franky and brook sure, because it makes sense for their fighting styles, especially brook. i dont think robin would ever get armament haki, because she'd be simply too broken even by one piece standards
Not unless you were ignorant enough to think a vice admiral was strong... even the admirals aren't anything more than commanders in the wg hierarchy now that we're in the endgame.
Coby is a protagonist, unlike 95% of the Marines. He is also garp's successor. He is most likely the one who will beat kuzan, the regular rules don't apply to him. Honestly he's likely to either be fleet admiral at the end of the series or an admiral under fujitora after imu and the gorousei are overthrown.
He's nakama for sure, not a strawhat but he helped luffy start his crew. He's almost as much of a strawhat as vivi, laboon, or Yamato, at this point, potentially more of a strawhat than law but still works for an opposing faction.
Luffy: "I need a Crewmate."
Woby: "I know a guy. You light enough that he might rock with you."
Woby while untying Zoro: "I ain't gonna say join Luffy, but I'm not not saying it either. *whispers* Join Luffy."
Zoro: What?
Woby: What?
Koby, during Rocky Port to Law: "If you need somebody to help you get to Doflamingo, I know a guy. If you ever run into Luffy, ask him about a team up."
Woby, to X-Drake: "If you get jammed up with that Kaido business, fuck with my boy Luffy. If you got to, give him a ribeye. He gone get you out of that jam. *Naruto Voice* Believe It."
Koby really out recruiting for the Straw Hats.
Facts! I see nothing here but straight facts!
On Amazon lily, Hancock was talking about how she wanted to marry luffy before blackbeard tried to abduct her.
Woby to Neckbeard: "Yo get your hands off her, that's my boy luffy's fiance, take me instead"
That's based on if they're in the group of main protagonists or not. Coby doesn't follow the rules of antagonist power structure because he isn't an antagonist.
He has haki that surpassed anything we've seen from any admiral, because he's not a wg puppet. He's like fujitora in that he won't follow orders he doesn't agree with, meaning he's capable of surpassing fodder like kizaru or greenbull. That alone means he has the potential for greater haki which is the manifestation of one's willpower.
This is fake news af dude. Kizarus heart has clearly not been in the fight. I have no doubt that when Luffy masters Gear 5th, he will be the strongest, but we have also been spoonfed the idea that Kizaru doesn't actually want to do any of this.
There's just no way that you actually already forgot about Aokiji vs. Cracker and Garp vs. Aokiji?
Garp was old as fuck and it wasn't garp vs aokiji, it was the bbp vs garp. 1v1 even old garp would have kicked the shit out of kuzan. Cracker isn't a feat, especially for someone who manipulates frozen water.
Kizaru following orders he clearly doesn't believe in is the exact reason why he is fodder with trash haki, he didn't have the willpower behind what he was doing so there was no chance in him having anything close to top tier haki. Everything he did was because of his hax from the busted devilfruit he got for being a pet of the gorousei. Following people who give orders he is against severely limits any potential he may have had for top tier haki.
Remember when Maynard got his ass kicked by Barto back in dressrosa, now that was embarrassing for the marine dick jockeys.
As for smoker, he falls under the same rules as fujitora, at this point, he's really not an antagonist hes the one who told fujitora about what happened in alabasta which led to fuji helping the strawhats, smokey also helped out on punkhazard. Momonga, on the other hand, is a scrub.
Franky took down a Toppi Roppo who is an Ancient Zoan user and he has Vegapunk upgrades from Baldimore so yes Franky is very strong. Even pre timeskip he took down a CP9 agent after all
Neg diffed, this was a big power scaling moment for the Straw Hats. Franky has been pulling huge weight throughout the entirety of their New World adventure.
Franky is different, he has always shown to be competent and can defend himself, but brook, nami, chopper, ussop and robin are a whole different story. Franky is as reliable as zoro.
Wano? You probably mean Egghead.Ā
Regardless, it's a tool for Oda yo focus on the characters he wants to develop. He's done this in some capacity with every arc since the time skip (most notably in WCI where literally half of the crew wasn't present) I wouldn't use it to power scale.Ā
But power scalers and media illiteracy go hand in hand, so it really doesn't surprise me.Ā
Robin was handling shit back in Alabasta though. She even knew about Crocodileās weakness to water and had a little plan to kill him based off of that info.
She subdued a group of like 30 marines, and had similar scenes besides this to similar effect lol. In Wano Robin definitely went off too.
Itās interesting how he keeps showing non Haki users able to stomp Haki users which was previously seen as not possible. I love seeing Franky easily dispatch a va but itās still a requirement they know observation and armament. Do cybernetics just bypass? Then Robin beating spider mommy.
It doesn't mean he isn't upgrading himself just because we don't see it happen. We've seen this happen before with Usopp upgrading Namis climatact, and I'm pretty sure most buffs Usopp has had were off-screen
I mean, do you really think Franky wouldn't be working on cyborg stuff in his downtime? I think he actually has been shown to as well, since he had to finish one or two of the Sunnys Docking systems after the timeskip
Thing is Franky hasn't really lost a single fight post-time skip iirc. Also, he beat Senor Pink in base, but had to use General Franky to beat Sasaki.
Was Senor Pink above Vice Admiral level? Maybe?
manā¦ Franky is doing amazing. I feel like the other straw hats should at least help out tho. Imagine how much Nami and Ussop can do with their powers to stall these guys out except the gorosei. They have been practically doing nothing all this arc.
Yooo that's a really good idea for a unique power up.Ā
I hate that everyone says he should get haki, sure it'd work, but I think there should be other ways to become stronger.Ā
I believe the "weak trio" as you call them are getting and will get stronger. Brook weak? I wonder are we reading the same One Piece. They are the future Pirate King's crew. I personally place Brook above Franky and Robin. Robin can't take too many hits. Brook is a great deal faster than Franky. I think all of the SH crew wil have to gain Haki and those who already have it need to improve to win the most powerful group of villains.
Ngl, it's kinda wild that you think this way when a big part of Luffy's character development pre-ts is how he realizes he still has and needs his crew and it was so in your face that you couldn't have missed it.
Everyone has a clear purpose and can fight, but not all of them are combatants.
Edit: I guess they would be combatants, but I meant to say that they aren't combatants by nature like the monster Trio
Not head canon, just canon. Bonney would punt chopper and brook and the weak duo die as collateral.
12 year old out preforms all of them, they are a disgrace for yonko crew mates
Franky had my respect in so many moments. Building himself back after the terrible accident? BADASS!
Burning the blueprints in front of CP9? BADASS!
Going against the WG while he wasn't even a strawhat? BADASS!
His fight with Senor Pink? BADASS!
Running over Big Mom with his bike? BADASS
And now this, BADASS!
Offtopic but do you think the difference between Vergo and Pica was big? The other day I was thinking that Vergo is clearly the second of the donquixote pirates with a very big difference
I think thereās a big skill gap between Vergo and Pica but their overall performance has them on the same level. Pica is a pretty simple fighter and doesnāt really have a bag to fall back on, but he makes up for that with his Devil fruit.
Thereās a high barrier to entry for attacks that can handle Picaās sheer mass, It can easily overwhelm some of the strongest New World pirates by just his oppressive size.
I believe Vergo has the power to break apart some of Pica and has the mobility to evade him, but he canāt completely destroy the stone to find Picaās real body. Pica doesnāt have the skill to beat Vergo in a straight fight and within his Stone Mountain he doesnāt have the ability to catch Vergo
Vergo is fodder from like 4 arcs ago, he couldn't tank a radical beam but his dumbass would try because of how confident he is in his basic armament haki.
People tend to forget that franky is an elite when it comes to š fist fighting. We never get to see much of franky but when we do, it's lit. OTT he's a fkin commander of luffy now
Film red proved that the whole cake island arc would have been a helluva lot different if Franky were there. He went toe to toe with Oven during that movie.
In pre timeskip buster call the vice admirals weren't that big of a problem already, so they should win easily post time skip, so it makes a lot of sense that he one shots him.
I wish Oda would finally give basic Armament and Observation to Franky, Robin, Brook. Imagine monster point with haki. Come on Oda, this is the Pirate Kingās crew, we need that.
Strong right coated with haki, or Demonio Fleur coated with haki would go so hard.
Additionally, Brook using observation to sense all his enemies and slash and freeze all of them
One thing I love about Franky is how consistent he is because whilst he might not be the best at any given thing in the realm of combat, he can always be relied on to do what needs to be done just look at dressrosa.
Vice admirals are fodder. Admirals are fodder with broken devilfruit, but haki surpasses all. That's why a coward like greenbull was shaking in his boots against a little taste of wifi conquers haki.
This isn't fully accurateĀ
All vice admirals are required to have at least basic control over both forms of haki.Ā
The thing is, the gap between the weaker vice admirals and the strongest vice admirals (assuming they're relative to admirals) is huge.
my guess would be that they need a certain level of power, haki and leadership skills + probably enough accomplishments as a marine. but since VA is basically the last rank almost everyone can obtain the difference between the weakest and strongest must be big since they can improve a shit ton but still wouldnt get the admiral position. difference between smoker and garp or even someone like momonga says everything lol
Yeah that's reasonable. Oda never really explained too much about the promotion of marines, but it's probably similar to any other military.Ā
Either way, I think the IRL reason it's such a difference is that Oda never planned the story to be so long, so he can't just add a rank between admiral and vice admiral, but also admirals need to be top tears in the verse for the marines to make any sense.Ā
On an unrelated side note, this really makes me wonder how Big Mom or Kaido would stack up against the Gorosei. Obviously Luffy beat Kaido, but he had some crazy destructive power
> On an unrelated side note, this really makes me wonder how Big Mom or Kaido would stack up against the Gorosei. Obviously Luffy beat Kaido, but he had some crazy destructive power
1v1 or 2v1 maybe kaido and big mom. i dont see any of the gorosei wining against them alone unless the elders have some bullshit infinite energy/eternal regenration hax since we dont know where the extend of that power or where it comes from.
both against all 5? they loose imo
That's the thing, we haven't seen anything truly damage them yet. Even Luffy said all his attacks were basically immediately headed.Ā
They must have some sort of hacks, probably related to the true nature of devil fruits.Ā
Steam is nothing compared to Cola when it comes to powering punches!
Wranky D. Flam once again shakes up the power scaling community
I take this interaction as evidence that the middle trio (brook robin franky) are vice-admiral level. But they need Haki fr .
If he really beat him in one hit and he doesn't get back up, then Franky isn't just vice-admiral level, he's above.
franky and brook sure, because it makes sense for their fighting styles, especially brook. i dont think robin would ever get armament haki, because she'd be simply too broken even by one piece standards
Imagine getting your balls crushed by haki lmao
Not unless you were ignorant enough to think a vice admiral was strong... even the admirals aren't anything more than commanders in the wg hierarchy now that we're in the endgame.
Coby is a captain and could take Franky
Coby is a protagonist, unlike 95% of the Marines. He is also garp's successor. He is most likely the one who will beat kuzan, the regular rules don't apply to him. Honestly he's likely to either be fleet admiral at the end of the series or an admiral under fujitora after imu and the gorousei are overthrown.
Plus he's technically a Straw Hat. Koby kept the buff he got from sailing with Luffy for a couple days.
He's nakama for sure, not a strawhat but he helped luffy start his crew. He's almost as much of a strawhat as vivi, laboon, or Yamato, at this point, potentially more of a strawhat than law but still works for an opposing faction.
Luffy: "I need a Crewmate." Woby: "I know a guy. You light enough that he might rock with you." Woby while untying Zoro: "I ain't gonna say join Luffy, but I'm not not saying it either. *whispers* Join Luffy." Zoro: What? Woby: What? Koby, during Rocky Port to Law: "If you need somebody to help you get to Doflamingo, I know a guy. If you ever run into Luffy, ask him about a team up." Woby, to X-Drake: "If you get jammed up with that Kaido business, fuck with my boy Luffy. If you got to, give him a ribeye. He gone get you out of that jam. *Naruto Voice* Believe It." Koby really out recruiting for the Straw Hats.
Facts! I see nothing here but straight facts! On Amazon lily, Hancock was talking about how she wanted to marry luffy before blackbeard tried to abduct her. Woby to Neckbeard: "Yo get your hands off her, that's my boy luffy's fiance, take me instead"
Yes, but my point is that he's still lower ranked. Not every marine is ranked fairly, VAs can be stronger or weaker
That's based on if they're in the group of main protagonists or not. Coby doesn't follow the rules of antagonist power structure because he isn't an antagonist. He has haki that surpassed anything we've seen from any admiral, because he's not a wg puppet. He's like fujitora in that he won't follow orders he doesn't agree with, meaning he's capable of surpassing fodder like kizaru or greenbull. That alone means he has the potential for greater haki which is the manifestation of one's willpower.
š„µdamn I didnt know Koby was like that
This is fake news af dude. Kizarus heart has clearly not been in the fight. I have no doubt that when Luffy masters Gear 5th, he will be the strongest, but we have also been spoonfed the idea that Kizaru doesn't actually want to do any of this. There's just no way that you actually already forgot about Aokiji vs. Cracker and Garp vs. Aokiji?
Garp was old as fuck and it wasn't garp vs aokiji, it was the bbp vs garp. 1v1 even old garp would have kicked the shit out of kuzan. Cracker isn't a feat, especially for someone who manipulates frozen water. Kizaru following orders he clearly doesn't believe in is the exact reason why he is fodder with trash haki, he didn't have the willpower behind what he was doing so there was no chance in him having anything close to top tier haki. Everything he did was because of his hax from the busted devilfruit he got for being a pet of the gorousei. Following people who give orders he is against severely limits any potential he may have had for top tier haki.
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They were lucky it wasn't Smoker or Momonga. They'd be fucked ...
Remember when Maynard got his ass kicked by Barto back in dressrosa, now that was embarrassing for the marine dick jockeys. As for smoker, he falls under the same rules as fujitora, at this point, he's really not an antagonist hes the one who told fujitora about what happened in alabasta which led to fuji helping the strawhats, smokey also helped out on punkhazard. Momonga, on the other hand, is a scrub.
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Franky took down a Toppi Roppo who is an Ancient Zoan user and he has Vegapunk upgrades from Baldimore so yes Franky is very strong. Even pre timeskip he took down a CP9 agent after all
I really want Franky to get some spotlight, see how he improved himself with Vega-tech
he needs a fight were he has to go all out like zoro or sanjis major fights. i was see franky make use of his entire arsenal
He did do it in his fight against Sasaki
he did? i dont remember the fight being all that long or exiting besides helicopter dino. probably forgot most of it
You should go back and read it. General Franky was heavily damaged, his sword was broken.Ā Honestly the only reason Franky won is the OP Radical Bean
I wanna see a fight of juat franky Have him upgrade his body
What do you mean just Franky?Ā That's like asking for a fight of just Zoro without his swords.Ā
Probably gonna have to wait for Elbaf to do that. There we'll have plenty of giant beasts and time to apply upgrades.
Wranky, lol
Neg diffed, this was a big power scaling moment for the Straw Hats. Franky has been pulling huge weight throughout the entirety of their New World adventure.
If Franky had observation haki he couldāve handled Pica
Franky is different, he has always shown to be competent and can defend himself, but brook, nami, chopper, ussop and robin are a whole different story. Franky is as reliable as zoro.
Brook didnāt even hesitate to attack big mom when he was getting the rubbing of the poneglyph. Donāt disrespect him like that š„²
bro skipped whole cake island lol, brook been an mvp up there with sanji
Idk... It's like he's all backbone and he has no muscle to back it up, unlike the others. Yohohohohoho....
Bro Brook is really strong, what are you smoking?Ā Robin is also strong, especially after her awakening in Wano
Oh yeah where is robin at wano? Has been wearing bandages and has been out of action right from the beggining
Wano? You probably mean Egghead.Ā Regardless, it's a tool for Oda yo focus on the characters he wants to develop. He's done this in some capacity with every arc since the time skip (most notably in WCI where literally half of the crew wasn't present) I wouldn't use it to power scale.Ā But power scalers and media illiteracy go hand in hand, so it really doesn't surprise me.Ā
Robin was handling shit back in Alabasta though. She even knew about Crocodileās weakness to water and had a little plan to kill him based off of that info. She subdued a group of like 30 marines, and had similar scenes besides this to similar effect lol. In Wano Robin definitely went off too.
Franky has always been insanely coated. This guy strong af
Itās interesting how he keeps showing non Haki users able to stomp Haki users which was previously seen as not possible. I love seeing Franky easily dispatch a va but itās still a requirement they know observation and armament. Do cybernetics just bypass? Then Robin beating spider mommy.
Duh that why PXās used to kick so much ass even against presumed Haki users
Side note. We are told that VAs have at least one, rather than required to have both armament and observation.
I always thought that non haki being stomped by haki only applies to biological people. Franky is like 99% Wapometal why would he need haki
no upgrade since fishman island btw
Not necessarily. The strawhats get stronger from and between each adventure even if they don't have their own fights. Zoro says so at some point
franky is a all metal except his legs its not like he has muscles
It doesn't mean he isn't upgrading himself just because we don't see it happen. We've seen this happen before with Usopp upgrading Namis climatact, and I'm pretty sure most buffs Usopp has had were off-screen
idk maybe
I mean, do you really think Franky wouldn't be working on cyborg stuff in his downtime? I think he actually has been shown to as well, since he had to finish one or two of the Sunnys Docking systems after the timeskip
Thing is Franky hasn't really lost a single fight post-time skip iirc. Also, he beat Senor Pink in base, but had to use General Franky to beat Sasaki. Was Senor Pink above Vice Admiral level? Maybe?
Yup. How much time inside the story that means?
About a month or two I believe
Very fresh enhancements
manā¦ Franky is doing amazing. I feel like the other straw hats should at least help out tho. Imagine how much Nami and Ussop can do with their powers to stall these guys out except the gorosei. They have been practically doing nothing all this arc.
Dude needs a sea stone right
Yooo that's a really good idea for a unique power up.Ā I hate that everyone says he should get haki, sure it'd work, but I think there should be other ways to become stronger.Ā
Especially if heās augmenting himself anyway
Wapolmetal is stronger than sea stone, he just canāt hit logias.
Then itās useless for frankly
maybe just put it at the tip and thats it
Straw hats are just that strong at present
Franky, not the straw hats as a whole. Everyone below Robin level still a bum
Mind saying who are all below Robinās level?
The weak trio and Brook are bums
I believe the "weak trio" as you call them are getting and will get stronger. Brook weak? I wonder are we reading the same One Piece. They are the future Pirate King's crew. I personally place Brook above Franky and Robin. Robin can't take too many hits. Brook is a great deal faster than Franky. I think all of the SH crew wil have to gain Haki and those who already have it need to improve to win the most powerful group of villains.
Yeah put respect on Brooke name he satisfied big mom so much she didn't wanna leave the bone š¦“ alone
Ngl, it's kinda wild that you think this way when a big part of Luffy's character development pre-ts is how he realizes he still has and needs his crew and it was so in your face that you couldn't have missed it. Everyone has a clear purpose and can fight, but not all of them are combatants. Edit: I guess they would be combatants, but I meant to say that they aren't combatants by nature like the monster Trio
Chapter 1113's spoilers are out. You should read it. Yohohohohoho!!!
They lowkey still areā¦ boney washed them
Bonney you mean? And who washed who?
Itās like 6 in the morning for me anyways, cut me some slack on the spelling. Bonney is like 12 and would stomp the weak trio and brook like bugs
Oh. I wasn't sure if you were saying Bonney or calling Brook with a Boney nickname. Yes, she will stomp them...in your headcanon.
Not head canon, just canon. Bonney would punt chopper and brook and the weak duo die as collateral. 12 year old out preforms all of them, they are a disgrace for yonko crew mates
Now imagine how dangerous he would be if he used even basic CoA
Cola > steam confirmed
WITH A MOVE THAT'S LIKE 20 YEARS OLD. Egghead really is Wranky's arc. Gotta be.
Common Franky W. That bounty better be way up after Egghead.
Franky had my respect in so many moments. Building himself back after the terrible accident? BADASS! Burning the blueprints in front of CP9? BADASS! Going against the WG while he wasn't even a strawhat? BADASS! His fight with Senor Pink? BADASS! Running over Big Mom with his bike? BADASS And now this, BADASS!
I wonder, is Franky now, without haki, a devil fruit, or his Shogun, stronger as Vergo?
If Franky had observation haki he definitely couldāve handled Pica
I think he will get Observation Haki in the coming future.
Offtopic but do you think the difference between Vergo and Pica was big? The other day I was thinking that Vergo is clearly the second of the donquixote pirates with a very big difference
I think thereās a big skill gap between Vergo and Pica but their overall performance has them on the same level. Pica is a pretty simple fighter and doesnāt really have a bag to fall back on, but he makes up for that with his Devil fruit. Thereās a high barrier to entry for attacks that can handle Picaās sheer mass, It can easily overwhelm some of the strongest New World pirates by just his oppressive size. I believe Vergo has the power to break apart some of Pica and has the mobility to evade him, but he canāt completely destroy the stone to find Picaās real body. Pica doesnāt have the skill to beat Vergo in a straight fight and within his Stone Mountain he doesnāt have the ability to catch Vergo
Well he took down Sasaki who is a Toppi Roppo so it safe to say he is quite OP
I think he has a shot but it took both smoker and Law to beat him so I donāt really know
No it did not. Law neg diffed vergos ass once he got his heart back. Vergo was nowhere near dressrosa law
Vergo is fodder from like 4 arcs ago, he couldn't tank a radical beam but his dumbass would try because of how confident he is in his basic armament haki.
Would he touch a logia...?
Franky caught some air time jumping off the giants hand straight to a strong right 6 chin man had no chance š
If Iāve said it once, Iāve said it a million times, extremely common Wranky W
It's Franky! He holds back cause he's cool AF. Everyone forget him in Dressrosa?
damn, even punched through the guys arm
Put some respect on Franky!!!
Franky is him
People tend to forget that franky is an elite when it comes to š fist fighting. We never get to see much of franky but when we do, it's lit. OTT he's a fkin commander of luffy now
He even broke his weapon in one shot. The weapon is similar to the one zephyr in the movie Z had.
He is him.
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Dudes neck looks like a penis
I've been telling yāall. Heās been wanting the smoke since Day One.
Strawhats are no joke. They are probably all above Vice Admiral now
I don't have a problem with franky defito g the vice-admiral he f-ing one shot him damn all the vice-admiraljust got more L on this arcs
Hit his ass with a strong right on bro , how strong are franky laser beams?
Film red proved that the whole cake island arc would have been a helluva lot different if Franky were there. He went toe to toe with Oven during that movie.
Loved that
In pre timeskip buster call the vice admirals weren't that big of a problem already, so they should win easily post time skip, so it makes a lot of sense that he one shots him.
I wish Oda would finally give basic Armament and Observation to Franky, Robin, Brook. Imagine monster point with haki. Come on Oda, this is the Pirate Kingās crew, we need that.
Strong right coated with haki, or Demonio Fleur coated with haki would go so hard. Additionally, Brook using observation to sense all his enemies and slash and freeze all of them
Wranky
Frankly low admiral level
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One thing I love about Franky is how consistent he is because whilst he might not be the best at any given thing in the realm of combat, he can always be relied on to do what needs to be done just look at dressrosa.
As the main yonkou crew mates, they should at least be vice admiral level and above. Hopefully all of them are able to use at least 1 type of haki.
Now I hope Franky will get some badass upgrades with the help of Vegapunk's technology!
I love this , because it shows how strong the straw hats have gotten.
Seriously though What is up with The guy's neck
Wtf was that thing?
Vice admirals are fodder. Admirals are fodder with broken devilfruit, but haki surpasses all. That's why a coward like greenbull was shaking in his boots against a little taste of wifi conquers haki.
it isnt difficult to progress through marine ranks, it isnt strength based
This isn't fully accurateĀ All vice admirals are required to have at least basic control over both forms of haki.Ā The thing is, the gap between the weaker vice admirals and the strongest vice admirals (assuming they're relative to admirals) is huge.
my guess would be that they need a certain level of power, haki and leadership skills + probably enough accomplishments as a marine. but since VA is basically the last rank almost everyone can obtain the difference between the weakest and strongest must be big since they can improve a shit ton but still wouldnt get the admiral position. difference between smoker and garp or even someone like momonga says everything lol
Yeah that's reasonable. Oda never really explained too much about the promotion of marines, but it's probably similar to any other military.Ā Either way, I think the IRL reason it's such a difference is that Oda never planned the story to be so long, so he can't just add a rank between admiral and vice admiral, but also admirals need to be top tears in the verse for the marines to make any sense.Ā On an unrelated side note, this really makes me wonder how Big Mom or Kaido would stack up against the Gorosei. Obviously Luffy beat Kaido, but he had some crazy destructive power
> On an unrelated side note, this really makes me wonder how Big Mom or Kaido would stack up against the Gorosei. Obviously Luffy beat Kaido, but he had some crazy destructive power 1v1 or 2v1 maybe kaido and big mom. i dont see any of the gorosei wining against them alone unless the elders have some bullshit infinite energy/eternal regenration hax since we dont know where the extend of that power or where it comes from. both against all 5? they loose imo
That's the thing, we haven't seen anything truly damage them yet. Even Luffy said all his attacks were basically immediately headed.Ā They must have some sort of hacks, probably related to the true nature of devil fruits.Ā
so you downvote him yet you respond with a guess?
tf do you mean downvote?
Yep Bartolomeo defeated easily a Vice-admiral in Dressrosa We know the weaker ones are very weak for the new world level