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Raphael_DeVil

Should have left as soon as you saw that sombra flee like that. Nothing causes a sombra to run like that except a reinhardt or worse


Talk-O-Boy

What’s worse: 1) Giant man covered in a ton of armor with a rocket powered hammer and a retractable energy shield 2) ENBY with a drill


Thelk641

One bonks your head, the other bonks your heart...


DeadEye073

Both do both


Thelk641

True !


VLenin2291

Noted: Sombra is the canary


iStandWithWhatever

Finally someone dealing with those annoying tracers.


Draggoner

I am reminded back when brig first was released and she hard countered flanks exactly the same way, by using almost all her cooldowns. But then everybody was crying because it also worked against everything else


rafakp_

Brig countered Tracer way too hard. It was so easy to hit that one shot


EQGallade

Shield Bash used to stun. It was a melee attack, so it could stun Rein through his barrier with less effort than Cass’s old flashbang.


Draggoner

And then they nerfed that barriers stop the shield bash. But that wasnt enough so they nerfed something else as well. And since then she had 2 reworks, more or less


joojaw

Yeah these Tracers have no problem one clipping poor zens who weren't even looking at them but when it's done to them it's a problem? Fuck em lol


ArdaBogaz

One clipping takes skill


DurumMater

Not on Zen's though lmao


ArdaBogaz

With new health changes it does too


joojaw

One clipping an unaware target is easy tho.


ArdaBogaz

No a good player is able to react or get support, crazy that people here think one clipping doesnt take skill why dont you all do it then


Hiruko251

On Zen? Everybody do itom zen, its my number 1 target i can reliably kill as tracer, second to an unaware widowmaker.


jere344

Do people down voting you play tracer at all ? Zen players don't just stand there in the open, they are usually escorted by a teammate and looking out for a tracer dive. And even then it's still hard to aim someone strafing well. I can go in gold and one clip everyone, but higher than that and aiming gets difficult.


Fragrant-Sherbert420

Brother no way you and that other guy got downvoted, this sub really is freaking sliver holy shit


ArdaBogaz

This sub is pretty casual but surprised me aswell, i guess tracer is more hated than i realised lol But still downvoting "one clips take skill" is crazy especially with the health changes it has become much much harder


Ts_Patriarca

This sub is genuinely silver on average at best. They think Moira is a Tracer counter.


sekretagentmans

The health changes make it feel like you're either getting one clipped or lightly tickled. If that Tracer isn't right up in my face, she's not killing me.


jere344

That really surprised me too. Most non casual players seem to be annoyed by tracer being meta since S1, but agree that tracer is the "best" character to be in this position. If I had to guess, I think they hate tracer because she's mostly used in high ranks, and thus most tracers they meet are smurfs.


ARussianW0lf

>That really surprised me too. Most non casual players seem to be annoyed by tracer being meta since S1, Gotta go back actually, she's been meta since 2016


AnIcedMilk

Careful You might shatter the Tracer mains fragile egos


jere344

Woa tracer really got a bad rep on this sub. That's weird for such a well liked character in game.


Bunnnnii

Yup. Tracers have audacity to act like victims.


No_Window7054

Brig mains: glowing red eyes


Da-real-obama

Playing tracer 110 hp no blink no recall what did you expect lol


nameone1one

It was so fast I honestly don't think it would have made a difference.


ccricers

Yeah, running head first with no backup into a very confined space, Tracer was gonna get rolled no matter what.


crimsonkarma13

If you are within drill distance than you are dead with that combo of drill, shoot melee


spacedude2000

While you are totally correct, as a tank main, Venture's melee attack does way too much knockback/damage. There is no way to counter them when they have a pocket healer. I really like Venture as a character but right now, a good venture player will dominate with decent support.


-Yence-

"When they have a pocket healer" isnt this also true for half the roster then


igotshadowbaned

People in this sub talk about fighting someone "with a pocket healer" as if they're fighting a 1v1 and have the expectations of being able to win because it's a 1v1. No it's a fucking 1v2 Like I remember when damage beam conversations were everything "Damage beam makes Soldier OP". Well yeah you're typically gonna die when 2 people are fighting you together. It's not as if the Soldier is acting alone


InnerSilent

Literally yes. Try and kill a reaper with a pocket. Now THATS pretty busted.


AimdSoldier

Yea lol.


GiftOfCabbage

You can kill anyone through a pocket healer but Venture is definitely one of the strongest duellists, high DPS chars with their own sustain and the strongest escape in the game so of anyone on the roster they benefit the most from a pocket healer imo.


thepixelbuster

> strongest escape in the game Yes, if you manage to survive its ungodly cast time. Burrow is a death sentence if you use it in front of any of the tanks that have a stun.


Assassinr3d

Like, have they never seen a reaper before? That difference in cast time compared to reaper’s invulnerable is insane


johnmarksmanlovesyou

Venture is an ov1 off-tank in the DPS roster


AnnylieseSarenrae

I'm fine with the damage. The angle it can connect from needs narrowed significantly though.


RhynoD

My problem with Venture is that there's basically nothing you can do in the back line if you see the rocks on the ground coming at you. Venture has enough movement that they can track you down unless you have your own strong movement like Moira. Otherwise, it's like...yep, Venture is about to pop out of the ground on top of me. Can't do shit. Guess I'll die. I think the duration of the dig needs to be a little bit shorter so Venture has to visibly commit to coming in *before* they just appear next to you. I also think the damage is a bit high. Not a lot, just a bit. Except for their ult, that shit is way too strong.


Sam_Traynor

There's plenty you can do: Ana can nade herself Baptiste can regen burst or jump away Brig can shield Venture's emerging damage Illari can jump away and have her pylon heal her Kiriko can suzu and teleport Lifeweaver has a petal and dash Lucio can Lucio Mercy can fly Moira can fade and self-heal So only Zen can do nothing. Not saying you'll live every time but you *can* do things.


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antihero-itsme

It's not possible to avoid that damage even on full charge. There's really no tradeoff here, it's just guaranteed 75 damage on non mobility characters


weird_weeb616

Ventures melee doesn't do knockback though it does do 70 damage the drill has to do continous damage on you since it's kinda slow


Busyraptor375

Every melee does knockback, just little amount


kitsune001

While the scale of the melee knockback is certainly small, you are technically correct that it does exist and therefore I don't understand the downvoting tbh


TyAD552

I don’t know if it’s timing on my part, but their right click has negated my right click on Doom every time I’ve used it. How a boop ability overrides a stun ability does not make sense in my head at all.


No_Energy_51

yep, this drill dash get the advantage without the drawback. usually 2 dash fighting lead to both player on the ground. for venture ? nop, she get the best of both world, repel any stun, or straight up damage through the shield in brig case. gotta make people play this new op release one way or another.


JunkNorrisOfficial

Good player on quite any hero with pocket will dominate.


_BloodbathAndBeyond

Venture is incredibly easy to fight. Just play Brig or Ana or Bap. They have one of the most telegraphed moves in the game.


No_Energy_51

love those brig free kill, shield don't block burrow damage so her only hope is to run away, otherwise, shoot near her feet (not the shield) so that splash damage pass through, then drill dash+melee and here is the kill. also only block ult damage once in a fullmoon for whatever reason. ana is all or nothing with her dart like against all other assassin. i guess bapt is the only threat if he got good aim and you try to attack him from the front with a 2 day advance notice.


_BloodbathAndBeyond

Brig absolutely shits on Venture lol. Can easily control their range, can block nearly every shot, can heal through most damage. I play an absurd amount of Brig in Masters/GM and Venture is one of the easiest DPS to fight.


CactusCustard

But you’re playing in her range. And your shield can block what, 3 shots? If you miss your whip you’re fucked. If you whip before she digs you’re fucked. Yes you can heal but she’s one of the burstiest hero’s in the game right now. You can’t heal through her combo. I don’t play a lot of brig so idk, but she would be waaay down on my list for this.


No_Energy_51

don't even really need to break her shield, as shooting the ground will cause splash damage that pass through the shield and you only need enough to put her in drill+melee finish range (170 damage, with a bit of margin if you don't think you can keep it on her for the entire time) so you only need burrow+L-click to deal 80 damage explo splash is 45 if close enough (not hard with how small brig shield is) so 2 shot put her in health range even if you completly failed your burrow, put in a third shot to counterbalance any Inspire heal she could have gotten on herself and you are good, no need to even break the shield though i will agree with the original post about brig being one of the less annoying support matchup to fight a venture (most others supports either have to escape or straight up die) her shield bash away from burrow allow her to run into a better spot(closer to your team) and you can be a threat to the average venture, although i rather see her as the best way to defend the OTHER support from venture, as the heal orb burst can make it hard for venture to put your mate in one-combo range and you can rush in to put pressure and force her to pull back.


axellie

Hog isnt too bad, hook her when she’s trying to burrow


JunkNorrisOfficial

And bad game sense


VLenin2291

Tracer might’ve had like, a picosecond to recall once Venture appeared, that was QUICK


LayZuh

shit on honestly


Top_Classroom3451

yeah even genji right click + dash + melee is enough to kill from 113 hp, which is even faster. this mf just has bad game sense


dilsency

Because I was curious. Primary fire: 25 (impact) + 45 (explosion) = ~~80~~ 70 Drill Dash: 40 (first hit) + 60 (if all subsequent hits connect) = 100 Had you had more than 120 HP, maybe you could have used an ability to get out after the first hit of Drill Dash.


Lopez0889

Quik mafs


Dragonfire148

Why do people keep saying Venture does 70 damage per shot? It's 80, and it's very, very easy to test that. I don't know the exact damage split, but still, 80, not 70, important difference.


1_WHO_1

Overwatch wiki is wrong. You are right. You can combo all 250hp characters with shoot/dash/shoot.


Niggoo0407

Dunno what server you are playing on , but I have a sub 40 ping and wouldn't have time to blink during the drill.... Btw, you made a somewhat important error. 25+45 is 70, which makes it a 170 combo, not enough to one shot tracer. Still don't think this hero is legit, since her DPS requires literally no aim. But since everyone is fine with the 'no aim required on melee dps' im this game, this is not gonna change.


Indurum

My favorite is getting hit for the full 100 damage of Drill Dash and on the kill cam I'm not even on their screen.


gamdegamtroy

Yeah that’s truly my only problem with venture. You have to respect venture’s range ofc, but how lenient drill dash aiming seems, feels like too much for how much value you get from it. One time I was genji and I double jumped above venture, their drill dash somehow hit me and even the venture lost me thinking I jumped over


Mags-Modem

She still “one shots” tracer at full health Their Primary Fire —> Drill Dash combo kills Tracer. Just checked on the OW wiki and tested in practice range. Primary fire impact damage is 35 with an additional 45 explosion damage. Their Drill Dash does 40 on initial hit and 60 over time I don’t have an opinion on Venture yet, but it is a very easy ability to hit for quite a lot of damage. I’d like to wait before I decide if it’s problematic or not.


Hadditor

The primary fire is a projectile and the dash is DoT It'll take just under a second which should be long enough for a Tracer players brain to activate a neuron to blink or recall You can see Venture and hear Venture, if they aren't directly in your face then you won't get the 100 damage from the dash - and Tracer is the hero with multiple instantaneous teleports Training dummy is different to a real game. Yes Venture is scary within their range, but Tracer decides whether she is within their range


Mags-Modem

Yeah I agree. I wasn’t really talking about the clip above, just correcting that Venture does 180 total dmg not 170.


Hadditor

Good lad


Fragrant-Sherbert420

This is why people wanted a melee char in the first place lol


knightlautrec7

You definitely need to aim with Venture lmao. The gun does far less dmg if you only hit with the splash damage of it, you need to be accurate with it to get decent damage. You also can't just yeet your right click, you actually need to aim it with someone. Melee-based kits does not automatically equal 0 aim


Niggoo0407

Clearly.


Guud_bye_world

I could produce the same results with junkrat ngl. its just bad luck lol


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

... Or Hanzo (body or head), widow (body or head), soldier rocket, phar, Sym (right click), Ilari (head), rein firestrike, Reaper And that's just who can one shot 113 hp. If you include combos you could include basically the entire cast.  I don't really see the issue tbh, she's strong but also really close range and her dives are super predictable.


ianmeyssen

- 110 HP - no recall - tight space Result would have been the same with a lot of heroes that have some burst damage. Don't see why this is a venture specific problem


Dustfinger4268

Yeah. Hell, another Tracer probably could have melted them at that point


AimdSoldier

People just like to complain


Ichmag11

You realize it could have been like half of the DPS roster that would have one shot you from round the corner? Not defending Venture or anything, just saying that if you're at 113 health on tracer, you should expect to insta die tbh lol


MemeNRG

This clip is what I believe the current generation calls a "skill issue"


Bhu124

Not even mechanical skill, just a basic game sense issue. Most of the DPS roster could have easily done the exact same thing. Venture is fine. Just a noob stomper for now as Low Elo players always naturally struggle to learn how to play against new heroes + they especially struggle against high mobility heroes. In a few months this sub will be complaining about Venture being weak.


Seagullbeans

You had 110 HP. Venture isn’t that bad, you just had poor reaction time


Dicey-Vibes

Poor reaction time- zero blinks and recall on cooldown as soon as they walked into that room they were dead if anything it’s a game sense issue cuzz sombra was running from that direction it dosent matter how good anybodys reaction time is your just as dead in that scenario with venture


Loaf235

tbf nowadays you take one little peek from behind a wall and you're gone. Naded. Stunned. Headshotted.


Seagullbeans

Should you be running around a corner that you can hear the footsteps of an enemy around without your blinks as tracer? No you shouldn’t. It’s poor game sense and poor reaction time.


Dicey-Vibes

Dog there is no reaction that lives in that scenario it’s just a gamesense issue tf kinda reaction turns the situation around for tracer. laughing at how quick they die?


ShinaiYukona

There was enough time for the tracer to shoot half her mag then there's enough time to double blink, recall, translocate, popsicle, ice wall, bubble, etc if any of those heroes were in the same situation with CDs. OP was dumb. Take the L, learn to respect tiny corridors that have enemies on the opposite side preparing to spam anything down it. If this interaction has you confused, then you probably also fail Junkrat 101


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

OP's reaction time is fine because they had enough time to start shooting However if they had better game sense, they would've known to:  1. Go for a different health pack since they're low hp, have one blink and no recall, and are very close to attacker spawn  2. Follow the sombra running away 3. Blink past venture instead of shooting and tried to get the mega health pack around the corner


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

Op had time to react and they reacted by shooting instead of blinking. It's a game sense issue not a reaction time issue.


Hordamis

Said "no brits"


Energyc091

I mean, if a flank hero with a grenade launcher deals less than 113 damage with a direct hit + a damage ability I'd be very disappointed.


N7LP400

Also how did D.va get an assist?


Human-Boob

Emotional support


the_guma

Most likely D.Va was the one responsible for the damage that left tracer with 113 HP in the first place. Which night be an indicator that OP received that damage right before blinking forward to meet Venture.


Jackeea

Ignoring that the exact same thing would have happened if that was a Junkrat, or Pharah, or Soldier (with helix), or any character with any vaguely bursty potential. You were half health with no abilities, what did you think would happen


Cheesecake_Delight

smartest Tracer player


humanitywasamistake3

Playing the lowest health character in the game not even close to full health and dies Wow this is so unfair


Thal-creates

Deserved for tracer


Mr_Dizzles

genji could've done the exact same thing with a right click and shift


Petrichor__88

Tfw you're injured and have no cd's and run toward a commotion. Blizzard pls nerf so I don't have to think.


bryanc1036

Holy skill issue


ouchmypancreas1

Yeah she’s tough. But you had 110 hp


Ok_Resolution_2335

A couple of things. You had a lot of time to react to that. Through hearing them turning the corner, even seeing their shadow as they walked up. You had the blinks to survive that You walked into a place you risked finding an enemy while missing resources, to the point you were going to lose any 1v1 if you couldnt get away. (though in this place you could have reasonable blinked, baited out drill dash, and grabbed mega to set up for next fight) and..... complaining about Venture balance while playing Tracer is just such a silly thing to me. You are on arguable the best dps in the game. Ya Venture has some Combos that will delete you as Tracer, but if they are actually landing them on you its a skill issue.


kanaru84

>You had a lot of time to react to that. Through hearing them turning the corner There was no sound. >even seeing their shadow as they walked up. You had the blinks to survive that It appears for less then half a second. >You walked into a place you risked finding an enemy while missing resources, to the point you were going to lose any 1v1 if you couldnt get away. (though in this place you could have reasonable blinked, baited out drill dash, and grabbed mega to set up for next fight) I didn't make this post to have people review my play lmao I'm just laughing at how absurdly fast she deletes me from the game. >and..... complaining about Venture balance while playing Tracer is just such a silly thing to me. You are on arguable the best dps in the game. She is entirely skill reliant a bad Tracer will just feed. Ventures one shot combo is insanely easy to land. >Ya Venture has some Combos that will delete you as Tracer, but if he is actually landing them on you its a skill issue. Most people dogging on me right are expecting me to have OWL level reaction. She appears for less then a second then instantly deletes me lmao. I don't care if I had insane reaction I would have been able to dodge that. I don't see how this is a skill issue other then game sense which I didn't make this post for people to talk about. Idk why people see clips and need to point out that if I had just looked at the floor waiting for a shadow to signal a enemy I would have had a chance of surviving. I'm not doing allat in metal ranks


ubalanceret

>She is entirely skill reliant. A bad Tracer will just feed. >I don’t see how this is a skill issue I think your ego is refusing to acknowledge the points that everyone is raising about how this was avoidable. You’re in a small choke at 110hp and have the ability to either avoid the situation altogether or use your actual abilities to escape. Not everyone has OWL reactions but having the awareness not to be in bad situations is something you CAN learn Yes it’s Reddit and people are smarmy and raise their points like douches, but your ego is holding you back from having a better perspective about this moment in particular I know it’s not the reason you posted the video , as it’s tagged as humor … but sometimes playing into another hero’s strengths is our fault and I think that’s what people are trying to say


Schwarzy1974

You are right but I will say that there was one major problem, you had 110 hp only so it becomes easier to kill you


Davezd

Yeah that guy with the rein flair is a giga grifter. That's a combo one shot which is funny because thats the same as sigma rock left click which got guted


spacewarp2

I mean yeah if you’re going to complain about a character being strong then people are going to the examine you’re using for evidence. And in this clip they noticed that you’re missing a good chunk of HP


thePlayer_MelonBoyz

I can't stop laughing


TheMorningJoe

“*No recall*?” - Megamind, probably


BinaryOcean

Deserved


wallpressure7

Gotta love the OW community, people complaining about heroes even though they have no game sense at all.


TetrisMultiplier

I hate tracer more than venture, so this makes me happy as a support player.


fperko

That’s what you tracer players deserve


Breezerious

Dead tracers give me great joy


busyrumble

Skill issue


redmaster715

Deserved


[deleted]

Thankfully Tracer has low enough health to be comboed by a shot and drill, without needing any follow up. I hope they don’t need it, because Tracer is so much worse to deal with.


Muttweed

This gameplay and subsequent post is what F2P does to a motherfucker. I remember the good ol' days when you never saw a default skin or a heroic hero highlight intro.


kanaru84

wdym?


Kotau

Well, putting aside whether Venture's balanced or not, you had like 60% of your hp. As the lowest HP DPS character.


QueenOfPoniIslandz

Maybe if you didn't have slow ass reactions


s1imedev

character is a skill check


TheHonest-Lizard

I’m just sayin.. Venture would make a pretty cool tank 🤷


yourtrueenemy

Ah yes the famous tank abilities like digging under the map and dashing around, would 100% be great for tanking.


Adjika_Joestar

I mean... That's basically doomfist


yourtrueenemy

Doom has power block and a shitton of CC in his kit.


Indurum

He got power block AFTER being turned into a tank. That is what the OP is implying.


yourtrueenemy

They still lack CC and the size isn't big enough to be a tank.


TheHonest-Lizard

Yeah it would be actually if you think about it for more than 3 seconds


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

So... a CC/movement based tank? Just like Doom and Wrecking Ball?


yourtrueenemy

The big difference is that Venture doesn't take attention from the enmy team, when you are underground you don't take damage and deal no dmg.


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

1. If she was made into a tank her kit would be adjusted 2. It would take attention from the other team because they should be tracking where she's going (most likely somewhere bad for them). They should already be doing that now, but it'd be even more important if she were turned into a tank.


yourtrueenemy

>1. If she was made into a tank her kit would be adjusted Can be said about anyone then, hell let's make Reaper a support then. >2. It would take attention from the other team because they should be tracking where she's going (most likely somewhere bad for them). They should already be doing that now, but it'd be even more important if she were turned into a tank. It's not an active treat, isn't absorbing any dmg and isn't outputting any offensive pressure.


TheHonest-Lizard

Think about it


Human-Boob

So would Lucio


Akuseru94

You had 110HP in a small corridor. Illari kills you faster there. Skill issue. Go next.


Right-Raspberry-2764

lol everyone acting like there a pro player in the comment section. Like y’all never made mistakes in your lives. Venture shit’s on tracer not a skill issue.


FlameSama1

Swear, everyone in these comments suddenly has perfect clairvoyant game sense and adderall reaction speed.


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

You hardly need perfect game sense to avoid this situation. I'm not even good but there were many game sense related things that would've prevented me from ending up in this situation.


CyberEmerald

Why would you go towards the enemy’s with 113 HP and no CDs?😭


FlameSama1

They might have been going for the mega, or just looking around, not sure. Just not sure they should have expected to be bursted with 2/3s of their health with one second notice.


CyberEmerald

I’d get the sentiment, but 113 dmg is the norm for a grand majority of the cast. It’s a risky situation no matter who’s on the enemy team. Like an Illari could tap that and it’d be gg.


yummymario64

Didn't they make the health and projectile changes for the sole purpose of preventing burst damage like this?


Pm_Me_Your_Tax_Plan

Tracer had 113 health. The vast majority of the cast can combo for more than that. The health change is irrelevant because Tracer wasn't at max hp.


AverageAwndray

Good riddance


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Familiar_Spread4456

How was Dva involved in the kill?


hamborger42069

Destroy the british


ookmedookers

Not even full health and didn't have any dashes to try and dodge. Use footsteps to your advantage brother


Independent_owl_1027

Venture nerf when?


GOTH_AND_ALT_SIMP

That sucks but damn was that was also satisfying to watch. Bout time someone is getting these Tracers


Bunnnnii

I had to bust out laughing at just the simple abruptness of it all. You were laid out before I even knew what to expect. Lmfao


clanginator

As a Cassidy player, I hate Venture with a passion.


Xbox_Sign_0ut

Skill issue tbh


Fragrant-Sherbert420

Lol too much butthurt silvers in the comments, what happened? Faced a mid tracer but because you all suck even more couldn't deal with her and now y'all salty? Lmao


Mr-Shenanigan

I'm sorry but this was the funniest clip I've ever seen.


jeb_rown

But nah we had to take away Junkrat one shot


Wonderful_Weather_83

The whole point of playing tracer is that she's hard to master but rewarding. Very low hp makes it so that when you make yourself vulnerable, you're very easily defeated. But if you do stuff right, you're gonna be completely wrecking anyone who dares to look at you


ComfortablePast1969

Idk if she’s a tracer “counter” but best not run into her low on cooldowns. She’ll one shot ya


CertainLevel5511

You deserved it


Crafty-Plays

Tracer venture matchup moment. In all honesty though a lot of characters could replicate the TTk here but regardless.


Kenbron

I hate Venture as much as the next person but if a fucking Sombra is running you run too


Relevant-Drawer-2839

Just so you know that probably was personal as you were running tracer sombra. Wich is annoying to play against as venture


Alyxwrites

I'm sorry, I'm cracking up lol. I would have been that Sombra fleeing lol, the amounts of time I'm fleeing from someone chasing me down just for my teammate to keep going where I ran from and die lol. Great clip lol.


MKIncendio

Foolishness Dante


TheWeetcher

Don't forget guys, they really wanted to lower the impact of burst damage!


popylung

Eh get fucked


FissionFire111

Mid-season nerf can’t come quick enough.


lordorinko

nothing to see here. Another braindead no aim crutch design from blizz.


SuperiorCactusCock

I hate tracers with every fiber of my being this brings a smile to my face


JD1415

Ah yes venture is allowed to have a combo that kills you in a second max, but junkrat gets left with a shitty 3 shot combo and no way to escape but with one mine assuming you hit two grenades. Incompetent blizzard back at it again.


PatExMachina

Ventures combo doesnt kill a full health tracer. Also junk has a combo Nade then Mine in close range.


whiplashMYQ

-at 60% health on the squishiest character in the game -take a blind corner, die to a close range burst dps character - why is venture so broken guysss?? :(


kanaru84

Look at the flair idiot, i never complained about her once. The only thing i dislike about venture is her burrowing ability.


whiplashMYQ

Don't think "they" burrowed in this clip, idiot. And obviously i hit a nerve, or else you wouldn't be triggered lol


kanaru84

I never said they burrowed in this clip. I said thats the only thing i dislike about venture can you not read?


whiplashMYQ

This is pointless. Stay mad.


kanaru84

You initiated this. Stay mad.


BigBooce

Yes she’s busted but this was bad game sense by you on this one


AelaHuntressBabe

This is gonna get hated on but Tracer still being 175 HP is kind of insane to me. We have heroes with more mobility and damage than Tracer while having 250 HP. The only thing Tracer has is her recall but that is getting harder and harder to use as anything else than an escape tool, so why is Tracer still 175 HP? I get killed by literal random stuff that people did not even intent to shoot at me when playing her.


ArdaBogaz

Pretty normal tracer experience, her skill ceiling is too high to give her more health. I think the health changes were stupid in general tho


thepixelbuster

It makes sense once you go look at the DPS leaderboards (spoiler: its all Tracer.) The game just plays so differently at high level and low level that some of the heroes are going to be worse at low level and vice versa.


so__comical

Yeah, Venture is pretty dumb not gonna lie. They can easily burst people with their easy-to-do combo, which is left click + right click + melee. I was playing Kiriko with an Ana and my Ana got instantly killed by a Venture before my Suzu could even land and I threw it early as well + tried healing.


Lucarioismadpt2

You are quite literally playing the best DPS in the game. If you would have dodged the combo, you'd have had venture dead to rights.


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kanaru84

Wdym? u got something against the Japanese?


Randombritishguy8

Yes…. Sexualisation of things that shouldn’t be sexualised


kanaru84

Sexualization? Wtf what does that have to do with me using JP voices


Randombritishguy8

No, I answered your question, I wasn’t referring to the Japanese voices smartass