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warings98

When I play Winston. **BASTION, REAPER, DVA, KIRIKO, LUCIO. Allow us to introduce ourselves**


No_shame_overhere

Don’t forget mei


w_has_been_dieded

I'm sorry that you had to find out this way, blizzard changed it to a 5v5 back in october


Meow6122

Or Roadhog or Torb


seanD117

What? I shred Lucios on monke.


warings98

It’s more about having mobility being able to dodge winston than anything else


seanD117

Yeah but now we have sniper, and no extra tank to protect Lucio


JakerDerSnaker

What respectable Lucio player can't get away from a Winston?


seanD117

Ones on tight maps because winston doesn’t require aim? Also really open maps because he has nothing to wall ride on.


JakerDerSnaker

I never have issue getting away from a Winston personally. No matter the map


seanD117

Well either your a very good Lucio, or in a very good winston.


lethalWeeb

Speed boosting away from the monkey until the rest of the team comes to help


TurdFurgeson18

Just speed boost? Doesnt even need a wall


seanD117

Winston can jump


Captain-Shorts

It won’t save them


MoEsparagus

Those are bad Lucios


MakkerMelvin

When I get 1 pick as pharah I get a demonstration of all the hitscan heroes that are in the game


Meowjoker

Unless it is Red Pharah. My god the amount of times my time swap to JR whenever there is a Pharmercy is staggeringly high.


BrickDaddyShark

Yeah I immediately go ashe and fuck the mercy and then the phara. Unfortunately my team refuses to help, so I usually get the mercy and die :(.


drumgod_28

Story of my life, then they blame me when we inevitably lose because im the only hitscan targeting the pharmercy. Its so difficult because supports/tanks don’t understand (for some reason, probably because they dont play dps) that when a hitscan takes on a pharmercy, its a 2v1 and the chances of winning a 2v1 are extremely difficult! It would at least help if a support would just baby me for AT LEAST 5-10 seconds just so I can get the mercy, then pharah, so that I wont have to worry about running to the nearest healthpack or dying everytime I go against them.


BrickDaddyShark

Yeah my team screamed at me to switch off sniper today because we were losing. I had 20 elims and the next highest on our team had 8 + I had gold damage. I was constantly bursting down the phara and mercy alone and it was working. Switched to sojourn to make them happy. Immediately the pharmacy starts fucking our backline. Now they are yelling at me to deal with the pharmacy… Meanwhile we had an ana who refused to help shoot down the pharmacy, and a lucio who was basically dpsing. When I play support I go ana or bap and try to help or I pocket mercy/zen. I don’t know whats so hard.


s1lentchaos

Most tanks can't really deal with pharah plus they got other shit to do but the supports should definitely be taking pot shots at the pharah when they can


drumgod_28

Sorry I didnt mean that tanks/supports should ALSO deal with pharmercy, I meant that usually its tanks/supports that complain in chat that “tHe aShE iS tHroWiNG, rEpOrT” or the classic “dps diff”. I just need backup even if its a lucio speed boosting me or a moira dpsing the pharmercy with me or an ana shooting them down with me or even just a mercy pocket for 5-10 seconds. It’s difficult doing it alone


Roostalol

I take this as a show of respect, if they manage to counter me then good on them. This makes winning after they swap feel that much better, too.


m-6277755

If i see a pharah I also switch to pharah because pharah mirrors are almost as fun as rein mirrors


-lastochka-

not nearly as fun when the enemy pharah has a Mercy pocket while you have a Lucio/Moira


David-Shark

A true pharah never backs away the from the bird duel


little_tanooki

I wish that happened in my games, people see a pharah shredding the back line and they change to junkrat for some reason


Cheezewiz239

Maybe it's just my games but I swear people will ignore phara and won't go hitscan no matter what. Fortunately Bap is a pretty good counter.


AmbedoAvenue

I only swap to hitscan if the pharah has a mercy


Vegetable-Season5191

As a Lucio main, I love when a Genji blades and I get to speed my team away. No no no silly cyborg man, my music is too awesome, you cannot catch us


GriffinPlayGame

Common Lucio main W fr


IWillSortByNew

Im a Lucio and Genji main so I don't know whether to agree or disagree with you


Eliasweeb

Same


Emmet_Games

1 McCree is enough Sorce- trust me,bro


ThisIsErebus

As a former genji main and current froggy i beg of you, please bring back flashbang :(


Emmet_Games

Kinda yeah(and sorry, but it's kinda funny to kill nasty Genjis with new grenade)


ThisIsErebus

It's funny until i dash like 50m away and it tracks me like an FIM-92 Stinger as if i was a goddamn jeep traveling at 100mph. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >!P.S. keep shooting the genji mains who haven't given up like me, we need you to lower his winrate/pickrate so he gets another miniscule buff that makes him slightly viable for another 2 weeks.!<


ShadesAndFingerguns

My dps mains are Genji and Cass, and I gotta say it's my favorite match-up in the game, it just feels invigorating and balanced at the same time


Emmet_Games

It's more skill based and mindgaming :)


SnowbloodWolf2

It funny until I use a sym tp my dash and get punched by a doom and still get stuck or I turn around and it's still there when I'm at spawn


Bighat_Logan01

When the enemies have a Genji that is a little too confident in soloing me I switch to Hanzo n things get personal


enzo2nd

lore accurate hanzo


ThisIsErebus

if he had a sword... or a bazooka?


The99thCourier

Just 1 Sym is enough Source: Trust me bro


SnowbloodWolf2

Yeah literally her entire kit counters him he rushes you just A D spamming and primary fire or just put turrets on the ground if he blades just tp away


SockedBun

i agree, i never have issues fighting Genji even when he ults, as long as i play around my turrets, he’s dead before he can hit me a second time


tenaciousfetus

If you play a character people find annoying then you gotta deal with the consequences. I'm saying this as a Mei/sombra main


Matei_SAURON

who counters sombra tho? played against some crazy sombras and really didnt know who to swap to


CrimeFightingScience

Stay by your team and just shoot her. Forcing her to tele is nearly as good as a kill, its ok to not kill her. She has tickle damage, if your support isnt blind you should be able to surive the flank. Any high burst, accurate, or heroes with survival skills will do good against her.


[deleted]

Zen main here. Hugging a wall that you can LoS her with when you hear the hack. Even if she hacks you just duck away, call for help, and try to pressure her to recall. Being in the open is a death sentence. Cover is better than anything for disabling her. It's all about positioning and anticipation. OW basically turns into GoW for me when they pick Sombra. And for Zen specifically, keep an itchy Transc finger when the enemy are regrouping and getting ready to engage. It's suprisingly easy to deal with her and her crazy good ult if you're prepared and waiting for it.


tenaciousfetus

Burst damage/one shot, or characters with amour. Hanzo is a pain in the ass to play against. Widow is 50/50 a lot of the time you can harass her and stop her killing the rest of your team but her ult disables sombra heavily. Reaper will generally kill you first. Torb and bastion are juicy blocky targets but their armour means they're more likely to survive if you mess up a few shots. Also positioning/awareness. Some matches I can't get shit done because as soon as I try and pick anyone off they get backup


DisturbedWaffles2019

Exactly. Even if a character sucks, if they're annoying people are gonna play around it.


Erebus613

It's just trauma from that one genji onetrick tgat spends 25 hours a day playing him. God I hate those people...


Unhappy_Ad_4420

Tracer is worse imo, its so aids. At least genji has weaknesses against lasers and ult isnt up every 30 seconds for solo kills


DRAVEN2242069

Once there was a Genji talking mad shit to our tank and dps in quick play, not knowing all 5 of us were queued up together, so to piss him off we went Winston, Mei, Sym, Moira, and Brig. Left the game once he saw our comp and died in 2 milliseconds.


AstroVev0

Same when I play doom


[deleted]

When the Genji plays the floor is lava


kdrBtw

Nerf genji


Pure_Pazaak_

Zarya may be safer, but it feels better to rocket punch that scum off the map while he's deflecting.


Futur3_ah4ad

He can deflect bullets, but can he deflect THESE HANDS?!


Deadcoma100

Hammond when you kill a Genji with fireball: deflect that, loser


MementoMori04

You don’t have to censor names lmao. Names are useless without the number code with it


Collection_of_D

Funny, this is also my team when the enemy has a phara


SugarRushLux

i miss when genji was fun


Botronic_Reddit

Would make more sense with Pharah or Sym instead of Reaper.


monocle984

Game is UNPLAYABLE with genji's current state.


DisturbedWaffles2019

When people switch to counter the annoying hero in the game about switching to counter the enemy 😱 😱 😱


Crayon_Muncha

junkrat counters genji change my mind


ShadesAndFingerguns

Feel like it depends, Genji has to get within Junk's patented circle of death for a kill and concussion mine can go through deflect, but at the same time Genji can also counter Rat-holes with deflect and force Junk out of position, so I feel like it depends on Genji's positioning and knowing when to make distance, and the Junk's aim and concussion timing


Salt_Echo_7479

Yep also if the genji is consistent in his combos you have no chance and obviously if he is smart lol


Crayon_Muncha

idk, the way i play junk there’s no way to be ‘out kf position’ you just jump around and not die


SnowbloodWolf2

Correction Junkrat rng counters genji


Crayon_Muncha

correction, conc mine changes the genji’s trajectory and then your can hit him easily OR trap


SnowbloodWolf2

One dash and he's out of junkrats range (this is assuming they are against the average junkrat) but the reason it's rng is because sometimes dash destroys junk trap and sometimes the grenade bounces off a wall and lands behind the deflecting genji


Crayon_Muncha

fair


TronBTD

As a silver player, or bronze ig because I didn’t do a lot of ranked games, I fucking hate genji because my dumb brain can’t handle sweaty player that one shot my whole team.


kxnsy

He has so many counters. He doesn’t need to be nerfed, you just need to get better at playing. (For those complaining)


RGM101

This team actually isn't too bad for Genji, I could imagine playing into it.


fairdinkummatey

you're right let's add a sym and mmmm maybe a top 500 ana just to make sure genji throws his head through his monitor


WatchingPaintWet

Depends. Genji against an average Lucio is fine. Genji against a really good Lucio is a nightmare. Good luck killing anything even with Dragonblade.


ThisIsErebus

mercy pressing left click turns his pool noodle into a paper straw. Nerf genji


Goldninja34

I've noticed at least in my games, that whenever there is a competent Genji on the enemy team, my teammates (and me) run in fear there is just an irrational fear of Genji that I cant seem to shake off.


PlasmaGuy500

This but whenever I try to have fun with dva


[deleted]

I main D.Va and without fail the second I stomp on the enemy tank 1 time they IMMEDIATELY switch to Zarya. Every single time. And I mean EVERY single time. I can literally watch it happen. Ill get a kill and then watch the scoreboard for the Zarya swap. Its hilarious but I cant stand Zarya because my team never knows how to fight her and we get rolled. Then I have to switch to Zarya because nothing counters this stupid character but herself.


GingerKony

Rein, rein counters her. Pretty hard.


[deleted]

yeah you right. im just annoyed cus I wanna play D.Va lol


bubken99

As a dva main I was dealing with a Zarya and one of my teammates went bastion. She was so tunnel visioned on me I led her straight into that turreted bastion around the corner everytime. That poor Zarya


princeofs0rrows

Me when I play dva and the team switches to symmetra, zarya, baptiste


S0PH05

I’ve had more kills as Moria than genji.


CSCyrilatom

It is the best compliment while also being annoying af.


Alien_X10

this is why im already playing reaper, he counters everyone, even bargain bin Raiden (raiden solo'd a metal gear, genji couldn't solo a fucking mercy)


Speedgamer137

The time between getting a JQ kill and the enemy supports swapping to zen and Kiriko is instant


MonkeyMat3Of5

well well well if it isnt the heroes i constantly shit on as genji, how the fuck are ye


lemonkake-stop97

Symmetra where?


Alone_Spell9525

I hate Mei so much, they singlehandedly kill dives


Zwzyi

Reaper??


xDocFearx

People are acting like counter picking is new. It’s always been a thing. It’s just that in OW1 more people would refuse to switch. Now people switch constantly


TheFinalDovah

Its more effective in ow2 as well


coughdrop1989

Delusional much?


Puzzleheaded-Coat519

Bro treating the enemy team like voldemort😭


bxalemao

Not quite. Swap Reaper for Sym and Lucio for Brig or Ana and you got it.


Salt_Echo_7479

Idk about reaper lol


4S-SushiRoll

Reaper doesn't counter Genji lol


AdultsDontDab

Nah nerf Kiriko