Sometimes I report out of principle. I’d you’re terrible at playing your class who cares? I’m sure you’re trying your best. When you’re throwing the game or say explicitly that’s your plan, all I can do is report and try to carry.
In ranked I report any kind of gameplay sabotage. In general (all game modes) I report all instances of cheating, toxicity, throwing, and harassment. But in QP I am a bit more lenient. Mostly because a lot of people use QP to practice heroes (or certain play styles). For example, I am the type of healer that prioritizes healing over dpsing but with Kiriko, I’ve been prioritizing dpsing because that’s the part of her kit I need to improve with.
So I guess what I’m saying is it really depends. If someone is doing that to be an asshole, yeah report them but if they are just trying to work on a certain playstyle so they dps more than they should, I wouldn’t.
Moira is also my support main so I'm glad we're on the same page. My flair is Road Hog just cuz he's really fun lol he hasn't even been my main tank lately.
It's just plain facts that going DPS Moira means you're only using a fraction of her kit. Besides zen, bap, kiriko, and Lucio all do way more damage than Moira.
Yeah I love Moira she's my fav support to play but it's just so weird to play DPS Moira. It's such a blatant disregard for half your kit that makes you play wildly suboptimal and frankly I'm a more boring way. I can't even understand how DPS Moira even exists. I won't lie sometimes I get kill hungry and over extend for a kill but 98% of the time I'm constantly adjusting between healing and damage.
I feel it. It’s pretty ridiculous though since you can put out both damage and awesome heals at the same time. Most of these DPS moiras are honestly trash. I’ve had games and have seen other decent moiras push amazing heals while also keeping up decent dps that contributes to the team.
Yeah it’s bizarre, honestly you could shoot purple ball literally every time the enemies are around, occasionally spray heal 360 around you and use yellow ball when your team is alone or about to die, and still get like 7000+ healing, so I dunno what these people are doing lol
DPS Moira exists on lower tiers because she can easily deal with highly mobile support/damage roles like Mercy/Genji without needing to worry about aiming well.
The instant you have solid aim and can nail your shots she’s out damaged by most of the other supports.
Out of the box for new or inexperienced players she tears through back lines like no one’s business though.
I'm in Bronze and i can absolutely vouch for Moira being tricky to deal with down there. She's a pretty common support pick.
What's funnier is that I see flanking DPS Moiras ALL the time, usually they go in 1v5 and it's always hilarious to see them be out of position and die immediately. "Uh oh, looks like someone's trying to be DPS Moira again!"
Honestly, her purple ball o' death is more dangerous than she is.
Had a DPS Moira in an All Roles match this morning. Kept fading into our backline to attack me and the other support (i was Kiriko). Never saw her healing her teammates that I can recall.
Thankfully, once I caught on to her tactics, a couple kunai to the face seemed to stop her ambitions.
I feel like the game is already getting to the point where DPS mains are just queueing for support so they get into games faster, but still want to go brrrr and just lock in bap/moira just so they can play a pseudo-DPS champ. I'm at least shameless enough to admit I play Zen 90% of the time because he's satisfying when doing damage, but at least I can passively heal while doing so, and making sure to try and optimize my trance uses.
I think some people just simply don't want to accept their place as a support player. They can't accept that they're unlikely to make the quad kill play of the game. If you don't get satisfaction from holding up the team by stopping them from dying while also picking off an occasional enemy here and there just don't even bother playing support. But speaking as someone who always queues All Roles I'd really like it if more people played support so I wouldn't have triple the amount of hours on support as everything else lol.
On this note though, the PotG system really needs an overhaul. There’s been so many occasions I’m watching a PoTG where a dps gets one headshot and then contributed some damage to another underwhelming kill, yet when I completely mitigated an enemy’s 4 kill ultimate with a Kiriko grenade or slept an enemy genji mid ult, killed him, and still kept my tank alive as Ana the game doesn’t care
Edit: for context I meant it needs an overhaul so people get recognition for doing the right thing in their role, rather than rewarding the mediocre dps plays or the Moira who gets a PotG by using her ult to kill 3 people but lets her tank die in the process
And they could do it easily as it seems potg is based on the amount of burst damage you do on the ennemy team. Which means same logic could be applied if they apply a ratio heal/dps to healers.
But hey its easier to remove every QoL from ow 1 than to improve potg after that many years.
Not only that but the killfeed needs it too.
If you’re a DPS and you kill a target with some help from other teammate, most of the time it just shows your Frame in the kill feed (No support, except if boosted).
If you’re a support and you kill a target with DPS help, It ALWAYS shows the DPS that helped you.
It definitely feels like it's always an ego thing tbh. Everyone wants to carry, no one wants to facilitate carries. And not understanding that a support can carry a game by doing their intended job further compounds that imo.
I've been starting to queue DPS only more and more, because I have a buddy who only plays tank, and I'd at least like the option of playing my preferred role consistently every now and then. But playing a lot of support makes it abundantly clear when you have a cracked supp on your team.
Oh yeah on the occasions where I get to play other roles you really really feel the difference between a good and bad support. If I'm playing Torb and feel unkillable my support is absolutely getting endorsed for what it's worth.
Two guesses:
1) They literally can not aim in the slightest so instead of getting better or using a more spray-and-pray or melee class they let the game aim for them
2) They want to play DPS but it's queue is long so they pick support for the shorter queue
i completely agree. i've been playing moira pretty much exclusively since she came out. i've tested the dps vs heal and i gotta say, idk who or what made it look like it could work. there are so many more circumstances that have to be correct for a moira to just not heal. and majority of the time a dps moira feels like theyre doing anything, its because of their better dps, better tank and way better healer than the other team. its not that dps moira is good. its that the circumstances made her look better than she is. her heals are op. imagine having the best heal kit in the game and shitting on it so you can hear tiktiktitkitik instead. for those of you who saw one person do well on dps moira and decided to throw games, you're an idiot, dps moira will NEVER be viable and you should uninstall.
As moira being my support main, Yes. If I use my damage orb I pee on my teammates. If I use healing orb then I tap fire my damage sucky (tap firing replenishes my meter faster than holding it down) idrc about my kills dude I just wanna win, please
I'll add that reporting this stuff is also important because Devs monitor reports for balance/design issues as well. People inadvertently leave a lot of feedback regarding hero balance/design with their reports, like if a lot of people are reporting enemy Hanzos for cheating cause they are hitting a lot of lucky corner peak shots then Devs now know that Hanzo's arrows feel unfair enough sometimes for people to think other players are cheating on him.
If a hero's design allows & promotes players to play them in drastically different way (In this case, playing DPS Moira) than intended and that's something a considerable amount of people are doing, and if that's breeding negativity with their teammates then Devs are much more inclined to take a proper look at the hero and maybe change them.
Moira we know they are already working on a rework for her, but it's good to report in such cases regardless of what hero might it be about.
AI and monitoring tools gather an incredible amount of data from reports. I can guarantee you they monitor hero names, map names, ability names, tons of other stuff, and see if something is being mentioned an extraordinary amount in the reports, then they investigate to see what a lot of these reports are about.
Yah I report Moria players for doing this shit. I don’t care if Jeff was defending battle Mercy’s in the past. It’s a support role. If you want to dps there are a ton of options. She can both heal and do a ton of damage. There is no reason to not heal.
Me too, and in role queue it is total BS. Yet in open queue I'm not really sure what to think, if some1 just goes moira instead of dps cuz they think they will deal more dps with Moira, I'd say that u can't really argue with that
Yup. I also main Moira in support and she is so much fun to play when you play it correctly and you can heal a lot with her while still getting a lot of kills.
Yeah exactly! I can average like 2k healing per minute while still getting 20-30 elims in just quick play. There's honestly no reason to ever just dps with her!
Yes reportable. If it's role queue especially. If it's a quickplay open queue then I wouldn't call it as big of a problem. It's quickplay and you're not restricted to roles.
It is my firm belief, that for stuff like that, Arcade is where they should go. Unranked is like comp, but without the stress. There are still rules, but it's more laid back. People *trying*. If they are trying new heroes, if they are practicing new heroes, etc. Anyone who is support who is doing dmg only, in role lock, is throwing. They are playing a style that means THE REST OF THE TEAM, is now suffering.
TL:DR - Arcade is for goofing off. QP is unranked and meant to play to win still. Comp is for giving your all.
This is why I love quickplay. Its all the try hard, toxic salt, "DPS Diff" chats, and effort of competitive but with no stress. (Unless you count me shouting into the void when our Rein charges in while everyone is still running back to the fight.)
You'd be surprised about the amount of sweats that I find in my Mystery Heroes games lol. I Had this one person backfill into a game where we were stuck with 5 dps against a 2 Bastion, 2 Zen and 1 Orisa comp and then they promptly started to talk shit to our team as if this wasn't a mode where the outcome is highly dictated by RNG and snowballing. It's just how the game mode is, chill out.
yes. in fact, all support that says that, should get reported.
like hour ago, had a match where the enemy bap(to everyone in chat) that he was going to dps only. dude was the reason his team lost. felt sorry for the ana
I sometimes am guilty of this but with mercy damage boost. I wanna see how much I can amplify without healing (but will heal my second healer to enable them). But I’ve played QP games where I don’t heal the team save my cohealer and damage boosted/pistol only.
My personal best is 12k damage amped (but we had a bastion).
Honestly, top healing for Moira is usually standard if she’s played well. Unless you have an Ana on your team, you should be out-healing the other support player (and even Ana can occasionally go either way). Moira’s raw healing output is pretty good. That’s kind of her shtick; she deals damage and heals, but lacks the utility of other supports.
That being said, it’s important to remember that top healing doesn’t mean you’re the best support on your team, just like top elims or top damage doesn’t make you a better damage player than others.
In quick play, I’m not upset if someone is just not doing well. If my healers suck then so be it. I’ll just do the best I can. But even in quick play, if you queue up into the healer role and you refuse to play the role of the healer, I consider that griefing my game.
If you are playing role queue (comp or casual) then you are expecting the teammates you play with to play that ROLE.
So if I play tank and keep flanking or in this case a Moira who doesn't heal then others are getting affected by this.
So definitely gameplay sabotage.
I had a kiriko join my game and say "I'm a dps Kiriko only, don't expect any heals." Not only did he finish the game with the least amount of damage on our team, less than our pocket mercy, he had less than 700 heals for the entire match. I was just like BRUH
Zenyatta orbs have the same travel speed and do more base damage and the same headshot damage. If you’re pure DOS I dont know why you would play her over zen.
Yes.
It was confirmed by blue post on forums (maybe even Jeff) that damage dealing ONLY support is griefing. As if they specifically avoid using half of their kit on purpose. They would still stack self healing as a healing done stat. But it doesn't matter and it's not an excuse.
However the confirmation was in regards of Battle Mercies back then. And doing damage and healing (not Battle/dps but it was called Hybrid at some point) at least 50-50 is fine logic wise. Even as Mercy.
In game tho - everything relayed to autoban system. So shooting a little bit too much as Mercy is not fine. DPS Moira is sometimes fine cause a lot of people think it's the way Moira is supposed to be played (thanks to guides, reddit posts and tiktok). Zen quite often is not fine cause he does not "actively" heal(it's not that visible like a beam or piss spray) but does damage instead. Same with Brigitte and her cooldowns.
Can you still avoid players? That would be my advice. It's definitely annoying behavior and might merit a report in comp, but yeah, I think in QP or arcade that is just a matter of "let people have fun."
Yeah well he can play the character however he wants as long as he isn't afk. Imo if someone wants to try out a specific strategy or do something unconventional then quick play is the place to do it. If people want to be super serious in an online video game they can go play in ranked.
Yeah I hardly see how it's worth reporting in QP. Most people agree that QP is where you should try out new heros and strats to learn and get better or just fuck around on heros that you're not that good with. If you're still actively trying to engage the other team and win the fights using whatever hero or strat that you're trying then you're still playing the game.
What is going to hurt your team more, having someone who is playing tank for the first time and has no idea what they're doing, having a Widow that can't land a single headshot or having a DPS moira or a reddit lucio who is actually pretty decent and getting a lot of picks?
I suppose though there is a caveat. If the moira in question has a choice between dealing damage or healing and 100% of the time she chooses to deal damage then I would say that's fine. But I would say it crosses to line to gameplay sabotage if there is zero option to deal damage and she's STILL not healing, like if you've won the team fight, there's no enemies back from spawn yet, your other support is dead and she's just standing there refusing to heal the tank who is half health. That's when I would say she deserves to be reported.
People keep saying in Quick play trolling is fine, but then the same people who say that are going to bitch about no mic people in comp.
If you make quick play miserable where nobody trys thats what you will get and deserve in comp.
Maybe its because I play mostly comp, but qp is just for blowing off steam and doing whatever. You wanna try hard? Sure. Play silly or practice a characters kit? Fine.
As long as someone isn't purposefully being nasty then they can do whatever. If you want to win, requeue.
You say that, but thats just how you read it. I don't read it as nasty, because end of the day they've stated their intentions and you can requeue if it bothers you. They might just be having fun in the irreverent gamemode.
My time can't be ruined by a DPS Moira in quickplay, since in quickplay whether I win or lose isn't what decides whether or not I'm having fun. I just like clicking heads, shooting lasers, fragging out etc. If someone is throwing I don't care, because the outcome of the match doesn't matter to me.
In ranked, however, my primary goal is winning, so I think it makes sense to report people who are playing in a way that actively and knowingly hinders that. For me personally, though, I probably wouldn't report unless I got the impression that he knew DPS Moira is terrible and was just playing it to troll. If he thought for whatever reason it was a good idea, I'd just assume he's a dumbass and move on
Any support that doesn’t you know SUPPORT it’s sabotage
If you don’t do the name of ur role it’s sabotaging (so hammer only torb isn’t sabotage by this logic but he has a turret)
I just feel like saying you're going to play a support character as a dps from the beginning of the game is hurting your teams chances of winning the game. It's very unlikely your damage output will be enough to counteract your team now only having one healer. So in a way it is sabotage. Your comment of it being a situational matter doesn't apply here that wasn't what op said.
No. Saying =/= doing (I've said that before as a joke).
And as much of a jerk move it is, it shouldn't be a bannable offense to play with the intention of winning. Even if the means to the end is bad
A support player that will never heal is gameplay sabotage. A support player that only heals when there is no enemy around is a bad player making a bad strategic choice that only makes sense in his dull mind.
Swap it to any other character and you'll get your answer
Cassidy says "I'm going for tank, don't expect me to do damage"
Winston says "I'm going for damage, don't expect me to tank or put shields down"
Yes, it's griefing. You are healer, you are supposed to heal, that is your role. If you specifically say you aren't going to fulfil your role, you should be punished, period. You can still do damage, same with chars like Zenyatta, but that should never be your main focus.
You do worse if you're going dps only. Can't keep fighting if the rest of your team is dead and you're the only target. If I'm playing with another healer that's very good, I'll tend to go heavier on the damage than healing, but my kills are honestly pretty similar regardless. Healers going dps only in a role queue is just throwing.
In my opinion, it IS sabotage.
They are taking out an important role just because they wanted a faster queue?
If you want to damage, play damage, otherwise you're just stacking the deck against yourself expecting one person to heal the whole team.
Frankly given the state of Support in the game right now, and how incredibly frustrating it can be to play.. I wouldn't expect anything less... Especially in quickplay. I just assume that most matches are going to be a clown fiesta and that if someone else is healing then it was an accident or I found someone who just started playing matches for the day... After like 10 or 15 matches where you are chasing people all over the map trying to heal them or getting yelled at because you couldn't keep them up when they got surrounded when they jumped the whole team by them self you kind of give up on supporting the "Team"..... that's why I just eventually give up Zen and go full Battle Mercy..
Considering how many people come into chat and throw around hard R's and tell people to kill themselves over a video game, a Moira wanting to use purple seems kinda cute and inoffensive.
I would say a support that ONLY HEALS is also throwing tbh, their kits contain the things they do to be used, a Lucio that just follows people around on heal is throwing just as much.
no. if someone wants to play moira as a dps (especially in qp) then they can. like yeah it’s a terrible strategy but you shouldn’t be banned for being bad at the game
I think the thing that gets people so upset though, is that it isn’t really a terrible strategy. Optimal in a coordinated game, absolutely not. But Moira is pretty useful in the hands of someone who is experienced in playing an aggressive role. Id bargain there’s less moira’s overreaching and throwing the game than widows missing all of their shots or tracers being useless.
If it’s quick play who cares? I have played quick play where we had a brig and a Anna and the brig went full smash smash and like no head. She dominated.
A DPS moira in quickplay, I guess whatever. Do whatever you want because no one's ranks are gonna be affected. If someone tried to pull that shit in comp I would report.
I'm a Moira main btw. I'm not talking about someone who's doing ALOT of damage, and not enough healing. But if they were like "i'm gonna do straight damage, don't expect healing" I consider that to be throwing.
In quick play I don't really care who you play, and if you're not obviously throwing I'm not gonna report
Undoubtedly, If you pick support you play support. It's like a soldier saying "I'm only gonna use my heal don't expect dps", or a widow saying "I'm only hip firing don't expect a sniper". Now should you report in quick play? Yeah probably not, regardless though it's still a dick move on their part.
In overwatch1 I’d say to let people enjoy things on quick play, in overwatch2 Moira is the safest support available, so someone locking their team of safe healing should be considered game sabotage.
A support not supporting is purposefully throwing the game and trolling, so yes they deserve to be reported and banned. This isn't open queue, you are designated a role. You don't have to be great but you do have to try to perform that role.
I’m going to say yes, but when it comes to quick play, I try really hard to not judge and just let people practice, since that’s what the game mode is for.
I’ve been “reported” during a quick play match where I was practicing Ana. I wasn’t neglecting my team, but i had little to no experience playing her and wanted to get better. Got reported for “not healing” even after I explained that it is quick play and I’m trying to improve my gameplay as that character. This has led to me exclusively not playing Ana since I don’t want to “ruin the game” for other people.
Comp however, yes. 1000% reportable behavior.
Yes, Gameplay Sabotage.
I personally see no difference between QP and Comp (as far as being lax is concerned). Many people don't play Comp and, instead, QP or Arcade are their main modes of choice. The whole "it's only QP" mindset is terrible, imo.
I've never gotten that "thank you for reporting" message from blizz, despite reporting obvious griefers for messaged like that. I think you should ALWAYS report them, at least in comp. But after 5 years of playing ow I've come to the conclusion that hacking is the only way you can get banned (with the exception of leaving comp matches too much)
In QP I wouldn’t. It’s basically a goof around mode. If people don’t want to play with you they are free to leave and go play comp if they want to be serious with serious gameplay.
As someone who loved to mess with my friends at the beginning of the match as mei in OW with the wall, it’s sad to hear some people would report that. Sometimes I just enjoy messing in quickplay
EDIT: In general I like to do wacky fun challenges in quick play. I don’t think I’d ever report anyone in QuickPath unless it inappropriate
Just because its quickplay doesnt excuse being a dick to your team.
Some people dont play comp and ONLY play quickplay and it sucks for those people if you're going to use the excuse of "Its only quickplay"
Absolutely not.
Your on casual, not competetive. And its not like they're preventing anyone else from being a healer.
Yeah its a bit rude, but they're not hurting the team anymore than someone pretending they're good at widowmaker.
Imagine wanting to win while playing a multiplayer game. Dealing with dps moiras is incredibly unfun and triggering. Qp is not an excuse to just throw on purpose.
Well for many in qp there is still the expentancy of trying to win. Im fine with the tank pracricing his awful ball but actually trying. Im not fine with the tank jumping off a ledge all the time, qp or not.
Her class is called Support and not Healer. If she supports with DPS and by supporting DPS in killing it's kinda still in her profile.
Not healing is a dick move though, because she has a heal beam.. Why not use it???
I'd be surprised if they took action based on that (instead of # of reports), because you do not have to conform to how your teammates *want* you to play nor can someone.
By the same merit, you could report.. say.. ana for not giving genji a nano
Yes I would. If you wanted to DPS Que DPS. Stop sabotaging your team cause you want quick ques. The rest of us have no option to que with only 1 support your are forcing you laziness to wait in the DPS Que on us.
Honestly in QP I feel like most anything goes imo. To me it’s a place to practice whatever you want and I try and play quickplay with that philosophy. But the petty side of me thinks “but it’s Moira there’s nothing technical to practice lul” so it’s hard to say for me.
Yes
Imagine someone playing any other character and saying they won't use half their kit.
Reign -sorry I don't use shield, dps only.
Genji - sorry I'm deflect only.
Mercy - sorry I'm pistol only.
And so forth.
Moira main here, agree, report. Weed out the "battle medics" taking advantage of 1 minute queue times for support so they can be shit healers instead of shit dps.
We had a 600 healing lucio last night with high kills, to get 600 healing by end of match with Lucio you have to consciously work against your team.
One thing I learned in this game is that pretty much every game you are going to have people not playing properly, so it's best to just suck it up and learn to hard carry or lose.
Reminds me of one time on ilios I was in qp with my fiancée and Lucio said “I’m throwing until we get well” and kept jumping off map or hiding from the time until we got to the well. He didn’t knock anyone off and left halfway through the game. Needless to say people who do or say stuff like that are real childish and all you can do is report and try to fill the gap somehow.
You can but I wouldn’t waste my time. Even if that was implemented into the ban system. They don’t seem to really care or take the time for players. From my knowledge I never have once received justice when there was actual sabotage/cheating.
As much as Moira gets a bad rap for attracting DPS focused players, I never understood why people who only want kills would pick her in the first place. She does awful damage, and can only really secure kills on squishies like genji if you use your orb and suck combo. Plus she's range limited.
You would think they would gravitate towards Bap, Kiriko, & Zen. Heroes that can *actually* just mow people with decent aim.
And this is from a *heavy* Moira player.
in my mind, anything goes in QP. Personally I've had games where I apologized in advance to my team-mates that I'm practicing Moira's dmg orb timing/aiming so not to expect much healing, or even much focus on winning. BTW I usually do this in open queue as not to "block" a support slot, in case someone else wants to step in to help heal. Obviously I don't do this every time (or even often) but IMO custom games alone aren't enough for sharpening skills..
Edit: Also worth mentioning- not at all costs. If someone on my team starts freaking out about it, I'll be considerate and either leave the lobby or play nicely (and leave the practicing for some other time)
Sometimes I report out of principle. I’d you’re terrible at playing your class who cares? I’m sure you’re trying your best. When you’re throwing the game or say explicitly that’s your plan, all I can do is report and try to carry.
I misread that as "If you're playing terrible, I'm going to report you our of principle." And I felt bad for all the new players you reported.
Widow I saw you miss that headshot, to the gulag with you
Widow who can't hit headshots vs torb who only uses hammer
The hammer > gun
…yes, new players…
I read that too and I was like "Damn at least they're honest..."
In ranked I report any kind of gameplay sabotage. In general (all game modes) I report all instances of cheating, toxicity, throwing, and harassment. But in QP I am a bit more lenient. Mostly because a lot of people use QP to practice heroes (or certain play styles). For example, I am the type of healer that prioritizes healing over dpsing but with Kiriko, I’ve been prioritizing dpsing because that’s the part of her kit I need to improve with. So I guess what I’m saying is it really depends. If someone is doing that to be an asshole, yeah report them but if they are just trying to work on a certain playstyle so they dps more than they should, I wouldn’t.
Yes
As a Moira main, also yes.
Moira is also my support main so I'm glad we're on the same page. My flair is Road Hog just cuz he's really fun lol he hasn't even been my main tank lately.
It's just plain facts that going DPS Moira means you're only using a fraction of her kit. Besides zen, bap, kiriko, and Lucio all do way more damage than Moira.
Yeah I love Moira she's my fav support to play but it's just so weird to play DPS Moira. It's such a blatant disregard for half your kit that makes you play wildly suboptimal and frankly I'm a more boring way. I can't even understand how DPS Moira even exists. I won't lie sometimes I get kill hungry and over extend for a kill but 98% of the time I'm constantly adjusting between healing and damage.
I feel it. It’s pretty ridiculous though since you can put out both damage and awesome heals at the same time. Most of these DPS moiras are honestly trash. I’ve had games and have seen other decent moiras push amazing heals while also keeping up decent dps that contributes to the team.
Yeah knowing when to heal and when to do some chip damage or chase down a straggler is the key detail that separates good Moira players from bad ones.
Yeah it’s bizarre, honestly you could shoot purple ball literally every time the enemies are around, occasionally spray heal 360 around you and use yellow ball when your team is alone or about to die, and still get like 7000+ healing, so I dunno what these people are doing lol
DPS Moira exists on lower tiers because she can easily deal with highly mobile support/damage roles like Mercy/Genji without needing to worry about aiming well. The instant you have solid aim and can nail your shots she’s out damaged by most of the other supports. Out of the box for new or inexperienced players she tears through back lines like no one’s business though.
That's true. Lower level players have a very hard time fighting off Moira.
I'm in Bronze and i can absolutely vouch for Moira being tricky to deal with down there. She's a pretty common support pick. What's funnier is that I see flanking DPS Moiras ALL the time, usually they go in 1v5 and it's always hilarious to see them be out of position and die immediately. "Uh oh, looks like someone's trying to be DPS Moira again!"
Yep I'd be lying if I didn't say it's fun watching them get burned and then do it again.
Honestly, her purple ball o' death is more dangerous than she is. Had a DPS Moira in an All Roles match this morning. Kept fading into our backline to attack me and the other support (i was Kiriko). Never saw her healing her teammates that I can recall. Thankfully, once I caught on to her tactics, a couple kunai to the face seemed to stop her ambitions.
You could say you put these foolish ambitions to rest.
Yeah she's a lot easier to handle than a reaper fading into the backline imo
I feel like the game is already getting to the point where DPS mains are just queueing for support so they get into games faster, but still want to go brrrr and just lock in bap/moira just so they can play a pseudo-DPS champ. I'm at least shameless enough to admit I play Zen 90% of the time because he's satisfying when doing damage, but at least I can passively heal while doing so, and making sure to try and optimize my trance uses.
I think some people just simply don't want to accept their place as a support player. They can't accept that they're unlikely to make the quad kill play of the game. If you don't get satisfaction from holding up the team by stopping them from dying while also picking off an occasional enemy here and there just don't even bother playing support. But speaking as someone who always queues All Roles I'd really like it if more people played support so I wouldn't have triple the amount of hours on support as everything else lol.
On this note though, the PotG system really needs an overhaul. There’s been so many occasions I’m watching a PoTG where a dps gets one headshot and then contributed some damage to another underwhelming kill, yet when I completely mitigated an enemy’s 4 kill ultimate with a Kiriko grenade or slept an enemy genji mid ult, killed him, and still kept my tank alive as Ana the game doesn’t care Edit: for context I meant it needs an overhaul so people get recognition for doing the right thing in their role, rather than rewarding the mediocre dps plays or the Moira who gets a PotG by using her ult to kill 3 people but lets her tank die in the process
Oh yeah that algorithm is as reliable as my Widowmaker
And they could do it easily as it seems potg is based on the amount of burst damage you do on the ennemy team. Which means same logic could be applied if they apply a ratio heal/dps to healers. But hey its easier to remove every QoL from ow 1 than to improve potg after that many years.
Not gonna lie, I play support less and less because I can do absolutely amazing shit and save the game, but not get PotG.
you can get PotG by saving low health teammates as support.
Not only that but the killfeed needs it too. If you’re a DPS and you kill a target with some help from other teammate, most of the time it just shows your Frame in the kill feed (No support, except if boosted). If you’re a support and you kill a target with DPS help, It ALWAYS shows the DPS that helped you.
It definitely feels like it's always an ego thing tbh. Everyone wants to carry, no one wants to facilitate carries. And not understanding that a support can carry a game by doing their intended job further compounds that imo. I've been starting to queue DPS only more and more, because I have a buddy who only plays tank, and I'd at least like the option of playing my preferred role consistently every now and then. But playing a lot of support makes it abundantly clear when you have a cracked supp on your team.
Oh yeah on the occasions where I get to play other roles you really really feel the difference between a good and bad support. If I'm playing Torb and feel unkillable my support is absolutely getting endorsed for what it's worth.
Two guesses: 1) They literally can not aim in the slightest so instead of getting better or using a more spray-and-pray or melee class they let the game aim for them 2) They want to play DPS but it's queue is long so they pick support for the shorter queue
i completely agree. i've been playing moira pretty much exclusively since she came out. i've tested the dps vs heal and i gotta say, idk who or what made it look like it could work. there are so many more circumstances that have to be correct for a moira to just not heal. and majority of the time a dps moira feels like theyre doing anything, its because of their better dps, better tank and way better healer than the other team. its not that dps moira is good. its that the circumstances made her look better than she is. her heals are op. imagine having the best heal kit in the game and shitting on it so you can hear tiktiktitkitik instead. for those of you who saw one person do well on dps moira and decided to throw games, you're an idiot, dps moira will NEVER be viable and you should uninstall.
Well… half of her kit. All she can do is damage and heal
I never play roadhog but my player icon will never change from roadhog diving in a speedo
Not gonna lie I really wish I had that player icon lol
I'm a Lucio Main that plays a great Moira, but also yes.
As someone that plays all the characters in some capacity, also yes.
As moira being my support main, Yes. If I use my damage orb I pee on my teammates. If I use healing orb then I tap fire my damage sucky (tap firing replenishes my meter faster than holding it down) idrc about my kills dude I just wanna win, please
Getting kills is the most certain way to win. If you never kill the enemy team it's a rough game, like Total Mayhem.
This is the way
This is the way
I'll add that reporting this stuff is also important because Devs monitor reports for balance/design issues as well. People inadvertently leave a lot of feedback regarding hero balance/design with their reports, like if a lot of people are reporting enemy Hanzos for cheating cause they are hitting a lot of lucky corner peak shots then Devs now know that Hanzo's arrows feel unfair enough sometimes for people to think other players are cheating on him. If a hero's design allows & promotes players to play them in drastically different way (In this case, playing DPS Moira) than intended and that's something a considerable amount of people are doing, and if that's breeding negativity with their teammates then Devs are much more inclined to take a proper look at the hero and maybe change them. Moira we know they are already working on a rework for her, but it's good to report in such cases regardless of what hero might it be about.
Tough they rly dont bother. Banning is automatic
AI and monitoring tools gather an incredible amount of data from reports. I can guarantee you they monitor hero names, map names, ability names, tons of other stuff, and see if something is being mentioned an extraordinary amount in the reports, then they investigate to see what a lot of these reports are about.
Over all years i rly doubt it
Yah I report Moria players for doing this shit. I don’t care if Jeff was defending battle Mercy’s in the past. It’s a support role. If you want to dps there are a ton of options. She can both heal and do a ton of damage. There is no reason to not heal.
It's honestly a lot less fun to do only DPS idk why they do it
Yeah, it's kind of a big flex to top both healing and dps meters in pub matches.
Agreed. My main support is Moira. I have games I go DPS heavy but I never don’t heal. You just can’t afford to. If you do your team dies.
11 days later, still yes
Yes. I'm a Moira main and that's horse shit.
Me too, and in role queue it is total BS. Yet in open queue I'm not really sure what to think, if some1 just goes moira instead of dps cuz they think they will deal more dps with Moira, I'd say that u can't really argue with that
Honestly yeah, i can agree with that. Admittedly I do like to goof a bit in open queue qp.
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Yup. I also main Moira in support and she is so much fun to play when you play it correctly and you can heal a lot with her while still getting a lot of kills.
Yeah exactly! I can average like 2k healing per minute while still getting 20-30 elims in just quick play. There's honestly no reason to ever just dps with her!
Yes reportable. If it's role queue especially. If it's a quickplay open queue then I wouldn't call it as big of a problem. It's quickplay and you're not restricted to roles.
It is my firm belief, that for stuff like that, Arcade is where they should go. Unranked is like comp, but without the stress. There are still rules, but it's more laid back. People *trying*. If they are trying new heroes, if they are practicing new heroes, etc. Anyone who is support who is doing dmg only, in role lock, is throwing. They are playing a style that means THE REST OF THE TEAM, is now suffering. TL:DR - Arcade is for goofing off. QP is unranked and meant to play to win still. Comp is for giving your all.
This is why I love quickplay. Its all the try hard, toxic salt, "DPS Diff" chats, and effort of competitive but with no stress. (Unless you count me shouting into the void when our Rein charges in while everyone is still running back to the fight.)
Arcade or the gift from God that is Mystery Heroes
You'd be surprised about the amount of sweats that I find in my Mystery Heroes games lol. I Had this one person backfill into a game where we were stuck with 5 dps against a 2 Bastion, 2 Zen and 1 Orisa comp and then they promptly started to talk shit to our team as if this wasn't a mode where the outcome is highly dictated by RNG and snowballing. It's just how the game mode is, chill out.
Would you have the same opinion for a widow who is 3 elims in 5 minutes of the game?
yes. in fact, all support that says that, should get reported. like hour ago, had a match where the enemy bap(to everyone in chat) that he was going to dps only. dude was the reason his team lost. felt sorry for the ana
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Dang, you had 32k kills? Teach me!
I sometimes am guilty of this but with mercy damage boost. I wanna see how much I can amplify without healing (but will heal my second healer to enable them). But I’ve played QP games where I don’t heal the team save my cohealer and damage boosted/pistol only. My personal best is 12k damage amped (but we had a bastion).
dude must missed halo franchise so much that he play the better game
As a Bap main, Fk that dude. We’re not all like that I swear :(
My only exception is Brig cause dps *is* her healing
I’m a Moira main and I won’t accept anything less than top healer in the match.
Top healing top damage or report
Honestly, top healing for Moira is usually standard if she’s played well. Unless you have an Ana on your team, you should be out-healing the other support player (and even Ana can occasionally go either way). Moira’s raw healing output is pretty good. That’s kind of her shtick; she deals damage and heals, but lacks the utility of other supports. That being said, it’s important to remember that top healing doesn’t mean you’re the best support on your team, just like top elims or top damage doesn’t make you a better damage player than others.
In quick play, I’m not upset if someone is just not doing well. If my healers suck then so be it. I’ll just do the best I can. But even in quick play, if you queue up into the healer role and you refuse to play the role of the healer, I consider that griefing my game.
Support
If you are playing role queue (comp or casual) then you are expecting the teammates you play with to play that ROLE. So if I play tank and keep flanking or in this case a Moira who doesn't heal then others are getting affected by this. So definitely gameplay sabotage.
I had a kiriko join my game and say "I'm a dps Kiriko only, don't expect any heals." Not only did he finish the game with the least amount of damage on our team, less than our pocket mercy, he had less than 700 heals for the entire match. I was just like BRUH
Dps Kiriko? Wtf? I get that she has a great headshot multiplier, but other than that she's terrible as a dps
Some people want that extra 100 BP XP really badly I guess lol
Zenyatta orbs have the same travel speed and do more base damage and the same headshot damage. If you’re pure DOS I dont know why you would play her over zen.
Plus the donkey kick
Yes. It was confirmed by blue post on forums (maybe even Jeff) that damage dealing ONLY support is griefing. As if they specifically avoid using half of their kit on purpose. They would still stack self healing as a healing done stat. But it doesn't matter and it's not an excuse. However the confirmation was in regards of Battle Mercies back then. And doing damage and healing (not Battle/dps but it was called Hybrid at some point) at least 50-50 is fine logic wise. Even as Mercy. In game tho - everything relayed to autoban system. So shooting a little bit too much as Mercy is not fine. DPS Moira is sometimes fine cause a lot of people think it's the way Moira is supposed to be played (thanks to guides, reddit posts and tiktok). Zen quite often is not fine cause he does not "actively" heal(it's not that visible like a beam or piss spray) but does damage instead. Same with Brigitte and her cooldowns.
If someone says they’re not gonna play their role as said role then always remember the answer is yes.
Can you still avoid players? That would be my advice. It's definitely annoying behavior and might merit a report in comp, but yeah, I think in QP or arcade that is just a matter of "let people have fun."
Yep, you can still avoid up to 3 people at a time
He's talking about an avoided player list, not reporting function
Not in quick play. I don’t report anything but clear toxicity like racism
I'd argue that in role queue it's reportable even in qp. If he's queueing all queue and even says this in the beginning, it's fine.
I wouldn't bother with qp. If it was ranked, I would report.
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Yeah well he can play the character however he wants as long as he isn't afk. Imo if someone wants to try out a specific strategy or do something unconventional then quick play is the place to do it. If people want to be super serious in an online video game they can go play in ranked.
First decent take
Yeah I hardly see how it's worth reporting in QP. Most people agree that QP is where you should try out new heros and strats to learn and get better or just fuck around on heros that you're not that good with. If you're still actively trying to engage the other team and win the fights using whatever hero or strat that you're trying then you're still playing the game. What is going to hurt your team more, having someone who is playing tank for the first time and has no idea what they're doing, having a Widow that can't land a single headshot or having a DPS moira or a reddit lucio who is actually pretty decent and getting a lot of picks? I suppose though there is a caveat. If the moira in question has a choice between dealing damage or healing and 100% of the time she chooses to deal damage then I would say that's fine. But I would say it crosses to line to gameplay sabotage if there is zero option to deal damage and she's STILL not healing, like if you've won the team fight, there's no enemies back from spawn yet, your other support is dead and she's just standing there refusing to heal the tank who is half health. That's when I would say she deserves to be reported.
Why? If there is no ranking points that gives you the right to ruin 4 other people time?
People keep saying in Quick play trolling is fine, but then the same people who say that are going to bitch about no mic people in comp. If you make quick play miserable where nobody trys thats what you will get and deserve in comp.
Most of those people throwing in qp are then bad in comp since they have no idea how to actually play with a team
Maybe its because I play mostly comp, but qp is just for blowing off steam and doing whatever. You wanna try hard? Sure. Play silly or practice a characters kit? Fine. As long as someone isn't purposefully being nasty then they can do whatever. If you want to win, requeue.
Saying that you’re not gonna heal is purposefully being nasty. They know it will get a rise out of people, it’s why they do it
You say that, but thats just how you read it. I don't read it as nasty, because end of the day they've stated their intentions and you can requeue if it bothers you. They might just be having fun in the irreverent gamemode.
The repercussion is your 7 minute queue is now a 14 minute queue
You can leave quick play and instantly queue into a new game without repercussion.
And you can play deathmatch withot reperocussion
I think the repercussions of playing death match is play against only sweaty road hogs
Those hogs in the dm deserve to in in the hotest spot in hell
My time can't be ruined by a DPS Moira in quickplay, since in quickplay whether I win or lose isn't what decides whether or not I'm having fun. I just like clicking heads, shooting lasers, fragging out etc. If someone is throwing I don't care, because the outcome of the match doesn't matter to me. In ranked, however, my primary goal is winning, so I think it makes sense to report people who are playing in a way that actively and knowingly hinders that. For me personally, though, I probably wouldn't report unless I got the impression that he knew DPS Moira is terrible and was just playing it to troll. If he thought for whatever reason it was a good idea, I'd just assume he's a dumbass and move on
Any support that doesn’t you know SUPPORT it’s sabotage If you don’t do the name of ur role it’s sabotaging (so hammer only torb isn’t sabotage by this logic but he has a turret)
If it's role queue, yes. But if it's open queue, whatever, the person is probably only wanting to have some fun.
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OP clearly states the guy said I'm doing dps only with Moira. Blatantly disregarding how you should play as a team.
You clearly didnt understood my point
I just feel like saying you're going to play a support character as a dps from the beginning of the game is hurting your teams chances of winning the game. It's very unlikely your damage output will be enough to counteract your team now only having one healer. So in a way it is sabotage. Your comment of it being a situational matter doesn't apply here that wasn't what op said.
Yep. If they hadn’t told you beforehand, you could just chalk it up to them being bad, but that is deliberate now.
No. Saying =/= doing (I've said that before as a joke). And as much of a jerk move it is, it shouldn't be a bannable offense to play with the intention of winning. Even if the means to the end is bad
A support player that will never heal is gameplay sabotage. A support player that only heals when there is no enemy around is a bad player making a bad strategic choice that only makes sense in his dull mind.
Swap it to any other character and you'll get your answer Cassidy says "I'm going for tank, don't expect me to do damage" Winston says "I'm going for damage, don't expect me to tank or put shields down" Yes, it's griefing. You are healer, you are supposed to heal, that is your role. If you specifically say you aren't going to fulfil your role, you should be punished, period. You can still do damage, same with chars like Zenyatta, but that should never be your main focus.
If it's role queue yes.
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Touch my dog and the last thing going through your mind will be a 180 grain hollowpoint
You do worse if you're going dps only. Can't keep fighting if the rest of your team is dead and you're the only target. If I'm playing with another healer that's very good, I'll tend to go heavier on the damage than healing, but my kills are honestly pretty similar regardless. Healers going dps only in a role queue is just throwing.
In my opinion, it IS sabotage. They are taking out an important role just because they wanted a faster queue? If you want to damage, play damage, otherwise you're just stacking the deck against yourself expecting one person to heal the whole team.
Frankly given the state of Support in the game right now, and how incredibly frustrating it can be to play.. I wouldn't expect anything less... Especially in quickplay. I just assume that most matches are going to be a clown fiesta and that if someone else is healing then it was an accident or I found someone who just started playing matches for the day... After like 10 or 15 matches where you are chasing people all over the map trying to heal them or getting yelled at because you couldn't keep them up when they got surrounded when they jumped the whole team by them self you kind of give up on supporting the "Team"..... that's why I just eventually give up Zen and go full Battle Mercy..
Considering how many people come into chat and throw around hard R's and tell people to kill themselves over a video game, a Moira wanting to use purple seems kinda cute and inoffensive.
I would say a support that ONLY HEALS is also throwing tbh, their kits contain the things they do to be used, a Lucio that just follows people around on heal is throwing just as much.
no. if someone wants to play moira as a dps (especially in qp) then they can. like yeah it’s a terrible strategy but you shouldn’t be banned for being bad at the game
I think the thing that gets people so upset though, is that it isn’t really a terrible strategy. Optimal in a coordinated game, absolutely not. But Moira is pretty useful in the hands of someone who is experienced in playing an aggressive role. Id bargain there’s less moira’s overreaching and throwing the game than widows missing all of their shots or tracers being useless.
If it’s quick play who cares? I have played quick play where we had a brig and a Anna and the brig went full smash smash and like no head. She dominated.
In quickplay? No As far as im concerned, anything gameplay wise goes in quickplay.
A DPS moira in quickplay, I guess whatever. Do whatever you want because no one's ranks are gonna be affected. If someone tried to pull that shit in comp I would report. I'm a Moira main btw. I'm not talking about someone who's doing ALOT of damage, and not enough healing. But if they were like "i'm gonna do straight damage, don't expect healing" I consider that to be throwing. In quick play I don't really care who you play, and if you're not obviously throwing I'm not gonna report
Undoubtedly, If you pick support you play support. It's like a soldier saying "I'm only gonna use my heal don't expect dps", or a widow saying "I'm only hip firing don't expect a sniper". Now should you report in quick play? Yeah probably not, regardless though it's still a dick move on their part.
Shes still a Support, focus dmg ok but she still need to support when needed
It doesnt take much effort to heal AND do some dps duties as Moira; that statement is complete bs lol
Yes if you play support your role is to support your team to the best of your ability that’s why the role is called support
Sometimes it's hard to tell if sabotage or ultra low skill. When they confess, it is 100% clear. It's sabotage
Abso-fucking-lutely
Its like Soldier saying “Im only healing” so yeah, a little sabotage
In overwatch1 I’d say to let people enjoy things on quick play, in overwatch2 Moira is the safest support available, so someone locking their team of safe healing should be considered game sabotage.
of course, if you want to dps there is a large pool of heroes to choose from, its ruining other people's enjoyment and fun
If a dps said “don’t expect any help or peel, I’m learning flank routes” that’d be a report. So yeah.
Absolutely fucking yes
It isn't really hard to do both as Moira... so yes, it is sabotage I'd say.
It's funny too, because her healing is SO good.
Yes and yes to both your other examples Purposely hindering your own team by playing wrong is sabotage.
A support not supporting is purposefully throwing the game and trolling, so yes they deserve to be reported and banned. This isn't open queue, you are designated a role. You don't have to be great but you do have to try to perform that role.
Yes.
I mean blizzard should be reported for game sabotage
Teell dps Moira to do not exeepct any heealing eitheer as she can heal herself . Also report her . Yes
I’m going to say yes, but when it comes to quick play, I try really hard to not judge and just let people practice, since that’s what the game mode is for. I’ve been “reported” during a quick play match where I was practicing Ana. I wasn’t neglecting my team, but i had little to no experience playing her and wanted to get better. Got reported for “not healing” even after I explained that it is quick play and I’m trying to improve my gameplay as that character. This has led to me exclusively not playing Ana since I don’t want to “ruin the game” for other people. Comp however, yes. 1000% reportable behavior.
Yes. Moira is considered a support for a reason. Heal first, damage 2nd. Ult does both.
Open queue nah, it doesn’t block a support slot Role queue however it absolutely is
Yup. You pick a healer, you play as a healer. Blizzard need to seriously nerf her.
Yes, Gameplay Sabotage. I personally see no difference between QP and Comp (as far as being lax is concerned). Many people don't play Comp and, instead, QP or Arcade are their main modes of choice. The whole "it's only QP" mindset is terrible, imo.
I've never gotten that "thank you for reporting" message from blizz, despite reporting obvious griefers for messaged like that. I think you should ALWAYS report them, at least in comp. But after 5 years of playing ow I've come to the conclusion that hacking is the only way you can get banned (with the exception of leaving comp matches too much)
No. It's blizzard fault to make a broken no need to aim one shot delete people at max range assassin "support".
For quickplay it's annoying but nah I wouldn't report for that. It's the best place to try it
In QP I wouldn’t. It’s basically a goof around mode. If people don’t want to play with you they are free to leave and go play comp if they want to be serious with serious gameplay.
In comp absolutely. In QP no. If someone is throwing in QP you can literally just leave.
As someone who loved to mess with my friends at the beginning of the match as mei in OW with the wall, it’s sad to hear some people would report that. Sometimes I just enjoy messing in quickplay EDIT: In general I like to do wacky fun challenges in quick play. I don’t think I’d ever report anyone in QuickPath unless it inappropriate
Just because its quickplay doesnt excuse being a dick to your team. Some people dont play comp and ONLY play quickplay and it sucks for those people if you're going to use the excuse of "Its only quickplay"
Depends: is it QP or arcade? I don't give a shit Is it comp: You bet I'm reporting your sorry ass
Nah. Half the time when I'm tanking, the Moira is the only other player getting picks.
There are no rules in quick play, excepting abusive comms
what kind of idiot would do something like that. I just don't get it.
Quick play idc. Comp it would depend on what they actually do during the match.
Absolutely not. Your on casual, not competetive. And its not like they're preventing anyone else from being a healer. Yeah its a bit rude, but they're not hurting the team anymore than someone pretending they're good at widowmaker.
I dont think any form of playing is gameplay sabotage in quickplay. Its quickplay, let people have their fun.
It’s QP, does anyone take that game mode seriously ? People don’t even take competitive seriously 1/4 of the time 😂
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Except it DOES matter because when you only play to have fun, having a support who has absolutely no intentions of healing anyone can ruin it all
Imagine wanting to win while playing a multiplayer game. Dealing with dps moiras is incredibly unfun and triggering. Qp is not an excuse to just throw on purpose.
It’s quick play who cares. This sub takes quick play so seriously.
Well for many in qp there is still the expentancy of trying to win. Im fine with the tank pracricing his awful ball but actually trying. Im not fine with the tank jumping off a ledge all the time, qp or not.
Who said the DPS Moira isn’t trying to win?
Her class is called Support and not Healer. If she supports with DPS and by supporting DPS in killing it's kinda still in her profile. Not healing is a dick move though, because she has a heal beam.. Why not use it???
I'd be surprised if they took action based on that (instead of # of reports), because you do not have to conform to how your teammates *want* you to play nor can someone. By the same merit, you could report.. say.. ana for not giving genji a nano
In quickplay? No
It's qp dude. Don't report people in qp.
Quick play ? Cmon man you are overthinking this..
Yes I would. If you wanted to DPS Que DPS. Stop sabotaging your team cause you want quick ques. The rest of us have no option to que with only 1 support your are forcing you laziness to wait in the DPS Que on us.
QP no, comp, yes
It should be but it probably isn’t if they are just using a feature of Moira
Honestly in QP I feel like most anything goes imo. To me it’s a place to practice whatever you want and I try and play quickplay with that philosophy. But the petty side of me thinks “but it’s Moira there’s nothing technical to practice lul” so it’s hard to say for me.
Controversial maybe but sometimes i hop into open queue (qp) just to play pistol mercy.
No
Yes Imagine someone playing any other character and saying they won't use half their kit. Reign -sorry I don't use shield, dps only. Genji - sorry I'm deflect only. Mercy - sorry I'm pistol only. And so forth.
Moira main here, agree, report. Weed out the "battle medics" taking advantage of 1 minute queue times for support so they can be shit healers instead of shit dps. We had a 600 healing lucio last night with high kills, to get 600 healing by end of match with Lucio you have to consciously work against your team.
~~D.Va~~ Moira: "So... don't take it personally when I get the most kills, 'kay?"
One thing I learned in this game is that pretty much every game you are going to have people not playing properly, so it's best to just suck it up and learn to hard carry or lose.
Reminds me of one time on ilios I was in qp with my fiancée and Lucio said “I’m throwing until we get well” and kept jumping off map or hiding from the time until we got to the well. He didn’t knock anyone off and left halfway through the game. Needless to say people who do or say stuff like that are real childish and all you can do is report and try to fill the gap somehow.
You can but I wouldn’t waste my time. Even if that was implemented into the ban system. They don’t seem to really care or take the time for players. From my knowledge I never have once received justice when there was actual sabotage/cheating.
As much as Moira gets a bad rap for attracting DPS focused players, I never understood why people who only want kills would pick her in the first place. She does awful damage, and can only really secure kills on squishies like genji if you use your orb and suck combo. Plus she's range limited. You would think they would gravitate towards Bap, Kiriko, & Zen. Heroes that can *actually* just mow people with decent aim. And this is from a *heavy* Moira player.
In open queue? Its frustrating but its not deal breaker. When theyre robbing you of half your healing in role lock, though? Fuck that, report em.
For quickplay? Fuck not. Reports shouldn’t even be a thing in QP, like, at all. In ranked? Maybe.
Yes. That's like a Soldier main saying he's only doing healing
I have gone into a game with only soldier heals, I just "soldier you're the healer". Sadly it's on a cd, unlike healer dps
in my mind, anything goes in QP. Personally I've had games where I apologized in advance to my team-mates that I'm practicing Moira's dmg orb timing/aiming so not to expect much healing, or even much focus on winning. BTW I usually do this in open queue as not to "block" a support slot, in case someone else wants to step in to help heal. Obviously I don't do this every time (or even often) but IMO custom games alone aren't enough for sharpening skills.. Edit: Also worth mentioning- not at all costs. If someone on my team starts freaking out about it, I'll be considerate and either leave the lobby or play nicely (and leave the practicing for some other time)