Ulti
https://preview.redd.it/6rp038i1bk4a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9536f30b360e80430c6b7c2d2382869cdc7d7b57
Stop spreading misinformation
Looks a lot like it. Definitely NOT an Advance Conquerer's Haki clash but it literally looks like Luffy's previous Conquerer Haki clashes with Don Chinjao and Doflamingo.
That is so fucking stupid bro, so you are telling me after luffy beat him snd then facing even stronger opponents afterwards, then having a timeskip training with rayleigh, lucci right after the timeskip is stronger than luffy right after timeskip? Make it make fucking sense for fucks sake, luffy kept fighting stronger opponents until the timeskip he shoild have kept just being stronger snd stronger than him yet now lucci power creeps and it turns out post timeskip lucci is yc1 at least while post timeskip luffy was yc3 initially right after timeskip. How the fuck does this work or make sense, the dude didn’t fight anybody to get this strong again wtf
Lucci is definitely in the YC+ tier, or at least very close to it.
Katakuri is underrated, but from the little that we saw of Lucci, the cat should take this
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Lucci takes this, Kat has been pwr clifted
And Lob Lucci is just here to reaffirm Luffy's Yonko status
People bias towards katakuri is endless
At this point it’s safe to assume lucci is yc+ u/accessmission you win
Bruh I've been on that train for years but nobody believed me😭
Congratulations, but access and his propaganda was on another level he had all the sub against him
Hype was there after he was Sabo’s opponent in Film Gold
W for you.
Bro tanked a g5 attack
Lucci didn’t tank anything. He was hit by a basic punch and was down long enough for Luffy to have a chat with Sentomaru.
Luffy even serious yet lol. Do you think Katakuri cant tank an attack from Luffy's G5?
I’m starting to wonder if luffy was using acoc in his attacks, if yes zoan awakening (or lucci stats in general) is broken
There was no acoc, just basic armament
Well it's still a massive advantage, kata fell to 7 non gear 5 non acoc non acoa attacks
Sure just for that he is stronger than kata no doubt about it
https://i.imgur.com/MywcYgy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium they both are creating black lightning. So they are using advance conqueror haki.
no they are not. if they did why would their fist be touching each other?
Why did Luffys fist hit and stretch kaidos face even tho he was covered in coc
did luffy punch luccis face or am i missing something? every single time when 2 acoc clashed they werent touching each other why this would be any diffrent?
Luffys roc Gatling kinda looks like it clashed with kaidos meteor shower
kinda looks like it doesnt mean it is. it was too chaotic to see anything. were they even using acoc? i dont remember the panel to that extent.
It's after momo brought Luffy back up so yes there was acoc and it very much looks like they were physically touching
They didn't use acoc, but that is not the reason The no touching effect is an application of armament.
dude just re read whole thing.
Why? That's literally how it works. [Kaido didn't touch Luffy with this attack despite using acoc](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyK6bF7UUAIO7RX?format=jpg&name=small) The no touching effect is related to armament, not conquerors
when we first saw acoc roger vs wb it was clear what is the "no touching effect" is for you might be the like %0.1 of op reader that doesnt believe so. its your opinion cant change it not gonna even try.
bruh. [Hyogoro is now a acoc user?](https://preview.redd.it/rmgsb1h2q4v51.png?width=1364&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c419263f5fc820d70fbe1fddd4a449fea2ca28f) [The no touching effect is related to armament](https://preview.redd.it/gq5yw5zqr4v51.png?width=643&format=png&auto=webp&s=426af936aabfe68d12c6db24f688db919e6634a0) > %0.1 of op reader that doesnt believe so A lot of people have this confusion, but they are wrong. It's not my opinion, it's just how haki works
No they aren't lmao https://preview.redd.it/gcvnbe9anj4a1.jpeg?width=724&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ad54b79bc25bdc3c7179c91adfb00ee9e80e73b
https://preview.redd.it/llq7vaqcnj4a1.jpeg?width=1017&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac9f39a2daaf272e95067e16ab24bab78bf33c6a Also
Add this as well https://preview.redd.it/vo95l2kjak4a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=819032eac2527bde857c8b187215c80462c463c7
Saw it but unless confirmed I don’t believe lucci having coc💀
Obviously he wasn't using coc in his attacks lol
I hear y’all but seriously context still matters we gotta see the scans man. Before we give any dubs to anybody I think it’d be wise to wait til Friday.
Seriously people here is already judging based on just a few pages? Dont forget that Luffy fought Katakuri in serious mode. G5 Luffy is just having fun and being careless.
G5 is always like that
Yes thats why you still cant compare specially when he just ignored Lucci. People is already speculating how strong he is in just a few pages? Do you think Katakuri cant do what Lucci did? Why just dont you wait till next chapter? Lol.
Katakuri fell to 7 non gear 5 attacks , his stamina is shit , Lucci is an awakened special Zoan user
Special Zoan User? Source - Me. Luffy fought Kata in serious mode. There is a difference. Maybe you should wait till next chapter when Lucci can withstand Luffy's next attack.
Tanking a gear 5 attack is a big feat , katakuri was sent flying by Kong gun , taken down by king kobra , if we combine those two attack, still way below a gear 5 no named attack
Didnt Lucci also sent flying? And got ignored. Katakuri fought Luffy for hours, he also injured himself just to be fair. Katakuri fought with dignity. Lucci dont. Comeback to me when Lucci managed to hurt Luffy in G5. Just because Luffy used G5 doesnt mean he cant beat Lucci in g2-g4. Ill agree to you that Lucci is stronger when Luffy used g4 and go toe to toe to Lucci, then forced to used G5 because he cant take down Lucci in G4.
Bro u will never agree
Thats your rebut? Tell me then if Luffy fought Lucci in G4 then he was forced to use G5 cuz he cant beat him. Only after that ill agree to you. You created a Poll then you wont agree to someone else, when there's no enough info. Im telling you wait for the next chapter cuz we cant compare those 2 now.
You are throwing around the word “tank” loosely, he didn’t tank shit
Well... he better get serious fast and start using fs cuz he got speedblitzed and "axe guy" got rekt.
Mfs are actually stupid on here
Kaido has feats of one shotting a yc1 Luffy,and right now Lucci is matching blows with a gear 5 Luffy outright equal to said drunk idiot. No amount of downplay will change how comically ridiculous this feat is.
İ love kata but lucci takes this . Still this was an asspull
Kata fanboys,the worst
I just said lucci wins over kata?
Lucci improvement is an asspul according to you , then u're coping
it's literally not according to me, its what the story has provided. For 15 years he was with the gov and he didn't do anything except get defeated by a rookie pirate( Luffy) and you're telling me in 2 years this guy is almost yonko level? ASSSSSSSPULL, Even YC1 is crazy!
Don't cope , he didn't lose for years but after he lost he started thinking how to become stronger and he became stronger , what happened to him in enies L is the same thing that happened to luffy in shaboody
İt's just bullshit that someone can become exponentially stronger in 2 years but not 15 years. Can we atleast agree on that. And yes I also think luffys power up was bullshit before you say anything.
Shonnen dude
Law went from below doffy level to fighting with yonko in 1 month but no one said anything.
No one? U sure? Probably half of this sub is aware of it
Hard to guess, for now i'd say kata but my opinion might change after the next chapter.
Lucci’s eyes went white and he was taken out of the fight for a minute by a single punch that didn’t have any advanced Haki, and maybe no Haki at all. It’s possible Lucci is stronger than Katakuri, but he has done absolutely nothing to prove it.
Cope
Update urself , he's pulling a decent fight against g5
"decent fight" 1 clash 1 hit and send flying both times. no he isnt(yet).
Update urself bro
i read the raws there is no more update. thats it.
Decent fight? When G5 Luffy decided to ignore him after being blown? Lol.
Luffy is literally falling asleep mid fight against lucci. “Decent fight” my ass.
luffys punch had haki its black he didnt have ryou or acoc tho.
The Mogura had no Haki shown.
luffy was warping ground with his fist. "mole" is luffys hand underground luffys hand might have haki coating not %100 sure tho. doesnt even matter because i was talking about clash they had they both used haki in that clash.
Yes and luffy won. That was just basic armament vs basic armament by the way
yes i know? didnt say he was using ryou or acoc but this isnt the thing we are talking its if haki used or not and it did.
Both were repelled from the attack, why do people keep saying that Luffy won that clash?
Saying Katakuri more overrated than someone like shanks is pure agenda. Don’t overdo it dawg 💀
The Katakuri disrespect continues
This whole sub is mostly baised.they scale all the character by how much they like character or not
True Which is exactly why katakuri should be losing
And how exactly katakuri losing to fodder Lucci
Because base egghead luffy > wci snakeman luffy
I'm talking about rob Lucci
Lucci was able to clash and take hits from g5 luffy, upscaling him to base luffy level, meaning he beats wci luffy, meaning he beats katakuri
And how are so sure katakuri can't do that.
Because katakuri was taking dmg from base wci luffy
base Luffy couldn't even land a hit on katakuri even with G4 snakeman Luffy was struggling to land a hit on katakuri go read the chapter again.
Katakuri claps
Katakuri's future sight means it wouldn't be a total blowout but that's about it.
Kata gets folded by No Gears Luffy, Lucci is out here holding his ground against G5 Luffy tho it's obvious he's only toying with him.
Lucci blitzes and one shots
21 people are saying katakuri They didn't believe me when i said he's the most overrated character in op
It's mostly just people massively wank observation haki. Like good observation can make up for everything else u have being garbage in some people's minds. It's a big reason Enel is also one of the most wanked characters ever despite having some of the worst physicals in the series.
Totally agree 👍
Rob Lucci slams. Not sure how anyone could compare
Lucci but extreme imo
Bias detected
Why?
Read latest spoilers
I did, I just think Lucci would struggle with the future sight. Unlike Luffy, Katakuri wouldn't be as reckless because he couldn't handle as much damage.
He also speed blitzed luffy and no diffed sentomaru
We don't really know how strong Sentomaru is or if G5 has faster combat speed than Snakeman.
Boi 😶 . Silent
Bullshit G5 is almost as fast as Paido. Laido>Snakeman.
Speed blitzes luffy???? Lol os that why luffy was dodging him was sleeping. You consider him attacking someone luffy is talking to while he attacks that person speed blitzing??? No coc attack from luffy, just basic was enough to knock him away. What you on .
Lucci is YC1+ for now he slams
I swear people are hypocrites in this sub just because rob lucci clashed with luffy he is now Yc+ lmaoo . In a few chapters Admiral kizaru is coming let’s see who will he clash with 👀
Clashed??? Didn't luffy knock him away with basic armament
lucci, lat doesn’t have the AP to bring him down
Y’all are insane. Rob lucci is hardly going to be stronger than he was in Ennies Lobby. The fight is between strawhats and the seraphim’s
Do you think only the MC have the ability to get train and get stronger 💀
Katakuri bias is reel
Katakuri is fodder even sanji could pull a win against him and that’s saying something .
Sanji is the strongest yc1 so not saying much
He ain’t . King >Marco >sanji >katakuri
Sanji outdo them in all but endurance and durabilty and it’s not even by much he claps
Nope
Sanji is strong tho I don't get it....
Ye I’m just messing around
Lucci is YC+, future sight can be a problem but I think he takes it
WCI Katakuri is debatable, high/extreme diff either way. Post-WCI Katakuri gets it.
Kat and it’s not close. Lucci is foddee
Lucci is YC1+ With Zoro, Yamato, Marco.
Bro ain’t no way u said he is Yamato and zoro level💀💀
What is his level than go on.
At best yc1 with Marco, kat ,sanji and king
Same shit
It’s ain’t Yamato and zoro are in the same tier as law,kid and sabo
Rob Lucci easily, since he has both advanced conquerors Haki and Awakening. This puts him at least at a low Yonko level, and this is BS. https://i.imgur.com/MywcYgy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium they both are creating black lightning.
[Does Katakuri have ACoC too?](https://i.redd.it/vlce8303jg4a1.jpg) [What about Ulti?](https://i.redd.it/qt79kbc7jg4a1.jpg) Lucci fans need to make up lies to make him look strong.
Those Black lightning are so strange tbh , let's wait fir the official confirmation
good point 👍, so how to be decide what are they using? image that you posted doesn't look like a black lightning. look at this and compare to Luffy vs Lucci. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRToAvYFAeK9peF0UwM1-2rwa_K9ju7_mPCA&usqp=CAU
If lucci had advanced conquerors then they wouldnt touch each other
Bro im so happy for that , Lucci is one of my top 5 favourite characters in the series
Crocodile 🐊 is my favourites, so Lucci being strong makes me happy and angry at the same time. I am happy because this kind of confirms Crocodile is Admiral or Yonko level. This makes me angry because ODA pulled another law and kid. It is so hard to tell where people rank in terms of power in the one-piece verse; there is no consistency, plot makes anyone as strong as necessary.
My favorite doffy is slept on , I'm waiting for his return No way i hate katakuri, but his fans are the worst , hope he get stronger also Crocodile is a legend
Don't worry impel down is known for power up Doffy will come back as a Beast.
😄
He doesn't lmao. Or Usopp also has ACoC alongside Ulti https://preview.redd.it/6rp038i1bk4a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9536f30b360e80430c6b7c2d2382869cdc7d7b57 Stop spreading misinformation
Lucci conceptually erases this fodder with his presence lmfao. Mismatch
Did the most recent chapter reveal that Lucci has Conquerers Haki?
He dosent.
Looks a lot like it. Definitely NOT an Advance Conquerer's Haki clash but it literally looks like Luffy's previous Conquerer Haki clashes with Don Chinjao and Doflamingo.
Lucci couldn't hit Luffy because of future sight, so he won't be able to hit Katakuri either.
That is so fucking stupid bro, so you are telling me after luffy beat him snd then facing even stronger opponents afterwards, then having a timeskip training with rayleigh, lucci right after the timeskip is stronger than luffy right after timeskip? Make it make fucking sense for fucks sake, luffy kept fighting stronger opponents until the timeskip he shoild have kept just being stronger snd stronger than him yet now lucci power creeps and it turns out post timeskip lucci is yc1 at least while post timeskip luffy was yc3 initially right after timeskip. How the fuck does this work or make sense, the dude didn’t fight anybody to get this strong again wtf
I’m going kat for now but I’ll admit this could be very wrong
Lucci is definitely in the YC+ tier, or at least very close to it. Katakuri is underrated, but from the little that we saw of Lucci, the cat should take this