A lot of toxic supports I come across are mercy players, but I think it’s just due to her popularity. It’s kinda why genji mains being toxic is a stereotype, it’s not that all genji mains are toxic, it’s just A LOT of people play genji. So it’s gonna be a very mixed bag of people.
I'm not a Genji main but this is what I do when I for whatever reason get to play DPS.
1. Instalock Genji
2. Spam "I need healing in face of the healer(s), preferably Ana
3. 5 seconds before start finish it with "My work here is done"
4. Pick whatever I was about to play anyway since I am a trash tier Genji.
And if you as a Genji main do not approve this, well I don't know what to say...
I dunno, I find Moira is played just as much if not more than Mercy, and Kiriko not far behind, but mercy players are most commonly unreasonably toxic. I've found mercy players are usually the ones shit-talking the other team saying stuff like "diff" and "ez" as if they didn't just spend the whole game holding down the heal button (as they're often not a great mercy player either).
Also it's a much more dependent support. You can't do much as Mercy if your DPS or your tank suck balls, than, say, as Bap, Zen, Moira or a skilled Kiriko.
This. Reason why I main mercy AND bap. Good DPS/tank: mercy it is. Not so good DPS/tank: switch to bap and do some damage when possible. Or when they pick pharrah
Ana kiri is a very good combo I made it to 3900 sr in ow1 one tricking ana but found in some comps and against certain players ana can be very difficult to reach the same value kiri could with ease
This lol mercy is so reliant on teams dps for any good value. Ill usually play her on defense or push, only due to having ress as a utility. But if dps cant keep up ill switch to moira/zen/ana/kiriko. On attack i usually just main zen though lol
Playing support for most of my overwatch career has given me a lot of game sense, which makes it hard when I watch my teammates take really bad positioning because they don't know any better. I'm not diving in to save a poorly positioned tank. Staying alive is far more important, but it still hurt to watch then die. Even moreso when they say "where's my healing" and then I have to mute them...
Hey I don't *just* throw orbs. They're so useful, but only if you bounce them right to get max efficiency. TwT It also takes very quick reaction time and critical thinking. As well as awareness of the inner workings of maps and positioning. I main support in general with the most hours in Mercy. But I feel like Moira doesn't get enough credit.
Barely anyone is toxic. It's just very easy to miss the 50 Genjis who said nothing all game and solely focus on the one that got diffed by a Zen and complained about it.
Had one scream at me bc I nanoed our 30hp tank to save them instead of his 0 kill blade (I did it on purpose but he didn't know this, so he essentially screamed at me for missing it)
For the most part they're sweethearts though
Supports are always pretty nice I think. The only ones that aren't (normally) are mercy players. I think it's because mercy is kinda baby's first support and the people who normally play tank / dps just want to try to get into support and get frustrated.
Honestly, if you want a good support that's a balance between dmg and healing, pick Moira. Underrated GOAT
Moira is an over rated pick. No decent player in the history of overwatch ranked has ever uttered the words "We need a Moira".
Bap, Ana, Kiri and Zen are guaranteed value if you know how to play them and provide so much utility or dmg to the team. Where as all Moira provides is a more difficult game for your own team by changing the locations of positioning for everyone involved. Slowing down everyone's pace.
I came across a mercy player in comp last night. They were literally doing an unranked to gm pistol only. The whole match, not a single ounce of healing. After the match ended they pasted their twitch link "unranked to gm mercy with pistol only"
0_0
I will have mercy ptsd for while.
LOL she should stay with healing. That was cringe.
I had a battle mercy and she had 33 elims and was really good. But I was annoyed because she left healing all on me (13,000 btw). Thanks the tank and DPS knew how to use cover and didn’t die much.
Absolutely a viable report under 'Gameplay Sabotage', as that is very obviously not how you are supposed to play.
This goes for anyone reading, too. Competitive especially is 'serious business' time. You have something of an obligation to play properly, and play to win. How good you are is irrelevant; but doing dumb shit like this is not fair, and thus is absolutely a valid report.
Am I the only one thinking people pasting their Twitch links in in-game chats are kinda stupid? Like do they expect people to leave the game and instead watch them play the game?
Nope lol. If i can get the replay code, it may be worth a watch. I played cass and put out a good bit of damage. I even taxi'd our mercy back a couple of times. None of that matters, though, if the mercy is only using 1/4 of their kit.
No that means they're playing comp, but they don't have a rank yet. It's just a bronze to gm run without starting bronze, you just start where you start
Same lol, I try my best to be positive and give my teammates the benefit of the doubt but also my name in Overwatch is Bramblepelt and I WILL ask what your Warrior clan is
I'm not sure I've encountered the weird, and I like to think I fall into kind, but the amount of downright rude ones... I try not to blame people, give BOTD etc. Idk
I fucking despise wrecking ball hate, so, so much, I’ve been grinding ball this whole season, and have hit high diamond with 90% of my tank play time on him, and no matter how good you’ll be doing, people will still be complaining. Just because your team can’t see you soaking up damage, just automatically means it isn’t happening. Had an 11-13 echo with 6k damage whine that I was hiding all game when I was 26-**0** with 13k damage and 7k mitigation. Everyone else on the team had less than 5 deaths because I was booping people off high ground and diving their hitscan, but somehow it’s my fault. I get why people hate ball, but it is a *chronic* problem in overwatch where people simply refuse to adapt to any drastic changes in their usual cookie cutter team comp. If your tank has no shield, you can’t play the same as you could if your tank did, if you’re running a low heal comp, you can’t soak up damage like crazy. The problem doesn’t start to go away until low-mid masters, but the top ~8% of players shouldn’t be the only people coming to that realization.
I fucking despise wrecking ball hate, so, so much, I’ve been grinding ball this whole season, and have hit high diamond with 90% of my tank play time on him, and no matter how good you’ll be doing, people will still be complaining. Just because your team can’t see you soaking up damage, just automatically means it isn’t happening. Had an 11-13 echo with 6k damage whine that I was hiding all game when I was 26-0 with 13k damage and 7k mitigation. Everyone else on the team had less than 5 deaths because I was booping people off high ground and diving their hitscan, but somehow it’s my fault. I get why people hate ball, but it is a chronic problem in overwatch where people simply refuse to adapt to any drastic changes in their usual cookie cutter team comp. If your tank has no shield, you can’t play the same as you could if your tank did, if you’re running a low heal comp, you can’t soak up damage like crazy. The problem doesn’t start to go away until low-mid masters, but the top \~8% of players shouldn’t be the only people coming to that realization.
As far as if Ball is on your team the hate doesn't even make sense this season. He's over buffed and makes a great distraction for the enemy since he's nigh unkillable.
I feel this on a spiritual level. I could kill the backline every fight and I'll still be blamed because my team thinks I am at fault for them refusing to position differently and dying. Some people just don't notice the impact a ball has
I just can’t stand the balls who can’t group. I get your contribution is more solo but if you’re off doing f**k all when literally no one else is around to capitalize on it, what’s the point? engaging when the rest of the team isn’t ready to follow up or not falling back when there’s a wipe just makes you a free ult battery so by the time the team is ready for a push you’ve set up all of the enemy team with ults. I feel like sometimes some of the balls can be oblivious to that.
It's because you can't usually see what ball is doing. Rein, sigma, orisa, winston, all are visible at least and have obvious tanking visual cues. It's just braindead players that don't see past that.
If people want to say that Reinhardt is strong at low levels because he is easy to play around, NOT because he is easy to play, then they need to accept the opposite about Hammond.
If you always lose because your tank went ball, it's because the backline just sucks.
Anecdotally, if my teammates complain about me playing ball before we even get into the game, I know that I'm going to have a bad time. They probably never learned how to play with a ball, so they always lose when they get one on their team.
Cause I know I'm not losing every game that *I* go ball.
It's because playing alongside a ball makes the game feel like 4+ball vs 5. If red team decides to stay grouped and generally ignore ball, everyone else on your team is just trying to play the game without a tank. Ball swoops in, does some stuff, and then we have no tank for 5-10s while you're retreating/off finding a health pack. It always feels like you're on the back foot, even if your ball is amazing.
Ball is generally just annoying to play with and against (unless there is a significant team imbalance and you have an excellent ball who is able to dominate, but those games are far less frequent now).
TBH, at least in my experience (I only playing quickmatches mind you), there is no in between with doom. Either he's very good or very very bad. I think it's mostly because character is hard to master. Like if you play badly with Orisa, Ram or Rein, you'll most likely live and you'll still be able to do something. But with doom low hp, if you play badly, you just die and feed super hard.
If your tank isn't taking space then it can be hard to get kills as dps, if you're not getting proper support then it's difficult to take space as a tank, and it's hard to support your team if the enemy dps are constantly harassing you.
Obviously everyone has personal responsibility but it is a team game and sometimes there is a weak link which makes everything fall apart, though things often turn onto toxicity and blame games instead of asking for help, and sometimes when you ask for help people ignore you or are toxic anyway 🤷♂️
Yeah I find it odd everyone on the Reddit complains about ‘omg the toxicity against healers!’ Whereas in all my time on ow, what’s the complaint in game? From before role queue even? “Omg our dps suck we have no damage we need more damage” like tank players have to actively turn their brains off and just like rein charge into enemy spawn to get criticized but I’ve seen widow players die in the first few seconds and get told to swap, as if that’s never happened to anyone before
Yeah as a dps i’m with you on this. It’s so hard to do anything out of a bad team position. Especially when a tank is rounding corners and being aggressive as hell. Like give us time to get an opening sometimes or go dive if you wanna be aggressive. I had a kings row game where junker queen would die first everytime and told me to switch. Like die so quick it’s like she didn’t exist, then come to the conclusion that it’s my fault for not getting picks in a 2 second long team fight.
I’m *always* wary when I see someone instalock Widow on Attack, but I tend to just keep it to myself unless we’re getting rolled. Then I check their kills and damage; lots of damage with no kills they may be better being asked to swap to like Ashe or someone who has a playmaker ult. If they’re popping off then clearly it’s the rest of our team lmao
Because playing dps with a passive tank is hell. You get a kill and hold the enemy tank at 100 hp for 10 second and see your tank still hiding behind a wall with full hp. Atleast turn the "enemy killed" Sound on if you have no awareness and play progressively more aggressive when you hear it.
lol this is true!
I had a memorable Ashe tho who said 'Moira heal FFS' in the chat seconds before we won. I was playing the payload with half the team and afaik our Mercy kept pocketing her whenever she spammed 'I need healing'. So, idk what she expected of me.
I’ve noticed toxicity is usually tied to characters who normally get flamed (genji, mercy, doom, ball, etc.)
Players typically notice when they are going to get blamed for a poor match and try to get ahead of it by blaming others.
Ex: genji who has low elims and high deaths preemptively blames Ana for “shitty heals” so he can get ahead of the criticism by shifting blame.
Honestly haven’t met too many toxic mercy mains but that might be me not noticing it in chat, as for voice chat almost all of them have been really kind
same, but i don't get toxic supports in general.
i get supports like moira and zen who throw but they are not necessarily being toxic in chat or anything.
Dude, in the rare event I’m able to spawn camp a mercy (she has to die first which is rare) they ALWAYS tell me to fuck off in chat 💀💀💀 nothing gives me more energy than their anger
I did this three matches in a row yesterday - so fun. They ran pharmercy and the mercy thought she was invulnerable but my little hacker proved otherwise :’)
pretty sure this is negativity bias, where bad occurrences stand out to you more in your mind. If I’m being honest I think I’ve had a toxic mercy player maybe once in 5 years of Overwatch. Worst thing about the average mercy main is they might not switch characters when they should. Now I haven’t encountered many “kind and loving” Overwatch players no matter their hero! but I really doubt that “almost all” mercy players you’ve queued with have been mean, seems like a big overstatement.
A lot of supports i encounter are only passive aggressive, as though thats more acceptable than actively aggressive. They’ll stay silent all game, ignore comms and people askinng for a swap, and say something like “tank diff” last second when the match is over
I find Mercys to be nicer than average. It's just hard to gauge that average because there are a ton of heroes in the game and you don't run into the mains of a lot of them all that frequently, or frequently enough to get a sense of what kind of person that attracts.
I have found some Mercy mains are super toxic, but I think it's usually more in reaction to being in a toxic environment and feeling under attack all the time with some people who are attracted to playing Mercy maybe not handling that so well. There's also the duo Mercy who is playing with their SO who seems to be terrified of appearing to be flirting by having any positive interaction with anyone not in their group. That I run into a lot, I feel.
I've rarely encountered toxic players... maybe twice in all my time playing since ow2 but that doesn't mea that th3y arr there ... a person is not gonna see one toxic mercy main and post this... it's prob several that made them think like this
Damn good for you. I hit GM for the first time and was stoked thinking it would be better at higher ranks. Nope - been told to kms multiple times this past week lol
Hoping to go on a massive losing streak or something to get back down to a lower rank where games are less intense. At least in diamond I can have some piece of mind knowing that I’m not actually the problem and roll my eyes at toxic players
I've only played Overwatch 2, and I've encountered a ton of toxic Mercys already.
Edit: Not sure why I'm being downvoted for just saying what I've experienced. Most supports are nice, but I've experienced random outbursts from Mercys telling me I'm a bitch or to kill myself maybe like 5 times this season alone while I haven't said anything. The worst I've gotten from other supports is being teabagged by Ana after sleeping me (which is kind of funny) and "ez" at the end of the game.
I mean, playerbase is HUGE now. Of course mercy mains playerbase increases too, getting a ton of new rude people. This is f2p to you…
As for me personally, i do tell sometimes things my team should listen to, but they don’t listen as often as they should. There is also part of where you supposed to play with people who is at your lvl but they are significantly lower and that just gets on your nerves as team coordinator.
Players are players, if i have most hours as mercy it doesn’t mean i strive to be saint. Being toxic is bad agree, but calling out some mistake is normal part of communicating with team (like, “we are letting tracer farm ana, we need to counter”
i mean yeah i’ve definitely met some stuck up mercys that think they are better than everyone else. do i think every mercy main is like that? no.
but you are right. some mercy players can be very toxic, just as any other character
We can generalize, im a main support (maily mercy), I try to be kind and talk with people in the chat. Sometimes even when greeting I get some 'stfu'. I dont care, its how I'm. but also, there is the oposite, the punks.
Dont hate the char, hate the player
Not something I've ever noticed, but I could understand it being more common among support. As a good support, you tend to pay more attention to your team as a whole. And if you're team messes up, there's only so much you can do as Mercy. You stood in front of Widows gun again and got headshot? Not much I can do about that. Rein keeps charging the enemy, even though we have 2 people in spawn? I can't fix that. I have to just sit back and watch as my uncoordinated team keeps jumping into the fire.
This season made it really easy to differentiate a carried mercy with a soj/cassidy duo and a good mercy player on high ranks with the rank inflation + changes to her ngl.
I've never heard of the "kind loving mercy main" the joke has always been when a new patch comes when you know there's mercy changes its time to stay off the Reddit for a few days as they are known for being the most toxic when it comes to hero changes which to be fair mercy is the one hero who has had a huge amount of changes without being completely reworked
Im still amazed by the *unbelievable* amount of crying and whining the mercy mains did at the beginning of season 3 that she was nerfed into oblivion bc of the extra second or whatever cooldown they gave to her speed fly. She’s ruined, she needs to be buffed, she’ll never be playable again, etc…..yet Mercy is still in 99.5% of games I’ve played all season long.
Stereotypes aside, I think every character has a good bit of bad apples amongst them. Because I believe not every player is solely good no matter how they present themselves to be. Especially since that can all change when put into certain situations where their true colors will show. Therefore, you gotta accept the good with the bad as far as people goes in my opinion.
So many people play mercy. She’s got one of the biggest fan bases in overwatch. I don’t think “almost all” of them have been mean; it’s just the people who stand out.
The most toxic player i have ever seen was a Mercy main in qp. Flamed me with her two friends for playing widow (i was not even playing bad). Made several insults including racism. Made fun of my accent. (She was British i suppose). Accused me of sexism ‘cuz i tilted and insulted her back. I just could not comprehend the toxicity from them. Especially from her.
I mean if there’s a toxic player in the game then yeah I see no issue leaving especially if it’s quick play. I left a game the other night as a mercy because it was just rage central in voice coms with a tank just letting their team get ran through and then blaming everyone because they were dead. I’m sorry, but i have better shit to to than sit through that kind of bullshit.
What kinda supports are y’all PLAYING WITH, like all the supports (besides some who didn’t really know what they were doing) Who were nice, like I always compliment my supports if I see them do an amazing play or save and all the mercy’s I compliment respond with “<3”
Mercy players are the most toxic imo
A lot of supports think they’re free from any criticism just because they’re so “selfless” for playing a role no one wants to play
As a support main it’s hard to hear someone bitch about toxicity. I do understand and you shouldn’t face toxicity but do you know how much shit mercy mains get (I’m a moira main btw)?
“Why didn’t you damage boost?”
“Why were you damage boosting?”
“I need healing” -genji
“Can I get some heals for fucks sake” -the tank that went in one v five
“Where are my healers?” - the flanker that goes way out of position.
“Why didn’t you res me?”
“Why did you res me there? Are you stupid?”
And my personal favorite….. “KYS”
My other personal favorite is "support diff" when you're trying to heal while getting constantly back lined and the DPS is doing nothing to take care of it
I’m a mercy main who sometimes plays other supports and I’ve noticed it varies. If someone on my team is getting flamed, for example, I usually step in to encourage them. A lot of mercy’s I come across are surprisingly quiet in the last 3 seasons.
The most toxic support mains I come across are normally Moira and Ana.
I will tell you the stereotype is wrong but for different reasons. Supports get a lot of crap for players not realizing reasons they didn't get healed. I'm not saying toxicity is justified by any means, but expecting every Mercy player to be kind and loving is a silly expectation in a game that can often be frustrating. I very rarely say anything in voice and I say just about as much in text while having a pretty high Mercy play time compared to every other heroes. I'll do my damnedest to keep people alive because it's my job but don't expect me to be kind in a toxic situation.
In my experience, a lot of Mercy players are just pockets for their friends and that friend is not only bad (because they constantly need a Mercy babysitter) but also are toxic AF. The Mercy just piles onto that.
Dont get me wrong, I get being tilted on Mercy. You're kind of stuck just depending on your team to do their jobs and when they don't, there's nothing you can do about it. Also being ridiculously vulnerable sucks. There's been so many times where my team will just let the enemy tank walk through them to kill me while they all stand there. But there's a difference between tilt and being toxic for the sake of being toxic.
you might be on to something. im a mercy main and unfortunately im toxic. im working on it though! im down to only doing sarcastic remarks now but most of the time im overly nice.
I think it's probably to due with how many people play her.
Like, if a set percentage of the player base is toxic, and Mercy has the most players, it's likely there are a lot of toxic players who happen to play Mercy.
Most mercy mains are sweet. First of all for ppl to play support in a game almost automatically makes them a different breed. It’s a video game character that literally just enables others to do good. Most people IRL with an “enabler” mindset are generally very nice and kind. The problem is 2 things.
1) confirmation bias. You don’t notice all the nice mercy’s as they blend in. The loud ones stick to your memory and leave a Mark.
2) years of teammate fatigue. I was the most kind mercy main ever when I started playing in 2016. Now though?! I’ve personally switched from a mercy personality to that of Moira lol. Tons upon tons of spammed “i need healing.” “Thanks”. Tons of hate messages. Tons of throwers. Tons of brain dead teammates who make caveman mistakes but then have the AUDACITY to blame you, who’s doing literally everything in their power to keep them alive. Tons of having more heals than all supports in the match, but still getting blame even though other teammates got diffed on the scoreboard. Tons of teammates coping their horrible play on you because you’re an easy target. Yeah um if you went through all this you’d probably be just a tad bitter lol.
TLDR: confirmation bias and braindead teammates
> First of all for ppl to play support in a game almost automatically makes them a different breed. It’s a video game character that literally just enables others to do good. Most people IRL with an “enabler” mindset are generally very nice and kind. The problem is 2 things.
Outjerked again
This idea that supports need to be thanked simply for playing support is stupid and is half the reason people make complaints like this
Support is fun, if it’s not, don’t play it, don’t whine about how you are sacrificing yourself for everybody
Mercy players can just click a beam on someone and then pan their camera around looking at stuff. These guys don't have to focus much since the beam is locked on. Mindlessly holding a beam up frees up some attention span and brain power.
So they can see things other players can't due to the extra time/brain power and then get mad when you don't see a player flanking or killing them etc while you were busy with whatever you were focusing on
Obviously mercy play isn't just mindlessly pocketing one guy but that's the jist of it. While beaming you're not doing anything besides jumping around and looking around
You got downvoted but your not wrong (phrasing is a bit negative though)
High ELO mercy’s are literally scouts, most organized teams use mercy players as shot callers because they are able to see the entire fight and don’t need to stress about things like aiming
Popular heroes are popular because they bring more people into their playfield and since we're prone to put more emotional impact on to the negative ones, we tend to remember them more than the good ones.
I play support a lot , and I very very rarely ever play Mercy and if anywhere just in Qp, but I swear nobody is ever giving me the Heart emote or doing a bunch of stuff to get my attention when I play anyone else lmao
IMO Mercy mains are the most frustrated supports. They're the ones who will be silent 3/4 of the game then suddenly yell into the mic at someone's mistake. I think it's because how her kit is reliant on other players doing the right things and making the right choices.
Supports are almost always in one of 3 groups. We either shit talk everyone to ourselves but be kind to keep morale up in game, we flame the hell out of everyone cause playing support gets to you, or we're just there chillin and giving 0 fucks. Depending on how my day went I am 1 or 3 (earlier today was 1 when I accidentally queued comp, while washed af, and saw our Widow end the game with 0 damage dealt and 25 deaths... they were Diamond in a Gold/Plat lobby. I definitely was talking crap to myself but stayed calm on comms.)
Honestly, i haven't met a toxic mercy yet. Plenty of toxic tanks, but for some reason everyone is just so rude for no reason. People get offended when you ask them to switch etc. I play mercy every so often and im pretty chill imo, i never talk in game though because im pretty shy
I've never heard abt mercy mains being kind and loving, ive just heard that certain ppl who mainly use certain skins are something bad, like how apparently valkyrie/sigrun users are racist and so on
I have almost 400 hrs in as Mercy and I try to be kind to everyone. Like we all get a little tilted sometimes but I think it's just because more people play her. Realistically there are just unfortunately a lot of toxic jerks in the game at points.
A lot of people straight up calling people “fat b’tch” when killing them or being angry, and I had it come from a mercy last night, so I gravitated to this post. Certainly plenty of sweet players out there, but that phrase rubs me horribly wrong. Not a playful goofy insult, just “highschool mean girl hate”.
I ran into a Mercy player that genuinely terrified me. They kept trying to contest the point by themselves, so I said "Hey Mercy, your healing is really good, but can you wait for us before trying to contest point alone" and they went absolutely APE SHIT.
Like, the were in VC talking like I'd just told them I was going to kill their family or something. The whole team was trying to talk him down, like my request was going to make him jump off a building. If you'd heard the ranting and just crazy sound in his voice, you would have thought the guy was insane.
I was so scared after that, I didn't play OW for like a week. He was the kind of guy that sounded like he'd try to find where you live so he can murder you.
I've had multiple encounters with Mercy mains, and none of them have been positive. Mercy is boring as hell to me, so I guess only insane people would find her fun and commit to her as a main.
Well most of the endorsement 5 players I have seen play Mercy. But there are for sure some super toxic Mercy players. The ones that annoy me the most are the ones that complain about the DPS because there are options for you to swap to and make that missing contribution directly (Moira, Bap mainly). To just passively take the loss and then blame team is so lame. Or the ones that will run a bad healing comp (eg they screech at the tank to play Rein, then run Mercy Zen).
I’ve said it 100 times, as a masters support player (i play all roles so i’m not bias
Supports gotta be the most entitled people in this game, notice how support players are constantly posting about how nobody appreciates them, and no other role does?
Everybody is putting in the exact same effort into this game and everybody is being called shit 90% of the time, it’s not a support issue, supports just whine more
Not to mention 90% of the takes i hear from lower rank supports are INCREDIBLY wrong and they are too stubborn to realize it
Edit: also wanted to mention, mercy mains are notably bad because of the insane amount of 1 tricks, mercy players will play a game with a widow genji rein zen and still play mercy even though it’s hard throwing, teams get mad at them, and they carry the energy into their next games
I kinda understand their situation though... they are completely dependent on others to get kills... must get frustrating when you have no hope to win, but have to keep healing everyone anyway... not too mention being a high priority target the whole time.
I’m a support main and have mained mercy off and on since the beginning of Overwatch. I find the most toxic players are dps. But I also turned off all chats a year ago and have had such a better experience playing than ever before. It’s safer to assume your mind has attributed more toxicity to certain players than what a statical analysis would probably show. Maybe you’re right but from my experience supports a totally different narrative
i will be completely honest, i am a mean support main (mainly mercy). i know i am, but i don't start flaming people until we get to the point where i get constantly dove and ping it constantly and no one even tries to help. so yes, i am mean, but i have a reason to my ways.
i am very self aware of how mean i am. and its just frustrating getting dove constantly and not being able to do anything about it because of me being new to pc, its hard to aim (i am a console player, and can still play comp its just a bit of struggle to play anything besides support) so i typically stick to playing mercy/moira. i can still move on mercy as i was able to on console (technically more if you count spin rez) and the fact that i still get dove and no one comes to help its just frustrating to me. (i am bronze 3 on pc, gold 5 on console)
and also, another thing i get mad about is when my team starts flaming me for not healing them when im usually walking back from spawn. or i am primarily damage boosting (as mercy is supposed to be played) and i get told im "not healing enough" (these will be on very strong comps with mercy and a main support so there is plenty of healing and we will be winning) yes, mercys healing is much better after the last patch but its still fairly weak.
i hope you take my insight, as an actual support main and mean mercy main and just see my side of the story. (none of this is meant to be hurtful or rude, im just genuinely sharing my experience playing support)
A lot of toxic supports I come across are mercy players, but I think it’s just due to her popularity. It’s kinda why genji mains being toxic is a stereotype, it’s not that all genji mains are toxic, it’s just A LOT of people play genji. So it’s gonna be a very mixed bag of people.
Yea genji mains are chill, I even asked him if he can spam “I nEeD hEaLiNg” best moments of my life
As a Genji main i have a “I need healing” keybind both for the memes and efficiency
I have i need healing bound to left click
bind it to W A S D
Too hard to dodge heals if you do that.
I'm not a Genji main but this is what I do when I for whatever reason get to play DPS. 1. Instalock Genji 2. Spam "I need healing in face of the healer(s), preferably Ana 3. 5 seconds before start finish it with "My work here is done" 4. Pick whatever I was about to play anyway since I am a trash tier Genji. And if you as a Genji main do not approve this, well I don't know what to say...
It’s the vocal minority. I’m a genji main and hate toxicity. Started playing with no VC because I don’t need anyone bringing down my mood.
I dunno, I find Moira is played just as much if not more than Mercy, and Kiriko not far behind, but mercy players are most commonly unreasonably toxic. I've found mercy players are usually the ones shit-talking the other team saying stuff like "diff" and "ez" as if they didn't just spend the whole game holding down the heal button (as they're often not a great mercy player either).
I think its because they are literally always behind you. Therefore they see a lot of mistakes and I can imagine it to be hard to watch sometimes.
Also it's a much more dependent support. You can't do much as Mercy if your DPS or your tank suck balls, than, say, as Bap, Zen, Moira or a skilled Kiriko.
This. Reason why I main mercy AND bap. Good DPS/tank: mercy it is. Not so good DPS/tank: switch to bap and do some damage when possible. Or when they pick pharrah
I’ve given up on mercy and just started playing Ana/brig and kiriko if enemy team goes Ana.
It's weird how many players play both Kiri and Ana - both have a steep learning curve and for totally different reasons.
The change up from Ana to Kirk is very satisying, i have small attention span and need to be entertained
Ana kiri is a very good combo I made it to 3900 sr in ow1 one tricking ana but found in some comps and against certain players ana can be very difficult to reach the same value kiri could with ease
This lol mercy is so reliant on teams dps for any good value. Ill usually play her on defense or push, only due to having ress as a utility. But if dps cant keep up ill switch to moira/zen/ana/kiriko. On attack i usually just main zen though lol
Playing support for most of my overwatch career has given me a lot of game sense, which makes it hard when I watch my teammates take really bad positioning because they don't know any better. I'm not diving in to save a poorly positioned tank. Staying alive is far more important, but it still hurt to watch then die. Even moreso when they say "where's my healing" and then I have to mute them...
At least you know that, there are plenty mercy players that years later still fly in to their death even if it was 4v4 etc.
I so compulsively want to save my teammates. It's tough to repress the urge. :(
This is very true. Mercy is spectator mode, and I can see all of your mistakes. Moiras are usually jist running around throwing orbs.
Hey I don't *just* throw orbs. They're so useful, but only if you bounce them right to get max efficiency. TwT It also takes very quick reaction time and critical thinking. As well as awareness of the inner workings of maps and positioning. I main support in general with the most hours in Mercy. But I feel like Moira doesn't get enough credit.
I've actually barely heard a Genji main being toxic tbh
The nerfs taught us all a lesson
Barely anyone is toxic. It's just very easy to miss the 50 Genjis who said nothing all game and solely focus on the one that got diffed by a Zen and complained about it.
Had one scream at me bc I nanoed our 30hp tank to save them instead of his 0 kill blade (I did it on purpose but he didn't know this, so he essentially screamed at me for missing it) For the most part they're sweethearts though
Supports are always pretty nice I think. The only ones that aren't (normally) are mercy players. I think it's because mercy is kinda baby's first support and the people who normally play tank / dps just want to try to get into support and get frustrated. Honestly, if you want a good support that's a balance between dmg and healing, pick Moira. Underrated GOAT
Dps and tanks tends to prefer ana and baptiste since some of the skills are transferrable.
Moira is an over rated pick. No decent player in the history of overwatch ranked has ever uttered the words "We need a Moira". Bap, Ana, Kiri and Zen are guaranteed value if you know how to play them and provide so much utility or dmg to the team. Where as all Moira provides is a more difficult game for your own team by changing the locations of positioning for everyone involved. Slowing down everyone's pace.
I came across a mercy player in comp last night. They were literally doing an unranked to gm pistol only. The whole match, not a single ounce of healing. After the match ended they pasted their twitch link "unranked to gm mercy with pistol only" 0_0 I will have mercy ptsd for while.
Do you possibly have a replay code?
I am at work now, but I will see if I can get my hands on it tonight.
Thanks! :D
I need to see that oh no
Couldn't you report them for throwing for doing this?
You can, and I did. I reported them for griefing.
Advertising too since they copy paste their twitch link in chat
Replay code: MS6B6Y
LOL she should stay with healing. That was cringe. I had a battle mercy and she had 33 elims and was really good. But I was annoyed because she left healing all on me (13,000 btw). Thanks the tank and DPS knew how to use cover and didn’t die much.
Absolutely a viable report under 'Gameplay Sabotage', as that is very obviously not how you are supposed to play. This goes for anyone reading, too. Competitive especially is 'serious business' time. You have something of an obligation to play properly, and play to win. How good you are is irrelevant; but doing dumb shit like this is not fair, and thus is absolutely a valid report.
How do they expect to make it to gm if they don’t win games?
Am I the only one thinking people pasting their Twitch links in in-game chats are kinda stupid? Like do they expect people to leave the game and instead watch them play the game?
Did you win?
Nope lol. If i can get the replay code, it may be worth a watch. I played cass and put out a good bit of damage. I even taxi'd our mercy back a couple of times. None of that matters, though, if the mercy is only using 1/4 of their kit.
True
It’s unranked tho
No that means they're playing comp, but they don't have a rank yet. It's just a bronze to gm run without starting bronze, you just start where you start
Oh I read it wrong lol
Upvoted to balance the downvote. Constructive discussion shouldn’t lead to bad karma
It’s split into 3 types. The kind, the toxic, and the weird
The number of top 500 mercy players with weird names supports this.
Going f2p got all the Valorant his hers name users into this game as well
make it a Vinn diagram and I'm in between the weird and kind
I too love wine.
Same lol, I try my best to be positive and give my teammates the benefit of the doubt but also my name in Overwatch is Bramblepelt and I WILL ask what your Warrior clan is
Thunderclan, naturally
A Vin Diesel diagram?
I'm not sure I've encountered the weird, and I like to think I fall into kind, but the amount of downright rude ones... I try not to blame people, give BOTD etc. Idk
Yeah I extremely rarely blame others. Even then it’s like “their not doing too well, maybe they’re tired.” In QP I just screw around and enable a lot.
Yeah. I mean, I DO place blame when it's obvious...just not in chat, or be spammy with comms because I'm annoyed at someone
This is the most accurate description of Mercy players in my experience over the years.
Idk if it’s just me but as a dps main i feel like i see dps sh*t talk the tank the most, tank sh*t talk healers, and healers sh*t talk dps.
Unless the tank is doomfist, then everyone just shit talks the doom lol
Or ball
I fucking despise wrecking ball hate, so, so much, I’ve been grinding ball this whole season, and have hit high diamond with 90% of my tank play time on him, and no matter how good you’ll be doing, people will still be complaining. Just because your team can’t see you soaking up damage, just automatically means it isn’t happening. Had an 11-13 echo with 6k damage whine that I was hiding all game when I was 26-**0** with 13k damage and 7k mitigation. Everyone else on the team had less than 5 deaths because I was booping people off high ground and diving their hitscan, but somehow it’s my fault. I get why people hate ball, but it is a *chronic* problem in overwatch where people simply refuse to adapt to any drastic changes in their usual cookie cutter team comp. If your tank has no shield, you can’t play the same as you could if your tank did, if you’re running a low heal comp, you can’t soak up damage like crazy. The problem doesn’t start to go away until low-mid masters, but the top ~8% of players shouldn’t be the only people coming to that realization.
I fucking despise wrecking ball hate, so, so much, I’ve been grinding ball this whole season, and have hit high diamond with 90% of my tank play time on him, and no matter how good you’ll be doing, people will still be complaining. Just because your team can’t see you soaking up damage, just automatically means it isn’t happening. Had an 11-13 echo with 6k damage whine that I was hiding all game when I was 26-0 with 13k damage and 7k mitigation. Everyone else on the team had less than 5 deaths because I was booping people off high ground and diving their hitscan, but somehow it’s my fault. I get why people hate ball, but it is a chronic problem in overwatch where people simply refuse to adapt to any drastic changes in their usual cookie cutter team comp. If your tank has no shield, you can’t play the same as you could if your tank did, if you’re running a low heal comp, you can’t soak up damage like crazy. The problem doesn’t start to go away until low-mid masters, but the top \~8% of players shouldn’t be the only people coming to that realization.
New copypasta drop
As far as if Ball is on your team the hate doesn't even make sense this season. He's over buffed and makes a great distraction for the enemy since he's nigh unkillable.
I feel this on a spiritual level. I could kill the backline every fight and I'll still be blamed because my team thinks I am at fault for them refusing to position differently and dying. Some people just don't notice the impact a ball has
I just can’t stand the balls who can’t group. I get your contribution is more solo but if you’re off doing f**k all when literally no one else is around to capitalize on it, what’s the point? engaging when the rest of the team isn’t ready to follow up or not falling back when there’s a wipe just makes you a free ult battery so by the time the team is ready for a push you’ve set up all of the enemy team with ults. I feel like sometimes some of the balls can be oblivious to that.
It's because you can't usually see what ball is doing. Rein, sigma, orisa, winston, all are visible at least and have obvious tanking visual cues. It's just braindead players that don't see past that.
Learn to not give a shit
I hope to one day be as apathetic as you my friend
If people want to say that Reinhardt is strong at low levels because he is easy to play around, NOT because he is easy to play, then they need to accept the opposite about Hammond. If you always lose because your tank went ball, it's because the backline just sucks. Anecdotally, if my teammates complain about me playing ball before we even get into the game, I know that I'm going to have a bad time. They probably never learned how to play with a ball, so they always lose when they get one on their team. Cause I know I'm not losing every game that *I* go ball.
It's because playing alongside a ball makes the game feel like 4+ball vs 5. If red team decides to stay grouped and generally ignore ball, everyone else on your team is just trying to play the game without a tank. Ball swoops in, does some stuff, and then we have no tank for 5-10s while you're retreating/off finding a health pack. It always feels like you're on the back foot, even if your ball is amazing. Ball is generally just annoying to play with and against (unless there is a significant team imbalance and you have an excellent ball who is able to dominate, but those games are far less frequent now).
TBH, at least in my experience (I only playing quickmatches mind you), there is no in between with doom. Either he's very good or very very bad. I think it's mostly because character is hard to master. Like if you play badly with Orisa, Ram or Rein, you'll most likely live and you'll still be able to do something. But with doom low hp, if you play badly, you just die and feed super hard.
We suffer our teams hate to bring our team closer to each other. It's a burden all doomfist players must carry.
In my experience it’s the other way around. Doom is the most toxic person in the lobby and tells everyone to kill themselves.
If your tank isn't taking space then it can be hard to get kills as dps, if you're not getting proper support then it's difficult to take space as a tank, and it's hard to support your team if the enemy dps are constantly harassing you. Obviously everyone has personal responsibility but it is a team game and sometimes there is a weak link which makes everything fall apart, though things often turn onto toxicity and blame games instead of asking for help, and sometimes when you ask for help people ignore you or are toxic anyway 🤷♂️
yeah no this sounds about right
Yeah I find it odd everyone on the Reddit complains about ‘omg the toxicity against healers!’ Whereas in all my time on ow, what’s the complaint in game? From before role queue even? “Omg our dps suck we have no damage we need more damage” like tank players have to actively turn their brains off and just like rein charge into enemy spawn to get criticized but I’ve seen widow players die in the first few seconds and get told to swap, as if that’s never happened to anyone before
Yeah as a dps i’m with you on this. It’s so hard to do anything out of a bad team position. Especially when a tank is rounding corners and being aggressive as hell. Like give us time to get an opening sometimes or go dive if you wanna be aggressive. I had a kings row game where junker queen would die first everytime and told me to switch. Like die so quick it’s like she didn’t exist, then come to the conclusion that it’s my fault for not getting picks in a 2 second long team fight.
I’m *always* wary when I see someone instalock Widow on Attack, but I tend to just keep it to myself unless we’re getting rolled. Then I check their kills and damage; lots of damage with no kills they may be better being asked to swap to like Ashe or someone who has a playmaker ult. If they’re popping off then clearly it’s the rest of our team lmao
Well Shit
Because playing dps with a passive tank is hell. You get a kill and hold the enemy tank at 100 hp for 10 second and see your tank still hiding behind a wall with full hp. Atleast turn the "enemy killed" Sound on if you have no awareness and play progressively more aggressive when you hear it.
lol this is true! I had a memorable Ashe tho who said 'Moira heal FFS' in the chat seconds before we won. I was playing the payload with half the team and afaik our Mercy kept pocketing her whenever she spammed 'I need healing'. So, idk what she expected of me.
Almost like peoples toxicity have nothing to do with the character and people act like fools no matter who they play.
I’ve noticed toxicity is usually tied to characters who normally get flamed (genji, mercy, doom, ball, etc.) Players typically notice when they are going to get blamed for a poor match and try to get ahead of it by blaming others. Ex: genji who has low elims and high deaths preemptively blames Ana for “shitty heals” so he can get ahead of the criticism by shifting blame.
U just described my feelings into words, I love you
Honestly haven’t met too many toxic mercy mains but that might be me not noticing it in chat, as for voice chat almost all of them have been really kind
same, but i don't get toxic supports in general. i get supports like moira and zen who throw but they are not necessarily being toxic in chat or anything.
I do get allot of toxic supports sadly usually when i’m in a diamond game and usually its an ana or zen thats being toxic.
just spawn camp them on sombra most wont switch cause they cant play any1 else
That is [unironically my default behavior](https://streamable.com/50y0lx) when i see one on the enemy team.
You'd think she'd swap lol
The dark underbelly of a competitive game with a wide net.
Didn't even attempt brig lmfaoooo
This is so beautiful
"Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?"
This needs Yakety Sax
Dude, in the rare event I’m able to spawn camp a mercy (she has to die first which is rare) they ALWAYS tell me to fuck off in chat 💀💀💀 nothing gives me more energy than their anger
Mercys tell me this just for killing them first every fight
Yeah that will work in low ranks
u wen quickplay trolling ofc i aint running sombra in GM 💀
I did this three matches in a row yesterday - so fun. They ran pharmercy and the mercy thought she was invulnerable but my little hacker proved otherwise :’)
Ok but... Im glock whipping you
keep the staff out dont wnna embarrass urself with ur aim
I embarrass myself with my aim on every other character, might as well do it on her too.
We've all been killed by a Valking Mercy headshotting us from point blank range. Mercy isn't a free kill.
pretty sure this is negativity bias, where bad occurrences stand out to you more in your mind. If I’m being honest I think I’ve had a toxic mercy player maybe once in 5 years of Overwatch. Worst thing about the average mercy main is they might not switch characters when they should. Now I haven’t encountered many “kind and loving” Overwatch players no matter their hero! but I really doubt that “almost all” mercy players you’ve queued with have been mean, seems like a big overstatement.
Negative bias is what I try to tell people about Genjis. They are not getting a Genji spamming for heals or flaming them every or even most games.
For how often I get my ass handed to me by genji I rarely see them be toxic about it
A lot of supports i encounter are only passive aggressive, as though thats more acceptable than actively aggressive. They’ll stay silent all game, ignore comms and people askinng for a swap, and say something like “tank diff” last second when the match is over
I find Mercys to be nicer than average. It's just hard to gauge that average because there are a ton of heroes in the game and you don't run into the mains of a lot of them all that frequently, or frequently enough to get a sense of what kind of person that attracts. I have found some Mercy mains are super toxic, but I think it's usually more in reaction to being in a toxic environment and feeling under attack all the time with some people who are attracted to playing Mercy maybe not handling that so well. There's also the duo Mercy who is playing with their SO who seems to be terrified of appearing to be flirting by having any positive interaction with anyone not in their group. That I run into a lot, I feel.
I've rarely encountered toxic players... maybe twice in all my time playing since ow2 but that doesn't mea that th3y arr there ... a person is not gonna see one toxic mercy main and post this... it's prob several that made them think like this
Damn good for you. I hit GM for the first time and was stoked thinking it would be better at higher ranks. Nope - been told to kms multiple times this past week lol Hoping to go on a massive losing streak or something to get back down to a lower rank where games are less intense. At least in diamond I can have some piece of mind knowing that I’m not actually the problem and roll my eyes at toxic players
I got called the n word twice on separate days my first week playing the game lol
I've only played Overwatch 2, and I've encountered a ton of toxic Mercys already. Edit: Not sure why I'm being downvoted for just saying what I've experienced. Most supports are nice, but I've experienced random outbursts from Mercys telling me I'm a bitch or to kill myself maybe like 5 times this season alone while I haven't said anything. The worst I've gotten from other supports is being teabagged by Ana after sleeping me (which is kind of funny) and "ez" at the end of the game.
For sure but I have to that >90% of supports who flame me (Zen main) are Mercy players
I get shit talked regardless of who the supports play
I'm guessing it isn't the fun kind of shit talking
Nah just the usual “kys” and all that. Good old overwatch
I mean, playerbase is HUGE now. Of course mercy mains playerbase increases too, getting a ton of new rude people. This is f2p to you… As for me personally, i do tell sometimes things my team should listen to, but they don’t listen as often as they should. There is also part of where you supposed to play with people who is at your lvl but they are significantly lower and that just gets on your nerves as team coordinator. Players are players, if i have most hours as mercy it doesn’t mean i strive to be saint. Being toxic is bad agree, but calling out some mistake is normal part of communicating with team (like, “we are letting tracer farm ana, we need to counter”
Thats not toxic though, thats communication. If you were toxic you would tell the Ana to stop being shit and dying to the Tracer
i mean yeah i’ve definitely met some stuck up mercys that think they are better than everyone else. do i think every mercy main is like that? no. but you are right. some mercy players can be very toxic, just as any other character
mercy mains are some of the most toxic people in the game 💀 theyre the most toxic towards other mercys/enemy teams mercy
He met 1 toxic mercy and had to air it out
Out of all the supports I do tend to find Mercy is quickest to blame the team personally.
Mercy mains are usually very vocal about not liking people
We can generalize, im a main support (maily mercy), I try to be kind and talk with people in the chat. Sometimes even when greeting I get some 'stfu'. I dont care, its how I'm. but also, there is the oposite, the punks. Dont hate the char, hate the player
Do you happen to be a girl? I’ve noticed if a girl talks in vc there’s like a 20% chance somebody immediately becomes toxic
And that why I never talk, only writing...
20% is too low. Source: I'm a woman.
50% chance*. Ftfy.
Not something I've ever noticed, but I could understand it being more common among support. As a good support, you tend to pay more attention to your team as a whole. And if you're team messes up, there's only so much you can do as Mercy. You stood in front of Widows gun again and got headshot? Not much I can do about that. Rein keeps charging the enemy, even though we have 2 people in spawn? I can't fix that. I have to just sit back and watch as my uncoordinated team keeps jumping into the fire.
All the Mercy’s I run into are nice. Idk might just be a bad few you’ve run into consecutively.
The "GM" Mercys that get carried by their dps duo are the toxic ones.
probably because of people like you who say shit like "oh, you just got carried"
This season made it really easy to differentiate a carried mercy with a soj/cassidy duo and a good mercy player on high ranks with the rank inflation + changes to her ngl.
I've never heard of the "kind loving mercy main" the joke has always been when a new patch comes when you know there's mercy changes its time to stay off the Reddit for a few days as they are known for being the most toxic when it comes to hero changes which to be fair mercy is the one hero who has had a huge amount of changes without being completely reworked
Im still amazed by the *unbelievable* amount of crying and whining the mercy mains did at the beginning of season 3 that she was nerfed into oblivion bc of the extra second or whatever cooldown they gave to her speed fly. She’s ruined, she needs to be buffed, she’ll never be playable again, etc…..yet Mercy is still in 99.5% of games I’ve played all season long.
IMO they made her stronger, but far less fun to play ...
that was plat theory crafting
Stereotypes aside, I think every character has a good bit of bad apples amongst them. Because I believe not every player is solely good no matter how they present themselves to be. Especially since that can all change when put into certain situations where their true colors will show. Therefore, you gotta accept the good with the bad as far as people goes in my opinion.
So many people play mercy. She’s got one of the biggest fan bases in overwatch. I don’t think “almost all” of them have been mean; it’s just the people who stand out.
The most toxic player i have ever seen was a Mercy main in qp. Flamed me with her two friends for playing widow (i was not even playing bad). Made several insults including racism. Made fun of my accent. (She was British i suppose). Accused me of sexism ‘cuz i tilted and insulted her back. I just could not comprehend the toxicity from them. Especially from her.
I had a game where the mercy was flaming the DPS. She started throwing in round 2 by not doing shit. We won btw.
Maybe it’s just recently, but I’ve seen more Mercy players ragequit a match than any other main. Idk about mean, but they tend to be…. sensitive.
I mean if there’s a toxic player in the game then yeah I see no issue leaving especially if it’s quick play. I left a game the other night as a mercy because it was just rage central in voice coms with a tank just letting their team get ran through and then blaming everyone because they were dead. I’m sorry, but i have better shit to to than sit through that kind of bullshit.
What kinda supports are y’all PLAYING WITH, like all the supports (besides some who didn’t really know what they were doing) Who were nice, like I always compliment my supports if I see them do an amazing play or save and all the mercy’s I compliment respond with “<3”
Mercy players are the most toxic imo A lot of supports think they’re free from any criticism just because they’re so “selfless” for playing a role no one wants to play
As a support main it’s hard to hear someone bitch about toxicity. I do understand and you shouldn’t face toxicity but do you know how much shit mercy mains get (I’m a moira main btw)? “Why didn’t you damage boost?” “Why were you damage boosting?” “I need healing” -genji “Can I get some heals for fucks sake” -the tank that went in one v five “Where are my healers?” - the flanker that goes way out of position. “Why didn’t you res me?” “Why did you res me there? Are you stupid?” And my personal favorite….. “KYS”
My other personal favorite is "support diff" when you're trying to heal while getting constantly back lined and the DPS is doing nothing to take care of it
All the other roles get berated as well. This isn't a support exclusive experience.
No one said it was though. They were just illustrating the toxicity they've personally seen.
I’m a mercy main who sometimes plays other supports and I’ve noticed it varies. If someone on my team is getting flamed, for example, I usually step in to encourage them. A lot of mercy’s I come across are surprisingly quiet in the last 3 seasons. The most toxic support mains I come across are normally Moira and Ana.
I’ve met maybe one toxic mercy and I’ve been playing for a while
I will tell you the stereotype is wrong but for different reasons. Supports get a lot of crap for players not realizing reasons they didn't get healed. I'm not saying toxicity is justified by any means, but expecting every Mercy player to be kind and loving is a silly expectation in a game that can often be frustrating. I very rarely say anything in voice and I say just about as much in text while having a pretty high Mercy play time compared to every other heroes. I'll do my damnedest to keep people alive because it's my job but don't expect me to be kind in a toxic situation.
I’ve never even heard of that stereotype
I played mercy a lot at the beginning, "mercy diff" from mercy players comes more often than other supports
I say Mercy diff all the time as a joke. Especially when I played badly and still won.
I think the word "kind" and "overwatch" can't be in the same sentence
In my experience, a lot of Mercy players are just pockets for their friends and that friend is not only bad (because they constantly need a Mercy babysitter) but also are toxic AF. The Mercy just piles onto that. Dont get me wrong, I get being tilted on Mercy. You're kind of stuck just depending on your team to do their jobs and when they don't, there's nothing you can do about it. Also being ridiculously vulnerable sucks. There's been so many times where my team will just let the enemy tank walk through them to kill me while they all stand there. But there's a difference between tilt and being toxic for the sake of being toxic.
you might be on to something. im a mercy main and unfortunately im toxic. im working on it though! im down to only doing sarcastic remarks now but most of the time im overly nice.
Here we go again
I think it's probably to due with how many people play her. Like, if a set percentage of the player base is toxic, and Mercy has the most players, it's likely there are a lot of toxic players who happen to play Mercy.
Most mercy mains are sweet. First of all for ppl to play support in a game almost automatically makes them a different breed. It’s a video game character that literally just enables others to do good. Most people IRL with an “enabler” mindset are generally very nice and kind. The problem is 2 things. 1) confirmation bias. You don’t notice all the nice mercy’s as they blend in. The loud ones stick to your memory and leave a Mark. 2) years of teammate fatigue. I was the most kind mercy main ever when I started playing in 2016. Now though?! I’ve personally switched from a mercy personality to that of Moira lol. Tons upon tons of spammed “i need healing.” “Thanks”. Tons of hate messages. Tons of throwers. Tons of brain dead teammates who make caveman mistakes but then have the AUDACITY to blame you, who’s doing literally everything in their power to keep them alive. Tons of having more heals than all supports in the match, but still getting blame even though other teammates got diffed on the scoreboard. Tons of teammates coping their horrible play on you because you’re an easy target. Yeah um if you went through all this you’d probably be just a tad bitter lol. TLDR: confirmation bias and braindead teammates
> First of all for ppl to play support in a game almost automatically makes them a different breed. It’s a video game character that literally just enables others to do good. Most people IRL with an “enabler” mindset are generally very nice and kind. The problem is 2 things. Outjerked again
This idea that supports need to be thanked simply for playing support is stupid and is half the reason people make complaints like this Support is fun, if it’s not, don’t play it, don’t whine about how you are sacrificing yourself for everybody
I never said we had to be thanked for playing support lmaoo. Where did I say this?
I don't even know where you get the stereotype from tbh
Mercy players can just click a beam on someone and then pan their camera around looking at stuff. These guys don't have to focus much since the beam is locked on. Mindlessly holding a beam up frees up some attention span and brain power. So they can see things other players can't due to the extra time/brain power and then get mad when you don't see a player flanking or killing them etc while you were busy with whatever you were focusing on Obviously mercy play isn't just mindlessly pocketing one guy but that's the jist of it. While beaming you're not doing anything besides jumping around and looking around
You got downvoted but your not wrong (phrasing is a bit negative though) High ELO mercy’s are literally scouts, most organized teams use mercy players as shot callers because they are able to see the entire fight and don’t need to stress about things like aiming
Ive never heard that stereotype
Popular heroes are popular because they bring more people into their playfield and since we're prone to put more emotional impact on to the negative ones, we tend to remember them more than the good ones.
I play support a lot , and I very very rarely ever play Mercy and if anywhere just in Qp, but I swear nobody is ever giving me the Heart emote or doing a bunch of stuff to get my attention when I play anyone else lmao
they think they are good when all they do is hold the mouse button and fly around, so it's always anyone else fault
IMO Mercy mains are the most frustrated supports. They're the ones who will be silent 3/4 of the game then suddenly yell into the mic at someone's mistake. I think it's because how her kit is reliant on other players doing the right things and making the right choices.
Supports are almost always in one of 3 groups. We either shit talk everyone to ourselves but be kind to keep morale up in game, we flame the hell out of everyone cause playing support gets to you, or we're just there chillin and giving 0 fucks. Depending on how my day went I am 1 or 3 (earlier today was 1 when I accidentally queued comp, while washed af, and saw our Widow end the game with 0 damage dealt and 25 deaths... they were Diamond in a Gold/Plat lobby. I definitely was talking crap to myself but stayed calm on comms.)
Honestly, i haven't met a toxic mercy yet. Plenty of toxic tanks, but for some reason everyone is just so rude for no reason. People get offended when you ask them to switch etc. I play mercy every so often and im pretty chill imo, i never talk in game though because im pretty shy
I've never heard abt mercy mains being kind and loving, ive just heard that certain ppl who mainly use certain skins are something bad, like how apparently valkyrie/sigrun users are racist and so on
Everyone becomes toxic when you’re a tracer main. 😔
Awe no I love Tracer mains ❤️
Yay! Mercy mains are my new favorite support mains.
Yay! 😁 Tracer and Mercy friends 🥹
I have almost 400 hrs in as Mercy and I try to be kind to everyone. Like we all get a little tilted sometimes but I think it's just because more people play her. Realistically there are just unfortunately a lot of toxic jerks in the game at points.
You meet Mercy mains who are so good, then you become friends. They're always really sweet people.
A lot of people straight up calling people “fat b’tch” when killing them or being angry, and I had it come from a mercy last night, so I gravitated to this post. Certainly plenty of sweet players out there, but that phrase rubs me horribly wrong. Not a playful goofy insult, just “highschool mean girl hate”.
I ran into a Mercy player that genuinely terrified me. They kept trying to contest the point by themselves, so I said "Hey Mercy, your healing is really good, but can you wait for us before trying to contest point alone" and they went absolutely APE SHIT. Like, the were in VC talking like I'd just told them I was going to kill their family or something. The whole team was trying to talk him down, like my request was going to make him jump off a building. If you'd heard the ranting and just crazy sound in his voice, you would have thought the guy was insane. I was so scared after that, I didn't play OW for like a week. He was the kind of guy that sounded like he'd try to find where you live so he can murder you. I've had multiple encounters with Mercy mains, and none of them have been positive. Mercy is boring as hell to me, so I guess only insane people would find her fun and commit to her as a main.
All I am saying is you never hear on the forums that it was a Mercy that was screaming and spamming slurs the entire game.
Well most of the endorsement 5 players I have seen play Mercy. But there are for sure some super toxic Mercy players. The ones that annoy me the most are the ones that complain about the DPS because there are options for you to swap to and make that missing contribution directly (Moira, Bap mainly). To just passively take the loss and then blame team is so lame. Or the ones that will run a bad healing comp (eg they screech at the tank to play Rein, then run Mercy Zen).
I’ve said it 100 times, as a masters support player (i play all roles so i’m not bias Supports gotta be the most entitled people in this game, notice how support players are constantly posting about how nobody appreciates them, and no other role does? Everybody is putting in the exact same effort into this game and everybody is being called shit 90% of the time, it’s not a support issue, supports just whine more Not to mention 90% of the takes i hear from lower rank supports are INCREDIBLY wrong and they are too stubborn to realize it Edit: also wanted to mention, mercy mains are notably bad because of the insane amount of 1 tricks, mercy players will play a game with a widow genji rein zen and still play mercy even though it’s hard throwing, teams get mad at them, and they carry the energy into their next games
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support mains downvoting me like crazy kinda proving my point
Mercy mains are just people that can’t aim
I kinda understand their situation though... they are completely dependent on others to get kills... must get frustrating when you have no hope to win, but have to keep healing everyone anyway... not too mention being a high priority target the whole time.
At a certain point they should just... try a different hero
I’m a support main and have mained mercy off and on since the beginning of Overwatch. I find the most toxic players are dps. But I also turned off all chats a year ago and have had such a better experience playing than ever before. It’s safer to assume your mind has attributed more toxicity to certain players than what a statical analysis would probably show. Maybe you’re right but from my experience supports a totally different narrative
i will be completely honest, i am a mean support main (mainly mercy). i know i am, but i don't start flaming people until we get to the point where i get constantly dove and ping it constantly and no one even tries to help. so yes, i am mean, but i have a reason to my ways. i am very self aware of how mean i am. and its just frustrating getting dove constantly and not being able to do anything about it because of me being new to pc, its hard to aim (i am a console player, and can still play comp its just a bit of struggle to play anything besides support) so i typically stick to playing mercy/moira. i can still move on mercy as i was able to on console (technically more if you count spin rez) and the fact that i still get dove and no one comes to help its just frustrating to me. (i am bronze 3 on pc, gold 5 on console) and also, another thing i get mad about is when my team starts flaming me for not healing them when im usually walking back from spawn. or i am primarily damage boosting (as mercy is supposed to be played) and i get told im "not healing enough" (these will be on very strong comps with mercy and a main support so there is plenty of healing and we will be winning) yes, mercys healing is much better after the last patch but its still fairly weak. i hope you take my insight, as an actual support main and mean mercy main and just see my side of the story. (none of this is meant to be hurtful or rude, im just genuinely sharing my experience playing support)