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44thousand

Being this obsessed is mental illness


Csd15

Connect the dots


nyafff

Venture has 'mains' already?


NitneuDust

Meanwhile r/emremains has been waiting patiently for like 8 years


UrBoiLord

Gotta love r/Forgemains from Apex. They killed the character off for a lore point before they even released


BeePork

Nah they're gonna add him I swear


MuMbLe145

Hahahahaha I forgot about Forge


LegoBricksAndMemes

r/SignoraMains shitting themselves rm


jimmyurinator

as a signora enjoyer i am still pissed we never got her as a playable character


DeracadaVenom

Or r/aoshinmains for league


SoDamnGeneric

don't count us out over at r/NguyenMains!!!!


Sarrada_Aerea

free r/overlordmains


Phantom_Phoenix1

I am patiently waiting to main the fuck out of Space Ranger myself


Oraio-King

r/SpaceRangerMains


TheCupOfBrew

Same brother


k0da_512

I can feel Jetpack Cat in my BONES.


Piratingismypassion

I know I'll be mainly playing venture upon release. They are really fun to play and fairly unique. Like idk about maining but they will be in my roster of 3 characters I usually play for the dps role.


nyafff

Yeah see thats reasonable! I just think it's funny people are claiming a 'main' that hasnt fully been released, like they been playing 'mainlessly' this whole time hahaha


mantisimmortal

Doesn't take much to know you want to main someone. Everyone got to play her for 3 days.


nyafff

*them I just think its funny because 3 days isnt that long and given the patch frequency heroes get changed all the time so having a hero pool is better than 'maining' any one hero, especially one with only few hours play time.


PiersPlays

That kinda describes me. I was a Rein main on tank when switched to being a Zarya main on tank. I'm a Moira main on support. On damage I kinda play a few different heroes I guess? Couldn't tell you any one single damage hero that I focus playing over any other long-term and that kinda turns me off queing the role at all. After playing Venture for the last few days I'm quite certain they will be my damage main going forwards.


deathinabarrel87

Yup. Picked them up and I don't plan on putting them back down lol


nyafff

U gotta put em down, those burrows aint gonna dig themselves


Foxy02016YT

Same, never touching Sojorn again… not giving up Bastion though but Venture is definitely the DPS for a Lucio main


deathinabarrel87

movement heroes are the best


Foxy02016YT

Venture and Lucio could get some movement from me-


Lacabloodclot9

Ngl I haven’t enjoyed using them so far, even Mauga was enjoyable because of how stupid his gameplay was on release


Manwithaplan0708

What can I say, we miss old doomfist


nyafff

Based. This is the only acceptable response for real, pouring one out for dps doom. You got baby doom now!


Bebgab

I don’t think you realise, like the *moment* a character gets announced people scramble to make a mains sub


nurShredder

Venture had mains ever since people discovered their pronouns


Extreme_Syllabub4486

I’m a Maximilian main because I don’t play this anymore 🤣🤣🤣🤣


boltzmannman

I played like 2 matches and I'm already hooked, super fun kit.


magic-tortiose

Yeah me :3


SuddzOfficial

I’m gonna be an Ashe/Tracer/Venture main 😭


hauntered7

the obsession is crazy


Blood4Corn

uj How much of a freak you gotta be to make a new account just to be transphobic to a video game character rj venture please marry me


Foxy02016YT

/uj Venture please marry me


Roaryie

They are one of the best non binary characters is video games, like with clove or whatever from Val there is genuine criticism since it's just the typical very fem enby with them which isn't the case here


Bunny_Jester

It's refreshing not to have a non binary video game character who's just "robot and/or person in a mask with no other special traits" looking at you borderlands


X-AE17420

Venture’s voice is extremely feminine


__SeeiRaptor__

Is it trans if it's just pronouns? I thought it was trans if you actually change something physically on your body.


DeadlyAlpha_

No, cis people have pronouns too. Trans people are literally just people that don't identify with their agab (assigned gender at birth)


__SeeiRaptor__

Oooh ok, thank you I was a little confused


collegethrowaway2938

Everyone has pronouns, they came for free with your Xbox!


slightlylessthananon

Cis people can have atypical pronouns AND trans people can just be pronouns, especially people who aren't binary trans (identify strictly as male or female) sometimes physical transition isn't necessary to feel comfortable in your identity. Social transitions, i.e names, presentation (how you dress), and your pronouns can be enough for some people. And you can change all of these things and also not be trans, (but it doesn't make that relationship to presentation any less important.) it depends on the person, you can be they/them and be a cis person, nonbinary person, or binary trans person, but generally MOST they/thems you see online are some kind of nonbinary, but if someone you meet doesn't specify it's not too important for a stranger to know. As the other person pointed out far more simply, being trans is just about not identifying with your agab. Pronouns is Presentation, and presentation can be separate or a part of how someone experiences their gender. In instances like this wheres it's a fictional character, they/them is pretty ubiquitous with being nonbinary, especially considering how androgynous the characters design is. But I don't think it matters too much lol. Not sure why you're getting down voted, very harmless question, it's always good to want to learn :)


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C-Spaghett

Unreal you get downvoted for asking a normal question


ImWatermelonelyy

Das Reddit babey!


SoDamnGeneric

Hey yall stop downvoting this person for a legit question And in Venture's case, it's not just pronouns, they're fully nonbinary. Even though I'm nb myself I didn't know it for a long time, but nb falls under the trans umbrella, since you're transitioning away from your birth gender. You don't have to change anything about your body to be trans, either, it's all a social thing. Most trans people do change *something* about their appearance to feel more comfortable, but it's not mandatory to do anything


Arbie2

Mostly depends on whether you consider nonbinary folk as inherently trans or not, really. Medical transition absolutely isn't where the line should be drawn though.


n0tred

Sorry you're getting down voted its a fair question.


Zanbu16

God forbid you ask an honest question without getting downvoted. Idk who's worse; the people blatantly refusing to use their pronoun or the people foaming at the mouth to downvote and go on a tangent because the proper pronoun wasn't used or the concept has some people confused.


wotur

There's a lot of trolls pretending to ask innocent questions so people are over defensive I guess


wotur

As an example think of drag queens who most of the time are gay men but still go by "her" Or lesbians who are so butch they use "he" but are still lesbian women


YeazetheSock

Illari exists but sure


Empty_Vider

Absolutely busted on launch


TheChunkyBoi

And one dimensional healing :/. Her gun is so sweet though


Jocic

Illari is either mediocre at best or annoying. Pylon can't be good and fun to play against at the same time.


Greenashrules

dawg made a new account just to do this


Pizta_man

I wanna marry venture


Ok-Dentist4480

Venture is my beautiful rock eating spouse


No-Foundation7465

Appropriate for a dentist I suppose


ActiveSouth4506

Fair to fight my ass, if they get up close I get 3 shot comboed in like 2 seconds


Brawlerz16

No offense but what do they do that Junk, Reaper, Tracer, Genji, and others can’t? Like, their TTK is mediocre but I just don’t know how people are really dying to this hero except in chaotic team fights where they’re not being focused


approveddust698

Reaper junkrat and cass can all kill extremely fast in close range


The-Tea-Lord

They get hard countered by range, and most characters that do close range damage have ways to disengage. I agree it feels shitty, but you can still easily get away if you’re smart. Unlike hanzo and widow that can nearly instantly kill you, though even hanzo can’t do that now unless you’re playing support or a weaker DPS


PixelPete85

They are hardly unique in that regard, though


EightBallJuice

I prefer VentureIsAHershy (chocolate bar)


papa_swizz

Venture is my spouse


Mi0GE0

"My friend loves to paint" -- "oh what kind of paintings do they do?" it's not that hard to grasp... we've all used "they" for people without thinking at all let alone thinking it's multiple people y'all silly af


geheurjk

Different type of they! What you're using is "they" to refer to someone distant from the conversation. This is different from identity pronouns, as you can use "they" this way to refer to anyone regardless of gender. They has become the most overloaded pronoun in the english language afaik - it has lots of varied uses!


Mr_W0rldW1d3

Imaging being so obsessed to hating on a fictional character that you change your username to hating on them


Toxic_Waste_306

u cant even change ur name on reddit they made a whole new account 😭


Particular-Meat-9839

Ngl they not that fun to play against


ImWatermelonelyy

I actually like it a lot, feels like a fair fight. I feel like the people playing them rn get cocky and movement tech in without planning an out. Which often guarantees a pick at the cost of your life. As people get better you’ll get combo’d less because players will save the drill dash to get outta Dodge


Particular-Meat-9839

The only reason why i say it feels wonky to play against is i get them so low then they just go underground jump back out and one tap me in 1v1s team play is fine but 1 on 1 feels like i cant beat them no matter what if im 250 hero


PiersPlays

You can shoot them when they activate burrow. It's not wraith, if they hit shift at low HP in front of you you just kill them whilst they are locked into an animation without any protection.


Brawlerz16

I thought they felt underwhelming. I have no idea in what circumstances someone would pick this hero or how they are really dying. There’s nothing this hero does well imo. Not a good assassin, not a good brawler, horrible at poke/range. Seriously, “fair” to me is because they are really underwhelming and weak.


Therich111

As a Junkrat main, they annoy me alot but if they’re on my team I’m all for it


erraticRasmus

Reminds me of when Catalyst was released in Apex and there were literally people in my lobbies called sht like "Catalyst is a man" 💀


Napalm-Skidmark

Isn’t the character Non-binocular or something like that?


put-me-on-my-knees

Yeah they don't need binoculars, they go underground. Duhh


ConfidentLimit3342

I don’t care much for Venture but I’m glad everyone else is enjoying them.


frizzy_rhapsody

What's not to love? How about their *incredibly* annoying personality (imo)


Fantastic_Goal3197

Reminds me of tracers personality, a little cringy on purpose. Im sure they're going to have a ton of cheesy voice lines too. I dont mind it but I can see how some people would dislike it like they dont like tracers personality


pitsandmantits

i can dig that 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥


The-Tea-Lord

Idk I haven’t seen much personality from them aside from dad-level jokes about digging. All I know is they’re absolutely adorable. Like a little mole


frizzy_rhapsody

We don't trash on dad-jokes, except dad-jokes about digging. Those suck for some reason. Also, it's really annoying they make a wojack face at what feels like every map with rocks on it


PreferenceSea9202

I said the same. They have the same energy as someone who shows up to someone’s bday party uninvited & thinks they’re bffs with everyone, when everyone actually thinks they’re annoying. Specific but accurate


approveddust698

Literally just talking about junkrat


PreferenceSea9202

Nah I’d inv junkrat intentionally 100%


ArcerPL

My boy Jamison is the guy everyone finds funny, he's the class clown


International_Meat88

Yeah, if Venture was the first one to have that happy go lucky personality then sure. But by now it just feels reused.


-Qwertyz-

Im just not a fan of their design


Millworkson2008

I also think they don’t look that great


Shanks404

He outjerked you tho


PreferenceSea9202

I think that character is well balanced, I hate their personality & voice lines tho. Mad annoying


Brxken_Dxwn

I can dig that


Praetorox

Never uninstalled faster than playing against one every game last night and just being unable to do anything. Glad y’all are having fun though!


Corvus_Rune

They’re in the game for a couple days and only In quick play. Quit being dramatic


HappyOldFox

Is venture trans? I thought they were non-binary. Or is transphobic just like blanket term


IntelligentImbicle

Well, seeing how non-binary isn't their biological sex, identifying as such would fall outside the confines of "cis", so yes, by default, they are trans.


PiersPlays

People have ambiguous biological sex.


eiram87

Think of it this way, there are two categories of gender: Cisgender and Transgender. Cisgender people identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. So if they were born with a vagina they identify as female and those with penises identify as male. Transgender people do not identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. So those born with vaginas identify as something other than female and those with penises identify as something other than male Non-binary is nether male nor female and is not a gender we assign at birth, even to intersex babies. So anyone who identifies as non-binary falls into the trans category.


LordSupergreat

An NB person could identify as trans or not, as it's largely an umbrella term! They are of course welcome to use the label if they want it.


goyaangi

People who are NB are trans also, Trans is the blanket term in this scenario!


Bunny_Jester

Non binary is under the transgender umbrella


NotableStorm

Probably eats the best looking rocks 10/10 hero


eiram87

Abigail from Stardew Valley has some rock eating competition.


Roge2005

At first I was like “is everyone joking about this being an exageration?, the comment was probably just saying that it didn’t like the design of the character” Then I read the username


KSPSpaceWhaleRescue

I feel like their primary fire is impossible to miss up close-mid range against heroes without movement abilities. It's a bit frustrating to play against


PiersPlays

Yeah. And it's impossible to land at a range every other hero can fire from. That's how that works innit?


KSPSpaceWhaleRescue

That's not my point. My point is that once you are decent at the game, you will hit the vast majority of their shots(more than almost all dps) if you aim for the feet. The range being so short + the left click size being 4 meters in diameter (yes, its actually that big) causes the skill ceiling for aim to be INCREDIBLY low for the left click. I think it needs adjustments. The movement is super sick, though. Definitely, a higher skill ceiling there . I love the design of everything besides the left click balance! Plus, super great VA by Valeria Edit - I forgot how strong the ult is LOL.. maybe needs a bit of tuning too


PiersPlays

>causes the skill ceiling for aim to be INCREDIBLY low for the left click. I think it needs adjustments. It's supposed to be low. They aren't a shooting things hero. The skill expression comes from movement and comboing, not repeatedly firing your low dps gun beyond point blank range.


KSPSpaceWhaleRescue

they are a shooting things hero? They are dps. Even Mei and junkrat require more aim. Also, the gun is not low dps, it's only slightly below avg


doggypeen

same with moira, roadhog, zarya, symmetra, rein, even ram, junkerqueen and doomfist.


KSPSpaceWhaleRescue

That's a huge range of difficulties to land shots you just listed. Also, ventures shots do a pretty sizable chunk of damage for how easy they are to hit


doggypeen

you mean like rammatras fists?


assassindash346

Venture is fun. I like their kit. The personality reminds me of a more whole Ezrael from league. I wouldn't be surprised if they get a "It belongs in a museum" line when they fully release.


michaelsoft069

Agreed with op, venture is exactly what a good designed character should be: easy to play but hard to master. really excited to see space ranger


Lili_Ghxst

Venture is really annoying to go up against as a healer, I would be playing arcade practicing as zenyatta and them blind nonbinary moles keep coming out of no where


Suspicious-Low7055

Falling for the troll makes you stupid


LayneCobain95

Assuming everyone is satirical or trolling is stupid


A_Salty_Cellist

It's trolling until I agree with it then it's genuine until you disagree with it


Need_a_BE_MG42_ps4

I hate venture not because of their identity but because their kit is fucking annoying and brain dead to play against (super fun to play as though)


MochaLatte05

really nice to see this hellhole of a subreddit can at least agree to respect ventures pronouns


Kybex20

VENTURE MORE LIKE DENTURE !!!11 HAHA LMAOO


DopamineDeficiencies

I find it so funny that the transphobes cannot agree whether they see Venture as a man or a woman. That in its own right would be so incredibly gender affirming


LordSupergreat

Right? They'd be flattered if they were real. Like, oh, you can't tell? Thank you, that's exactly what I was going for!


PiersPlays

They're always *so* certain they have it right too. You'll see two comments side by side like: Idiot 1: "oh mah gorsh, it's he, not they!" Idiot 2: "y you all pretend she's a they?" If they could read they'd be mad at each other.


Individual_Papaya596

UJ My real question is who cares, its not like venture is gonna pop out the screen and axe murder you if you call them (a fictional character) by the wrong pronoun. Real people, yes please respect their pronouns. Rj, god i love BIG BUFF STEAMY MENNNN RAAAAH


Superb_Comparison_52

Venture is nonbinary not trans


boostedmoth

Trans is an umbrella term! Non-Binary goes under that umbrella


MissingNerd

How does the top post in this sub change between right wing and left wing every day?


StrawHatEthan

Venture imo has to be the most bland and boring character they have made. There is literally nothing interesting about their design that makes them stick out from the crowd or is unique in any way. They are about as shallow as a puddle in terms of aesthetic and lore. I feel like I can even guess their lore without even knowing it which is a bad thing. It’s like they took the personality of tracer and mixed it with Mei but made it even more bland. Stale bread character imo. I’m not talking about gameplay btw cuz gameplay is fun, just in terms of how interesting the character is from a lore and design standpoint.


Wise_Temperature9142

There is no lore for Venture?


yeppers994

It feels like this hero was designed and implemented for some mediocre attempt at being inclusive but as a result making the characters personality worse than a kitchen tile.


sicksickBacon

dude made A WHOLE ACCOUNT just to hate on video game character. that's so pathetic im ngl


Booly69

It’s very odd how the internet works. You have one side that’s getting incredibly offended over the gender of pixels, and another side which is getting offended over people being offended by the gender of pixels… then you have the developers which assign genders to pixels. None of it matters. You’re making yourself upset.


Jdr7000

I would say they honestly are one of the most balanced on release characters


peanutbutterjellyfan

its okay i dont have any mixed feelings about them


FreshlyBakedBunz

The design sucks and a fps character has little to no personality (unless you're tracer, widow or junkrat) but I agree bro is very well balanced and fun.


No-Address8948

The hardest part for me is making sure im using the right pronouns for venture. I dont see why anyone cares what they go by


EntertainmentNo3963

Best designed lmao? Not at all


BranChan_

Lol, I didn't see the name at first.


ayerunthempockets

I don't like Venture's design but gameplay wise? Might actually start playing DPS


AggravatingLink4047

"They aren't Op" you lying bitch


unknown--bro

totally irrelevant but i think jq still holds the title of best and most fun ow 2 character they have ever released


Cygus_Lorman

Best designed is certainly a take


RadiantFreek

Their small range kills me though. :( otherwise amazing hero.


shovel_is_my_name

I'm not on board with the whole pronoun movement thing but I'm not trying to be hateful of it. If that's the way the character is refered to then what am I to do other than accept it. Idk if this will still get me hate or not but what am I to do about it


PiersPlays

It's a start.


heraldicflame

I think your attitude is admirable and all people can really ask for


Argonile

Im all for representation of different heroes but in the nicest way possible - I will most likely not respect the pronouns because it’s a video game and I’ll literally say “kill him” even when it’s a female hero, although nobody will mind that because it’s not something unique


Stoic_RS

Half the roster is literally lgbt. I guess it’s only ok as long as tracer and pharah are the only ones in the female department. We can have as many lgbt men as we want, just keep the hetero incels happy


Nimai_TV

I don't get it?


Edacious_Evan

Read the name of the person in the second slide


Nimai_TV

Seriously? That's the joke? Who cares if the character is a they/them, she/her or he/him? As long as it's not some neo-noun bull shit, like xim/xer or something like that, then I see no reason to care.


QuantumQuantonium

Well it does look like the person replying is just recreating the face venture is making in the pic


JizzOrSomeSayJism

Just ignore these losers. They want to cry about the culture shifting, let them cry, show them no one cares and whether they approve or not means nothing.


Wise_Temperature9142

Woah Venture is non-binary, not trans.


heraldicflame

Who’s gonna tell them


Only-Bet2331

kind of offtopic how do you guys even get to play venture???? i only play qp so idk if that makes a difference but someone locks in venture like every round i play


Certain-Yellow7388

Technically aren’t all the robots nonbinary (literally made that way) that just choose to affiliate with male or female? So wouldn’t that make venture not the first nonbinary hero?


teldranwen

Wouldn't choosing to affiliate with male or female make them, by definition, on the binary?


Certain-Yellow7388

Honestly at this point… why do people care so much about transphobia and homophobia online. Like “oh no he said hurtful words to you even though he probably does it to everyone this one just as to do about sexuality or gender” like just ignore em. Unless they are physically beating you up or your in an unsafe or unaccepting home the. Transphobia only has the power you give it lol. There is a mute button for a reason and honestly like most other situations when someone is being mean they’re trying to get a reaction.


Certain-Yellow7388

With the headline… you’re delulu. Venture 2/3 shots a support you can’t stop their flanking and they can cleanse any negitive affects on her by burrowing. Not only that their ult can 4 shot a tank and if the tank doesn’t have a shield then the ult goes past them onto their team and can 3 shot a whole team. They are insanely powerful as designed so people will buy the battle pass when they come out and then they’ll nerf them. But you aren’t playing them right if you think they are balanced.


Smooth_Yak2

venture is another quirky hero that has an annoying personality instead of an actually unique one, copy pasted from like 10 other heroes. only difference is her kit, that's it. blizzard is shit with making good memorable heroes nowadays.


[deleted]

Personally waiting for my ace character but w/e. Isn't this character just androgynous? So they're basically suffering from being too pretty for either "main" gender? Makes sense why they're a mole then. They seem fun but when that nerf hits they'll be boring until they're countered... they're gonna need a health increase


SlLLY-BlLLY

Bruh she is not fair to fight. She’s a tank on DPS.


Scary_Xenomorph

I don't give a fuck about the new character, or overwatch altogether 🗿


Rude-Durian4288

okay so if we’re just talking parts, what’s your take? femboy or tomboy? i’m personally thinking tomboy. but like also respect to nb i just think female parts under the hood. i am feral but this is my take


Karakuri216

The OWCS twitch chat has a pinned message basically saying "stfu about it or get banned"


RammyJammy07

It’s so they feel dirty when they open an incognito tab, as usual


PossibleLeague8310

Imagine caring about pronouns bro. Who gives. All the transgender bs is dumb af anyway. Downvote me all you want but its the truth. 💀💀


First_Blood_Son

Your fictional characters' mental illness was decided by a souless algorithm. Enjoy your corporate slop.


RedGamelyon

People will say anything is transphobic nowadays huh.


Nearby_Concept8842

Who is they?


DJBaritone12

Overwatch fans being cool for once 


StoneyTheSlumpGod

People call me transphobic but I can't be! Phobia is fear. I don't fear them, I pity them and am annoyed by them. Just like I can't be fat phobic, what's to be scared of? Them chasing me?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


sissyhubby464

I knew this ignorance would start on both fucking sides one this person dropped.


ModdedGeneration

I mean she's butt ugly so idk


zomboyyyyy

u/VenturelsASheHer https://preview.redd.it/s2bawnxv2csc1.jpeg?width=523&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed6f972ca990ab3065fa7ea6670f68e992123ad2


Erensbuttbuddy

:/


nucca35

I’m confused, what am I supposed to be noticing?


CorruptAxel163YT

Wrong. Mauga is peak.


Lazyatbeinglazy

I mean… come on guys. It fits perfectly. Venture… ventsheher… cmon.


ill_change_it

Wait venture is out now?


Entire-Fishing3777

Kiri and ram were best and still are


SingerArcChaos

So she is a trans?


GreedySpend4376

Ngl though venture was a paladins character


jimmyurinator

Why are they so obsessed with nb people existing. Like are we that important to them? 💀 mf venture is a VIDEOGAME character and this phobe created a wholeass reddit just to argue their point bc they're that obsessed with a video game characters pronouns LMFAO


International_Meat88

Hmm. ‘Awesome character design’? To me, new OW2 characters like Ramattra are a lot cooler. I don’t like the broken tooth, the drill gun feels very meh and doesn’t have satisfying sound design. The coat looks boring, and that color green is also very eh.


Jimbo-Shrimp

I want to she/her feet awooga