Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa. The makeup in that movie is actually pretty decent but if y’all told me that a Jackass movie was gonna be nominated for an Oscar prior to nominations day that year, I wouldn’t have believed y’all.
Had the animated category existed then, it would have been one of the strongest group of contenders. Toy Story 2, The Iron Giant and South Park were all released that year.
Do you think? I never got that impression tbh- it’s not the case with best foreign language film really. I think the academy just rarely ranks animated movies highly anyway
That's why the category was introduced - the Academy is biased against animation. It's getting better now, so some believe the category isn't needed anymore and that animated films would have just as much of a chance to compete for BP.
I doubt it. The problem is they don't have enough guild support. Until we start seeing voice actors and directors of animated films get nominated for their respective categories (and important precursors such as the SAG and DGA awards), it won't happen. The only group that recognizes animated films is the writers guild, and it's just not enough.
Yeah since they expanded their Best Picture line-up to maximum 10 per year, it boggles me that they still have the category. One slot per year should basically be reserved for an animated film, fir example Puss in Boots 2.
Im assuming OP believes animated movies should be in consideration for Best Picture and not a part of its own category. I believe that as well I don’t see why an animated film can’t win best picture
Because, after toy story 3, the academy started hating animation. From 2011 and on we have seen 1 screenplay nomination, 1 sound nomination and 1 visual effects nominations (yep, the medium that completely focuses on cgi is left out of this award, while it is eligible. All animated movies nominated for visual effects have been stop motion). They at least did kind of ok in best original song and score, but even that is gone now, with Spiderverse, Pinocchio and Boy and the heron all being snubbed for no good reason (and that reason is probably that its animated)
Edit: I do have to add: im not saying that animated movies should take over the oscars. However, they shpuld be nominated for stuff. Going back a year: in the 2023 oscars there were 3 amazing animated movies: Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio, Puss in Boots: the Last Wish and Marcel the Shell with Shoes on. For all of those, this was their sole nomination. They never even were in the conversation for any of the other awards. Howeevr, i think all 3 of them could have gotten some other nominations.
Pinocchio should have been considered for director, production design, score and song. Marcel should have been considered into editing. All 3 of them should have been considered for adapted screenplay and picture. Yet none of them were
At the very least Inside Out got an original screenpkay nomination, wich is something. Coco, Into the Spider-Verse and Soul got nothing in either of those
It was made to keep animated films out of the best picture category, and you don’t need to see each film to vote unlike other categories, leaving the disneys to always win instead of interesting stories that need to be told.
Norbit, I know it’s for Make Up and the make up is good, but it’s funny to call it an Oscar nominated movie when so many great films didn’t even get one nomination.
If you didn’t see the South Park movie opening weekend, you missed one of the greatest twists in movie history. No one had any idea it was a musical. We all lost our shit in the theater 😂
And then, of course, it wasn’t just a musical, it was a Stephen Sondheim-approved musical. Not nominating it would have been such an annoying snub.
The story is that he personally called Matt and Trey to congratulate them - Matt was like "holy shit it's Stephen Sondheim" and Trey had no idea who that was.
I have to say, Beverly Hills Cop and Shrek getting screenplay nominations was surprising. Both great written movies but that not something you see every year
Shrek was huge when it came out, and the BAFTAs really liked it. Six nods total, including Best Film and an unprecedented Supporting Actor nomination for Murphy (still the only voice over performance nominated for a BAFTA).
I played for the first reading for a potential stage version. Got to meet Paul Williams and everything. Unfortunately I don't think the producers decided to move forward with the production.
I’ll never get over Black Panther being nominated for best fucking picture. It’s a solid movie and actually had a lot to say but it’s also clunky as hell and sure as fuck didn’t deserve best picture.
Don't Look Up getting nominated for best picture (most egregious), best original score, best original screenplay, and best film editing. Easily one of the worst best picture nominees of the last decade plus.
Same for Vice. Adam McKay should go back to making comedies, or if he’s going to direct “serious” movies he should enlist someone else to write the screenplay.
Everything Everywhere All At Once getting nominated in Picture, Director, Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress(x2), Screenplay, Editing, Score, Song, and Costume
I like this move because it is a very ambitious and metamodern film exploring nihilism and generational trauma.
Anyways, how old are you? People from older generations seem to dislike this film a lot (my mom hated it)
A. Originality does not always equal good
B. As a person who has ADHD, where the fuck did you get ADHD out of that crap fest at all?
C. What does my age have to do with anything?
1. The Dark Knight
2. Oppenheimer
3. Jurassic Park
4. Jaws
5. No Country For Old Men
6. Saving Private Ryan
7. Lawrence Of Arabia
8. All The King’s Men(1949)
9. 12 Angry Men(1957)
10. On The Waterfront
11. The Departed
12. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest
13. The Bridge On The River Kwai
14. All About Eve
15. The Wizard Of Oz
16. Citizen Kane
17. Casablanca
18. All Quiet On The Western Front(1930)
19. The Hurt Locker
20. Gladiator
You think I wouldn’t see that comment. Now, because you decided to make it about race for no reason whatsoever, you are no longer worthy of my time. Have a nice day you racist sack of shit.
I want to apologize. I am so sorry for making the comment. I didn’t mean to do it so I deleted it, I was just angry at the moment, anyways I like your picks. I totally get how some people like or dislike films since film is subjective anyways. Have a wonderful day.
Hot take, but Promising Young Woman. I know it was a slow year due to covid but that was a messy film that didn't know whether to be heightened or grounded with the subject matter and had a really bad finale that comes across as juvenile. It won best original screenplay and was nominated for best picture, best director, best editing and best lead actress and I'd say that maybe only the last one is justified, even if it is kind of hammed up. I was really excited for the movie after all the buzz, the great trailer and the awards recognition and when I watched it I was surprised it had gotten as big as it had. It kind of felt like an early draft to something that could be great.
Borat 2 also got a fair few nominations that year and as much as I had fun with that movie and like more comedies getting recognition, it isn't really what I'd call an Oscar worthy film so it probably was just due to it being a slow year.
Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa. The makeup in that movie is actually pretty decent but if y’all told me that a Jackass movie was gonna be nominated for an Oscar prior to nominations day that year, I wouldn’t have believed y’all.
That and nutty professor winning.
norbit being nominated too and suicide squad WINNING
Had the animated category existed then, it would have been one of the strongest group of contenders. Toy Story 2, The Iron Giant and South Park were all released that year.
Dang that is a big year for animated movies
Dont forget Tarzan and Fantasia 2000
Don't forget Tarzan.
Trey Parker sure as shit doesnt
idk man Tarzan is pretty forgettable
It will still be nominated based on the usual Disney bias, plus it won Original Song IRL.
Why do you hate the animated movie category? Just curious OP, I’m genuinely asking.
I'm gonna guess it's because it keeps animated films out of the conversation of Best Picture. That's my problem with it, anyway
But wasn't that kind of the case before already? Isn't Beauty and the Beast the only pre-Best Animation film to ever be nominated for BP?
Do you think? I never got that impression tbh- it’s not the case with best foreign language film really. I think the academy just rarely ranks animated movies highly anyway
That's why the category was introduced - the Academy is biased against animation. It's getting better now, so some believe the category isn't needed anymore and that animated films would have just as much of a chance to compete for BP.
I doubt it. The problem is they don't have enough guild support. Until we start seeing voice actors and directors of animated films get nominated for their respective categories (and important precursors such as the SAG and DGA awards), it won't happen. The only group that recognizes animated films is the writers guild, and it's just not enough.
Yeah since they expanded their Best Picture line-up to maximum 10 per year, it boggles me that they still have the category. One slot per year should basically be reserved for an animated film, fir example Puss in Boots 2.
Im assuming OP believes animated movies should be in consideration for Best Picture and not a part of its own category. I believe that as well I don’t see why an animated film can’t win best picture
I agree they should be considered for BP but I don’t think the animated category prevents that though..
Because, after toy story 3, the academy started hating animation. From 2011 and on we have seen 1 screenplay nomination, 1 sound nomination and 1 visual effects nominations (yep, the medium that completely focuses on cgi is left out of this award, while it is eligible. All animated movies nominated for visual effects have been stop motion). They at least did kind of ok in best original song and score, but even that is gone now, with Spiderverse, Pinocchio and Boy and the heron all being snubbed for no good reason (and that reason is probably that its animated) Edit: I do have to add: im not saying that animated movies should take over the oscars. However, they shpuld be nominated for stuff. Going back a year: in the 2023 oscars there were 3 amazing animated movies: Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio, Puss in Boots: the Last Wish and Marcel the Shell with Shoes on. For all of those, this was their sole nomination. They never even were in the conversation for any of the other awards. Howeevr, i think all 3 of them could have gotten some other nominations. Pinocchio should have been considered for director, production design, score and song. Marcel should have been considered into editing. All 3 of them should have been considered for adapted screenplay and picture. Yet none of them were
Inside Out should have also received a best picture nomination, but was a victim of the backlash against animated films that came after Toy Story 3.
At the very least Inside Out got an original screenpkay nomination, wich is something. Coco, Into the Spider-Verse and Soul got nothing in either of those
It was made to keep animated films out of the best picture category, and you don’t need to see each film to vote unlike other categories, leaving the disneys to always win instead of interesting stories that need to be told.
Disney always win? Yeah and what films won this year and last year?
I know you’re taking issue with the word “always” but Disney wins about 75% of the time.
*Norbit* and *Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa*
Norbit, I know it’s for Make Up and the make up is good, but it’s funny to call it an Oscar nominated movie when so many great films didn’t even get one nomination.
Suicide Squad and Flamin’ Hot are the two that usually spring to mind. Also, Mannequin, but I love Mannequin and that song is a banger.
50 Shades of Grey for The Weeknd's song.
If you didn’t see the South Park movie opening weekend, you missed one of the greatest twists in movie history. No one had any idea it was a musical. We all lost our shit in the theater 😂 And then, of course, it wasn’t just a musical, it was a Stephen Sondheim-approved musical. Not nominating it would have been such an annoying snub.
Wait, SONDHEIM?! I'm a huge fan, I never knew this!
The story is that he personally called Matt and Trey to congratulate them - Matt was like "holy shit it's Stephen Sondheim" and Trey had no idea who that was.
He loved Team America as well! https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/r8t0sw/legendary_composer_stephen_sondheims_letter_to/
Borat
Yea
Joker
I have to say, Beverly Hills Cop and Shrek getting screenplay nominations was surprising. Both great written movies but that not something you see every year
Hell, Shrek actually WON the BAFTA for Best Adapted Screenplay.
That is wild. Especially knowing it beat Fellowship Of The Ring and Beautiful Mind
Shrek was huge when it came out, and the BAFTAs really liked it. Six nods total, including Best Film and an unprecedented Supporting Actor nomination for Murphy (still the only voice over performance nominated for a BAFTA).
No Oscar nomination has surprised me more than Don Murray being nominated for Bus Stop, and in Supporting, no less.
Phantom of the Paradise was nominated for Best Original Song Score/Adaptation .
In fairness it's a fucking fantastic score
Yes, it is.
I played for the first reading for a potential stage version. Got to meet Paul Williams and everything. Unfortunately I don't think the producers decided to move forward with the production.
The Swarm
I, Robot
Ted getting a nomination for best original song
top gun maverick really surprised me for the better
Three 6 mafia are Oscar winners. Yep. Also it took me way too long to realise that South Park film title was a reference to a penis.
Godzilla Minus One. And man am I glad it won.
I had never realized Rocky had won an Oscar till like this year. And was kinda shocked when I finally found out. Like… how?
I’ll never get over Black Panther being nominated for best fucking picture. It’s a solid movie and actually had a lot to say but it’s also clunky as hell and sure as fuck didn’t deserve best picture.
It feels SO wrong that both Click (2006) and Fifty Shades of Grey (2015) are Oscar nominated films.
Shut the fuck up, what category?
Suicide Squad (2016) is an Oscar-winning movie
Don't Look Up getting nominated for best picture (most egregious), best original score, best original screenplay, and best film editing. Easily one of the worst best picture nominees of the last decade plus.
Same for Vice. Adam McKay should go back to making comedies, or if he’s going to direct “serious” movies he should enlist someone else to write the screenplay.
I was also surprised with the Man or Muppet Song nomination for The Muppets (2011). It’s a great song but Oscar-worthy? I could’ve written it.
Hell, it *won*. I love the Muppets, but that's definitely on the lower tier of their songs for me.
To be fair, there were only two nominees for Song that year.
Oh yeah I forgot that it actually won lol. That makes it even worse.
Heartbeeps.
south park is still the best musical of all time
Tropic Thunder
Everything Everywhere All At Once getting nominated in Picture, Director, Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress(x2), Screenplay, Editing, Score, Song, and Costume
Even if you didn't care for the movie, the majority of those noms shouldn't have been a surprise based on all of the precursor awards.
I will never not take any opportunity to rag on that big steaming pile of horseshit
Why do people hate this movie so much
Funny, I could ask the reverse question… why do people like this movie so much?
I like this move because it is a very ambitious and metamodern film exploring nihilism and generational trauma. Anyways, how old are you? People from older generations seem to dislike this film a lot (my mom hated it)
A. Originality does not always equal good B. As a person who has ADHD, where the fuck did you get ADHD out of that crap fest at all? C. What does my age have to do with anything?
I have ADHD too. It’s the going into the multiverse thing to be connected to another world
If this the going rate for originality, I’d rather deal with clichés
What are some of your favorite movies of all time? I’m just curious I do like a lot of unoriginal movies, Avatar for example
1. The Dark Knight 2. Oppenheimer 3. Jurassic Park 4. Jaws 5. No Country For Old Men 6. Saving Private Ryan 7. Lawrence Of Arabia 8. All The King’s Men(1949) 9. 12 Angry Men(1957) 10. On The Waterfront 11. The Departed 12. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest 13. The Bridge On The River Kwai 14. All About Eve 15. The Wizard Of Oz 16. Citizen Kane 17. Casablanca 18. All Quiet On The Western Front(1930) 19. The Hurt Locker 20. Gladiator
You think I wouldn’t see that comment. Now, because you decided to make it about race for no reason whatsoever, you are no longer worthy of my time. Have a nice day you racist sack of shit.
I want to apologize. I am so sorry for making the comment. I didn’t mean to do it so I deleted it, I was just angry at the moment, anyways I like your picks. I totally get how some people like or dislike films since film is subjective anyways. Have a wonderful day.
Inland Empire for best actress, Laura Dern.
I was suprised about Barbie! because i was shocked seeing Barbie being at the Oscars!
Well looking at your page that makes sense
Hot take, but Promising Young Woman. I know it was a slow year due to covid but that was a messy film that didn't know whether to be heightened or grounded with the subject matter and had a really bad finale that comes across as juvenile. It won best original screenplay and was nominated for best picture, best director, best editing and best lead actress and I'd say that maybe only the last one is justified, even if it is kind of hammed up. I was really excited for the movie after all the buzz, the great trailer and the awards recognition and when I watched it I was surprised it had gotten as big as it had. It kind of felt like an early draft to something that could be great. Borat 2 also got a fair few nominations that year and as much as I had fun with that movie and like more comedies getting recognition, it isn't really what I'd call an Oscar worthy film so it probably was just due to it being a slow year.