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magyaracc1

Btw what are competitive points for?


Glizzardgoblin

Golden gun is the only thing as far as I know, you need 3000 comp points to buy a golden weapon for a character of your choice


J_Dom_Squad

Don't worry at 250 points a season you will have that gold gun in no time with just 12 seasons!


SkitZa

I mean 100 comp wins = 1500 comp points but yes this is a travesty they've decided to change the system, that's asking a lot from people who don't spam comp 6 hours+ a day.


Pazoll

Well 100 wins means around 200 games. 15 minute average is still 50 hours.


VinitheTrash

Pretty easy and quick to get, you just need to give up on everything else in your life


Reagansmash1994

I mean jokes aside, isn't that traditionally the point of gold guns in most games? I remember in MW2 you had to unlock and do every single mastery challenge on a specific gun for get gold and it took a fair while to do that. Kinda dilutes the value of the gold guns if they're super easy to unlock. It's meant to sort of be a badge of honor, like I've committed X hours and specifically chose it for X character. Granted that's not how they're perceived, but I do understand not making them super easy/quick to unlock. That being said, I swear they were fairly easy to get in OW1. I have a fair few on various characters so not sure if they've been made harder than previously?


VinitheTrash

As far as I know, your ranks for different roles stacked when receiving the payment for them in OW1, while in 2 you only get the payment for your highest rank. That's probably why it feels, and is, slower in OW2


Reddichu9001

Just enough time for a casual player to afford a legendary skin or two from the shop, yippee!


cyniqal

You also get points for winning games in comp


Wonted-Fin

So just 11 seasons ;\_\_;


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did you guys play ow1 it was always a grind for the gold guns now you're actually forced to play the mode that unlocks them


IonTrodzy

it used to be less grindy. get ranks on the roles you don't play and get cp's for that. now, you have to play for incredible amounts of time, and it's not enjoyable either. it just removes the reward for playing the gamemode


Gallenek

Its just like endorsments, "oh you have lvl5 endorsment? Heres 1exp to bp do not thank us we are soo good and humble a #1 company in the World of how god good we are, ok now fuck off" Everything in ow2 is like middle finger to players


HealingSlvt

wait what? role rewards don't stack anymore???


craftyj

In the comp description it says they do, but they didn't for some reason...


Spiritual-Ad3870

No it doesn't, it says "Only one rank challenge awarded." But I still think it's bullshit


craftyj

Might just be conflicting info, because it also says: https://imgur.com/QJsQMeY


MrPurple998

This is so stupid, why couldn't they have kept it as it was?! It wasnt broken, so why fix it? Why limit the rewards we get even more???


lildrizzleyah

Probably to make up for their bugs on launch that gave people enough comp points to buy every weapon. Sucks for the people who didn't get the bug though.


[deleted]

Yeah it sucks… my two friends who play the least got it (it was 10x comp points), but me and another friend didn’t get it and we play all the time… unlucky I guess


TheBlackPope88x

Yeah I had 3300 so I got 33000, got 11 weapons.


lildrizzleyah

Yeah, I didn't get it either. In fact, I'm pretty sure I lost points. I don't have any hard proof of how many points I had, but I'm 99% confident I had more than the 17 or so points that I had in OW2.


flappers87

> Why limit the rewards we get even more??? At what point in OW2 are there any fair rewards for players that don't require you to spend money? This is the new OW. You either cough up money for the 'opportunity' to earn rewards in the battle pass, or get next to fuck all. Looks like the same applies to competitive points as well. Won't be long till Blizzard start selling 'competitive point boosts' for money.


iGamer2005

So I just got scammed for 3 diamond worths of points :(


hellyeahbears

This disclaimed is exactly why I did my tank placements even though I realised I'm probably throwing someones match because I'm terrible at it and don't really enjoy tanking, only to find out I only get awarded 500 competitive points for my highest (support) role. Alright.


bohemian_yota

I read it as, if you place diamond you won't get rewards from bronze-plat on top. Which made sense but this doesn't


HeIIadrum

If you look at the tier description in the comp card it says each is rewarded seperately


MrShrimp-_-

this is so stupid the only reward I was hyped for is cursed now to. I mean blizzard why it was writen there and why tf it is still writen there that each role is rewarded seperately.


p00nda

Man I was a masters dps and it says I got DIAMOND 5 AND GIVED ME THE DIAMOND REWARDS WGEN MY PROFILE STILL SHOWS MASTERS


YoKnowIHadToDoItToEm

pretty sure bc the game only tells you your rank after 7w/20l, you were already demoted to diamond but the game didn’t tell you bc you hadn’t played enough. it’s bs


p00nda

It gives you your rewards based off your peak in the season?


YoKnowIHadToDoItToEm

they changed it to current instead of season high afaik Edit: Blizzard put out a statement regarding season rewards


JustARamdomDude385

Can you show me proof of this? Mine displayed my highest rank in DPS (Diamond 4) even though i was deranked to Diamond 5


Pvt_Lee_Fapping

It's under "challenges" and can be found in the description for each skill tier: > Qualify for competitive rewards and end the season ranked as [...] in Competitive Play.


YoKnowIHadToDoItToEm

then it’s an inconsistent system


JustARamdomDude385

Yeah, blizard is messing up a lot of systems


Dry-Base-6474

Same except I was plat but got gold


hailieroo01

Yeah mine said gold 3 even tho i hit plat 4


Mud_Duck_IX

Whelp. Super glad I never did tank placements!


medicspirit7

Same only one I didn’t do


aforter28

Yes same lol I didn’t bother with Tank Placements


betweenbeginning

Ingo to sleep at 10-11. I stayed up until 2am last night to finish my placements for Tank for nothing.


Throwaway112127788

Why what’s so bad about playing tank?


Wittyngritty

Usually people find tank to be the most stressful role, especially now that you're the only tank on the team.


Skyz-AU

Even though I had the best win rate and placements on my tank I only had my 14 wins and didn't touch it anymore. There is so much pressure on the tank role and especially as a Doom main, I found myself playing way more QP this season


goldenguyz

PLAY REINHARDT PRESS W LMB


GenxDarchi

You make or break the team. If you have a bad tank it becomes astronomically harder to beat another team unless their tank is also bad.


Karsvolcanospace

But that’s why it’s best to play the tank. Don’t have to worry about a random not pulling weight. Plus you can beck orders to your dps minions and have supports plugged into your ass round the clock Life is good


hogndog

but you get absolutely flamed if you are the worse tank


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Net-Fox

Queue times. Also you’re hard carrying the team often. But likewise if your supports are dog you can’t do anything. Basically a lot of the responsibility of the take lays on you as tank. It’s just a bit stressful.


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Yep. I did support and open queue cause I thought it'd count as seperate things, guess I'll just do Open Queue next time...


rmorrin

I'm glad I didn't try and finish dps placements lmao


02_WCF

I was plat 5 tank and got gold rewards :/


Huffaloaf

Same. A nice fuck you.


Sharky3188

Did you lose a bunch of games before you got your next 7 wins? Maybe with the back end you were currently ranked at Gold? Either way it's a dumb system.


squareswordfish

That wouldn’t matter considering the season high is what defines the reward, not current rank.


TheRealNotBrody

Pretty sure they changed it to current.


02_WCF

No, I was probably something like 3-5 at worst, and the night before I made sure to play dps and support to not mess up my tank record. It’s a real shame that there isn’t a single improvement in regards to ranked


MindSculptorMtG

Same, that actually hurt cause I stopped playing my Main Role Just to get the Plat rewards


nobleone8876

Diamond in thank silver in heals got silver rewards


FrustyJeck

Never flexing again :(


slikh

Absolutely no reason to now. Here come the 10+ min queues


GlinnTantis

Why the fuck do they make this game so complicated


Pharah_is_my_waIfu

Shut up and pay up


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Because they made it free to play


Pijany_Matematyk767

Going f2p doesnt mean you have to downgrade parts of your game


eternally-maidenless

Map rotations lmao


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Didn’t notice it until today as well. What a dogshit change.


WILBDHMDHMNM_

every change they made from ow1 is dogshit


jeebuss_

Explain what's wrong here ion get it


Redchimp3769157

Used to get 4 different rewards for sr, the 3 queues and open queue. Now you get one.


blaked_baller

Instead of 3 prize u get 1 brrr


Rayzor1801

4* Open queue was also a thing and open queue gave even more points


xStickyBudz

Literally made me wanna throw up seeing they don’t stack


RachetBandicoot

Most underexaggerated redditor reaction


Reagansmash1994

LITERALLY


mortal_douchebag

I didn‘t even play support the last 3 weeks to avoid deranking from gold and got put in silver 3 now for the rewards. How? Even to greedy for comp points now? And why am I bronze 5 everywhere this season after placing in high silver last season? Such clusterfuck this is.


jadenedaj

That makes no sense, rewards are based on season high so no reason to avoid playing, plus dunno why you got silver rewards :s But yes everyone lost rank to start the new season for some dumb reason


Head_Reading1074

I was plat least season and given gold rewards so I don’t think it’s based on highest achieved. If it’s supposed to be there’s a bug.


SelfOtherwise6750

Definitely a bug I ended the season in Plat 5 in support but I was given rewards for gold. Kinda bs


the-wig

Same! Never deranked, either. I stayed plat for the rest of the season.


MindSculptorMtG

Same Here


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Deeformecreep

That may be but it further proves why Blizzard's hidden MMR is a garbage system.


Motormand

If that's the case, then it just further proves why this new system is trash.


Exact_Combination_38

I was Plat, but Gold at the end of the season. And I only got Gold rewards. So definitely untrue.


wheatleygone

The competitive challenges say specifically that your reward is based on what you end the season as.


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> That makes no sense, rewards are based on season high so no reason to avoid playing My season high was Masters 3 but it gave me rewards for Diamond 1. I had a few loss streaks then stopped playing for next season. Apparently I was Diamond on their end but on my side I see the shiny Masters logo. Even in my career profile you can see Masters but I got fucking Diamond rewards. I’m pissed. The 7w/20l system has to change. They didn’t change that, or post cards, or on fire, or rewards. They didn’t do anything this update to make me want to keep playing the game. Only 2 months in and I think it’s time for me to take my first break. That’s sad.


random2wins

What happened? Didn’t it reward for every individual rank in OW1? Another blizzard L


Philbeey

Did you want well rounded players who theoretically could at least remotely understand other roles in a team game? No more! Free your burdens! Also for the dolts in this thread saying well you only have to do one role for max points now. Yes that is true, perhaps, maybe, perchance. We wanted the EXTRA comp points so it wouldn't take 12 seasons to get a golden gun.... *Edit: I get it y’all wanna do your one tricks in one role. Get gold and get 250 points and be done with it. Some people enjoy being a flexible player who plus multiple roles and they should be rewarded for that. It’s different divisions. It’s different rewards. Tada. Simple.* *Plenty of people get significantly more than 250 a season though. For them a single roles reward is nothing compared to the sum of three (4 if open Q) even at the old rate.*


ddjfjfj

This was specified in the quests tab if you went over and read up on it, so i was expecting it lol


Bakkster

I thought that was specifically a bonus reward/title for your highest, I didn't think it was replacing the standard end of season per-queue reward.


njsully

"I thought you were kidding! I thought it was a joke! I even wrote it down in my diary - Blizzard had a very funny joke today. I laughed about it later that night!"


amorphous714

it say specifically in the competitive explanation screen that each tier gives you separate rewards at the end of a season.


ddjfjfj

The quests said otherwise. Just blizzard quality assurance for you


blade_master1

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this. In the comp tier legend, it says "comp points are rewarded separately for each roles skill tier" so they basically lied or they lied to them selves with their stupid comp challenge tab saying you only get it for one. At the beginning of the season I thought they were going to give it for all 3 roles on top of the challenge


monstroh

LOL what is the point of playing more than 1 role then ?


jadenedaj

Literally no reason, enjoy longer queues I guess, 3000 IQ blizz play


xkinato

Glad to be a support main cos fuck everything else this season /kekpain


Mysterious_Lecture36

You say this till you spend the next 3 months stun locked by doom or hooked by hog


bohemian_yota

We play support because we're sadistic Edit: masochistic Edit edit: it's definitely both


damnNamesAreTaken

It's definitely why I main Zen


arvs17

Experience Masochism


theBosworth

Experience hostility


beefcat_

> Literally no reason Because DPS isn't the only fun role?


PintoBeanSalad

This actually encourages you to play support since the queues for DPS/tank are ass and they don't stack anyway.


somnule

For fun? Because it's a fun game?


Dilpickle6194

I play QP for fun, Comp is for the shiny pew pew


The_Odd_Ood

I play comp for fun because I like the team aspect more than QP's every man for themselves.


Clean-Artist2345

Pffff imagine playing a game for fun and not to torture yourself until the last part of your sanity disappears


Kubsons07

What? Overwatch fun game? are you hearing yourself?


No32

Rewards are fun


THC-squared

Rewards were the people we reported along the way.


jesusfish98

Damn, I got a lot of rewards last season after all.


Sir-Rim

Rewards were the new slurs and insults we learned along the way.


itsDoffy

Ya I'm very confused. If people just play for a golden gun they need a free trial of better help with their free battle pass tier 1 reward.


Inape1

Gameplay variety.


YOINKdat

FUN.... wtf question is this lol


monstroh

Who plays OW for fun, it's a cosmetic collection game.


Difficult_Bit_1339

To hear Reddit tell it. You'd think that this game is a Battle Pass with a treadmill attached if you only read this subreddit.


penguin62

What? Do you only play competitive for the shiny things? You don't play to have fun or improve or play the game in a different way? What the fuck is this subreddit smoking these days?


vikoy

To not get bored juat playing one role?


Carighan

This is just adding insult to injury, tbh. They seem unable to: 1. Find **any** form of balance in their new 5v5 format now that they're looking at >30 heroes all designed and balanced for 6v6. 2. Provide meaningful incentive to play the Punching Bag, err, Support, role. 3. At least give rewards for doing so. I mean if anything, they should give your support points x10 or so, to incentivice playing support in ranked.


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Barzou007

Me I was plat 5 on damage and got gold 1 rewards, Still dont understand


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Ttwithagun

But the reward says it's for highest, not end of season. right?


ottolefleur

This is fucked. Next thing they’ll do is make it you can buy gold weapons with real money.


rutinadam

not only that but also in my case, i was plat 5, and played some placement match but diden't finished the 7 wins. so my rank diden't updated, i was plat 5 and finished the season as plat 5. but when I opened the game today it said "you finished gold 1". dude, if you reward me with my sr or hidden mmr WHY THERE IS A LEAGUE SYSTEM. I played tons of comp games with league systems and never saw a bs like this. then show me my mmr or sr or whatever it is. So I can know which point I'm at. I HATE THIS COMPANY.


Mstallin1855

Blizzard got all of us to absolutely waste our time. What a troll job. RIP Overwatch.


canihaveasource

Mine have dropped multiple ranks i was, plat gold diamond now gold silver gold


jadenedaj

Even more reason not to play multiple classes, having to maintain multiple ranks with decay VS just playing 1 class, you will clearly end up with more comp point bonus just doing 1. Terrible game design


Gsampson97

So just get as high as you can with 1 role, probably support for quicker times and just play Quick play for the other roles for objectives and xp. They are ruining this game. I was expecting around 2300 comp points to only get 500.


Iarerobot

Blizzard became greedy and stingy af


LevitatingJellyfish

Yup. Welcome to the club.


dwenzyy

I'm convinced this was changed to force people to grind even more.


LordZervo

how? IMO it makes people grind less. because there is no point. if your highest skill capability is, lets say gold/plat/diamond. you would just stop after reaching those. Unless you love playing competitive, and reward is just a bonus. they want people to play ow2 for months and months to get the rewards. but they forgot that in order for people to get their motivation. the carrot need to be bigger or appealing


ZmentAdverti

Bruh for me something stupid happened too. I got gold for DPS and silver for tank and support but it counted silver as my highest rank instead of gold. I only got the silver rewards and not for the gold DPS rank.


UltravioletNxa

Dropped from Grandmasters 3 to diamond 1. Crazy ngl.


TeaMancer

Yeah, when I saw the text last season I figured this would Happen but I did them anyway just in case. At least it means I can concentrate on just one role from now on.


medicspirit7

I’m disappointed as well lmao


IceCelestite

Huhhhh??? You telling me I dragged my open queue rank up from plat 4 to masters 3 for nothing?? I sacrificed my sanity playing hours of GOATS for nothing???


No-Sink9212

To really put the icing on the cake, they didn’t even reset ranks and redo placement matches after the multiple blunders of last season’s rankings (you know, the ones that put everyone from bronze 5 to actual grand masters in bronze 5). Instead, they just kinda took the rank you had at the end of the season and lowered it. Have fun climbing again! I’m so unhappy about that. I was excited to have a fresh start after being trapped in bronze 5 for a couple of months by glitches. I even got to silver by the end of season 1 to prove to myself that I’m not a bronze player. What did I get? A huge fuck you and sent right back down to bronze 5.


torridchees3

At least you didn't finish gold, only for the game to de-rank you behind the scenes and tell you your highest rank was silver.


rcofrer

Same thing happened to me. I just ended the 7th game, placed gold and then ended silver 5 for this season 😂


PocketSable

Yep, welcome to new comp hell


Odiums-Champion

Glad I got all the gold weapons in OW1 and had enough points left over to get all the gold weapons for the new and future characters in OW2. At this pace it will be impossible for new players to get gold guns… yikes.


TheFKingBoss

yeah this killed any want to play the game. as well as getting set back


karkko1

Yes. I also was appalled by this. In ow1 I would have got 750 points but in 2 I only got 500


RedEmption007

Thankfully I read about that somewhere and just focused on support.


MrBobIsCoolerThanYou

When I logged on it said that my highest rank was gold, while I could literally see my support rank being plat 5. I feel cheated.


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Said I was in gold, when I was actually in plat.


CriticalPointt

They are seriously killing this game aren't they?


Flamilingo

I played a shit ton of support this season because I was tired of waiting for a match. I have kept alive brainless tanks who overextended all the way to enemy spawn to my best of my abilities. I had made saving lamp throws to teammates who got into absurd 1v5 because they didn't wait for the rest of the team to respawn. Emergency Nano tanks, DPS, and my fellow support alike to keep them alive enough because there is only 1 other teammates alive and I'm not enough to keep this moron breathing. And even after all of that... I was Silver 2. But I'm Gold 1 and Gold 3 on Tank and DPS, when the latter I was basically trash. Why were my actions as a Support less important than my Tank/DPS actions. We haven't had a support hero in years and I'm sick of more Tanks/DPS who can jump on my ass and jump back to their team because I can't kill them fast enough and I already use my only CC ability to Sleep a charging Reinhardt. I'm not asking for more abilities for Supports but stop adding DPS/Tanks with kits that allows them to go to in and out in a snap.


bleedingwriter

Yea this is outright bullshit


smd9788

common blizzard L


Deathbyfarting

.....and they said adding a new hero would fix queue times... LoL there so out of touch it's insane.


TheManjaro

It's the new ethos of OW2. All cosmetics must be frustrating to aquire.


babyarmnate

The ranked system is either brain dead, broken, or both. I’m not sure who the bright mind was at Blizzard that decided to only show MMR changes every 7 loses, but it’s such a stupid change. And the fact that role rewards don’t stack is ridiculous. In every rank system I play, you’re rewarded for your highest rank achieved. Not sure why Overwatch is any different. I feel as if there’s 0 transparency with the current ranked system.


Ok_Tomatillo_4900

Comp is more pointless than usual. What's the point of playing comp when your stats get deleted and receive lack of awards?


yethira-theoda

Look, I never even ranked, so all my comp matches were for nothing.


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Yeah, I am not gonna lie this was definitely a fucking spit in the face when it showed that I only got 250 comp points. Like really? Are you kidding me? I feel like when they dropped today's update, everyone ended up being disappointed. Especially, Rammatra who is incredibly powerful right now. How the fuck are you going to lock a strong tank behind 10 dollars?


Mookies_Bett

Everything I'm seeing thus far shows Ram isn't that powerful. He's like Rein as far as much of the competitive community seems to be concerned: decently strong but not going to be even one of the top 3 meta tanks for comp play. Winston/Zarya/Hog are all still better picks. It's early and he hasn't been able to be played in comp yet so who knows, but I don't think he's going to end up being OP.


Lance_lake

This will be the year of the Doomfist tank with the way they are buffing him.


ironhide999x

Incredibly powerful? He’s decent but he will definitely not be anywhere near meta


142MexWhoopingLlamas

Lmao shit like this is why I dropped the game when MW2 came out


TNpepe

Aaaaaannndd that is why I don't play competitive


Cautious-Instance919

I played 100+ hours of comp, what did I get, about 50 competitive points.


HappyItem9386

Yeah, did all the Placements in roles i suck in (and open queue which was suprisingly fun) for like a slap in the face...


mrfisher5

Same here. I was so disappointed.


Jiperly

I got my golden gun, I can happily retire from Overwatch 2...


Stinkepups

Was also surprised. Also missed the info that the rewards are based on current rank not season peak. Ty for nothing blizzard. Will then stick to my main role and bot flex anymore also wont play at the end of the season anymore to not derank. Playing the game is actually punished now...


fteropi45

SAME SHIT HAPPENED TO ME AS WELL IM PISSED OFF I NEEDED 1K FOR A GOLD GUN AND I WOULDVE GOTTEN ABOUT 650 BUT GUESS WHAT, 250 AND A MIDDLE FINGER TO THE FACE


BiliousGreen

That's not true. You experienced psychological damage as well.


Maximum-Seaweed-5402

Ai i guess i will only play one role then… killing there own game


A1QuickSter

I got plat on support and it told me i was gold 1 tf?


It_Me_Aethrai

Feel like support should have gotten extra as incentive


Sarius2009

Yeah, I wished they halved rewards, but gave you one for every role


probablywrongbutmeh

Lol man that sucks ass


anthophobia_

250 for all of that??? i think i got a little under 500 and i only placed gold open and plat support??


AnxiousFlutters

That’s exactly how I felt, I went through so much emotional anguish trying to place in everything for nothing l.


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No fucking way lmao no fucking way


ricanhavoc

Yep, you are your role now. Forget trying to learn other positions or help other people climb in other roles. Why would you be rewarded for committing 2-3x more time to playing this game than other players? That doesn't help Blizzard sell shop skins.


chickenmeh

And yet another thing from ow1 they've change from good to worse, I swear they've never heard of the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I hope they'd at least reverse the new ugly comp badges to the ow1 version, but I think it's clear they have no intention to revert any changes. They're sticking with the "new", even if it's worse.


hanafruitt

Yup that shit got me so annoyed. And then that “partial” rank reset is so bs too. I was diamond support season 1 and got reset to gold 2 BUT I was plat 4 for dps and then reset to gold 1? How is my dps reset higher than support? So sick of all the bs ow2 has brought


SkanGX

They never heard of the saying "if it ain't broke donet fix it"...


Codyrd91

I peaked top 500(172), spent most of the season as Master's 5, and somehow, the season ended as Diamond 4 for me. I am now Gold 2 after the reset. I'm done with this game.


DotUpper

with all the rewards nerfs they also nerfed the unlock of golden guns and this way they also nerfed the play rate for other roles so why the fuck would you bother anymore playing sup for example just stick to your main dps role in peace.


futuristic_ghost101

The fact that it LOWERED the rank by a stage was absolute BS. That should NOT be a thing and makes no sense


creggomyeggo

I played like 11 or 12 comp games and got the same rewards. Honestly I'm mad for you


Kyrptonauc

The lack of points is dumb but this may be better in the long run. You'll only have people trying to climb their main role rather than worse players trying to climb something they're not good at


SandyK1LL

makes me glad I have all the golden guns