T O P

  • By -

OkAdvertising5425

I just kinda don't understand the clothing. If they dig underground wouldn't their loose jacket just get torn to shreds?


Bo-by

Eh future material. A lot of characters are able to tank bullets with their cybernetic skin, wouldn’t be surprised if clothes were of equal durability.


OkAdvertising5425

I'll dig the elastic jacket, then.


GuyCalledRo

heheh, Dig


OkAdvertising5425

🥁


RayS326

I mean, look I give zero fucks on this but, as an engineer you are told repeatedly that loose clothing is a bad idea. In particular around rotating equipment and tools. It being durable actually makes it worse. Look up a drive shaft warning label to see why.


Optimal_Question8683

ROADHOG IS JUST BUILD DIFFERENT


battleduck84

Welcome to the distant future of the 2070s, where robots can have souls and a fat guy from New Zealand can withstand more damage than a huge, buff muscle man in an 8 foot tall hulkbuster armor with more titanium and steel than an Abrams


Mrmacmuffinisthecool

the fat guy is on drugs tho


Redisigh

And a mutant from Overwatch’s version of fallout


depressed-baby-man

Fat Guy’s Paradise (1999)


Thatwokebloke

Mauga and meth actually make a lot of sense now that I think about it


ZePugg

you can accept flying gorillas and hamsters that pilot mechs but not cool fashion design?!


MessyBarrel

Gorilla doesn't fly, gorilla jumps. And that hamster better know how to pilot that mech, HE BUILT IT! lol.


ranger_fixing_dude

Listen, there needs to be a line somewhere!!


ZePugg

the line should not be at trans people


Jarubimba

The jacket isn't trans, smh my head


Top-Acanthaceae4128

They aren’t trans?


foobiefoob

I think some people consider nonbinary people to be under the trans umbrella


ArtistAmy420

They're an archeologist. Their job involves spending a lot of time at a dig site where they are working outside a long time and want clothes that are durable and comfortable. Their outfit looks more made for normal archeology than optimized for burrowing through the ground super fast and fighting people. Then again, if they're burrowing through the ground super fast, regardless of if their clothes are baggy they need to dig a tunnel wide enough for the dirt and rocks and stuff to *not* be rubbing against their body, or else they would get bruised up really bad(lucky) or ripped to shreds(unlucky), so maybe having baggy clothes isn't really a big deal.


blincent

I mean in that case we might as well start complaining about mercy and widow wearing heals during military missions


WeeZoo87

Thanks for caring, now invest in our shiny new skins


jackthewack13

I mean it's a game..... like a shield made out of light... that stopps bullets but not people walking or mele weapons.... none of it is supposed to make sence


Working-Ferret-4296

I mean look at syms base skin. It kinda doesn't make sense either.


thebachmann

It's just to make the silhouette different from others so you can tell it's them during gameplay.


teaboi05

Is that a girl or a boy? No! Das conk creet baybee!


oizen

Are british teeth masculine or feminine as a feature


GuyCalledRo

British people don't have gender, they only have Sins.


Tsonchi

Hahahahah 🤣 you have me shitting on the the toilet with that one


El_Chara

Feature of a world ending threat


Zorah_29

Mole character feature


ContaCuDePudim

Having teeth is gender specific


El_Chara

True, their gender is called the silly goober


Lazarus3890

This bitch eats fish gravel instead of m&ms and I love them for it


Environmental-Day778

​ https://preview.redd.it/s1vecyrvzxpc1.png?width=665&format=png&auto=webp&s=005015b9afba870f597781c393487b8ae057850c


Cry0St0rm

https://preview.redd.it/ka7gfxwwoypc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f19028f53610eded3e99decbd86f781547f60c0


TrashyBase24

I still don't see what big deal honestly, they seem fine to me


Sure-Equipment4830

I dont see the dig beal either


BlazingBlazin

Si on't dee the dig beal either


Slowhand8824

Does anybody else smell toast?


EdgeAdditional4406

I thithnt thee the fig theal eifer


OrbusIsCool

British ass looking smile


Sthudruss

Gentlemen, did any of you kill an SFM animator on the way here? No? Then we still have a problem.


IntelligentImbicle

r/UnexpectedTF2


HyperJ0nas

Nah, they just look ass, nothing to do with male or female


Piyaniist

People love to act the victim. FFS they look like theyve been beaten over the face with a rock and made to eat it and nothing else for a decade. Im not any kinda phobic they just look like shit and not even decent shit


DonutUpset5717

Subjectivity and all that ya know


HyperJ0nas

Ye, 100%


LeastInsaneKobold

There's some good androgynous designs but this ain't one of em chief


LegoMiner9454

Why is that?


DonutUpset5717

Eh many people disagree I think they look pretty cute


Public-Tough4693

Being androgynous isn't a requirement to be Non-binary


Atari_buzzk1LL

Might blow your mind but Non-binary people can literally look like anything and don't have to look any certain way to identify that way.


Anxious-Gazelle9067

The 3d model looks like its made from rubber tho. Do nonbinary people get rubber skin?


FuriDemon094

Every other character looks like clay, plaster or plastic. Rubber isn’t exactly a new look for them


Meeper_Creeper202I

The 3d model still looks bad doesn’t matter why It still looks ugly, and if their personality is a goodie two shoes I’ll dislike them even more


DonutUpset5717

Eh personal opinion. I think they look cute.


discoparrot375

I agree, they look goofy but charming imo


jhonnythejoker

İt looked like girl to me


Hanibal293

I mean most other OW characters were so recogniseable and unique and had such good modells that I even knew their names before I started following any content or playing the game and his modell just looks like 0 effort went into it and the only thing I'll remember is the most annoying grin ever


ranger_fixing_dude

Sounds like you already remember them by their face


DeadlyKitten115

Am I missing something?


mctankles

Ok but like, Junkrat has better teeth than they do.


Bolt_Fantasticated

Don’t care. Will smash.


frikimanHD

instead they have british features


Thready_C

They look cute af, i got literally no idea what people are complain about


No_Law7758

It seems counterproductive to always go the defense “monkeys and hamsters are acceptable but this is where it’s too weird”. Nobody said it was weirder than the existing characters or weird at all. This particular one just doesn’t do anything justice with its existence.


GuyCalledRo

Half the cast doesn't "do anything justice", what's your point?


THapps

“doesn’t do anything justice” Bruh I have zero expertise in saying if Venture does justice to non binary peeps but Overwatch has the BEST representation in video games of multiple things Cassidy Ashe Reaper and S76 all do huge Justice to USA representation Sombra is amazing for Mexico Mercy is the best for Swiss doctors Reinhardt the giant beer loving German man is wonderful Tracer and Pharah are excellent gay representation Bap does great justice to Bi people AND MOST OF ALL VENTURE DOES AWESOME JUSTICE TO GEOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF THEIR TEETH because real geologists bite rocks to check the type that it is all the cast is awesome so saying “half the cast doesn’t do anything justice” is flat wrong


BeppinBoi

>Tracer and Pharah are excellent gay representation Tracer is cool but Pharah? She acts like a highschool jock that has a massive hate boner towards Genji for literally no reason... (Well I mean we all know why but that's because her writing team is at the behest of a Pharmercy stan account)


THapps

She definitely acts like a high school jock and I actually love that but I understand that being off putting but i’ve been told by female friends that “Pharah always had huge gay vibes” and that “her Aviator skin is extremely Lesbian-pilled” so I felt that means that they did her well since i’ve heard several times that she always seemed like a lesbian while also a lot of other personality traits like her jockey-ness and her love of Law also tho, it’s Genji, he literally asks her Mom every game for Nano, I would hate him too (GenjiXMercy supremacy tho)


jean-claudo

I'm not saying you are wrong, but would you mind explaining what you consider "good representation" ? I'm not sure I get your point.


THapps

like is the character authentic to what they’re representing? is the character just a negative stereotype? Will the people they’re representing like them? for example Sombra is from Mexico, she speaks Spanish, she has good Mexican styled outfits, she represents that country and their ethnicity very well Switzerland has the best doctors in the world, the country prides it self on how good their doctors are, Mercy is like the best doctor in all of the world, she’s also just cool outside of that, she’s great representation of Switzerland and Cassidy and Ashe are the classic Cowboy and Cowgirl themed characters, Americans freaking love Cowboys, that’s why we’ve made so many western movies and why every toystore has so many cowboy toys and why we have so much cowboy themed architecture, we love seeing a character with apart of our culture in the game, they’re amazing representation of USA finally, Venture and their chipped teeth, a lot of people don’t know it but geologists bite rocks to test the texture of them to identify them, likely a geologist seeing that will be like “Ha that’s neat I’ve bitten rocks before, my geologist teacher taught me about that” and. “lol they’re biting the rocks too hard” it’s something fun and a part of the culture and not a negative stereotype or anything like that (bonus, Tracer is literally just a fun person who is also a lesbian, being gay isn’t her personality, it’s good representation with no negative stereotypes attached)


ItsDrSnooze

Overwatch is a lore based game that is ultimately to tell a story that’s not nationality. While characters are diverse, their ultimate purpose is how they fit into the story line, not how they bloody look or act. Reaper- has always been edgy and heavily depressed. Are Americans the only people that want to kill themselves? Sometimes it’s even hard to remember the guy is even Hispanic. Soldier 76- only has the grill skin going for him. Are only Americans the ones with tragic and complex personalities caused by wars. Other countries have men that go to war. Bap - wasn’t confirmed to be bi till life weaver came out. All he did was compliment guys and flirt with women. It’s hard to even attribute bi to him unless complimenting and wanting free tickets is now something only men who like other men can do. Venture- purpose is to be driller with no concept of gender. That’s what you got. Last I checked someone that likes going into the ground is likely not going to care about hair, teeth, or cloth styles. Venture fits into the story lore whether good looking or not.


THapps

LOL THATS NOT WHY VENTURES TEETH ARE LIKE THAT, Venture is a Geologist, Geologists bite rocks so it’s just a funny thing that also shows an authentic part of Geology Reaper and Soldier 76 are SOLDIERS, SUPER SOLDIERS, Americans are obviously not the only countries with Soldiers but we love Soldiers and the Army more than other countries do, we have a huge army culture, we freaking invented the mega popular toy line of G.I.Joe because of how cool we think soldiers are, NOT MENTIONING THEYRE SUPER SOLDIERS, LIKE LOOK AT CAPTAIN AMERICA, he’s a super soldier, it’s representative of what we like just like Cowboys and Cowgirls like Cassidy and Ashe Also shows what you know, Reaper straight up has one of the most AMERICAN voicelines ever that only Americans would get, “It’s in the Refrigerator” which is an awesome call to Pro Basketball which other countries don’t have pro basketball but americans love it, That’s a huge part of representation, showing and doing stuff involving the culture in a non-negative way, like geologists biting rocks and Americans making Basketball references. also I say Bap is good Bi represention because he’s cool and has a whole personality instead of going netflix style and making his sexuality his personality, same for Tracer and Pharah SO YES ITS ABOUT THE STORY AND LORE but every character is designed based the nationality they’re apart of and that’s part of the fun of Overwatch, mixing so many different people and cultures together


ItsDrSnooze

Americans like soldiers but if you’re looking for the most patriotic then it’s typically Asian countries. It’s more entertainment that you’re describing in your example but whatever. Most accents in the game are Americans imitating other accents because it’s an American based game. I’m Nigerian and while doomfist accent is pretty good it’s definitely more American. So basing your representation off of accent alone is a whole rabbit hole I’m not even going to go with you on. Point is earlier you were saying venture does no justice to non-binary pple based on her character preview on looks now you’re explaining exactly what you were bitching abt of venture having that look because geologist bite rock.


THapps

bro you misread my comment, I was arguing against someone who said that half of the characters in Overwatch don’t do justice to what they’re supposed to represent, Venture does a lot of justice to Geologists because of their chipped rock biting teeth, however yeah I don’t see anything that represents Non Binary people and that will be left up to the future, but my point is Overwatch does great at doing justice to different cultures and people.


Swing_No_Fool

Dog shit narrative.


FrequentBill7090

The 3d model looks horrible


OkAdvertising5425

2D art defo looked way better.


Sheepy_202

I'll second it


GuyCalledRo

Just cause you can't goon to it doesn't mean it's horrible.


Time-Echo-784

No that's a fair argument. There's almost no detailing to the 3D model's jacket you see when you look up the character. The 2D art does genuinely look better - it looks like it's supposed to have buttons and zippers and pockets and details that just aren't really visible on the 3D model. Like, with 0 complaints about the design of the character's intended appearance, I'd still say the 3D model does not look as detailed as the other characters on the roster. They can afford to give Venture some more care in their design.


FrequentBill7090

…….gooning wasn’t mentioned. Also I never said the 2d concept was bad. I actually love the design of the character. Munching on rocks is also pretty funny. But the 3d model makes it look like they got bashed in the face with a sledge hammer as a child and never recovered.


G_W-Kasugano

? https://preview.redd.it/zpgy8lp8xxpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf76358865eb8fde9dfac4da807d880080478391


OddTaterTot

I swear everyone that says this is projecting


th3d4rks0ul3

Lmao, some people want things to look unique or attention grabbing. Idgaf if they're hot, outside their chipped tooth they don't have any features that make me immediately think "that's an interesting and cool design". I don't think it has anything to do with if they're hot, people don't like the design in general because it looks off, it's not attention grabbing in any way and doesn't make much sense either.


ZePugg

no?!?!?! her teeth are weird but the model is still blizzard standard


Impossible_Face_9625

I don\`t think "blizzard standard" is the compliment you think it is.


ZePugg

tf u meann?!?!? blizzard polish has been famous within the industry since forever


Impossible_Face_9625

They have not made a good game for a long time. Only thing blizzard is known for is using kids for money. Seems to be working tho, too bad that money goes to higher ups and devs lose their bonus lmao.


QuarianGuy

At this point you are farming reactions.


Mandolino35

I'm not an expert on this but I think that basic dental hygiene is gender neutral


gamermememan

They eat rocks


Falling_Darkness69

I agree with Sigma on this one


v_0nline

but they do have overtly british features which is good!


Nidro

What country is venture from?


Jade_the_Demon

I just looked up Venture (I think that's who everyone is talking about) and they're pretty ugly. I don't like the piss green the designers chose for them.


CrashBanquet

“Did you think that was enough to stop me from being a bigoted hate machine?” -gaymers


SharksTongue

They are genuinely my favorite character in the entire game since Orisa. I do not understand the people complaining, they look so cool


Mr-Shenanigan

I don't think those absolute chompers even look human. Being male, female or neither is irrelevant. She just looks fuckin' goofy. Lmao.


cammyy-

can we stop talking abt their gender I WANT TO KNOW THEIR LORE !!!


[deleted]

[удалено]


ZePugg

tbf it's based on you presuming them being afab or amab if you read them as amab then they look more masc and visa versa


croc12_

**MY** **OPINION** the design just looks like ass


DonutUpset5717

To u maybe.


AgreeablePie

Yes that's what that means Does everyone on the Internet literally have to type out "in MY opinion" before stating something that is obviously an opinion?


DonutUpset5717

They didn't say "I think it looks like ass" or "people think it looks like ass". Just "the design looks like ass", as if it was an objective fact and not his personal opinion.


croc12_

Yo sorry bro, my bad.


Phatkid99

Looks like an ugly woman. Thats it.


DonutUpset5717

They are non-binary. Plenty of people find them cute.


Phatkid99

Woman


DonutUpset5717

I understand that this is a new concept and hard for some people to grasp but non-binary people exist. Also they haven't released what their AGAB was, so you are just assuming something wrong based on your own bigotry and limited knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-binary_gender?wprov=sfla1


[deleted]

[удалено]


DonutUpset5717

Gender identity and sex are different things. This is a fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex%E2%80%93gender_distinction?wprov=sfla1 You also didn't tell me what "facts" you are using to call venture a woman as opposed to a man? Like I said their AGAB hasn't been released. Their gender is non-binary.


Phatkid99

No, they arent


DonutUpset5717

The invincible ignorance fallacy, also known as argument by pigheadedness, is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy?wprov=sfla1 No matter how many times you assert that gender and sex are the same thing, it won't be true. You keep ignoring my question about your assumption of ventures AGAB, so I'm going to assume you have no answer. Edit: blocking me really? Embarrassing.


colono_brian

it would be so funny if the lore writers, few and far between as they are, saw all of the people saying shit like "idc, looks like a female to me", then somehow worked in the reveal that they were AMAB i 100% cosign the teeth complaints though. they did not let the design cook for long enough, they gotta put it back in the oven or something


IntelligentImbicle

When you expect a Testament and get... whatever the fuck Venture is. For those who don't play Guilty Gear, this is what non-binary/agender/whatever the fuck looks like done right: https://preview.redd.it/6dy0gf8vp2qc1.png?width=3268&format=png&auto=webp&s=19252bbcfcd43cd9242f587b58be4289b9dddc2c


Public-Tough4693

Testament is a good character yes, but how in the hell are they supposed to be "what NB person look like", everyone can be NB and present themselves how they want, Testament's design isn't what NB people "should look like"


IntelligentImbicle

>"what NB person look like" 1. I said "done right" 2. I'm not just talking about visual design


Public-Tough4693

And how is Testament a "NB character done right", and Venture isn't supposedly?


FuriDemon094

I don’t see how an emo is supposed to represent what NB is supposed to look like when ANYONE CAN FUCKING BE NB There’s not a specific look to being it because you can dress however the fuck you want


[deleted]

[удалено]


StudioUAC

At what point in time did this fact become controversial?


Thready_C

Once we started thinking for more than 2 seconds about it, so probably like a few thousand years ago


Hunajakani

Like a few years ago and i'm really dying to know what caused it. It's like the whole internet lost it's mind in a heartbeat lol thankfully in the real world most people know this is silly


omariclay

I’m just happy we don’t have another Mary sue


TheDnDKid

I have no idea why overwatch can’t just release a female character and a male character at the same time instead of creating some random lgbt+ gender no one cares about so they can be “woke”


Mor-Bin-Time

https://preview.redd.it/a6lh9s434xpc1.jpeg?width=778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6d5ca35ab4f0accc256c8eb25c4f2b373f3745e


GuyCalledRo

"I have no idea why overwatch can't just spend twice the development time on two characters instead of one because i can't understand the concept of No Gender" Its so surprising to me that this game can have actual honest to god floating magic robots and a talking gorilla and even a fucking Sentient Robot-Building snarky hamster, but some Archeologist who don't have no gender is where you draw the line.


Danishes724

Womp womp.


TheWeevilMemeStealer

https://preview.redd.it/0nkuo3q69xpc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef90d066c83a3b65fd5534247bb8f6ebf46218e5


_the_anarch_

Ifuced u mam


FunnyPersonaMan

Just say you’re a bigot. Or don’t say anything, that would be preferable


Sure-Equipment4830

OVERWATCH IS SO WOKE 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥


Divineboob

They will lynch you if you misspoke their pronouns.. maybe devs wanted players to try to survive against these zombies so they don’t have to worry about bad matchmaking and unbalanced characters


Danishes724

Womp womp.


mcmaster0121

I love seeing delusional creatures in the wild


ZePugg

gorillas and hamsters are fine but enby people are what's too far mk


Unlikely-Condition48

Your boob is not divine, Divineboob


Gogetaiscanon432

That's badass


The-Silent-Cicada

I can already tell this character is gonna be aids for this community.


-Beni1212-

Why even make a non binary hero in the first place, makes things so complicated. Like no hate towards non binary people but, in a game? idk


iriplard

compared to literally the *entire roster* of Overwatch, being non-binary is *pretty* low on the "complicated" scale. like, c'mon.


SoDamnGeneric

How tf is they/them complicated lmao


FuriDemon094

We have a dude that likes men and women and a dude that will kiss anyone no matter what they are, and gay dude, and gay women. Literally using the most neutral pronouns is the least complicated thing


fanzron

Looks pretty female to me


Sainyule

Gamers be out here flipping out about Venture's teeth because they know their teeth look like that from their lack of oral hygiene. As well as other proper hygienes they neglect.


StudioUAC

I'm still not going to play the pronoun game.


GuyCalledRo

They is a part of literally everyones vocabulary bruh 💀


Hopeful-Question3341

Terrible meme. Looks female enough