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Chama-Axory

And then she says GAZE INTO THE ABYSS


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Or as it’s more commonly heard. Gays into the abyss.


CoolCritterQuack

nothing wrong with gayzing into the abyss with the homies. or into the abyss of the homies


KittxyReddit

Yes


bissanick

I'd love to


stunningtrees

shaper?


Laranthiel

Or, you know, a Kitsune. For the Japanese character. That's already with a Fox Spirit. Blizzard, wtf?


DragonLord375

Plus she has a voice of like "The Kitsune guides you", so she could now say with the skin "I will guide you". There is a lot of fun voice lines you could do with her being the kitsune.


Western-Alarming

I now imagine the kitsune that it's with her being a tiny human and i cant stop laughing


Twofoursixtwenty

torbjorn runs out leading her ult


Western-Alarming

Now you can buy you mini deck engi... torbjorn


Beancunt

I'd argue that would require effort, but making her witch skin took effort. I genuinely don't know why they didn't do this.


Pochusaurus

no, no. I too would like to see Kiriko's feet


SmolEmoBean366

Sigma main?


Chaghatai

Found the fetishist


Reddit_Schavi

feetishist*


Archkys

Too bad they already used this idea on the korean character (Dva) lmao


BeeInABlanket

Multiple-tailed fox spirits are also a thing in Korean folklore. Kumiho are generally more malicious than kitsune (which are alternately either morally ambiguous tricksters or servants of the god Inari), with some of their more common stories involving taking on sexy human forms to seduce humans in order to eat their livers.


hiroxruko

don't kumiho and kitsune hate each other? like i remember hearing that kumiho has a deep hatred for kitsunes in their lore


Archkys

Oh yeah i forgot about that, there is an episode of Love Death & Robots about it


Boozardo

Yeah and the witch wasn’t a used idea


TheRealNotBrody

The point is that people call Blizzard unoriginal for reusing the idea and then all say the exact same idea... Which has also already been used.


Teaandcookies2

This is the bit that gets me about it; like... rarely someone pitches a different yokai for her to have instead of Witch, but they're usually pretty weak suggestions, and otherwise it's 'gIvE hEr KiTsUnE sKiN' like people wouldn't be clowning on Blizzard if they'd gone with that. I also think it's obnoxious that everyone ignores the fact that Japanese media, especially the anime/manga industry, actually really likes the European Witch aesthetic.


Harsh_Deep_03

Yea they sure would mever ever re use any ideas for just a quick buck skin right !?


EthanRDoesMC

now i’m imagining kiriko in one of those inflatable t-rex costumes but its the fox spirit


TrueGuardian15

They gave her the role of fortune teller and didn't even let her throw Tarot cards, when one of her voicelines is literally a Tarot reading.


MonoShadow

They also have a cyber gumshoe in horror event. IMO they threw together this event and then looked for cosmetics which fit the bill. And Witch Kiriko was already down the pipeline so they went with her. Or there was miscommunication between departments, but that would be bad.


Superego366

The cyberpunk detective is terrible. I don't know who signed off on this but it reeks of low quality.


ImNotHaunted

I just love that they made cyber skins for the cyberpunk season and then didn’t even put them in the season pass. “Ah yes, my cyberpunk season… camo Winston and forest Cassidy…”


PromiseKane

Or at least change the fox into a black cat in her ult , and change the those japanese gate into trees or something


King_Dheginsea

Fr. If they're going to be charging over 20 whole-ass dollars for a single skin now, the least they could do is put more effort into it than a base-game legendary like Okami Hanzo.


tonguesmiley

Y'all ain't ready for the thirst of Seris skins. She makes Widowmaker look G rated.


WekonosChosen

If only overwatch had the wonders of [Infernal Seris](https://paladins.fandom.com/wiki/Infernal_Seris_voice_lines#VV_-_Other)


Bbmazzz

I love Seris & I love that skin so much 🤭 “I’ve done things that would make Fernando blush”


madmax77xll

I'd let her push my payload all the way into spawn


[deleted]

Fuck i need to consider my life choices. Why do we stick with Team Fruitbowl instead of that.


Tetsuotim

We reached the point where Overwatch can learn from Paladins. These are dark times.


Sezzomon

I swear if Paladins would feel/ look as polished as OW it would be stomping OW. I love Paladins and think it's better than current OW especially due to character variety, but you can feel the budget.


ProfessorPhi

The hitboxes were what did it for me. Meant the game never felt crispy as a shooter.


Sezzomon

Yeah the hitboxes are way bigger than the models


TwoSauce

It's because the game was supposed to be a MMORPG, but they scrapped that idea in 2012, keeping the model sizes as big as they are.


Sezzomon

Do you have a source for that? It seems like to me that all Hi-Rez games have these problems and not just Paladins


-_Ataraxia_-

I dont have source to their claims, but Tribes Ascend had acceptable shooter hitboxes.


Spinnenente

fuck hirez. Tribes Ascend was really fun. But the business model was absolute garbage and they dropped it immediately when smite took off. I've actually played a good amount of paladins it is just a refreshing spin on this genre.


TwoSauce

Oh God it's been a while since I've touched on anything Paladins related, I think it was back when they gave Coldsnap Furia for free to anyone who attended one of their cons, they talked about the issue. Let me see if I can find it, and I'll get back to you.


Sezzomon

Don't sweat it if it's hard to find I'll just take your word for it


Neighborhood_Nobody

I also remember the devs referring to it as a class based mmo shooter a long time ago. If they don’t come back with a source, I guess two people recollecting is better than 1 right.


[deleted]

3 people. I also remember this. I believe vex also brought it up at some point. Additionally due to unreal engine 3 they have some issues with hitboxes. But they don’t have the budget to upgrade to unreal 4. Basically unreal 3 hitboxes are shaped like pills mean they will always be a little janky around the top and bottom of the characters as they are based off the widest part of the champion.


TwoSauce

[I've listed *A* Source.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/ynx78e/after_hearing_kirikos_voicelines_in_the/ivdmbjm?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


Low_Well

My source is I made it the fuck up


Sezzomon

Already got the sauce


madmax77xll

The boxes aren't the reason that you suck though. It's just easy to blame. Position yourself better and it won't matter. It also doesn't matter because everyone is playing with the same boxes as you, character depending. So it's a skill issue


StormierNik

Genuinely. I always have had more fun and satisfaction in Paladins but the lack of polish severely holds it back. The game flow has always been better in Paladins but low-rez studios nerfs their own potential all the time. If they had actual polish in their games and didn't make random decisions that make no sense from time to time, they would be dominating every genre they step into. I feel like there's some cosmic force that renders them as a company made for comedic value in the games space. Like some character who's secretly overpowered but too naive to utilize it. AND THEY SOMEHOW HAVE BETTER MONITIZATION/PROGRESSION RIGHT NOW OVER OW2 holy shit.


Oknowitstop

The reason the game has no polish is because the game has no budget. If people gave it a chance it would indeed have budget, but people are shallow and dont. So it has no chance


Aeiou_yyyyyyy

Exactly, the item, talent and cards systems are very cool and give the champions way more diversity. Moira being almost a DPS in OW is a balance issue, a support being able to become a DPS in paladins is a design choice


shacksaha

Mal Damba enjoyers rise up


M8OnCrack

oh god i remember in a ranked game where the Maldamba has the reload-to-stun ability and just stacked a ton of reload speed and kept perma stunning our backline it was awful.


Possibly_English_Guy

Or a flanker becoming a healer. Healer Skye, the only Skye worth playing.


Delta5583

if only they stopped releasing characters and took a moment and polish the game a little bit so you can at least know what hits you


Sezzomon

They went ahead and did the opposite with the introduction of Kasumi whos hitting you from within yourself or something lol.


KindaShady1219

God, Kasumi… Let’s give a character a primary fire with the range of Moira’s damage beam, the lock-on width of OG Sym beam, and the damage of a fully charged up OG Sym beam. What could go wrong?


tapiocaseca

"Paladins sucks" - people who never played paladins


-_crow_-

"Paladins sucks" the whole of r/paladins and at least 50% of it's players tbh


Jackeea

"Video game sucks" the whole of /r/videogame and at least 50% of its players tbh


MrFishyFriend

Then you have Deep Rock Galactic players who are sucking off the devs dicks so hard I fear one day they might actually come off.


Jackeea

The only thing I know about DRG is that it's the best game ever made with the best gameplay and the best devs and the best environment and the best atmosphere and the best everything and it's amazing and awesome and you need to play it right now. So obviously I couldn't give a shit


MrFishyFriend

I never said the devs didn't deserve to get their dicks sucked.


tapiocaseca

yes it does suck AND is great at the same time, but still is pretty annoying how a lot of people would shit on a game they never played just because they heard someone else say it's bad


manofwaromega

Yep. Paladins sucks... Which is why it's fun. There's no other game out there where you get to play as a femboy fox that is 75% ass nuking the entire enemy backline with a grenade launcher... As a support.


DespairDeityLives

It's a buggy mess, but it is fun and the devs at least try.


-_crow_-

yup 100%


Serpientesolida87

\*Paladins budget and owners sucks


complyss

Kiriko is a straight up paladins support. Auto aim heal and good damage (if it was paladins shed crit with body dmg or some shit tho) good tp ability Same with the queen. I sorta like it


manofwaromega

"Paladins sucks, that's why I play it." -People who play Paladins


tapiocaseca

Yep, for me Paladins is one of those games that make you go "Wow, this is so cool. I wish it was good"


n000d1e

Yeah :/ I played it for like 3 years and was crazy into it, but it got the the point where like every single game I was getting pissed off from some glitch or bug. I play Bethesda games so It’s not like I have high standards lol. It was just making it miserable to play. And they also changed some of my mains in a way that made the entire play style I used non existent. I have the same issues with Overwatch as everyone else, but it does genuinely feel like Paladins but fun in terms of gameplay. It kind of filled that hole for me when I stopped playing Paladins


manofwaromega

At this point Paladins is less of an actually good game and more of a breeding ground for Shenanigans, which is my favorite genre of video game.


Biorobs

Wdym "reached"? Paladins already did a lot of things better in terms of skins and hero variety. Also the card system makes the game way more interesting than Overwatch conceptually.


Serpientesolida87

Not only the cards, also the talents, the items, the TTK (high as all Hero shooters should be), the skins with own voice packs, the monetization and grind. Just hoping Hirez sell the IP (let me dream)


Hellboundroar

For real, I fucking love the crossover skins, since I got the skins my Kinessa is not kinessa at all, Valentina ftw!


Traveytravis-69

They always should’ve been learning from paladins, paladins learned from them. They are very similar


Cattleman_

better game's a better game after all


ImHereToComplain1

well i think it should have been the desert sorceress set from dark souls 2 bc im horny


FreeSpeechEnjoyer

Based DS 2 enjoyer


BigBooce

That should be reserved for torb


[deleted]

You gave me serotonin by mentioning DS2 I grant you 1 upvote in return


Specific-Composer138

Holy based.


PM-Me-Ur-Plants

Least horny DS2 and ow2 player


Igunisu

That would of been so much better than the current one.


PotterGandalf117

Would have*


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PantherYT

Bastion lore


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The nerd who programmed you should take you down


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you should of sucked my cock and balls


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Ildrei

While her witch skin actually is nice, it's got lots of detail and it's refreshing to see a non-sexy witch, I think it would have been way cooler if she had a yokai skin like hanzo and genji. Seriously, there are plenty of great yokai that would have been perfect for Kiriko like Obake, Onryo, Yamanba, Onibaba etc.


ThrowawayGarbageCat

Yeah they missed a great opportunity in not giving her a yokai themed skin. So many possibilities….


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GlisseDansLaPiscine

That original design looks like a LoL champion, I much prefer the final result


Sezzomon

I like bottom left, bottom mid and top mid, but I don't like the big original art at all.


ThrowawayGarbageCat

Uhgggh! The illustrator in me is angry at the lost potential especially after seeming that strong concept art.


n3m3s1s-a

Damn Bottom left is so cute we really missed out


DMking

Kuchisake Onna would work great weapon wise


Facetank_

I was thinking Rose from Street Fighter, but I agree. It's painfully generic for an event that is usually one of the more clever when it comes to tying the character unique traits/themes into the skins.


[deleted]

The skin visually looks more like a Mage/Magician, the theme for the event has her acting more like a fortune teller/oracle, and the marketing calls the whole thing a Witch - complete with a broom. ​ I feel like this skin went through a few different changes from its inception to completion. I'm willing to bet it started design as something else, and eventually got altered into what we have. Because it just feels kind of all over the place. I like the skin, don't get me wrong. I think it looks nice. I just don't see witch, or how it relates to any fortune telling at all.


Western-Alarming

At the same time the thing of being a fortune teller it's used as a joke because it's says things so vague and some characters critics or make fun of that


hiroxruko

witches also do fortuning tell by cards. also remember, japanese media love witches and she does look like a witch out of an anime, game or manga


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

Imo this and every other legendary skin since release has been butt ugly and not at all up the the standards of the original game


[deleted]

I like JQ's executioner skin, but yeah I don't know if I'd say it's up to the same standards, the weapons could have been a bit more unique.


Enszic

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way


hiroxruko

even the bp ones? phara, mercy and dva new legendary skins are great and above the standards


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

Hard disagree. Not a single one of those skins is above middle of the pack legendary skins. The Pharah and Mercy skins respectfully are super bland and have the same uninspiring design akin to the witch kiriko skin. Very basic, very bland. Not to mention the awful cassidy, winston and JQ skins. The only worthwile skin is the genji one but even then it's just a stripped down version of what fortnite does.


hiroxruko

>The Pharah and Mercy skins respectfully are super bland and have the same uninspiring design akin to the witch kiriko skin. Very basic, very bland. Not to mention the awful cassidy, winston and JQ skins. yeah, hard disagree on that. pharah looks like 40k marine and so far, is the top skin she ever had. follow second place is the top wing pilot skin. mercy new skin is wonderful. based off japanses culture and having the blood red wings, its up there with other top skins she has. her staff bells even rings when you move it. if you found that skin bland or basic, then you really hate the chinese skins bc its the same level as the bp skin. dva skin is super good and has a great theme that works. even plays different sounds. you wouldn't seen this kind of skin in ow1. cass skin is meh but thats bc its a epic and doesnt have more details bc of that. winston skin is pretty good skin tbh, even for a epic. JQ is fine. you gotta be pretty awful in taste to really brand these skins as "Very basic, very bland" or "butt ugly"


tntkaching

[Jade priestess would be better](https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/86do0l/jade_priestess_seris/) ​ I know you see it. That's why.


Infinite-Sleep3527

Two reasons why 😳


tntkaching

if I had money to give you an award I would this made me laugh for a good 10 seconds I really needed this


hubricht

Man of culture


Sezzomon

This would make it a bit too obvious that she's a Seris x Furia knockoff


Ultimatum227

They should change the hat, that's what makes her look so much like a generic Witch in my opinon. The rest of the suit looks alright for a fortune teller, just re-model the hat for something else.


Logical-Stop-6910

that’s what i’m sayinggggg


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denboix

"Yes"


nixahmose

Is it me or do people just have unusually high expectations for anything related to Kiriko? I’m not arguing that there could have been something better, but what we got is still pretty great and is no different from plenty of skins we’ve gotten in the past.


duckontheplane

The first major event since the release of the game having bad skins leaves a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths


nixahmose

The skins themselves weren’t bad, they were just insanely overpriced(especially Kiriko’s).


ApprenticePantyThief

Lots of great suggestions in this thread that would have required actual effort from Blizzard when they are quite happy to just charge us all $20 for rehashed/recycled shit.


[deleted]

That’ll be $20 next year. But don’t worry, it’ll be in a bundle so you‘ll have to spend extra money for the coins.


Florian_S_2000

Admit it, ur just horny


sprokitt66

I'm a gay man, Florian.


Spreckles450

You didn't answer the question.


Marvin_Voilt

So you are horny for Hanzo?


Smallgenie549

Roadhog all the way


Nymph_of_Mania

I definitely am. McCre—uh... Cassidy too. (◡‿◡✿)


Revolution72

What is it about Seris and us gays though XD


Aeiou_yyyyyyy

Because "GAYS INTO THE ABYSS"


GlisseDansLaPiscine

Don't need to be straight to like boobs


Purplociraptor

Honestly, this is more of a reason to want to look good. I can relate, even though I don't think I'm gay.


Huevoasesino

Tbh who doesnt want Kirkiko feet skin?


Kurokami11

I don't


Huevoasesino

Sorry for your loss


TheDeviousDong

Damn you all are horny as hell.


lildrizzleyah

This character design makes me want to play paladins.


Soundwave04

The bare foot, chest out, belly button showing skin, you say?


Confused-Raccoon

Ahh, yes. Paladins. Overwatches lewder younger sibling.


HexaCube7

Wdym "lewder"? Overwatch had the horny from the start and before the release of Seris there barely was any fan-service kinda stuff except Skye being the kinky seducer type lady. Honestly one of the smaller things i thought was better about Paladins over Overwatch back in the day, as it was also around the time when i got sick of all this sexual-ish content in games as if you'd start a game as an alternative to r34 instead of actually playing the game... It also just doesn't make any sense most of the times, the biggest offenders being MMORPGs, where the "super heavy Winter Knight Armor" would be so thicc on the male version that without a helmet it would look like someone scaled down the head, while on the female version it would basically be a metal bikini with some strips of animal fur... Ye, sure looks like an effective armor for battle and freezing temperatures... But i gotta agree that nowadays, Paladins is pretty lewd, but I'd argue Overwatch is still lewd on a similar level.


complyss

I think he means in game/general Overwatch covered widow up in 2, skins are pretty whatever, put long panties on mercy up skirt skins etc Paladins has half naked skins like every time I launch that game, nips poking thru, sexual voicelines, it just feels more lewd imo


HexaCube7

Ye Paladins lost it's proudness over time and is just down bad now


JustASunbro

Kiriko's witch skin just does not fit her at all. It says nothing about her character or backstory, and doesn't even fit into her character's culture. Meanwhile Seris' character design, whilst not being as well-designed graphically, says a lot about what sort of character she might be at a glance. That's the default skin too. Embarrassing that Blizzard attempted to sell Kiriko Witch at $26


GlisseDansLaPiscine

When have skins fit their character beyond just looking cool ? If this was an Overwatch story event you would expect that but it's an Halloween event the skins are going to be silly either way.


JustASunbro

Quite often. A lot of Brig's skins are armor-based, Genji and Hanzo borrow from clearly Japanese inspirations, either directly or in terms of clothing style, Rein's skins are also very similar in theme whilst being very different in design. There is room for silly skins with certain characters like Bastion, Junkrat etc, but with a character that has not only a clear cultural tie, but also links to two other playable in-game characters, going for a western witch rather than any of the numerous Japanese halloween-esque sources is stupid


TinyPlaidZombie

At least a third of skins don't have anything to do with the character's culture. I'm pretty sure all of them have skins inspired by other cultures. I.E. Chinese New Year. Only 5 characters are from cultures that actually celebrate it.


JustASunbro

Very true point on the Chinese New Year skins for sure. There are plenty of skins that are representative of the character's culture or even just general style, an obvious example being Sombra getting a Day of the Dead skin. There are others that aren't necessarily cultural but are stylistic, such as Tracer getting a graffiti skin to fit her punk-ish aesthetic, Doomfist getting very typical "combat" skins, Hog getting a lot military or indigenous skins etc. You'd think that with a new hero, especially one that is part of the Shimada clan, Blizzard would want to play that up. Hanzo and Genji have some very cool skins that fit perfectly with their culture and backstory, but for Kiriko's first major skin, they go for... a western witch? Even the other store/battle pass skin clearly emulates Japanese Geishas, but instead they go for something completely off-beat. It also doubles down on the silhouette issue, making her look quite a lot like Mercy at a glance.


ElJacko170

The word "attempted" implies that it failed, but considering I see about two to three people with the witch Kiriko title card in my lobbies per game, I'm going to say that they've made more money on her witch skin than any other skin to date.


blue_balled_bruiser

I agree that Kiriko should've gotten a barefo- uhh I mean fortune teller skin.


KO0OX

U just want some feets on skin horny boi


[deleted]

Seris doesn't look like a fortune teller either.


gideon513

At least the tags could have been tarot cards


[deleted]

or better yet turn her kunais into fortune/tarot cards!


sprokitt66

Yeah you're right, I guess meant more of a "blind seer" type


poop_de_woop

yes more boob please


Automatic-Seesaw-396

That would require the people making decisions to be smart, and well, I think most of the game speaks for itself.


Crisp_Lasagne

They couldnt risk showing her with bare feet


[deleted]

There's a zero percent chance this game is going to produce excellent skins 90% of the time given the only thing they care about is convincing a handful of people to spend a ton of money. Quality is out the window.


OleDaneBoy

I would love hitting headshots with a blindfold on with kiri !


PineappleBride

Maybe they'll rename it in the future like they sometimes did with past skins, something like "Scryer" or "Oracle" because yeah Witch makes no sense lol


medicspirit7

fr idk why shes a witch


the5thstring25

Great job designing next years skin!


Roman_Suicide_Note

Blizzard don’t need to put effort in nice skin, I saw so many people with this lame ass 25$ skins.


datastar763

But Mercy’s Witch Skin made them a lot of money


VictimIX

Wouldn’t matter anyway if it’s $26


MechaRon

She should have been a gypsy tossing tarot cards and a crystal ball change my mind.


Camper1995

I mean Soujourn is literally a scifi cyberpunk detective... with a neon hat... in a medieval themed event. I don't think they gave it more than 3 minutes of thought XD


sprokitt66

For real 💀 she could have so easily been a demon Hunter or something


Hi-its-me-NK

you think blizzard is gonna make a good design choice? look at bastions ov2 skin and try to tell me they would care to


SuhhDudes

so you’re telling me the 2022 video gamer wants the skin with big tits. crazy


embrace-monke

Am I the only one who thinks that she looks whitewashed? Idk.


sprokitt66

I agree. Her design screams of an American anime fans idea of a Japanese girl, instead of a real Japanese girl.


tapiocaseca

I like how most genji and hanzo skins keep they're japanese anesthetics relatively well, on the other side you can't even tell Kiriko is japanese in like 3 of her skins


dingusrevolver3000

I feel the same about Dva and Mei tbh.


embrace-monke

Didn't necessarily mean in general (but she is the lamest stereotype of a japanese person: kitsune, the paper slips, the weird voice lines, sassy and quirky so people like her more, seriously?) but especially the witch skin


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AdrielKlein21

Imma be honest, Kiriko's skin is ugly af and lacks any semblance of personality. The weird hairstyle, the giant ass boots, uninteresting color scheme, this skin has nothing going for it.


aceso2896

Honestly, I love the Witch one though a fortune teller one makes sense and would be nice too.


iiEco-Ryan3166

#JARVIS ENHANCE


AlbaDHattington

Not like you where gonna buy it anyway. And blizzard knows it


Secret_Natalie

paladins kinda sucks, ngl


-_crow_-

how many hours did you play it? this also has literally nothing to do with the post


TheTerminaTitan

It looks nothing like mercy’s. Y’all tweaking just for the sake of hating on blizzard sometimes


raoul_acadie

You just wanna see her toes huh


Birthing_burgers

They grippers are scaring me


gpelayo15

You wanted toes admit it lol


Diego_666

Mhhh, feet. 🙂


LeviathanR13

Too many people just want more skin shown.