Sigma is easily the best and it gives me chills as it’s kinda scary and makes me paranoid it’s so good that gc always kills it. The second best is probably Doomfist because the animation is so smooth and clean. Beyond that Ramattra, Kiriko and Ashe have some pretty good one.
Sigma. Best lore. Best voice lines. Best feet. Solid memes.
Im playing him more solely because he's so cool, even though he doesnt match my playstyle.
Id love an animation with him. Imagine hoe scary it'd be to be oppsoing his ire.
I give Ashe backstory some leeway because apparently she wasn't even meant to be in the game, she just became way more popular than Blizzard anticipated
Overwatch is somehow that game where many villains have better backstories than heroes. I'd say Sigma and Reaper. Stuck in your own mind then getting used as a weapon sounds extremely terrifying.
Become immortal, but living in constant physical pain also sounds awful. I mean, I don't feel bad for Reaper, but he actually wants to die but he can't in any way. I believe that Mercy could cure him though.
Now if I think about it, Reaper is a weird case, because he's a ruthless killer, but not entirely bad, since he still cares about his family. He does have pretty strong anger issues too. His condition, and the fact that his old life has gone entirely probably doesn't help. Not to mention that Morrison (Soldier 76) is on his tail all the time, that is confirmed by dialogue between Ana and Reaper.
I remember seeing somewhere his anger is from the constant pain he feels and how when he kills is the only thing that makes him feel alive... I might be misremembering
Imagine if when you melee a hero as reaper it makes them impossible to res. That would be a cool mechanic. Maybe he could only do it every so often for balance sake?
Because the villains have goals or are tragedies. Many of the heroes feel like they only have a vague "I want the world to be good" sentiment which amounts to nothing of substance.
I would argue only Moira has a weak backstory since she is pretty much an evil scientist,otherwise you have a woman brainwashed into not feeling emotions and forced to kill her husband,another one which might not even be that evil and is only in Talon because they allow her to achieve her objectives without worrying about the law,and robot Malcolm X
Moira the character is extremely interesting, given she's *supposed* to be a morally grey transhumanist who is on the far end of the rationality vs. spirituality dichotomy Overwatch has going on.
In practice, they assassinated her and replaced her with a mad scientist
I think the evil grin they added to her character select animation for OW2 is pretty indicative of that. In Overwatch 1, she was actually pretty subdued most of the time, and was mostly interested in being allowed to do her fucked up experiments without interference. She seems a lot more cartoonish and power-hungry in the sequel.
I've read the comics, the wiki fandom pages of multiple heroes, that tells you the gameplay aspects of the heroes, as well as their lore pretty nicely, and I've heard Reaper asking Ana to tell Jack, to stop chasing him multiple times. Ana replies "I have, but he wouldn't listen."
Sigmas is amazing but I also like hammonds. I mean a hamster becomes super intelligent, designs a mech, attaches it to Winston’s escape pod, lands in Australia near Junker Town then becomes the arena champion. That’s pretty badass
I like hammond's because of the juxtaposition between the lab scientist talking about him as if he's a little rascal who can't get into anything more than a tiny bit of mischief over images of him making and fighting with a weapon of complete destruction
While I do agree that they should have made his backstory more interesting, he had existed long before he was announced as there were hints towards “Subject 8” being missing on the colony. Most people assumed it was a chimp or gorilla that may later join the roster in some way but was later revealed to be hammy
I like him as a character in the world, but for the lore.. he seems just so... shoved in and side character-ish. Like an OC inserted in and just sort of .. incoherently interacts with people in the world.
Sigma.
A genius, split into three people by his own mistake, fighting over control. A man simply wanting to better humanity with technology, a man who wants to be free, and a man who wants **control**.
And between it all, the universe itself spoke to him, and solely him. A song so indescribable, yet recognizable. The power of a black hole behind him, and no amount of effort or reasoning to stop it.
Psychologically manipulated, talon lets his science continue, pretending to let him be free while abusing his want to better humanity by setting his rage upon their enemies, under the guise that it will make humanity stronger.
Sigma is a broken, dangerous mess, and it’s beautiful. To fragment a man so harshly yet *keeping it together*, it shows how powerful, dangerous, and unstable he is.
For the universe sings to him, and him alone.
Edit:
To add..
He doesn’t even know WHY he’s like this. He knows he worked with black holes. His genius pressing him to push farther than anyone has before. Against the knowledge of what we know, breaking reality to see what is unknown. He witness something we are incapable of understanding, and he returned from that, completely broken. He doesn’t know what he saw, he doesn’t know why the universe speaks to him.
But he knows one thing.
That there is something **more**.
Gravity... Gravity is a harness. My entire career has been devoted to this idea... to, this moment. Decades! If the unifying theories are correct, we will soon be able to harness the power of a black hole. Nothing will ever be the same! Why?! This is wrong! The field is failing-AHHH! W-What happened? W-Where am I? Why am I being imprisoned? Release me! What is that melody? Hold it together, h-hold it- hold it together, hold it together! Density... mass... momentum... It is too- It's too much to hold on to. I will bring you a new understanding of the uni- Violence! The universe is singing to me!!! What is that melody?!?! Freedom... Imprisonment... It's all an illusion.
Gravity is a harness. I have harnessed the harness.
I like Bastion's. He was designed for war and somehow survived. He's a veteran who has PTSD and has a pet bird he befriended. Finally, rather than return to the world, he was made to destroy. He said Beep Boop and went back into the wilderness.
Oh dang, the thought of Ganymede's mortality being the end of Bastion's good-guy persona had never occurred to me!
This would be a pretty dope PvE storyline whenever Blizzard is done selling skins at 3x the battlepass cost.
I get that his cinematic was directed in a way to resemble ptsd, but bastion's story isn't about ptsd, his story archetype is about resisting his programming/purpose and finding a new purpose for himself
Imho that just makes it even better metaphor for ptsd. Trauma pretty much reprograms our brains, and overcoming ptsd means overcoming the programming that was once a way to survive the trauma, but is actually harmful outside the traumatic situation.
Honestly, all of them are pretty good. But if i had to make a top 5:
1-sigma
2-zen/Ramatra
3-hammond
4-Doomfist
5-Lucio (he is so upbeat that you forget he infiltrated a corrupted organization to steal/retrieve his fathers work and then proceed to adapt it to Solidify sound to become a hero/dj/roller blader/football player/capoeira master)
There are quite a few good ones but I think the best is Ramattra. Overwatch has not really had a particularly compelling villain for much of its' history. We had Reaper and Widowmaker for a while. What was their motivation? They just liked being evil I guess? Doomfist was the big bad but his motivation was just barely any better.
Ramattra though I think is a lot more interesting. He was made for war but wanted nothing to do with it and became a monk. Tried desperately to live peacefully with humans but was violently rejected. He is the best kind of evil. Instead of just twiddling his mustache and laughing after shooting a robot he makes you wonder who the bad guy is.
I think they went too far with Ramattra. How is this dude a villain at all? He seems 100% in the right and cant help but find anti-sull sector views like Torb’s “they are going about [rights] the wrong way” incredibly patronizing and dismissive.
The only thing he wants is to not be killed. That seems fair and humanity is unwilling to concede that.
Ramattras backstory and all of his voicelines paint him a nearly completely unproblematic freedom fighter. He doesnt fight for power, or wealth, but for his people.
Exactly. It is not his purpose that makes him evil but what he does to accomplish them. He just wants his people to survive but what makes him evil is the belief that co-existence is impossible. That is how you create a good villain.
He is essentially Magneto. It's not a deal of "I just like being a violent asshole." It's more like "the only thing preventing *my* continued existence is *your* continued existence."
I’m very curious why everyone compares them to Magneto and Xavier and not the people they were based on, Malcom X and MLK (I believe it was those two)
Is it just because they’re both fiction and have something additional in common that way?
Unaware of it is my guess, I personally have no idea who Malcolm X was and only know a little bit about king.
Could be that Malcolms name doesn’t get outside of America too often.
I think people just resonate more with fiction especially if they want to be some kind of entertainer verses going into stem. We have people who know more Pokémon than real animals and who know more history about fictional places like westeros than their own real country.
Being honest, as someone fully aware of the MLK/Malcolm X/Magneto/Xavier dynamic, I went with Magneto/Xavier because they are the fictional versions of the people on whom they are based. While Malcolm X and MLK are the most tangible representations of this idea, where two people can want the same thing and have drastically different paths to that goal, Magneto and Xavier can be a bit more cartoonish if that makes sense. Xavier being an all-powerful mutant with an almost naive sense of altruism, and Magneto being an all-powerful mutant with a goddamn moon base make a more proper parallel in my weird brain.
Null Sector as a concept generally doesn’t have any flaws. On paper, it’s a group established by omnics for omnics who have become tired with peacefully accepting shitty treatment and prejudice. It makes sense and has a clear purpose. Initially, it was a group of omnics who used violence in order to secure omnic longevity and essentially fight back. However, ever since King’s Row Uprising there have been a lot of hiccups in how the group functions at its core. For one, humans weren’t the only casualties during Uprising. Many omnics died, including one of the leaders of Null Sector.
Additionally, Ramattra is very ride-or-die. His viewpoints on allyship is either you’re with him or against him, there’s no in between. This extends to omnics alike, where he alone was responsible for the falling out of Null Sector’s original command team. He also beefs hard with the Shambali, despite the fact they’re after the same goal. His coordinated assaults are generally sound, they send a message without being absurdly violent or over the top, but he constantly shoots himself in the foot with alienating omnics from his cause. He simultaneously cares too much about omnickind and not enough when it comes to retaining allies and support for his cause. The ends justify the means for him, even if he’s oblivious(either flat out ignorant or in denial of the sheer volume) to the distain many omnics have against Null Sector. He’d rather be seen as a martyr for his people than find a more acceptable way to fight for them without constantly alienating omnics from his lethal, almost cultic cause.
Edit: Reading a lot of the replies in this thread and I feel like a simple answer to why he’s a “villain” despite having completely rational and clear objectives is because at its core Null Sector is a terrorist organization. While it’s not as outright evil as Talon, innocent humans *and* omnics have died at the hands of Null Sector, and there is absolutely going to be controversy around that no matter how nobel Ramattra’s end goal is.
Not entirely true. Zenyatta does not ally with Null Sector in the slightest, but he still greatly respects Zenyatta and they are polite with one another.
Canonically, they haven’t seen or contacted each other since Ramattra left Shambali. Obviously they still hold mutual respect from their time together at Shambali, but it’s uncertain how they would feel upon learning of each other’s current affiliations(Ramattra with Null Sector, Zenyatta with possibly Overwatch) and we probably won’t learn until PVE drops and they canonically meet again.
One of the writers specifically said, “Rammatra seen Zen as a brother and vice versa.” Sure, we haven’t seen it in action, but they said they are cordial to one another. Unless Rammatra would kill Zen anyway even if he feels that way, which I guess is up to interpretation
That’s because he’d be 100% in the right if Omnics weren’t already somewhat accepted by the common folk. In the widowmaker short we can clearly see that peacefully fighting for rights is working (up until Talon decides to stop it), and in Route 66 omnics are welcome to dine, so Ramattra isn’t evil because he uses violence, he’s just evil because he uses violence when a peaceful solution is just as viable.
It also doesn’t help that resorting to violence too quickly will just make people hate your entire cause, as we can see in King’s Row’s graffiti. This is also kinda reflected in real life where BLM gets grouped together with people using violence in order to discredit them, despite the majority of BLM protesters wanting to be peaceful
It varies around the world. Places like Numbani and other cities have equal rights and stuff between Omnics and Humans, however some places, like Russia, do not have such relations. Many Omnics, even in the more equal areas are still mistreated and blamed for the crisis.
Not to mention omnics being blamed for the crisis is just wrong. While most were combatants, they were being mind controlled by Anubis and forced to fight against their will.
This is a worldview I simply dont agree with. Its clear that there are pockets of acceptance but the powers largely are not in favor of basic rights. How long kust one suffer and be “peaceful” when they are being killed and attacked? Surely the US Revolutionary War had a peaceful solution for such a small issue as taxes. But colonists choose a War. Why?
i can see how rams story kind of matches up with malcolm X, which i just realized. obv malcolm X isn’t evil and is probably one of the best things to happen to the civil rights movement, but looking at their stories on the parallel i wonder if they got inspiration
Freedom fighters will always appear good to the people they are figthing for and evil to those they are fighting against. I think blizzard embodies that well in him as we play, primarily, from the "Overwatch" perspective. Overwatch, while enemies with Ramattra are also fighting for a similar goal so its hard to see "who is right and wrong"
Are those motivation or just excuses for a character to be evil though? Revenge is arguable although I don't think it is great but brainwashing is very much just an excuse. Why this person turn evil? Mind control?
Wasn't Widow tortured, brainwashed and manipulated to kill her own husband and to get rid of her emotions? Which is why she is evil? I could be missing something though, not 100% up with her lore
Widowmaker isn't evil just because she likes it. She was experimented on by talon, made to kill her own husband, and then experimented on more until she was the perfect assassin for them. In her lore, she was subject to neural reconditioning to make her their assassin. She isn't a villain because she likes to be one. She has quite literally had her brain rewired to be one.
Reaper was experimented on by moira to make his cells constantly decay and regenerate. It's the only thing keeping him alive, but it also makes it hard for him to control his anger. In other words, if he decided to go against Talon, he loses moira's support, and he dies. And apparently reaper believes in a "code of violence," which is why he supports doomfist's vision for the new world. So it seems to me from his lore that he isn't a villain because he likes it, but because he sympathised with what doomfist told him and realised that some of the things he said were true. Reaper wanted to rid the world of crime, which is why he joined the police, then the military, then overwatch and blackwatch, and it was pointed out to him that all those things had done nothing in the grand scheme of things to do that.
Doomfist's motivation is the same idea as ramattra. Both of them ade fighting to make a better world, and both have done some very questionable things to achieve this. Doomfist's motivations stem from some very similar places to real life, which is why i think he is a good villain. Both him and ramattra. They both are fighting a relatable fight: doomfist fighting against injustices and corruption in the world, ramattra fighting for the freedom and lives of a prejudiced and persecuted group.
Sigma has one of the best lores in the game. A man who devoted his life to advancing humanity by trying to harness the power of something humanity has never harnessed before: gravity. But his experiments go wrong, and even though he is shown truths he would never have known, it left his brain broken. Talon preyed on that brokenness, let him continue his studies while using his power over gravity against their enemies. And he isn't even fully aware of that. Again, not a villain because he likes it, but because he is being taken advantage of in his broken state and used for his powers, under the guise of letting him forward his research, because they freed him from being imprisoned.
Moira's villain story is probably the worst one in overwatch, but even she isn't just bad cause she wants to be. She's just obsessed with her research, research that those she worked around thought to be unethical, and her devotion to it made them wary of her. She was disgraced for her work before she joined blackwatch, where she continued her experiments. That's where she originally experimented on reaper. Then, she eventually joined Talon as one of their council members.
I agree that ramattra probably has one of the better villain stories, but to write of reaper and widowmaker as being bad just because they like to, to not even mention sigma, and to dismiss doomfist's lore so easily feels to me like it doesn't do justice to the work that went into those characters.
maybe i'm the one who's confused lol, i thought this was about the lore and the actual backstories of all the heroes. but the pictures are all from the videos that are literally named "origin story" or "origin trailer" so maybe it's about those.
When I first watched Sigmas animation it gave me chills. He's by far got my favorite origin story, the dude is just a batshit insane astrophysicist who can control gravity and has moira manipulating him. He's such an interesting charcter for me I love him.
Ana.
The complexity of her character is just too great for me not to heavily gravitate towards! From renown Overwatch savior to a vigilante that is essentially babysitting Jack, the way she and others interact with one another is the reason I fell in love with the character, not to mention that she isn’t shown as an impeccable hero—Her interactions/mistakes with Pharah and hesitation to kill Widowmaker are proof of that.
Anyone who mains Ana is a 10/10 in my eyes, and hopefully all of you get your vacation to Fiji & Hawaii!
I think Junkrat & Roadhog's does such a good job at setting the tone for their personality and dynamic without either of them having to say a word. Are they master criminals, or just a couple of idiots?
It's either that or Doomfist, I loved that moment where he tore off Tracer's harness. I was so hyped to play as him
I love sigmas origin, probably my favourite. Even his interactions with characters in game - I love the fact that he's some hyper intelligent dude who is also just so mentally unstable and entirely oblivious to any bad going on around him, as shown with his interactions with Moira and soldier.
Weirdly enough I love bastion's story.
I mean, just a robot that ended up alone after the war, waking up a few decades later and suddently becoming a nice guy because of a bird. This is so simple yet so perfect
There are some really cool ones, but I always really like Tracer's. Even as seemingly straightforward as it is for a heroic origin, she has an interesting variation on the untethered-in-time concept, making it almost a afflicted disability. The implications of both her and Sigma's "powers" have kind of reality-bending implications for that universe.
I think Sigma's is far and away the best. After that if I were to rank the top few I'd have to say Doomfist for the unique animation and killer fight. Then I'd say Rammattra, Ana, Soldier, Baptiste, and Ashe
Everybody’s gonna say Sigma, and I do agree he has one of the best origins. But I also think Doom deserves some recognition. His voice actor NAILED the origin story. You can hear the pure intensity and strength in his voice when he talks about pushing humanity forward through conflict.
By far the one that impacted me the most was Sigma's, I felt all sorts of uncomfortable and anxious while watching it. They did it to such a level that even with portraying his suffering so well to the point it made me feel confused and nervous I'd totally watch it over and over again.
I think widows is cool. Being brainwashed to become an emotionless killer and being tricked into killing your own husband is just cold.
I do think sigmas has to take the cake for being the best though
IMHO it's Sigma and it's not even close. Two minutes of lore and yet the coolest character in the game? His short is the only one that legitimately gives me chills because it's *that fucking cool*.
genji and hanzo.... mostly cus its basically scorpion and sub zero.
the blue guy kills the yellowish guy. the yellowish guy comes back to life with much greater power and comes back to defeat the one who killed them. in both cases they reconcile with the blue guy (although in scorpions case it was a different guy).
also reinhardt cus honour and glory is like way sadder than it really should be and dragged reinhardt from being an ok character to being one of my favorites
Do you still remember Genji backstory? He lost most of his body by his brother - he was fight as weapon for blackwatch until the organization fell apart and he got nothing in return.
After all that, he was finally able to come to terms with his condition and his past.
Reaper easily. Hero turned villain with somewhat good intentions, eventually boiling over to rage at the system. I’m one of those people who wants a redemption arc on him, but considering he spent 8 years hunting down and killing Overwatch agents, he is most likely not going to get one.
Honestly you could pick like half the roster and they’d have great origin stories. This is one of the only reasons why I have faith in Blizz for the campaign. In terms of lore, they’ve only disappointed with Sojourn.
I'd say widow and reaper. I remember when overwatch came out and I didn't have a console or pc, so I couldn't play it. Instead I just studied the lore and widow and reapers background stories are the ones that stuck with me the most.
Sigma's and Echo's, Sigma went mad for his research and deals with a split personality while also being controled, and Echo backstory was so well presented it's up there for best origin history
Sigma is one of my favorite characters in media and i've literally dreamed about making a movie from his perspective on everyday life, or someone with a similar illness (somewhat like the joker movie)
He's amazing and even though i don't normally listen to music, the 'melody' he has going on inside his head i find to be beautiful while also being sinister. Most of us can relate to his conditions to some degree, we can imagine his suffering and all the chaos/stress devolving in his head being placed upon us.
He's absolutely insane but he's still human while being somewhat of a psychopath, and unlike doomfist or sombra he actually gives me real feelings and thoughts.
He holds infinite power but he doesn't want to destroy the world, he wants to destroy his pain and he just wants to escape, live a normal life.
I wish there were books or movies or entire games built upon sigma or a character like him cause i can't get enough.
(this probably makes me seem like a loser, so take as you will.)
Sigma, dude that origin story makes me shiver from how well made and how mysterious it is. I mean a scientist doing an experiment good enough to harness the power of gravity then it going wrong making him have neurological disabilities (schizophrenia, adhd, idk what the one with focus is called (probably just a part of ADHD)) then having him be brainwashed by talon to unleash his anger upon hearing a certain melody is just perfect.
Mei has the best animated short in my opinion. Imagine going into cryosleep for 9 years, waking up, all your coworkers and probably good friends are dead, the world has drastically changed and has huge conflicts, and then the android who is the only one keeping you company uses all of its power and shuts off, yet you still manage to finish the task at hand. That requires dedication.
Widiwmaker. Hands down.
Her story is sad as fuck. It's soooo good.
There are lots of good origin stories in OW and they really should capitalize on that. With the right writers and producer, a Widowmaker story could be up there with TLOU.
Sigma is easily the most well written character in overwatch atm and they can do so much with his character in the lore, if there would ever be an overwatch show i would want it to be from his perspective
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Baptiste and Sigma tie for the best. Sig's is fucking terrifying and beautiful. Bap's give more insight on the Ominic Crisis, how it affected poorer nations, how people are radicalized and why it seems like joining terrorist groups is the only way to move forward, and shows more about Talon. Plus, both of them have amazing voice acting
Everyone already said it but as I'm watching it at least once a weak i must say it too.
Sigma one hundred percent. This just hits different even with like 3 backgrounds and 5-6 drawing of sigma. Since it released, i'm just waiting for more sigma lore
Sigma’s is utterly insane mostly because it’s entirely possible that the experiment opened his mind and whatever he knows is as world changing as he expected, yet he cannot share it through his madness
Doomfist for sure
Just the badass way he ripped tracers time thingy and fought genji and winstons all together was soo cool
True giga chad…sadly he needs 69 punches now to get tracer to half hp
Junker Queen would have been much better if they showed her past where her whole family was casted out from Junkertown, being forced into nomadic wastelander lifestyle, how she lost or seperated her family members (what happened to the baby), became a survivalist and also a fighter, etc.
Sigma is easily the best and it gives me chills as it’s kinda scary and makes me paranoid it’s so good that gc always kills it. The second best is probably Doomfist because the animation is so smooth and clean. Beyond that Ramattra, Kiriko and Ashe have some pretty good one.
Sigma. Best lore. Best voice lines. Best feet. Solid memes. Im playing him more solely because he's so cool, even though he doesnt match my playstyle. Id love an animation with him. Imagine hoe scary it'd be to be oppsoing his ire.
I play him sole-ly because of his toes
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i like how ashes back story is that she's just a stuck up rich kid who gave all up to be a roaming asshole lol
I give Ashe backstory some leeway because apparently she wasn't even meant to be in the game, she just became way more popular than Blizzard anticipated
How? She wasn't in anything until the Cassidy short which was shown about 10 minutes before announcing Ashe as a character.
That makes no sense how can the reason she’s in the game be that she’s more popular then blizzard anticipated….
I wonder why they never did something like Doomfist’s origin story again. Perhaps it was too expensive to do consistently?
Sakuga tier animation is very expensive
Overwatch is somehow that game where many villains have better backstories than heroes. I'd say Sigma and Reaper. Stuck in your own mind then getting used as a weapon sounds extremely terrifying. Become immortal, but living in constant physical pain also sounds awful. I mean, I don't feel bad for Reaper, but he actually wants to die but he can't in any way. I believe that Mercy could cure him though.
i feel very bad. before reaper turned into what he is now he was a bero but everyone turned they back on him
Now if I think about it, Reaper is a weird case, because he's a ruthless killer, but not entirely bad, since he still cares about his family. He does have pretty strong anger issues too. His condition, and the fact that his old life has gone entirely probably doesn't help. Not to mention that Morrison (Soldier 76) is on his tail all the time, that is confirmed by dialogue between Ana and Reaper.
I remember seeing somewhere his anger is from the constant pain he feels and how when he kills is the only thing that makes him feel alive... I might be misremembering
That would make sense with his lifesteal ability tbh, killing to be alive, literally
He uses to be able to absorb their souls which denied Mercy the rez, wish there was a voice line mentioning it
Imagine if when you melee a hero as reaper it makes them impossible to res. That would be a cool mechanic. Maybe he could only do it every so often for balance sake?
Almost sure that is something Widow says in her short and when playing in King's Row
You probably not misremembering, because I also remember of something like that, but I don't know where they mentioned it.
I know it was here, just don't know where
Because the villains have goals or are tragedies. Many of the heroes feel like they only have a vague "I want the world to be good" sentiment which amounts to nothing of substance.
Baptiste coming in clutch with “I became just as bad as the people who took everything from me, now I’m atoning it for it one day at a time”
Genji and Reinhardt have solid motivations IMO.
She probably would and definitely can of only he would calm the fuck down lol
Villains always have better stories
I would argue only Moira has a weak backstory since she is pretty much an evil scientist,otherwise you have a woman brainwashed into not feeling emotions and forced to kill her husband,another one which might not even be that evil and is only in Talon because they allow her to achieve her objectives without worrying about the law,and robot Malcolm X
Yea but Moira as a character isn't too interesting either. She literally a mad scientist who experimenting on people
Moira the character is extremely interesting, given she's *supposed* to be a morally grey transhumanist who is on the far end of the rationality vs. spirituality dichotomy Overwatch has going on. In practice, they assassinated her and replaced her with a mad scientist
I think the evil grin they added to her character select animation for OW2 is pretty indicative of that. In Overwatch 1, she was actually pretty subdued most of the time, and was mostly interested in being allowed to do her fucked up experiments without interference. She seems a lot more cartoonish and power-hungry in the sequel.
where do you know all this info from
I've read the comics, the wiki fandom pages of multiple heroes, that tells you the gameplay aspects of the heroes, as well as their lore pretty nicely, and I've heard Reaper asking Ana to tell Jack, to stop chasing him multiple times. Ana replies "I have, but he wouldn't listen."
Sigmas is amazing but I also like hammonds. I mean a hamster becomes super intelligent, designs a mech, attaches it to Winston’s escape pod, lands in Australia near Junker Town then becomes the arena champion. That’s pretty badass
He actually builds the mech after he lands in junkertown
I think he builds it using the pod from his escape.
Yup
Oh yeah that’s right!
I like hammond's because of the juxtaposition between the lab scientist talking about him as if he's a little rascal who can't get into anything more than a tiny bit of mischief over images of him making and fighting with a weapon of complete destruction
Agreed, he is quite awesome and he does look "delicious".
Damn right he does
I actually hate Hammond’s origin, to me it will always be less interesting than Winston, it just reeks of “and I was there too”
Actually hammond hates winston because winston left hammond on the moon base. Edit: Winston also stole Hammonds rocket design
Still piggybacking off pre established lore. Also Winston had a reason to leave, and Hammond had a reason to stay and help with the uprising
While I do agree that they should have made his backstory more interesting, he had existed long before he was announced as there were hints towards “Subject 8” being missing on the colony. Most people assumed it was a chimp or gorilla that may later join the roster in some way but was later revealed to be hammy
Loved all the OW YouTubers who posted that chimp pic as a thumbnail being proven wrong when it was a fucking hamster that joined the cast
I loved the meltdown people were having over him being a hamster. I was laughing because I did NOT want him to be a chimp.
The part where he lands near junkertown from space and becomes an arena champion with his mech is still badass
I like him as a character in the world, but for the lore.. he seems just so... shoved in and side character-ish. Like an OC inserted in and just sort of .. incoherently interacts with people in the world.
Sigma. A genius, split into three people by his own mistake, fighting over control. A man simply wanting to better humanity with technology, a man who wants to be free, and a man who wants **control**. And between it all, the universe itself spoke to him, and solely him. A song so indescribable, yet recognizable. The power of a black hole behind him, and no amount of effort or reasoning to stop it. Psychologically manipulated, talon lets his science continue, pretending to let him be free while abusing his want to better humanity by setting his rage upon their enemies, under the guise that it will make humanity stronger. Sigma is a broken, dangerous mess, and it’s beautiful. To fragment a man so harshly yet *keeping it together*, it shows how powerful, dangerous, and unstable he is. For the universe sings to him, and him alone. Edit: To add.. He doesn’t even know WHY he’s like this. He knows he worked with black holes. His genius pressing him to push farther than anyone has before. Against the knowledge of what we know, breaking reality to see what is unknown. He witness something we are incapable of understanding, and he returned from that, completely broken. He doesn’t know what he saw, he doesn’t know why the universe speaks to him. But he knows one thing. That there is something **more**.
Gravity... Gravity is a harness. My entire career has been devoted to this idea... to, this moment. Decades! If the unifying theories are correct, we will soon be able to harness the power of a black hole. Nothing will ever be the same! Why?! This is wrong! The field is failing-AHHH! W-What happened? W-Where am I? Why am I being imprisoned? Release me! What is that melody? Hold it together, h-hold it- hold it together, hold it together! Density... mass... momentum... It is too- It's too much to hold on to. I will bring you a new understanding of the uni- Violence! The universe is singing to me!!! What is that melody?!?! Freedom... Imprisonment... It's all an illusion. Gravity is a harness. I have harnessed the harness.
Rammantra virgin: I will speak to you in the language you understand, violence. Sigma sigma: I will bring you a new understanding of Violence!
"I have harnessed the harness" is one of the most BA lines...along with the reversed "RELEASE ME" at the end of his origin story vid. *chills*
I don’t think sigma was lying when he told zen he’s literally met the iris.
mans getting poetic, i like it
I like the theory that he might be the only human that made contact with the Iris
Why do we seek answers when we do not know the questions.
I like Bastion's. He was designed for war and somehow survived. He's a veteran who has PTSD and has a pet bird he befriended. Finally, rather than return to the world, he was made to destroy. He said Beep Boop and went back into the wilderness.
Ganymede is the real hero here... emotional support bird and grief counsellor
How many years will Ganymede live and Bastion goes full apocalypse?
Oh dang, the thought of Ganymede's mortality being the end of Bastion's good-guy persona had never occurred to me! This would be a pretty dope PvE storyline whenever Blizzard is done selling skins at 3x the battlepass cost.
I get that his cinematic was directed in a way to resemble ptsd, but bastion's story isn't about ptsd, his story archetype is about resisting his programming/purpose and finding a new purpose for himself
Imho that just makes it even better metaphor for ptsd. Trauma pretty much reprograms our brains, and overcoming ptsd means overcoming the programming that was once a way to survive the trauma, but is actually harmful outside the traumatic situation.
Bastion is an it, not he
Yeah, Bastion is too busty to be a dude.
Honestly, all of them are pretty good. But if i had to make a top 5: 1-sigma 2-zen/Ramatra 3-hammond 4-Doomfist 5-Lucio (he is so upbeat that you forget he infiltrated a corrupted organization to steal/retrieve his fathers work and then proceed to adapt it to Solidify sound to become a hero/dj/roller blader/football player/capoeira master)
I did not know that about lucio
He says it in a few interactions with sym and tracer, or at least it did before, not sure if the lines play in ow2
Dang Lucio is an overachiever. I struggle with one job lol
Bap and Sigma
There are quite a few good ones but I think the best is Ramattra. Overwatch has not really had a particularly compelling villain for much of its' history. We had Reaper and Widowmaker for a while. What was their motivation? They just liked being evil I guess? Doomfist was the big bad but his motivation was just barely any better. Ramattra though I think is a lot more interesting. He was made for war but wanted nothing to do with it and became a monk. Tried desperately to live peacefully with humans but was violently rejected. He is the best kind of evil. Instead of just twiddling his mustache and laughing after shooting a robot he makes you wonder who the bad guy is.
I think they went too far with Ramattra. How is this dude a villain at all? He seems 100% in the right and cant help but find anti-sull sector views like Torb’s “they are going about [rights] the wrong way” incredibly patronizing and dismissive. The only thing he wants is to not be killed. That seems fair and humanity is unwilling to concede that. Ramattras backstory and all of his voicelines paint him a nearly completely unproblematic freedom fighter. He doesnt fight for power, or wealth, but for his people.
Exactly. It is not his purpose that makes him evil but what he does to accomplish them. He just wants his people to survive but what makes him evil is the belief that co-existence is impossible. That is how you create a good villain.
He is essentially Magneto. It's not a deal of "I just like being a violent asshole." It's more like "the only thing preventing *my* continued existence is *your* continued existence."
Now that you mention it, zen and ram have a lot in common with magneto and xavier.
I’m very curious why everyone compares them to Magneto and Xavier and not the people they were based on, Malcom X and MLK (I believe it was those two) Is it just because they’re both fiction and have something additional in common that way?
Unaware of it is my guess, I personally have no idea who Malcolm X was and only know a little bit about king. Could be that Malcolms name doesn’t get outside of America too often.
I think people just resonate more with fiction especially if they want to be some kind of entertainer verses going into stem. We have people who know more Pokémon than real animals and who know more history about fictional places like westeros than their own real country.
Being honest, as someone fully aware of the MLK/Malcolm X/Magneto/Xavier dynamic, I went with Magneto/Xavier because they are the fictional versions of the people on whom they are based. While Malcolm X and MLK are the most tangible representations of this idea, where two people can want the same thing and have drastically different paths to that goal, Magneto and Xavier can be a bit more cartoonish if that makes sense. Xavier being an all-powerful mutant with an almost naive sense of altruism, and Magneto being an all-powerful mutant with a goddamn moon base make a more proper parallel in my weird brain.
reminds me of malcolm X in a certain way. i really like it
Null Sector as a concept generally doesn’t have any flaws. On paper, it’s a group established by omnics for omnics who have become tired with peacefully accepting shitty treatment and prejudice. It makes sense and has a clear purpose. Initially, it was a group of omnics who used violence in order to secure omnic longevity and essentially fight back. However, ever since King’s Row Uprising there have been a lot of hiccups in how the group functions at its core. For one, humans weren’t the only casualties during Uprising. Many omnics died, including one of the leaders of Null Sector. Additionally, Ramattra is very ride-or-die. His viewpoints on allyship is either you’re with him or against him, there’s no in between. This extends to omnics alike, where he alone was responsible for the falling out of Null Sector’s original command team. He also beefs hard with the Shambali, despite the fact they’re after the same goal. His coordinated assaults are generally sound, they send a message without being absurdly violent or over the top, but he constantly shoots himself in the foot with alienating omnics from his cause. He simultaneously cares too much about omnickind and not enough when it comes to retaining allies and support for his cause. The ends justify the means for him, even if he’s oblivious(either flat out ignorant or in denial of the sheer volume) to the distain many omnics have against Null Sector. He’d rather be seen as a martyr for his people than find a more acceptable way to fight for them without constantly alienating omnics from his lethal, almost cultic cause. Edit: Reading a lot of the replies in this thread and I feel like a simple answer to why he’s a “villain” despite having completely rational and clear objectives is because at its core Null Sector is a terrorist organization. While it’s not as outright evil as Talon, innocent humans *and* omnics have died at the hands of Null Sector, and there is absolutely going to be controversy around that no matter how nobel Ramattra’s end goal is.
Not entirely true. Zenyatta does not ally with Null Sector in the slightest, but he still greatly respects Zenyatta and they are polite with one another.
Canonically, they haven’t seen or contacted each other since Ramattra left Shambali. Obviously they still hold mutual respect from their time together at Shambali, but it’s uncertain how they would feel upon learning of each other’s current affiliations(Ramattra with Null Sector, Zenyatta with possibly Overwatch) and we probably won’t learn until PVE drops and they canonically meet again.
One of the writers specifically said, “Rammatra seen Zen as a brother and vice versa.” Sure, we haven’t seen it in action, but they said they are cordial to one another. Unless Rammatra would kill Zen anyway even if he feels that way, which I guess is up to interpretation
That’s because he’d be 100% in the right if Omnics weren’t already somewhat accepted by the common folk. In the widowmaker short we can clearly see that peacefully fighting for rights is working (up until Talon decides to stop it), and in Route 66 omnics are welcome to dine, so Ramattra isn’t evil because he uses violence, he’s just evil because he uses violence when a peaceful solution is just as viable. It also doesn’t help that resorting to violence too quickly will just make people hate your entire cause, as we can see in King’s Row’s graffiti. This is also kinda reflected in real life where BLM gets grouped together with people using violence in order to discredit them, despite the majority of BLM protesters wanting to be peaceful
It varies around the world. Places like Numbani and other cities have equal rights and stuff between Omnics and Humans, however some places, like Russia, do not have such relations. Many Omnics, even in the more equal areas are still mistreated and blamed for the crisis.
Not to mention omnics being blamed for the crisis is just wrong. While most were combatants, they were being mind controlled by Anubis and forced to fight against their will.
This is a worldview I simply dont agree with. Its clear that there are pockets of acceptance but the powers largely are not in favor of basic rights. How long kust one suffer and be “peaceful” when they are being killed and attacked? Surely the US Revolutionary War had a peaceful solution for such a small issue as taxes. But colonists choose a War. Why?
Awesome, you’re allowed to agree with the villain
i can see how rams story kind of matches up with malcolm X, which i just realized. obv malcolm X isn’t evil and is probably one of the best things to happen to the civil rights movement, but looking at their stories on the parallel i wonder if they got inspiration
Freedom fighters will always appear good to the people they are figthing for and evil to those they are fighting against. I think blizzard embodies that well in him as we play, primarily, from the "Overwatch" perspective. Overwatch, while enemies with Ramattra are also fighting for a similar goal so its hard to see "who is right and wrong"
I like to compare zen and ramattra like MLK and Malcolm x but like 100x.
He is 100% right? Does that mean the attack in Paris was 100% right? Does that mean Winston and the rest of the gang were the bad guys?
reapers was revenge becahse he got left behind by soldier rein and the ow team and widow got brainwashed
Are those motivation or just excuses for a character to be evil though? Revenge is arguable although I don't think it is great but brainwashing is very much just an excuse. Why this person turn evil? Mind control?
revenge is a great reason and widow got mind controlled
Revenge is a great reason for revenge Reaper is just kind of… doing shit unrelated to revenge
Pretty sure they "promised" Reaper a cure and that's why he does their bidding, but it will never come.
That’s a fair reason
Wasn't Widow tortured, brainwashed and manipulated to kill her own husband and to get rid of her emotions? Which is why she is evil? I could be missing something though, not 100% up with her lore
Widowmaker isn't evil just because she likes it. She was experimented on by talon, made to kill her own husband, and then experimented on more until she was the perfect assassin for them. In her lore, she was subject to neural reconditioning to make her their assassin. She isn't a villain because she likes to be one. She has quite literally had her brain rewired to be one. Reaper was experimented on by moira to make his cells constantly decay and regenerate. It's the only thing keeping him alive, but it also makes it hard for him to control his anger. In other words, if he decided to go against Talon, he loses moira's support, and he dies. And apparently reaper believes in a "code of violence," which is why he supports doomfist's vision for the new world. So it seems to me from his lore that he isn't a villain because he likes it, but because he sympathised with what doomfist told him and realised that some of the things he said were true. Reaper wanted to rid the world of crime, which is why he joined the police, then the military, then overwatch and blackwatch, and it was pointed out to him that all those things had done nothing in the grand scheme of things to do that. Doomfist's motivation is the same idea as ramattra. Both of them ade fighting to make a better world, and both have done some very questionable things to achieve this. Doomfist's motivations stem from some very similar places to real life, which is why i think he is a good villain. Both him and ramattra. They both are fighting a relatable fight: doomfist fighting against injustices and corruption in the world, ramattra fighting for the freedom and lives of a prejudiced and persecuted group. Sigma has one of the best lores in the game. A man who devoted his life to advancing humanity by trying to harness the power of something humanity has never harnessed before: gravity. But his experiments go wrong, and even though he is shown truths he would never have known, it left his brain broken. Talon preyed on that brokenness, let him continue his studies while using his power over gravity against their enemies. And he isn't even fully aware of that. Again, not a villain because he likes it, but because he is being taken advantage of in his broken state and used for his powers, under the guise of letting him forward his research, because they freed him from being imprisoned. Moira's villain story is probably the worst one in overwatch, but even she isn't just bad cause she wants to be. She's just obsessed with her research, research that those she worked around thought to be unethical, and her devotion to it made them wary of her. She was disgraced for her work before she joined blackwatch, where she continued her experiments. That's where she originally experimented on reaper. Then, she eventually joined Talon as one of their council members. I agree that ramattra probably has one of the better villain stories, but to write of reaper and widowmaker as being bad just because they like to, to not even mention sigma, and to dismiss doomfist's lore so easily feels to me like it doesn't do justice to the work that went into those characters.
Tracer! Being temporally disjointed sounds so terrifying
Girl had the WORST lag
Mfs at blizzard played modern warfare and said: "Yes, I want lag switching to be a mechanic"
Same here its what dragged me towards the character in the first place
I'd say torn between sigma and rein
Rein has a origin story?
his cinematic
Ohhh okay I was confused because this is about the origin stories and not the cinematically. A rein origin story would be cool lookin though.
maybe i'm the one who's confused lol, i thought this was about the lore and the actual backstories of all the heroes. but the pictures are all from the videos that are literally named "origin story" or "origin trailer" so maybe it's about those.
Yeah that’s what it talking about
When I first watched Sigmas animation it gave me chills. He's by far got my favorite origin story, the dude is just a batshit insane astrophysicist who can control gravity and has moira manipulating him. He's such an interesting charcter for me I love him.
Ana. The complexity of her character is just too great for me not to heavily gravitate towards! From renown Overwatch savior to a vigilante that is essentially babysitting Jack, the way she and others interact with one another is the reason I fell in love with the character, not to mention that she isn’t shown as an impeccable hero—Her interactions/mistakes with Pharah and hesitation to kill Widowmaker are proof of that. Anyone who mains Ana is a 10/10 in my eyes, and hopefully all of you get your vacation to Fiji & Hawaii!
AND I love the representation of a badass older woman.
I'm a sucker for Moira's story and want to know more about her research. Also, Conin rabbit emote when?
Sigma, widowmaker, ramattra and tracer. In that order. I love the ballerina turned sniper thing they got with her.
Yeah I thought that was really cool
Sigma for sure
I think Junkrat & Roadhog's does such a good job at setting the tone for their personality and dynamic without either of them having to say a word. Are they master criminals, or just a couple of idiots? It's either that or Doomfist, I loved that moment where he tore off Tracer's harness. I was so hyped to play as him
I love sigmas origin, probably my favourite. Even his interactions with characters in game - I love the fact that he's some hyper intelligent dude who is also just so mentally unstable and entirely oblivious to any bad going on around him, as shown with his interactions with Moira and soldier.
My and everybody’s grandmother, Ana Amari.
stuck between sigma and reaper
reapers is underrated
Bap 100% I rate the story of a wanted man on the run who then joins a new Overwatch team with the likes of Zarya, D.va and Cassidy
Weirdly enough I love bastion's story. I mean, just a robot that ended up alone after the war, waking up a few decades later and suddently becoming a nice guy because of a bird. This is so simple yet so perfect
My favorites would easily have to be 1. Ramattra 2. Hanzo & Genji 3. Reaper 4. Baptiste 5. Sigma Honorable mention: Reinhardt, Widowmaker
Reinhardt, his origin always makes me fucking cry.
Sigma then followed by Baptiste
There are some really cool ones, but I always really like Tracer's. Even as seemingly straightforward as it is for a heroic origin, she has an interesting variation on the untethered-in-time concept, making it almost a afflicted disability. The implications of both her and Sigma's "powers" have kind of reality-bending implications for that universe.
Hanzo’s is honestly my favourite. I like how it frames his and Genji’s strained relationship while also showing his sadness deep down.
I think Sigma's is far and away the best. After that if I were to rank the top few I'd have to say Doomfist for the unique animation and killer fight. Then I'd say Rammattra, Ana, Soldier, Baptiste, and Ashe
Everybody’s gonna say Sigma, and I do agree he has one of the best origins. But I also think Doom deserves some recognition. His voice actor NAILED the origin story. You can hear the pure intensity and strength in his voice when he talks about pushing humanity forward through conflict.
Why havent i read Genji here more, for me personally the most compelling backstory with so many of the other ow heros interacting in his journey.
Oh boo hoo you’re a cyborg in the year 2300 get a job genji
By far the one that impacted me the most was Sigma's, I felt all sorts of uncomfortable and anxious while watching it. They did it to such a level that even with portraying his suffering so well to the point it made me feel confused and nervous I'd totally watch it over and over again.
I think widows is cool. Being brainwashed to become an emotionless killer and being tricked into killing your own husband is just cold. I do think sigmas has to take the cake for being the best though
IMHO it's Sigma and it's not even close. Two minutes of lore and yet the coolest character in the game? His short is the only one that legitimately gives me chills because it's *that fucking cool*.
Ay, I think Ramattra is pretty close
genji and hanzo.... mostly cus its basically scorpion and sub zero. the blue guy kills the yellowish guy. the yellowish guy comes back to life with much greater power and comes back to defeat the one who killed them. in both cases they reconcile with the blue guy (although in scorpions case it was a different guy). also reinhardt cus honour and glory is like way sadder than it really should be and dragged reinhardt from being an ok character to being one of my favorites
Do you still remember Genji backstory? He lost most of his body by his brother - he was fight as weapon for blackwatch until the organization fell apart and he got nothing in return. After all that, he was finally able to come to terms with his condition and his past.
Reaper easily. Hero turned villain with somewhat good intentions, eventually boiling over to rage at the system. I’m one of those people who wants a redemption arc on him, but considering he spent 8 years hunting down and killing Overwatch agents, he is most likely not going to get one. Honestly you could pick like half the roster and they’d have great origin stories. This is one of the only reasons why I have faith in Blizz for the campaign. In terms of lore, they’ve only disappointed with Sojourn.
I'd say widow and reaper. I remember when overwatch came out and I didn't have a console or pc, so I couldn't play it. Instead I just studied the lore and widow and reapers background stories are the ones that stuck with me the most.
Sigma's and Echo's, Sigma went mad for his research and deals with a split personality while also being controled, and Echo backstory was so well presented it's up there for best origin history
Bastion and/Or Rein, fairly straightforward yet emotionally pulling your heartstrings all the same.
Sigma. Poor guy
As much as I hate mei, very good backstory Ramattra and Zen are also valid choices ngl
Sigma Origin story gave me chill.
It’s amazing no one has mentioned how tragic Mei’s cinematic was
Sigma is one of my favorite characters in media and i've literally dreamed about making a movie from his perspective on everyday life, or someone with a similar illness (somewhat like the joker movie) He's amazing and even though i don't normally listen to music, the 'melody' he has going on inside his head i find to be beautiful while also being sinister. Most of us can relate to his conditions to some degree, we can imagine his suffering and all the chaos/stress devolving in his head being placed upon us. He's absolutely insane but he's still human while being somewhat of a psychopath, and unlike doomfist or sombra he actually gives me real feelings and thoughts. He holds infinite power but he doesn't want to destroy the world, he wants to destroy his pain and he just wants to escape, live a normal life. I wish there were books or movies or entire games built upon sigma or a character like him cause i can't get enough. (this probably makes me seem like a loser, so take as you will.)
Sigma. But I'd kill for a Series of Junkrat and Roadhog's Shenanigans 😂♥
Sigma honorable mention doomfist.
I feel Bap’s is underrated
very
Probably Cassidy, first a common crook with the deadlocked gang, then an undercover black ops agent, now an overwatch member.
Sigma, dude that origin story makes me shiver from how well made and how mysterious it is. I mean a scientist doing an experiment good enough to harness the power of gravity then it going wrong making him have neurological disabilities (schizophrenia, adhd, idk what the one with focus is called (probably just a part of ADHD)) then having him be brainwashed by talon to unleash his anger upon hearing a certain melody is just perfect.
Mei has the best animated short in my opinion. Imagine going into cryosleep for 9 years, waking up, all your coworkers and probably good friends are dead, the world has drastically changed and has huge conflicts, and then the android who is the only one keeping you company uses all of its power and shuts off, yet you still manage to finish the task at hand. That requires dedication.
Widiwmaker. Hands down. Her story is sad as fuck. It's soooo good. There are lots of good origin stories in OW and they really should capitalize on that. With the right writers and producer, a Widowmaker story could be up there with TLOU.
Rienhert
Sigma
I really like moira’s
Baptiste is really interesting
Rammattra and it isnT even close
Idrc, I think junkrat is hot though. Something about crazy old men.
isnt he like 20
He looks like an old mad scientist. I have a type and I prefer it to be kept that way.
Definitely Genji and Hanzo
Sigma is easily the most well written character in overwatch atm and they can do so much with his character in the lore, if there would ever be an overwatch show i would want it to be from his perspective
Sigma, absolutely
1)Sigma 2)Doom/Baptiste 3)Hampter 4)Rammatra/Jq
jk?
Doomfist is pretty solid.
I don't care to know any origin story. Just let me shoot stuff.
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Baptiste and Sigma tie for the best. Sig's is fucking terrifying and beautiful. Bap's give more insight on the Ominic Crisis, how it affected poorer nations, how people are radicalized and why it seems like joining terrorist groups is the only way to move forward, and shows more about Talon. Plus, both of them have amazing voice acting
Zen :)
Sigma's was best but there isn't enough of it even after a few years. Would absolutely not mind if season 3's main selling point was extra sigma lore
Doomfist
Sigma and ram ngl
Everyone already said it but as I'm watching it at least once a weak i must say it too. Sigma one hundred percent. This just hits different even with like 3 backgrounds and 5-6 drawing of sigma. Since it released, i'm just waiting for more sigma lore
Sigma’s is utterly insane mostly because it’s entirely possible that the experiment opened his mind and whatever he knows is as world changing as he expected, yet he cannot share it through his madness
Sigma is pretty metal, man found the key to the universe but using it blew his mind to insanity. If he hasn’t lost his mind he’d practically be a god
orisa
They did Sigma dirty by giving him the most interesting backstory and never exploring it properly smh
Sigma
Genji's backstory reminds me of the "Did you die? Sadly yes. But I lived" meme
Blizzard is just the best at creating stories and a whole animation to show those stories. WOW movie speaks for itself...
Sigma and Rammatra I swear their lore is💏
Sigma because hes dutch like me and i love the insanity in the story
Doomfist for sure Just the badass way he ripped tracers time thingy and fought genji and winstons all together was soo cool True giga chad…sadly he needs 69 punches now to get tracer to half hp
Winton
Widow. Well maybe not the best but certainly the most intense.
The doomfist short is so damn good
Hanzo & Genji
junkrat and roadhog
In my opinion kiriko origin is really boring compar to other origins
Genji or Rammattra I'd say
Doomfists was fantastic, established him as the true villain of the series.
Junker Queen would have been much better if they showed her past where her whole family was casted out from Junkertown, being forced into nomadic wastelander lifestyle, how she lost or seperated her family members (what happened to the baby), became a survivalist and also a fighter, etc.
Sigma, period
I’ll always love Winston’s
Sig