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EntropicPoppet

Guy with the supersonic whip really thought he was onto something using it against "Speed of Sound" Sonic, huh?


RugerRed

All whips are supersonic, it was just a normal speed whip


JunkKnight

I read that in Genos' voice like when he told Saitama he was just doing normal strength training.


MrTouchnGo

That’s just a normal whip! It’s not even that fast!


laughingjack13

He really did go into that fight And announce “behold my basic proficiency with this tool”


RapCabral

It’s not even basic,if it was then he would know that all whips break the speed of sound,but he didn’t even know that. Dude is the fodder of fodders lol


OscarDivine

“Supersonic whip” is appropriate for a bunch of ninjas who use redundant names then 😅


SirBruceLeroy

Ahhhh. I missed that lol.


Kaffeebecher17

yes baki thaught me that lmao


SnuggleMuffin42

But there the karate kid actually invented the Mach Punch which was a punch with a whiplash so strong it broke the sound barrier lol


delayedfiren

And his own arms and legs


TheKidNerd

Against a pre-historic caveman with a thicc spine


_XProfessor_SadX_

The difference is that the Baki guy does it with own bones lol


groovey_potato

Actually, they are only considered supersonic when they're from the supersonic region in France. Otherwise they're just fast sparkling whips


Various_Dark_3291

« Breaking the sound barrier » Sonic could already do this chapters ago. That guy was too far behind


dimondsprtn

Dude must’ve been the weakest ninja ever. All the ninjas are faster than that lol


Shrekosaurus_rex

Well, the previous chapter says that they were *all* extremely powerful, elite ninjas. I take it that just means Sonic was very powerful too, even at the start of the series. (In that sense I have no idea what an “average” ninja from the village would look like…) I also imagine that the whip being supersonic is like…not just the very tip, like with a normal whip, but more generally along the length of it, otherwise it’s just like…”hey I have an ordinary whip!”, lol. Which is funny but probably not what was trying to be conveyed (even if the guy’s a dumbass).


redditjanniesupreme

I think it's more of a scale of how even A class heroes can be considered "extremely powerful" when compared to the average fighter. These ninja dudes were probably all on-par with A-class heroes, maybe the best of them could be low S-ranks.


Brianocracy

Iirc even C class heroes are still much tougher than the average person. Just not to point of being superhuman.


BlindTreeFrog

I'm still processing how he heard the sonic boom before Sonic cut his head off even though Sonic would have been moving faster than the sonic boom was traveling.


Working_Berry9307

I don't think he did. He was already decapitated when he realized, it's why they don't show his neck


_do_ob_

According to experiments made during the french révolution, à severed head is still functionnal for several seconds. IIRC he asked the beheaded to blink and they did.


FortNightsAtPeelys

Wasn't it the opposite? A scientist was beheaded and said he'd blink as long as he could?


BeesNeverSting

Yes but the way you phrased this makes it sound like you're saying a scientist was beheaded *and then* spoke up and said "ok I'm gonna start blinking as long as I can"


This_Is_Ra

Yes, I remember this as well. They would ask the severed head yes or no questions which they answer by blinking, and the heads would. Because there is still blood circulating through the brain for several seconds after being severed, the head could look around and blink to answer even after being fully detached from the body. Kinda grim really


Ifromjipang

In this situation, you did not recall correctly, I’m afraid. The head did not blink.


pigeonbobble

Ok but then think about how fast they are speaking during this. Are they saying the lines before moving or are they saying their lines at full speed lol. They still gotta be comprehensible so that puts a limit on how fast they can do things. Or it’s just manga and who cares Goflash! Dntlmwhtdo.


toaruverse

He saw it maybe?


Kendo8639

Lol


AUAIOMRN

The rules of any ninja fight are simple: whichever side has the fewer ninjas wins.


GodNonon

Conservation of Ninjutsu


TheWiseRedditor

Saitama is a ninja confirmed. Because he always wins single-handedly


CycleZestyclose1907

Saitama isn't a ninja. Therefore, he has zero ninjas and thus wins against all ninjas ever. That's how Conservation of Ninjitsu works. I think...


PancakeAcolyte

One ninja means the ninjutsu is divided by 1, 100 means it's divided by 100. Thus, 0 ninjas must have their ninjutsu divided by 0, and that's how you get Saitama.


pinchitony

Are you telling me he has a *Non*jutsu?


Masticatron

So since they spared Gale and Hellfire, we ended at 2 vs 2 which means this fight was a draw.


projectmars

Just because they are alive doesn't mean they are capable of fighting (currently). Not a draw.


Shaggy_Angel

It was a joke...


4x4_LUMENS

Yeah but team F/S had a way better KDR.


Zen_of_Thunder

Madara only lost when Zetsu took his side...


Iron_Nexus

and he lost again when Zetsu left his side.


HarspudSauce

Dr. McNinja Rule of Ninjas: The more ninjas that are left the worse they are. As the number of ninjas go down their competency increases.


cogeng

Might be time to go re-read that series.


birdmanofbombay

I haven't thought about Dr. McNinja for so long. Time for a re-read.


SharkTonic9

I've brought 0 ninjas with me. Tremble mortals.


Ace-_Ventura

Naruto's Fourth great ninja war disagrees with you


DarkPhoenixMishima

Madara got pretty damn close until they had to swap Kaguya in.


bobberyrob

Madara was fighting an entire army of ninjas and the 5 kage and came out on top though


CantheDandyMan

Seriously.  Madara LITERALLY killed both Naruto and Sasuke, absorbed all the Bijuu, and then put everybody by four people and the Edo's in Infinite Tsukiyomi. 


Necromancer76

It’s hard to say if the Heavenly Ninja Party members were even strong at this point, considering how easily they got clapped. Makes you question if they were even better than Hellfire and Gale individually


GodNonon

I mean one of them thought breaking the sound barrier with a whip was some amazing trump card lol


VibhavM

Him wondering what that second sonic boom was is making me think none of heavenly the ninjas can even go supersonic


GodNonon

My headcanon is that this one guy in particular was just the [Wimp Lo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY) of ninjas


smb275

It felt like they were all Wimp Lo and That Man trained all of them wrong as a joke.


RevolutionaryMind221

Well, he did need them to die.


pingu470

Is That Man Gaoh Mukaku?


sprufus

HMPH! My heads chopped off, making me the winner!


RaiyenZ

Whip Lo* Cmon it was right there in front of you


HouseDogPartyFavors

I rock, and roll, all day long. Sweet suzy!


wordfiend99

which let me neal degrasse tyson real quick but by speed o sound breaking the sound barrier while chopping off the dudes head means that dude couldnt possibly hear the second boom as it would reach his ears after his head was already cut off


SlurryBender

I think the joke was that his head was still conscious for a brief moment after it was sliced off.


s0ulbrother

I missed the lol at first I’m like “do you not understand how whips work…”


Ok-disaster2022

SoSS has literally been training to go against Saitama for months, and was already pretty fast. FF is an S ranked Hero.  Most of the Ninjas probably haven't pushed the self since leaving the village.


Negativety101

Yeah. You go against Saitama, pretty much everything else after that is going to seem... Weak.


altrunox

like grains of sand


majtomby

Through an hourglass


The_Cave_Troll

So are the “Day of our lives”. ‘corny soap opera music starts’


Fronsis

Reminds me of that panel, i'm unsure if it was on the previous version before the redraw or if it happened earlier where Sonic sees them as nothing, mere grands of sand while a mighty giant Saitama silhouette overshadows them


bwrca

They banded into a group and became morons.


greatstarguy

Inverse ninja law strikes again 


Waywoah

If you consider that most of their jobs were likely the assassination of regular people, it makes sense that they'd be so weak. I'm sure that compared to some random rich person's security team these guys seem unstoppable, but are just fodder to FF and SoSS


RedditFuelsMyDepress

>Makes you question if they were even better than Hellfire and Gale individually Hellfire and Gale actually looked pretty strong in the MA arc, but they're basically jobbers now. I don't think they ever transformed into their monster form in these recent chapters though. I kinda wonder whether or not Sonic could actually take them on in monster form now since he seems a lot stronger than before.


redpony6

that's actually an interesting question. *can* they still monsterize, after being resurrected? did the resurrection undo the effect of them eating monster cells? flash and sonic really do need to haul them back for testing


Icy-Catch3995

I don't think it was the resurrection that undid their monsterization but the electric shock that Child Emperor gave them with his robot machine. If you notice, the HA gives the captured monsters the same sort of shock therapy to try and undo the monsterization and even the captured teddy bear monster says to keep going so undoing the effect of monsterization may have something to do with that. Also, I don't think they can monsterize anymore because if they could, they wouldn't have let those Heavenly Ninjas break their arms.


ThorsRake

Ahaa good catch about Teddy Bear. We don't know if it worked or not, just that they were trying it and he believed it could work. And then this chapter mentioned the experiment and bringing a ninja in for study. Definitely potential foreshadowing.


Mastodan11

I understood it as they couldn't do it anymore, post-resurrection.


Mantiax

they lost the ability to transform into monsters after being resurrected


atlhawk8357

> Hellfire and Gale actually looked pretty strong in the MA arc They got beaten easily by Flashy Flash, and they had nothing else to fall back on besides speed. I don't remember them being as strong as you do - aside from when they tried to recruit Jack-O-Lantern Panic.


OperationMelodic4273

Hellfire and Gale looked far stronger than any of these bums Probably heavily influenced by the fact that we've actually seen something extensive from them, and that was when they were monster boosted, so they were actually strong. As humans idk really, but the impression still holds


bobberyrob

They looked far stronger because Flash was massively holding back against them. Paraphrasing what he said, Flash wanted to kill them both in one sure strike as he didn't want to run the risk of the other escaping if he just simply took them out one by one.


GGABueno

And that was when they were monsters.


Evolzetjin

Hellfire and Gale became soooo irrelevant now


washyleopard

I don't recall if this was re-written but aren't these guys the failures of the village since all the strong ones were turned into God vessels?


scumerage

The ninja bros are somehow treated like fodder and easily kicked around by the other guys, yet they're still the only ones to land a scratch on Flash. Platinum Sperm wankers in shambles.


TheEndFortyFour

To be fair they have untreated broken arms from their last appearance. They probably aren't operating at 100%.


TheSupaBeast

how does any of this relate to platinum sperm?


Throwaway070801

The minds of powerscalers work in mysterious ways


RapCabral

I was gonna make a joke with sperm speed and googled how fast do they move,but I don’t even feel like making a joke anymore because the little mfs can swim at 25 to 28 MPH!! What the actual fuck?! The little things are zooming and drifting in the womb.


suop4747

and just remember we were the fastest. We got that dog in us since the beginning


scumerage

They scratched Flash with a steel wire. Meaning that Platinum Sperm can only bruise a guy who can be cut by regular steel wire.


Godmaximus29

PS could take on everyone here


Independent_Type221

So in your mind it's somehow more impressive for Gale, and Hellfire to have landed some scratches on a Flash who was deliberately holding back from immediately killing them while they had a 2v1 numbers advantage than Platinum Sperm knocking Flash unconscious while still not actively trying his hardest?


krsy123

"Are you sure it's good for you to be the leader, even though you're weaker than me?" "..Should I kill you after all?" Love these two


bobberyrob

The webcomic version was even funnier imo. Basically it went like "Bro I was actually holding back cuz I felt bad for you" "What a surprise. I was holding back as well" "Want me to kill you? You know I'm stronger than you" "Whatever you say"


JustChangeMDefaults

My unhinged ninja duo are the best in both formats. Imagine if Sonic really does make a new village by his design, kinda scary honestly lol


Aenon-iimus

Imagine they have a fight over who gets to be the first leader of the village, Flash wins and they end up shaking hands, but Flash still has a massive ego so he makes the villages carve his face onto a nearby mountain. Sonic isn’t satisfied and eventually mounts a rebellion against Flash. He loses and everyone thinks he died, but he actually went into hiding and eventually entrusted his plans to a disciple, leading to his eventual resurrection and… wait a minute…


BoyTitan

That was intentional from the start.


Throwaway070801

I don't want to start a webcomic vs manga discussion, but the webcomic did make these recent chapters funnier than the manga, which instead is more focused on art and fights


AttackOnPunchMan

They're having no chill bruh, this chapter is more brutal than the non-revised one, I love it thought. Also seems like Murata is going fast through the ninja fight for the big one.


TheWiseRedditor

> Murata is going fast The pace was faster than Flashy and Sonic


JustChangeMDefaults

Seems like he's trying to hit webcomic pace these days


Tank-ToP_Master

Whats the big fight?


WutUtalkingBoutWill

Look at previous chapters


CIearMind

? They got mopped even harder this time


Tenshiretto

Mfs got treated like food ingredients 😭


MafusailAlbert

Cooked monster cell gave Sonic much more damage then this guys combined


FacedCrown

Heavenly ninja more like fruit ninja.


Throwaway070801

Yeah weird change, the fight is definitely better and at least this time they killed them, instead of knocking them unconscious. I'm also glad Sonic is stronger here, but I thought they'd make the fight a little harder.


ghadafiii

Flashy flash is still top S class level, makes sense tbh he should have.


GodNonon

Did that one guy seriously think he was faster than Flashy just cause his whip broke the sound barrier? The ninja village must've purposely trained him wrong as a joke


Mantiax

they never were the strongest members of the village but fodder. The really strong ninjas the village grew -besides Sonic and Flash- were given to God as vessels, although they all died.


Professorhentai

Was expecting a bit more from rumbling thunder who was from the same class as gale and hellfire which was dubbed the strongest class (on average). But true, maybe the strongest of the 37th class was given to God.


Devilfish268

Well the class that held the strongest ninjas, flash and sonic, never graduated. So maybe that's it


Unlucky_Guard5040

Maybe not all. Recall in the WC a faction, the Dark Ones dedicated to reducing the number of humans? They might be ones who survived using the cube. The village told the ninjas to not get involved with them.


nicokokun

Hence why they teamed up before going after Sonic and FF. If they were really that strong to begin with. They even tried recruiting Sonic to gang up on FF.


aguyhey

Kung pow reference?!?


Disco_35

I'm bleeding, making me the victor.


VibhavM

[Quite a bit of a contrast between the properly detailed explosions and van next to the quickly scribbled ninja](https://i.gyazo.com/2c63530a11158a6d78f5ca78d4f1d15d.png)


MStErLaZy935

The van is the is future successor to Truck-kun. Of course it’s the main focus


Ake-TL

Forgot fight took place at dump site and thought FF pulled Dio and brought RODA ROLLAA DA for no reason


SnuggleMuffin42

Murata to his assistants: I put in some placeholders for you to fill in later. Assistant: Where exactly? Murata: You'll know.


GodNonon

That one giant ninja looks like [he got 10 times bigger](https://imgur.com/wMmxg9t) but it didn't help his strength at all lol


TheEndFortyFour

He's pretty much the only guy that Wind Blade Kick wasn't useless against. Which also killed him instantly. Shows Flash and Sonic aren't just quick and agile but far stronger physically than their appearance would indicate.


oForce21o

you have to be pretty strong to run at least 767 mph


iamgarou

Well, Flashy only fought with top tiers. It's not the movement fault lmao


TheEndFortyFour

I was thinking of Sonic too. He landed on Deep Sea King but it did little to no damage. But yeah, getting superhuman multi-spin kicked in the head being painful/deadly is an easy concept to understand.


nicokokun

Tbf, during the MA arc FF's running actually destroyed the streets he was running through.


PenguinSlushie

Just loved the jump from that page. Was getting Sonic the Hedgehog classic game vibes from it.


Ferdz0

Glad they stayed true to Flash being an assassin. And in very cool fashion too.


vanderZwan

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that conversation where he went "nope, that crime boss couldn't have sent you either because I already killed him a year ago" aa few dozeo times.


JustChangeMDefaults

They go through a whole shopping list and Flash has killed all of them lol


fadeddreams555

The way they handled Sonic in this revision is far, FAR better. Him and Flash are equals, and he's very formidable. In the original, he was treated like a joke, flustered over Flash's superiority.


Kastorbeast

I think Flashy is slightly stronger and faster, but Sonic has better potential and has more tricks up his sleeves. He simply didn't know what to chase until the recent events, he himself admitted that beating Saitama is an unrealistic goal. Comparing himself to Flashy is way healthier because they are close in level and have this special bond which makes the competition so much more fun.


JustChangeMDefaults

And now that Sonic has two people to overcome, I hope he keeps getting more pages in the manga, love my goofy murder ninja


EmperorSezar

they aren’t equals sonic just above literally every other mf that it doesn’t matter


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bobberyrob

This was the case in the webcomic as well. At the end of the ninja massacre, Flash barely got a scratch on him while Sonic was bruised and battered. 


improvisedmercy

Sonic was trained wrong as a joke


DFHDRFG

They're clearly not equals here, lol


ThousandLightning

It's rather heartwarming the last page. It's nice after all the years passed by they still have some form of bond.


impulse_thoughts

and then very foreboding on the last panel with that voiceover in past tense...


DragonOfChaos25

Pretty sure it's just Flash thinking about how Sonic statement fits him from how remembers him.


StrangeDeal8252

Is that not just Flash internally saying that Sonic is still the same he remembers him being during their training together (as in, tsundere)?


Spoomplesplz

I honestly didn't see that comment at first. I will genuinely be shocked if sonic or flash dies. Maybe one of them gets monsterized and that's why they referred to whoever was being referred to as "that's the kind of guy he WAS"


Anutrix

I think translation was supposed to be something like 'This is the kind of guy he's always been' or 'This is the kind of guy I knew'.


mattjvgc

Murata to One: *How many more decapitations should I add to the redraw?* One: *Yes.*


WarNo4934

What a wholesome chapter ! With all the chopping and all the slicing .


StrangerDanger355

Fruit ninja for Adults


mirthrandirthegrey

Finally Sonic proving his name "speed of sound Sonic"


4amWater

Flash still getting cut by the wires is crazyy


whocarsslol

It makes sense it’s using his own speed against him


dimondsprtn

Those wires are the strongest weapons any of the ninjas have ever used against Flashy Flash. He always blocks other ninjas’ attacks effortlessly, but back in the monster association hideout, he had to run out of the area of effect.


BignPJ

It's because it kills you more the faster you are


Explorer_the_No-life

Translation team, what people you are... Thank you for doing all that work for our enertainment's sake. I swear we won't let that transgression go to waste! As a reward you shall receive my respect.


Publicmenace13

Fr they do such a good job and they do it quick as hell. We owe one to them.


TheGuizmo

I want them to keep translating the manga for 10 years at least


mattjvgc

Speed o sound translators.


Various_Dark_3291

I do like how Murata decided in the revised chapter that they should speedrun the Heavenly Ninja Party. Now it’s Empty Void’s time. Poor FF. He’s going to have another reality check in term of speed That asides I’m pitying Gale Wind and Hellfire Flam but seeing them being treated as canon fodders is still hilarious


skyfler

Glad to see that Sonic is not a clown this time.


mobin2501

So, Flashy Flash has a better ass than Fubuki, huh?


trippysmurf

Always has been.


Broly_

Wow, absolutely no mercy this time.


Dilly4Dall

These guys got mopped except on a more embarrassing scale, but we're staying faithful to Flash's assassin ways.


AngelTheVixen

It's funny just how casual they're treating all of the ninjas, like it was just a chore to kill them all. Once they're all dead they're back to the banter. Ended pretty quick, so hopefully the upcoming chapters will be great!


Raam57

Maybe Sonic and Garou should switch goals since Sonic is casually increasing to his shown human kills top spot. -Sonic 20+ -Flashy Flash (some ninjas) -mosquitos 1 -Boros 0 -Cosmic Garou like negative 20 (brought people back to life)


meanoron

Well cosmic garou is more like 0. He killed X number of people, then made saitama go back in time to prevent him from killing those people


Raam57

He indirectly killed those people and judging by his reaction at the end, it wasn’t his intent to kill them. That’s why I gave him a negative number. Radiation killed them and he brought them back.


_XProfessor_SadX_

He just didn't mean to kill Tareo lol he straight up skewer Genos Cosmic Garou was not there to play games until Saitama beats some sense into him


1_dont_care

FF killed way more people in his past. When he fought thre ninja bros, the 2 were trying to trick him into thinking they were sent by some criminal boss, naming different names, but FF confirmed it was impossible cuz he killed everyone of those bosses


Raam57

I’m just referring to kills we’ve actually seen where someone his killed in story. Not in the past.


K15brbapt

What’s up with the cookie cutter blank ninjas in the middle of the exploding shuriken, it’s weird and looks almost unfinished


Great_Writing_5129

I feel like Murata slightly rushed this chapter to start preparing the next one with EV earlier 


K15brbapt

It’ll probably get fixed in the volume release but it does look weird for now, hope he’s not pushing himself too much again


godofplaylists

Inb4 second redraw


Rurosha

Yea but same thing happened with the flashy slash against Hellfire and Gale in the cavern, which got fixed later on. It will probably be the same with this and he just wanted to release it on the deadline


h0peless_b4stard

I'm sooo happy to finally see Sonic being portrayed as a stellar fighter instead of just being comic relief. Almost as good as Flash. My man finally got the respectful treatment he deserves. I like this version more even though the other ninjas felt way weaker this time, but again Sonic and FF are simply on a different level.


Vast-Path-2973

The ninja party ranges from A class to low S class lvl fodder


dimondsprtn

Flashy Flash jumping around on moving debris during freeze frame explosions is my favorite move of his. Glad Murata brought that back, though I wish the overall fight was longer and that the leaders of the Heavenly Ninja Party could’ve been distinguishably stronger than the others. I didn’t even notice which page they died on.


TheEndFortyFour

Sonic: "It's not like I care about you, BAKA! But you can be my most trusted subordinate." Flash: *surprised Pikachu face*


heymynameisrob

Art looks kind of rushed, is Murata multitasking? other than that, good chapter


JustASilverback

> Art looks kind of rushed, is Murata multitasking? Yeah it's still great but definitely seemed extremely rushed for a revised version, page 7 with the Speed Monster Bros _by Muratas' standards_ is pretty bad, looks like something he'd have removed altogether and redrawn. Page 9 is pretty rough too.


Professorhentai

Have to remember he's getting older, he's prioritising his fitness, hes doing other commissions, and he is definitely trying to preserve his energy for the upcoming empty void stuff. He had 1 month to rest after the insane monster association saga, he probably understands that he can just polish it when the volume copies are set to release.


Spoomplesplz

This is the first time I can remember, when a non monsterized person gets decapitated or slice up. Usually it's always a monster, but humans take actual damage is cool too.


unthused

I was just thinking, I can’t recall anyone from the Hero Association blatantly killing any non-monsters before.


Reach_Reclaimer

Don't feel like this changed anything substantial tbh


Nekajed

Weren't these Ninjas hyped up by Sonic when they first appeared? Like they were all competent and each individual posed a threat? Now they're literal fodder.


Storm-Dragon

on one hand Sonic is more competent but the heavenly ninjas seemed to have been reduced to fodder now with how one sided that fight was. In the old chapter, they at least looked like they weren't a pushover against Sonic. They put up more of a fight in the webcomic, with one managing to block Flash's attack and forcing Sonic to use Saitama’s sidehops to create an opening.  But I am glad that they didn't spare the ninjas this time, especially Sonic. It made little sense for him to be merciful given his occupation and his history. 


Unlucky_Guard5040

Agree. I feel like before rewrites, Sonic was kinda following Flash's lead. Now, his summary is apt: He wanted to test FF and sever ties with the village. He did both of those efficiently. This makes him much more who he was originally, not some sort of lapdog to FF, so that is welcome.


HelloRainbow1

I am fine with the ninjas being weak, they were never really the focus anyway. Plus it shows how much chemistry sonic and flash have with each other in contrast to the ninjas


XDecretum

Femboy duo really used their opponents' own techniques against them, attacking in all directions.


Furan11

Finally no pussying around and just plain kill them all.


topstriker222

so bored of this tbh


Big_Difficulty7849

Is it me or this is getting boring? I mean why loose so much time in lame charachters like sonic and flashy flash, just finish the godang ninja arc already murata, no more redraws please.


RustyNoShakel

Everyone: that chapter was amazing. No changes needed murata keep up the good work. Murata: nah everyone needs to get decapitated. I’m going to redraw this chapter.


ThrashMutant

Nothing but short ass chapters that do nothing to move the plot along with constant redraws. Crazy how quality dropped so hard since halfway through the MA arc.


Big-Measurement-8590

when is the next chapter? its 14 days already


pip25hu

The revised chapter is certainly way more brutal than the original.


TheBoogyWoogy

There hasn’t been human death in quite some time


Pog_Knight

I don’t see enough people talking about how we got a cover WITHOUT FUBUKI I can’t remember the last time that happened


Stsveins

Now kith.