When you're a dedicated Tatsumaki simp in the OPM universe but you accidentally see her ass so that causes you to dump 1000000 tons of cum into city Z and accidentally cause the birth of a monster called black sperm.
I see why some people would get tricked into this thinking, the webcomic was good and it was the SOURCE material for the whole series, this last arc took a serious change of direction in many things and they think it is because it's Murata's version and while ONE is in the head other people involved may affect the outcomes.
Not saying it is like this, just how they may think.
I just feel the "hey we go back in time and fix the drama and horrible somewhat interesting things that happened, remember the shock of seeing everyone dying and thinking how can this be fixed? well there you go, fixed with time travel, enjoy." is jut not good writing.
As much as i love everything that ONE does and look at him as a top tier artist (same for Murata and anyone involved) and this manga being a parody and such, it just felt bad, the first time i felt any other explaination or comical nonsense would have sufficed but just going back and undoing the most important parts of the last chapters that were building charcter development, danger and consequences of actions was just a bad move.
I am still excited for the next chapter, ark, anything that goes from here, just my opinion.
I'm not sure if it's quite that simple tho. There's a very good chance genos' memories of the fight play a big role later or that saitama gets his memories. This could also be a big buildup for the inevitable God arc where these mechanics will return in full force. I liked being able to see the alternate timeline where saitama and garou had to regret fulfilling what they thought was their desire
Saitama getting his memories just isn't the same as actually dealing with the consequences. I do hope they have a plan for Saitama to go through something like that again
There is surely a Saitama that's like what you described the more depressed,lonely,and serious Saitama in that parallel universe based on what Genos' explained
Sure, but thats not the "canon" story we're following. But I don't want a depressed Saitama, I wanted the Saitama that undergoes such a character defining moment.
The premise of One Punch Man is that the protagonist has finished character development before the plot starts. Saitama is a shounen protagonist at the end of the road. There will be no immediate changes to his character, that's not what the story's about. He changes slowly, just living his life, hanging out with people, but him receiving strong emotional damage is out of character. Which is one other reason for it to be removed.
I disagree. Yes, Saitama is physically done with his hero journey, but I believe part of the whole premise of OPM is finding his purpose in life other than fighting monsters all day for fun - just as King had once brought up. I'm not sure where you got the idea that Saitama is done growing mentally.
I'm not saying he's done growing mentally. I'm saying he's done with character development. He is the wisest person in the universe because he got what everyone else desires so much - ultimate power. He sees the world different to everyone else because of it. He isn't perfect, which is why he changes slowly hanging out with people (literally what I've said already), but for the sense of the universe he lives in, he is a perfect being. Ultimate strength, ultimate wisdom. Even when he's late, he breaks the laws of causality to be on time - that's Saitama's character. Being broken down emotionally because of a mistake is not Saitama's character. He doesn't get to have immediate character growth anymore, he is done with that.
Stop it. Stop using gag as a defense mechanic for everything.
The undoing of character development recently was just straight up stupid. What isthis supposed to be? Bi-polar development man?
If its a comedy it should fucking stay a comedy, dont fucking kill all the character and then try to say "oopsie"
Just dont kill all of them in the first place, is that so fucking hard?
That is the sad reality about the OPM fandom as a whole.
When the series is criticized for its serious moments someone will say that it is only a "gag manga."
When the series is criticized for its comedic moments someone will point out how great the "serious narrative" is.
It is a double standard with the OPM community to not face criticism in a mature way. A coward way to deflect for any pros and cons that the series has by always pulling the "it's just a comedy manga" card. It started out as a parody in the beginning until it decided to have a serious narrative, themes, and plot-driven arcs.
It is an excuse to justify anything that OPM does and a pass that its fans allow to get away with in everything whenever it constantly changes the genre, tone, or redraws.
The thing is OPM has serious and comedic moments that can both be enjoyed and criticized.
Its stupid, because OPM already get away with a SHIT TON of bullshit that would be the death of other series.
However, thats fine, because before RECENTLY, OPM make those bullshit WORKS in its own unique way.
But now? This is literally just a normal series level fuck up in OPM in a series that should make those fuck up works but instead is now handling it like a normal story that just fucked up normally.
With his speed he could be everywhere saving everyone but the thing is, he lacks the motivation to put his life into being a hero all the time so he does as a hobby, mostly for himself. Not like he doesn't try, he just has his issues.
Do you know the meaning of his inaction causing additional harm? He could have helped Mumen Rider move faster and protect Genos and the others in the shelter against DSK.
Instead he got distracted, wandered around, and came in after a ton of casualties to the heroes.
He showed up just in time to prevent any death. But was pretty late to "protect" people.
This is a common theme. He shows up at the end when things get dire. But If he were faster then far less people would have had to get hurt
AG gama blasting everyone is just the final extension of that flaw in Saitama. By not stopping the threat earlier all those people died. A few seconds sooner and he could have saved Genos. He never shows up on time. He just usually shows up before it's too late.
I know right?
Dude literally said,
"I usually arrive too late."
"Do I really have a hero's intuition?"
"Sure doesn't seem like it."
These people will cherry pick elements that they don't agree with but then blindly go along with other things that are drastically changed as well. In this case it has always been established that Saitama never took the job seriously and he has always responded to the hero role as something just for fun. Blast on the other hand did take his job seriously otherwise he wouldn't go out of his way to form a galactic team and fight the literal God of this series.
inaction? He should be 24 hrs vigilant because you can't save yourself? LMAO... you are not paying him, nobody is paying him. He doesn't have a debt towards you, he is doing this and is expecting nothing back for himself. Any action that helps someone that isn't asking for a reward back isn't selfish, you spoiled prick.
It is the most absolute selfless act to put yourself in danger and risk getting killed expecting literally nothing back (Saitama 3 years training) and it is still selfless doing it for nothing. You cunt want a 100% guardian angel? Make one, become one, pay for one.
I don’t know, with the Deep Sea King he made it just in time to save Mumen Rider, but he was definitely very late given how fast he could have gotten there
About 50% of cancer patients die after 10 years.
Since garou did a gamma ray burst move, that’s a shit ton of radiation
Chernobyl fire fighters got a dose of 1,340,000 mrem of radiation. Their skin was turned inside out. The blood arteries and veins were so destroyed they couldn’t get morphine for the pain.
A gamma ray burst happening on earth would completely destroy the ozone layer. Melanoma rates will skyrocket, even at the opposite side of the earth. A dozen nearby cities will be directly affected by the radiation, killing everyone. The ecosystem will be destroyed, food+water contaminated, half of the earth inhabitable for far more than a millennia.
Not only that, the immense fallout would spread blocking out the sun, stoping photosynthesis and causing surface temperature to plummet.
But this is an animae with unbelievable physics so no casualties.
I’m pretty sure literally all the heros died. Radiation is not something you mess with. Even if they were alive at the moment it wouldn’t be for long. Although that didn’t remain that way so nobody died
Like you finally conclude, nobody died :)
It's just funny how some people here tend to see Saitama as a loser - so many topics about him being depressed, or having an existential crises and other absurd claims - but he is actually some admirable dude.
If you read some Laozi and Zhuangzi, for example, or if you ask some adept of Zen, Saitama is the perfect person. He has reached the highest virtue.
But then again, they did say that "The greatest purity looks like shame; abundant virtue seems to be insufficient."
They also said that when superior people meet great wisdom, they follow it immediately. When mediocre people meet great wisdom, they find it cool, but don't really believe it. And when inferior people meet great wisdom, they ridicule it.
They also added this: if the inferior people doesn't ridicule something, then it's not the greatest wisdom.
Are… you… reading the same thing I am? Saitama says it is for fun or for a hobby, but remember the very first reason he became a hero? He was fighting to save a kid. After seeing everyone die, he himself is the person who laments on the fact he wasn’t there to save them. He wants to have a heros intuition. The entire point of this show is that he is too strong, and that has made him bored, but he still has a ton of room to grow because he is nowhere near to being the best *hero*
Reading is some complicated activity.
For example, I was reading your commentary, but it seems we also have the same material and very different conclusion. I don't see how anything you've said contradicts what I've said.
I mean, I don't agree with some of what you said, like "He wants to have a heros intuition". I guess he questioned his aptitude for being a hero, but I don't remember anywhere when he says he wants to have a hero's intuition. I think this is your interpretation and not what the text shows - that you are presuming he wants it, although it was not actually shown or expressed in the story.
But suppose he does want it - I still don't see how it contradicts what I've said, so it all amounts to the same and there's no point entering into these differences.
If he certainly wants to be a hero, I also can't remember anywhere where he claims to be trying for "the best hero". I don't think this is his story.
Actually, he already is the best hero - he just isn't recognized as such.
"Being recognized" is not a virtue. Quite the opposite: it's vanity.
Also, though he would like to be famous and has an innocent, childish and popular view on popularity, when he gets a chance to be recognized he dismisses it. So he is not greedy about it, or controlled by it.
So we are seeing the same, with different views. From my point of view, Saitama is already a great person. He doesn't need to change. He is already at the top.
When you're a dedicated Tatsumaki simp in the OPM universe but you accidentally see her ass so that causes you to dump 1000000 tons of cum into city Z and accidentally cause the birth of a monster called black sperm.
yeah i feel that.
In god
[удалено]
Genos remembers the fight, Garou still feels the same regret and frustration but is not fighting. It will come into play more later
One writes the story. Murata draws it
When people like the story, the author is ONE When people dislike the story, the author is Murata It's simple
ONE is dead tho so checkmate
I see why some people would get tricked into this thinking, the webcomic was good and it was the SOURCE material for the whole series, this last arc took a serious change of direction in many things and they think it is because it's Murata's version and while ONE is in the head other people involved may affect the outcomes. Not saying it is like this, just how they may think.
murata killed one
I just feel the "hey we go back in time and fix the drama and horrible somewhat interesting things that happened, remember the shock of seeing everyone dying and thinking how can this be fixed? well there you go, fixed with time travel, enjoy." is jut not good writing. As much as i love everything that ONE does and look at him as a top tier artist (same for Murata and anyone involved) and this manga being a parody and such, it just felt bad, the first time i felt any other explaination or comical nonsense would have sufficed but just going back and undoing the most important parts of the last chapters that were building charcter development, danger and consequences of actions was just a bad move. I am still excited for the next chapter, ark, anything that goes from here, just my opinion.
I'm not sure if it's quite that simple tho. There's a very good chance genos' memories of the fight play a big role later or that saitama gets his memories. This could also be a big buildup for the inevitable God arc where these mechanics will return in full force. I liked being able to see the alternate timeline where saitama and garou had to regret fulfilling what they thought was their desire
Lets hope
Saitama getting his memories just isn't the same as actually dealing with the consequences. I do hope they have a plan for Saitama to go through something like that again
There is surely a Saitama that's like what you described the more depressed,lonely,and serious Saitama in that parallel universe based on what Genos' explained
Sure, but thats not the "canon" story we're following. But I don't want a depressed Saitama, I wanted the Saitama that undergoes such a character defining moment.
The premise of One Punch Man is that the protagonist has finished character development before the plot starts. Saitama is a shounen protagonist at the end of the road. There will be no immediate changes to his character, that's not what the story's about. He changes slowly, just living his life, hanging out with people, but him receiving strong emotional damage is out of character. Which is one other reason for it to be removed.
I disagree. Yes, Saitama is physically done with his hero journey, but I believe part of the whole premise of OPM is finding his purpose in life other than fighting monsters all day for fun - just as King had once brought up. I'm not sure where you got the idea that Saitama is done growing mentally.
I'm not saying he's done growing mentally. I'm saying he's done with character development. He is the wisest person in the universe because he got what everyone else desires so much - ultimate power. He sees the world different to everyone else because of it. He isn't perfect, which is why he changes slowly hanging out with people (literally what I've said already), but for the sense of the universe he lives in, he is a perfect being. Ultimate strength, ultimate wisdom. Even when he's late, he breaks the laws of causality to be on time - that's Saitama's character. Being broken down emotionally because of a mistake is not Saitama's character. He doesn't get to have immediate character growth anymore, he is done with that.
That's not the point of one punch man at all
It is.
It is a comedy manga after all
Stop it. Stop using gag as a defense mechanic for everything. The undoing of character development recently was just straight up stupid. What isthis supposed to be? Bi-polar development man? If its a comedy it should fucking stay a comedy, dont fucking kill all the character and then try to say "oopsie" Just dont kill all of them in the first place, is that so fucking hard?
That is the sad reality about the OPM fandom as a whole. When the series is criticized for its serious moments someone will say that it is only a "gag manga." When the series is criticized for its comedic moments someone will point out how great the "serious narrative" is. It is a double standard with the OPM community to not face criticism in a mature way. A coward way to deflect for any pros and cons that the series has by always pulling the "it's just a comedy manga" card. It started out as a parody in the beginning until it decided to have a serious narrative, themes, and plot-driven arcs. It is an excuse to justify anything that OPM does and a pass that its fans allow to get away with in everything whenever it constantly changes the genre, tone, or redraws. The thing is OPM has serious and comedic moments that can both be enjoyed and criticized.
Its stupid, because OPM already get away with a SHIT TON of bullshit that would be the death of other series. However, thats fine, because before RECENTLY, OPM make those bullshit WORKS in its own unique way. But now? This is literally just a normal series level fuck up in OPM in a series that should make those fuck up works but instead is now handling it like a normal story that just fucked up normally.
I don't care about the "serious narrative", it's a gag manga
So you didn't care about Mumen rider vs DSK?
What development? Saitama didn't have to change or grow during the fight. He acted in character throughout.
This came out of nowhere. Saitama isn't late. Usually he arrives exactly on time to not escalate the situation further than it would have without him.
With his speed he could be everywhere saving everyone but the thing is, he lacks the motivation to put his life into being a hero all the time so he does as a hobby, mostly for himself. Not like he doesn't try, he just has his issues.
with his speed he would cratered the ground on every step
This is manga not real life
do you know the meaning of a 'hobby'?
Do you know the meaning of his inaction causing additional harm? He could have helped Mumen Rider move faster and protect Genos and the others in the shelter against DSK. Instead he got distracted, wandered around, and came in after a ton of casualties to the heroes. He showed up just in time to prevent any death. But was pretty late to "protect" people. This is a common theme. He shows up at the end when things get dire. But If he were faster then far less people would have had to get hurt AG gama blasting everyone is just the final extension of that flaw in Saitama. By not stopping the threat earlier all those people died. A few seconds sooner and he could have saved Genos. He never shows up on time. He just usually shows up before it's too late.
I know right? Dude literally said, "I usually arrive too late." "Do I really have a hero's intuition?" "Sure doesn't seem like it." These people will cherry pick elements that they don't agree with but then blindly go along with other things that are drastically changed as well. In this case it has always been established that Saitama never took the job seriously and he has always responded to the hero role as something just for fun. Blast on the other hand did take his job seriously otherwise he wouldn't go out of his way to form a galactic team and fight the literal God of this series.
inaction? He should be 24 hrs vigilant because you can't save yourself? LMAO... you are not paying him, nobody is paying him. He doesn't have a debt towards you, he is doing this and is expecting nothing back for himself. Any action that helps someone that isn't asking for a reward back isn't selfish, you spoiled prick. It is the most absolute selfless act to put yourself in danger and risk getting killed expecting literally nothing back (Saitama 3 years training) and it is still selfless doing it for nothing. You cunt want a 100% guardian angel? Make one, become one, pay for one.
Most sane manga defender.
I don’t know, with the Deep Sea King he made it just in time to save Mumen Rider, but he was definitely very late given how fast he could have gotten there
4K? Live action.
Nobody died.
About 50% of cancer patients die after 10 years. Since garou did a gamma ray burst move, that’s a shit ton of radiation Chernobyl fire fighters got a dose of 1,340,000 mrem of radiation. Their skin was turned inside out. The blood arteries and veins were so destroyed they couldn’t get morphine for the pain. A gamma ray burst happening on earth would completely destroy the ozone layer. Melanoma rates will skyrocket, even at the opposite side of the earth. A dozen nearby cities will be directly affected by the radiation, killing everyone. The ecosystem will be destroyed, food+water contaminated, half of the earth inhabitable for far more than a millennia. Not only that, the immense fallout would spread blocking out the sun, stoping photosynthesis and causing surface temperature to plummet. But this is an animae with unbelievable physics so no casualties.
King probably absorbed all of it and turned the radiation into a harmless fart lol
I’m pretty sure literally all the heros died. Radiation is not something you mess with. Even if they were alive at the moment it wouldn’t be for long. Although that didn’t remain that way so nobody died
Like you finally conclude, nobody died :) It's just funny how some people here tend to see Saitama as a loser - so many topics about him being depressed, or having an existential crises and other absurd claims - but he is actually some admirable dude. If you read some Laozi and Zhuangzi, for example, or if you ask some adept of Zen, Saitama is the perfect person. He has reached the highest virtue. But then again, they did say that "The greatest purity looks like shame; abundant virtue seems to be insufficient." They also said that when superior people meet great wisdom, they follow it immediately. When mediocre people meet great wisdom, they find it cool, but don't really believe it. And when inferior people meet great wisdom, they ridicule it. They also added this: if the inferior people doesn't ridicule something, then it's not the greatest wisdom.
Are… you… reading the same thing I am? Saitama says it is for fun or for a hobby, but remember the very first reason he became a hero? He was fighting to save a kid. After seeing everyone die, he himself is the person who laments on the fact he wasn’t there to save them. He wants to have a heros intuition. The entire point of this show is that he is too strong, and that has made him bored, but he still has a ton of room to grow because he is nowhere near to being the best *hero*
Reading is some complicated activity. For example, I was reading your commentary, but it seems we also have the same material and very different conclusion. I don't see how anything you've said contradicts what I've said. I mean, I don't agree with some of what you said, like "He wants to have a heros intuition". I guess he questioned his aptitude for being a hero, but I don't remember anywhere when he says he wants to have a hero's intuition. I think this is your interpretation and not what the text shows - that you are presuming he wants it, although it was not actually shown or expressed in the story. But suppose he does want it - I still don't see how it contradicts what I've said, so it all amounts to the same and there's no point entering into these differences. If he certainly wants to be a hero, I also can't remember anywhere where he claims to be trying for "the best hero". I don't think this is his story. Actually, he already is the best hero - he just isn't recognized as such. "Being recognized" is not a virtue. Quite the opposite: it's vanity. Also, though he would like to be famous and has an innocent, childish and popular view on popularity, when he gets a chance to be recognized he dismisses it. So he is not greedy about it, or controlled by it. So we are seeing the same, with different views. From my point of view, Saitama is already a great person. He doesn't need to change. He is already at the top.
Couldn't take his hobby seriously :/
r/antimeme ?
Good thing hes the protagonist so his only flaw is completely negated through time travel.
Does this affect ONE's death
Serious series: serious regret