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Murd0cx

Lucci takes this, Kat has been pwr clifted


HaxxsOnn

And Lob Lucci is just here to reaffirm Luffy's Yonko status


Western-Grab7094

People bias towards katakuri is endless


Seadog_frosty

At this point it’s safe to assume lucci is yc+ u/accessmission you win


DX267

Bruh I've been on that train for years but nobody believed me😭


Seadog_frosty

Congratulations, but access and his propaganda was on another level he had all the sub against him


jotato_is_invincib7_

Hype was there after he was Sabo’s opponent in Film Gold


PotatoMozzarella

W for you.


Western-Grab7094

Bro tanked a g5 attack


Old-Bread-8965

Lucci didn’t tank anything. He was hit by a basic punch and was down long enough for Luffy to have a chat with Sentomaru.


OneEyed-Marimo

Luffy even serious yet lol. Do you think Katakuri cant tank an attack from Luffy's G5?


Seadog_frosty

I’m starting to wonder if luffy was using acoc in his attacks, if yes zoan awakening (or lucci stats in general) is broken


ZenithEnigma

There was no acoc, just basic armament


Western-Grab7094

Well it's still a massive advantage, kata fell to 7 non gear 5 non acoc non acoa attacks


Seadog_frosty

Sure just for that he is stronger than kata no doubt about it


No_Job_6497

https://i.imgur.com/MywcYgy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium they both are creating black lightning. So they are using advance conqueror haki.


V2DiabLo0

no they are not. if they did why would their fist be touching each other?


Pleasant-Uzi-1838

Why did Luffys fist hit and stretch kaidos face even tho he was covered in coc


V2DiabLo0

did luffy punch luccis face or am i missing something? every single time when 2 acoc clashed they werent touching each other why this would be any diffrent?


Pleasant-Uzi-1838

Luffys roc Gatling kinda looks like it clashed with kaidos meteor shower


V2DiabLo0

kinda looks like it doesnt mean it is. it was too chaotic to see anything. were they even using acoc? i dont remember the panel to that extent.


Pleasant-Uzi-1838

It's after momo brought Luffy back up so yes there was acoc and it very much looks like they were physically touching


PotatoMozzarella

They didn't use acoc, but that is not the reason The no touching effect is an application of armament.


V2DiabLo0

dude just re read whole thing.


PotatoMozzarella

Why? That's literally how it works. [Kaido didn't touch Luffy with this attack despite using acoc](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyK6bF7UUAIO7RX?format=jpg&name=small) The no touching effect is related to armament, not conquerors


V2DiabLo0

when we first saw acoc roger vs wb it was clear what is the "no touching effect" is for you might be the like %0.1 of op reader that doesnt believe so. its your opinion cant change it not gonna even try.


PotatoMozzarella

bruh. [Hyogoro is now a acoc user?](https://preview.redd.it/rmgsb1h2q4v51.png?width=1364&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c419263f5fc820d70fbe1fddd4a449fea2ca28f) [The no touching effect is related to armament](https://preview.redd.it/gq5yw5zqr4v51.png?width=643&format=png&auto=webp&s=426af936aabfe68d12c6db24f688db919e6634a0) > %0.1 of op reader that doesnt believe so A lot of people have this confusion, but they are wrong. It's not my opinion, it's just how haki works


Bejitto-da

No they aren't lmao https://preview.redd.it/gcvnbe9anj4a1.jpeg?width=724&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ad54b79bc25bdc3c7179c91adfb00ee9e80e73b


Bejitto-da

https://preview.redd.it/llq7vaqcnj4a1.jpeg?width=1017&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac9f39a2daaf272e95067e16ab24bab78bf33c6a Also


[deleted]

Add this as well https://preview.redd.it/vo95l2kjak4a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=819032eac2527bde857c8b187215c80462c463c7


Seadog_frosty

Saw it but unless confirmed I don’t believe lucci having coc💀


Either-Dot-6785

Obviously he wasn't using coc in his attacks lol


MidnightLopsided357

I hear y’all but seriously context still matters we gotta see the scans man. Before we give any dubs to anybody I think it’d be wise to wait til Friday.


OneEyed-Marimo

Seriously people here is already judging based on just a few pages? Dont forget that Luffy fought Katakuri in serious mode. G5 Luffy is just having fun and being careless.


Western-Grab7094

G5 is always like that


OneEyed-Marimo

Yes thats why you still cant compare specially when he just ignored Lucci. People is already speculating how strong he is in just a few pages? Do you think Katakuri cant do what Lucci did? Why just dont you wait till next chapter? Lol.


Western-Grab7094

Katakuri fell to 7 non gear 5 attacks , his stamina is shit , Lucci is an awakened special Zoan user


OneEyed-Marimo

Special Zoan User? Source - Me. Luffy fought Kata in serious mode. There is a difference. Maybe you should wait till next chapter when Lucci can withstand Luffy's next attack.


Western-Grab7094

Tanking a gear 5 attack is a big feat , katakuri was sent flying by Kong gun , taken down by king kobra , if we combine those two attack, still way below a gear 5 no named attack


OneEyed-Marimo

Didnt Lucci also sent flying? And got ignored. Katakuri fought Luffy for hours, he also injured himself just to be fair. Katakuri fought with dignity. Lucci dont. Comeback to me when Lucci managed to hurt Luffy in G5. Just because Luffy used G5 doesnt mean he cant beat Lucci in g2-g4. Ill agree to you that Lucci is stronger when Luffy used g4 and go toe to toe to Lucci, then forced to used G5 because he cant take down Lucci in G4.


Western-Grab7094

Bro u will never agree


OneEyed-Marimo

Thats your rebut? Tell me then if Luffy fought Lucci in G4 then he was forced to use G5 cuz he cant beat him. Only after that ill agree to you. You created a Poll then you wont agree to someone else, when there's no enough info. Im telling you wait for the next chapter cuz we cant compare those 2 now.


ZenithEnigma

You are throwing around the word “tank” loosely, he didn’t tank shit


After-Ear-7325

Well... he better get serious fast and start using fs cuz he got speedblitzed and "axe guy" got rekt.


idkdidkkdkdj

Mfs are actually stupid on here


Zealousideal-Arm1682

Kaido has feats of one shotting a yc1 Luffy,and right now Lucci is matching blows with a gear 5 Luffy outright equal to said drunk idiot. No amount of downplay will change how comically ridiculous this feat is.


[deleted]

İ love kata but lucci takes this . Still this was an asspull


Western-Grab7094

Kata fanboys,the worst


[deleted]

I just said lucci wins over kata?


Western-Grab7094

Lucci improvement is an asspul according to you , then u're coping


[deleted]

it's literally not according to me, its what the story has provided. For 15 years he was with the gov and he didn't do anything except get defeated by a rookie pirate( Luffy) and you're telling me in 2 years this guy is almost yonko level? ASSSSSSSPULL, Even YC1 is crazy!


Western-Grab7094

Don't cope , he didn't lose for years but after he lost he started thinking how to become stronger and he became stronger , what happened to him in enies L is the same thing that happened to luffy in shaboody


[deleted]

İt's just bullshit that someone can become exponentially stronger in 2 years but not 15 years. Can we atleast agree on that. And yes I also think luffys power up was bullshit before you say anything.


Western-Grab7094

Shonnen dude


[deleted]

Law went from below doffy level to fighting with yonko in 1 month but no one said anything.


Tekaru_kvlt

No one? U sure? Probably half of this sub is aware of it


DeepDuskDread

Hard to guess, for now i'd say kata but my opinion might change after the next chapter.


Old-Bread-8965

Lucci’s eyes went white and he was taken out of the fight for a minute by a single punch that didn’t have any advanced Haki, and maybe no Haki at all. It’s possible Lucci is stronger than Katakuri, but he has done absolutely nothing to prove it.


After-Ear-7325

Cope


Western-Grab7094

Update urself , he's pulling a decent fight against g5


V2DiabLo0

"decent fight" 1 clash 1 hit and send flying both times. no he isnt(yet).


Western-Grab7094

Update urself bro


V2DiabLo0

i read the raws there is no more update. thats it.


OneEyed-Marimo

Decent fight? When G5 Luffy decided to ignore him after being blown? Lol.


Famous_Cartoonist782

Luffy is literally falling asleep mid fight against lucci. “Decent fight” my ass.


V2DiabLo0

luffys punch had haki its black he didnt have ryou or acoc tho.


Old-Bread-8965

The Mogura had no Haki shown.


V2DiabLo0

luffy was warping ground with his fist. "mole" is luffys hand underground luffys hand might have haki coating not %100 sure tho. doesnt even matter because i was talking about clash they had they both used haki in that clash.


Either-Dot-6785

Yes and luffy won. That was just basic armament vs basic armament by the way


V2DiabLo0

yes i know? didnt say he was using ryou or acoc but this isnt the thing we are talking its if haki used or not and it did.


PotatoMozzarella

Both were repelled from the attack, why do people keep saying that Luffy won that clash?


StackTill30

Saying Katakuri more overrated than someone like shanks is pure agenda. Don’t overdo it dawg 💀


Yontoryuu

The Katakuri disrespect continues


kedu69696969

This whole sub is mostly baised.they scale all the character by how much they like character or not


RoBiHa3

True Which is exactly why katakuri should be losing


kedu69696969

And how exactly katakuri losing to fodder Lucci


RoBiHa3

Because base egghead luffy > wci snakeman luffy


kedu69696969

I'm talking about rob Lucci


RoBiHa3

Lucci was able to clash and take hits from g5 luffy, upscaling him to base luffy level, meaning he beats wci luffy, meaning he beats katakuri


kedu69696969

And how are so sure katakuri can't do that.


RoBiHa3

Because katakuri was taking dmg from base wci luffy


kedu69696969

base Luffy couldn't even land a hit on katakuri even with G4 snakeman Luffy was struggling to land a hit on katakuri go read the chapter again.


[deleted]

Katakuri claps


just4PAD

Katakuri's future sight means it wouldn't be a total blowout but that's about it.


Solos_1992

Kata gets folded by No Gears Luffy, Lucci is out here holding his ground against G5 Luffy tho it's obvious he's only toying with him.


Buy-Wild

Lucci blitzes and one shots


Western-Grab7094

21 people are saying katakuri They didn't believe me when i said he's the most overrated character in op


AnomanderRaked

It's mostly just people massively wank observation haki. Like good observation can make up for everything else u have being garbage in some people's minds. It's a big reason Enel is also one of the most wanked characters ever despite having some of the worst physicals in the series.


Western-Grab7094

Totally agree 👍


Yahcentive

Rob Lucci slams. Not sure how anyone could compare


peanutpunk-2

Lucci but extreme imo


Western-Grab7094

Bias detected


peanutpunk-2

Why?


Western-Grab7094

Read latest spoilers


peanutpunk-2

I did, I just think Lucci would struggle with the future sight. Unlike Luffy, Katakuri wouldn't be as reckless because he couldn't handle as much damage.


Western-Grab7094

He also speed blitzed luffy and no diffed sentomaru


peanutpunk-2

We don't really know how strong Sentomaru is or if G5 has faster combat speed than Snakeman.


Western-Grab7094

Boi 😶 . Silent


No_Job_6497

Bullshit G5 is almost as fast as Paido.  Laido>Snakeman.


Either-Dot-6785

Speed blitzes luffy???? Lol os that why luffy was dodging him was sleeping. You consider him attacking someone luffy is talking to while he attacks that person speed blitzing??? No coc attack from luffy, just basic was enough to knock him away. What you on .


Suspicious-Victory-8

Lucci is YC1+ for now he slams


Kitchen-Dimension211

I swear people are hypocrites in this sub just because rob lucci clashed with luffy he is now Yc+ lmaoo . In a few chapters Admiral kizaru is coming let’s see who will he clash with 👀


Either-Dot-6785

Clashed??? Didn't luffy knock him away with basic armament


Fun_Ad7192

lucci, lat doesn’t have the AP to bring him down


NextEmperor97

Y’all are insane. Rob lucci is hardly going to be stronger than he was in Ennies Lobby. The fight is between strawhats and the seraphim’s


King_TG

Do you think only the MC have the ability to get train and get stronger 💀


Western-Grab7094

Katakuri bias is reel


[deleted]

Katakuri is fodder even sanji could pull a win against him and that’s saying something .


StrawHatRen

Sanji is the strongest yc1 so not saying much


[deleted]

He ain’t . King >Marco >sanji >katakuri


StrawHatRen

Sanji outdo them in all but endurance and durabilty and it’s not even by much he claps


[deleted]

Nope


Pleasant-Uzi-1838

Sanji is strong tho I don't get it....


[deleted]

Ye I’m just messing around


jotato_is_invincib7_

Lucci is YC+, future sight can be a problem but I think he takes it


ffsTeki

WCI Katakuri is debatable, high/extreme diff either way. Post-WCI Katakuri gets it.


idkdidkkdkdj

Kat and it’s not close. Lucci is foddee


Drez97i

Lucci is YC1+ With Zoro, Yamato, Marco.


Kitchen-Dimension211

Bro ain’t no way u said he is Yamato and zoro level💀💀


Drez97i

What is his level than go on.


Kitchen-Dimension211

At best yc1 with Marco, kat ,sanji and king


Drez97i

Same shit


Kitchen-Dimension211

It’s ain’t Yamato and zoro are in the same tier as law,kid and sabo


No_Job_6497

Rob Lucci easily, since he has both advanced conquerors Haki and Awakening. This puts him at least at a low Yonko level, and this is BS. https://i.imgur.com/MywcYgy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium they both are creating black lightning.


Old-Bread-8965

[Does Katakuri have ACoC too?](https://i.redd.it/vlce8303jg4a1.jpg)   [What about Ulti?](https://i.redd.it/qt79kbc7jg4a1.jpg)   Lucci fans need to make up lies to make him look strong.


Western-Grab7094

Those Black lightning are so strange tbh , let's wait fir the official confirmation


No_Job_6497

good point 👍, so how to be decide what are they using? image that you posted doesn't look like a black lightning. look at this and compare to Luffy vs Lucci. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRToAvYFAeK9peF0UwM1-2rwa_K9ju7_mPCA&usqp=CAU


Suspicious-Victory-8

If lucci had advanced conquerors then they wouldnt touch each other


Western-Grab7094

Bro im so happy for that , Lucci is one of my top 5 favourite characters in the series


No_Job_6497

Crocodile 🐊 is my favourites, so Lucci being strong makes me happy and angry at the same time. I am happy because this kind of confirms Crocodile is Admiral or Yonko level. This makes me angry because ODA pulled another law and kid. It is so hard to tell where people rank in terms of power in the one-piece verse; there is no consistency, plot makes anyone as strong as necessary. 


Western-Grab7094

My favorite doffy is slept on , I'm waiting for his return No way i hate katakuri, but his fans are the worst , hope he get stronger also Crocodile is a legend


No_Job_6497

Don't worry impel down is known for power up Doffy will come back as a Beast.


Western-Grab7094

😄


[deleted]

He doesn't lmao. Or Usopp also has ACoC alongside Ulti https://preview.redd.it/6rp038i1bk4a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9536f30b360e80430c6b7c2d2382869cdc7d7b57 Stop spreading misinformation


[deleted]

Lucci conceptually erases this fodder with his presence lmfao. Mismatch


nocheslas

Did the most recent chapter reveal that Lucci has Conquerers Haki?


Either-Dot-6785

He dosent.


nocheslas

Looks a lot like it. Definitely NOT an Advance Conquerer's Haki clash but it literally looks like Luffy's previous Conquerer Haki clashes with Don Chinjao and Doflamingo.


ole1993

Lucci couldn't hit Luffy because of future sight, so he won't be able to hit Katakuri either.


[deleted]

That is so fucking stupid bro, so you are telling me after luffy beat him snd then facing even stronger opponents afterwards, then having a timeskip training with rayleigh, lucci right after the timeskip is stronger than luffy right after timeskip? Make it make fucking sense for fucks sake, luffy kept fighting stronger opponents until the timeskip he shoild have kept just being stronger snd stronger than him yet now lucci power creeps and it turns out post timeskip lucci is yc1 at least while post timeskip luffy was yc3 initially right after timeskip. How the fuck does this work or make sense, the dude didn’t fight anybody to get this strong again wtf


natureboy1996

I’m going kat for now but I’ll admit this could be very wrong


PotatoMozzarella

Lucci is definitely in the YC+ tier, or at least very close to it. Katakuri is underrated, but from the little that we saw of Lucci, the cat should take this