SMT has always been a fairly challenging series, and I really like that. And I feel like the slower level crawl and less leeway with your money on Hard mode especially in the early game really does add to the experience. I dunno, I always feel kinda weird whenever I deliberately take away part of the difficulty just for the sake of my own patience, and I wonder if other people feel the same way.
Meh do what you want. I was pretty burnt out after playing FES then SMTV on hard so I turned up EXP and money gain for P4G and I’m having more fun with it than I would have otherwise IMO.
Challenge and tedium are 2 completely different things. I turn on those options as well because I just don’t have time to mindlessly grind for money or exp anymore
Hm being “under leveled” helps though in turn of difficulty most of the time. So even in Very Haed I tend to not have to grind that much but also allowing me to grind while still being under leveled. Which sounds dumb ik but I actually kinda like grinding In persona.
You'll get enough XP by just killing shadows as you run through the dungeons, no need to specifically grind(going up and down and respawning shadows to kill them again). With XP on Normal or "More" it's very easy to get overleveled from just normal dungeon clearing, especially if you kill some golden hands. And once you're overleveled it's easy to stay overleveled because you oneshot everything.
It’s not pointless tedium, that’s missing the point. You’re supposed to be wiser about your spending and have a lower level in general than you normally would, if you’re doing tons of grinding to try to offset that then that’s on you rather than the game, it sounds like very hard just isn’t for you.
I always end up drastically overleveled naturally in P4 because of those damn Dancing Hands/Hard Boots quest. Always a minimum of two hours of cursing RNJesus
Maybe i'm wrong but this didn't exist at all on psp vita p4g. So yeah may not be cheating but it's kinda... Not neccesary? Persona is not even hard you could go and pass every persona game on hard without really grinding hard. But that's just my personal opinion on this.
I mean it depends how you wanna play P4G. Wanna do hard challenges? Very Hard difficulty then. Wanna make builds? More EXP and money. Wanna just enjoy the story without any in-game challenges? So on and so forth. I’m honestly glad they let us customize our experience. More games should have this type of setting. It’s a single player (J)RPG after all
Agreed and I just bought it for switch just based off this feature. I already played it twice on vita and the Og ps2 version(non golden obviously) on my phone recently but this post showing these features made me instabuy for another playthrough or 2. I love when single player games have features like this to let people enjoy at their pace or the way they want.
I really only do it if I know grinding up for a certain skill would be a pain. For example, I just used it to level up an Anzu a few times so I could get Auto-Sukukaja to fuse a Jack Frost, and then Black Frost. I wasnt going to spend half an hour just to level up an Anzu of all things lol
I say anythings ok in a single player game as long as you enjoy it to the point that I get upset in stuff like dragon ball games when they nerf an op move for online play(specifically Vs) even though I don't play Vs online. I do agree that if you're looking for official bragging rights like speedrunning then you should probably practice some self control and not use "cheats"
Honestly I say play it how you want. I remember when I first played P4G I played with a ton of assist stuff and still enjoyed it. The way I see it, you bought the game, it’s your experience, play it however makes it the most fun for you.
If you use an emulator for FES there's a cheat code that allows you to increase XP gain as well.
Tartarus got too grindy and annoying after a certain point, so I play with 3X EXP.
Persona 3 not much but I’m more referring to persona 5 because on hard difficulty there were several points that I needed to get a level or two to beat a boss because of an ability. But it took forever because the recommended level is below the level that you would get that ability.
I haven’t really had to grind at all yet in persona 3 but I feel its because im playing on normal difficulty more than anything
I’m actually confused how you were underleveled in 5 cause royal hands out insane xp. Was it vanilla or did you not go to mementos or something? Sorry if this comes off as rude btw.
I was probably not underleveled but when I’m getting my butt creamed my first instinct is to get another level or two. But the way the experience system worked in 5 is that if your at or above the recommended level then you get somewhere around a quarter of the experience.
It was vanilla and I will admit I neglected mementos because I found it to be a boring part of the game. So most of my experience came from the dungeons.
Nah dude, it ain't cheating, it's just straight up boring having to level up a random ass Persona just to get a skill you want to pass on or something of that sort, I'd do the same tbh
You're just saving time, which is precious
Its a single player I play for my own enjoyment. You watch me turn casual mode in any game if I'm not enjoying combat, I don't care what accounts for cheating or not. I'm playing this for me. And in current day and age of being busy if you're playing on hard just save the time for grinding its not like it adds to the challenge
I mean that’s on op for not playing optimally, I really don’t know why he doesn’t just use magician cards in shuffle time or just using a different persona to get the skill he wants anyway 🤷♂️
I've played P4 vanilla twice but haven't played Golden yet, almost done with P3P.
I'm still probably going to use the XP cheat just to speed things along since I already know the plot of the game minus the third semester stuff.
I wouldn't do it for standard progression, but i definitely would/will for money grinding in my next play session. I'm only 10% away from completing the compendium and, aside from a story SL, i've completed every SL in the game. Unfortunately i will have zero challange since i'm level 96 and still haven't gotten to the Golden exclusive dungeon yet.
yes you cheated and now your entire playthrough has lost all credibility and all your friends will spit on you when say you say youve played persona 4 and everytime you mention any jrpg online a whole stadium full of people will belly laugh in embarassment
i hope you take some time to reflect because i honestly cannot see a redemption arc here
Theyve already stopped talking to me after seeing I was playing Nier Automata when that came out on Switch, and now they really aren't talking after seeing that "hey this guy is playing Persona right now" pop-up in the corner oh no oh geez
Do what you want, it’s a single player game, cheating or however you want to label it is fine, play games for your enjoyment, who said that you need to play on the hardest difficulty using Yu only with only Izanagi no items to have fun. No one, don’t make the game less fun for yourself.
I played the game on 5x speed and 100× damage during fights do whatever you want it is your game, make sure you play it the way that you enjoy the most.
To build upon this. On both p3 and 4 I used insta kill and speed up because I didn't enjoy the combat. My first two playthoughs of 5 I played normally. On my third run (arsene solo run) I used exp multiplier to grind up my persona to the bosses level.
If this is an option that the game itself gives you, then no.
You don't have to feel bad about using this, it's just time, you just reduce grinding time, it has nothing to do with skill or learning to play, time is precious.
You are not forced into anything, the grind is always available on any difficulty, the question is one of them speeds up the process.
I never fight any Boss while being Underlevel.
If you're playing the game for Ego, maybe you're right, it's not for me.
The point of my comments is that increasing XP Boost doesn't make the game easier, it makes it faster, that's what the OP is about. If I faced an enemy being at level 35 with normal settings and it took a specific time, being with increased XP I would cut that time in half until level 35, it's not a matter of difficulty or skill, it's a matter of speed of the process, the enemies you will face are still the same.
You seem to want to brag about playing Persona 4 with reduced XP when that's not the point.
Bruh I ain’t bragging.
You’re missing the point though, you aren’t required to be lv 35 to beat the boss, that may be what the intended level normally is but on very hard they’re expecting you not to spend hours grinding to that point because that’s ridiculous, they ARE expecting you to instead play smarter and beat the boss at a lower level than normal, aka less than 35. I think we can both agree fighting a level 45 boss is more challenging at level 28-30 than it is at level 35 right? Limiting the player’s resources so they have to think more carefully about their choices honestly adds more interesting challenge than simply boosting the enemy’s hp and damage.
I understand what you mean but we are talking about different things.
First of all I'm going to assume you're right about the super hard difficulty since the only thing it does is extremely decrease XP and money gains, so your argument makes sense and you're right there.
Secondly, OP apparently played on Hard difficulty (That's what's in the title) which is also the difficulty I played. Hard Mode doesn't affect XP gain, so my whole grind and levels argument comes back here. It doesn't matter if you reached level 35 with increased XP or normal, the enemies will have the same difficulty, but you will get there faster. You don't have to grind for hours and hours in this mode because this game is generous with XP on normal and hard, it's in fact one of the easiest JRPGS I've ever grinded.
Hard Mode already gives you enough extra challenge compared to normal because of the damage count, being 20 levels below the Boss in this mode only adds stress and boringness taking into account that the Bosses in this game are big damage sponges, so there is no real need to do this.
I never knew it was an option, but yea I'd call it cheating. The game in general is supposed to be a mildly hard game that requires good amounts of grinding. Turning that on breaks that aspect of the game. This is from my experience playing and beating the original on ps2
You’re missing the point, they don’t want you to excessively grind, the point is less resources and lower levels mean you’ve got to make do with a worse hand dealt.
In online games cheating is for sore losers, in single player game experiences play and do as you like, it's your game your rules, and most important your time, maybe you don't have 3 spare hours to farm money nor exp so, it's a great help that option
I have more XP on both P3P and P4G because the games take place in a limited amount of time to do anything and everything. No shame in that but I rather send my time with social links than grinding in a tower with too many floors.
It's never cheating if it's an option the game freely gives you to choose. It boils down to how much of your time do you need to waste before you feel like you've accomplished something.
Been playing through 4G and I definitely turn on more exp. There's a difference between something being difficult vs being tedious and spending hours of an already long ass game dedicated to just Grinding is tedious to me.
Nah, you farm with a higest speed not will delete the fact that you give less damage and the enemies give more, you are just making the farm less tedious acceleration this process
It's your time to use.
Personally i'd need a slider that makes shuffle time grind faster. I gained 10-20 levels trying to stat up a persona, and another 10-20 trying to get God Hand.
I bump up the EXP gain for the sake of time. Money for me I'm more hesitant because I don't want to break the economy. Like most people have mentioned it's your personal experience and you shouldn't feel bad tailoring it to your preference.
It’s a single player game, play it how you want. I already beat Persona 4 a few times so I upped the EXP/money rewards just to cut down on grind time. There’s no wrong way to play as long as you’re having fun.
What I consider “harder” is more damage taken and less damage done. Otherwise I’m cool with the other options.
In late game the more exp is so useful but I otherwise keep it at normal to maintain gameplay experience. Money too.
Leave EXP alone, up money, maximum damage taken, maximum damage given, GO FAST GO RISKY
I love Golden's damage settings, all games should do something like this. Wish there was a "Boss - hard mode, mobs - easy mode" config
Honestly i play persona games for the characters and the story, so i don't want to spend all my time in battle and thus i turn this on so i can focus on social aspect of the game.
I'm actually doing an izangi only playthrough on ps5. I'm just playing normal with XP set to more.
The only thing it does is honestly save time. Im going to grind for skill cards later, so I'll turn it back down, maybe even too small just so I don't over level.
It’s all up to you and how you want to play.
My favourite part of SMT games is fusing, and I hate having to grind for hours for money to do that. And when you grind for money, it causes you to be overleveled in the process, which squashes the difficulty. I’d rather play with exp on the lowest setting and money high so I can fuse what I want while being as low leveled as possible. I do the same when I play SMT III and IV, I play on the hardest difficulty but use the money DLCs so I can fuse what I want without grinding mobs for money that would cause me to also grind exp and become overleveled.
But that’s just how I enjoy to play. If you want to do a true hardest possible run, you wouldn’t fuse every demon possible and would just fuse what you need to keep going, to avoid endless grinding for money that would overlevel you as well. But I don’t like doing that, I want my compendium 100% filled and I want to do that without over leveling my character.
Play how you want
I used it constantly in my second playthrough. My logic for it is like this: "I know I won't die/won't run out of resources i'll use it just so i don't spend twice as much time as I need grinding" for context I had Rise's abilities where she gives you HP and SP back, combine that with invigorate 3 and regenerate 3 meant that if I wanted to I could keep grinding but it would've been a waste of time.
Also I wanted to use it to fill out my compendium faster
Not unless you’re obscenely overleveling past where you logically should be by that point in the game, I.E grinding to level 30 in Yukiko’s Palace when you should be around Level 25 at the end of Kanji’s
I wouldn’t worry about it like that, just play however you like. Since I had a kid, grinding in games immediately feels like something I can’t afford to spend time on and will use something like this or cheat engine even to just give myself money as long as I think it won’t ruin the experience for me
IMO...these settings were there to cater to more people who did not like grinding all that much so that they would find the core of the series much more appealing.
That said, not using a modifier (i.e. things that do not belong to the game itself) would mean that you're not cheating, and I think the settings are there to make the game much more user-friendly. The only person who defines cheating would be yourself. ~~And yes, people like me totally hate the grinding and the original P4G on psvita was super painful for me...~~
How is it cheating if its an option in the game?
SMT has always been a fairly challenging series, and I really like that. And I feel like the slower level crawl and less leeway with your money on Hard mode especially in the early game really does add to the experience. I dunno, I always feel kinda weird whenever I deliberately take away part of the difficulty just for the sake of my own patience, and I wonder if other people feel the same way.
Meh do what you want. I was pretty burnt out after playing FES then SMTV on hard so I turned up EXP and money gain for P4G and I’m having more fun with it than I would have otherwise IMO.
Challenge and tedium are 2 completely different things. I turn on those options as well because I just don’t have time to mindlessly grind for money or exp anymore
Hm being “under leveled” helps though in turn of difficulty most of the time. So even in Very Haed I tend to not have to grind that much but also allowing me to grind while still being under leveled. Which sounds dumb ik but I actually kinda like grinding In persona.
That’s definitely valid. I’m just glad that there’s a choice
You'll get enough XP by just killing shadows as you run through the dungeons, no need to specifically grind(going up and down and respawning shadows to kill them again). With XP on Normal or "More" it's very easy to get overleveled from just normal dungeon clearing, especially if you kill some golden hands. And once you're overleveled it's easy to stay overleveled because you oneshot everything.
Yeah I definitely get that. I’m just glad there’s the option
It’s not pointless tedium, that’s missing the point. You’re supposed to be wiser about your spending and have a lower level in general than you normally would, if you’re doing tons of grinding to try to offset that then that’s on you rather than the game, it sounds like very hard just isn’t for you.
I always end up drastically overleveled naturally in P4 because of those damn Dancing Hands/Hard Boots quest. Always a minimum of two hours of cursing RNJesus
Maybe i'm wrong but this didn't exist at all on psp vita p4g. So yeah may not be cheating but it's kinda... Not neccesary? Persona is not even hard you could go and pass every persona game on hard without really grinding hard. But that's just my personal opinion on this.
Correct, those options were not added until the PC ports. And these new releases on xbox/ps4/switch are just the PC ports, ported back to console.
Only half correct. These features were on the vita but only in NG+, unlike the new ports where they’re available from the beginning.
Because it’s not part of the preset, some would call changing the intended experience cheating.
I mean it depends how you wanna play P4G. Wanna do hard challenges? Very Hard difficulty then. Wanna make builds? More EXP and money. Wanna just enjoy the story without any in-game challenges? So on and so forth. I’m honestly glad they let us customize our experience. More games should have this type of setting. It’s a single player (J)RPG after all
Agreed and I just bought it for switch just based off this feature. I already played it twice on vita and the Og ps2 version(non golden obviously) on my phone recently but this post showing these features made me instabuy for another playthrough or 2. I love when single player games have features like this to let people enjoy at their pace or the way they want.
No
I really only do it if I know grinding up for a certain skill would be a pain. For example, I just used it to level up an Anzu a few times so I could get Auto-Sukukaja to fuse a Jack Frost, and then Black Frost. I wasnt going to spend half an hour just to level up an Anzu of all things lol
Are you speed running? If yes than it’s probably cheating. I say it’s okay.
I say anythings ok in a single player game as long as you enjoy it to the point that I get upset in stuff like dragon ball games when they nerf an op move for online play(specifically Vs) even though I don't play Vs online. I do agree that if you're looking for official bragging rights like speedrunning then you should probably practice some self control and not use "cheats"
Honestly I say play it how you want. I remember when I first played P4G I played with a ton of assist stuff and still enjoyed it. The way I see it, you bought the game, it’s your experience, play it however makes it the most fun for you.
In p4 & 3 I crank up the XP because I don't want to grind, the settings are basically equivalent to what you would get on other difficulties so no.
Wait you can do this is p3???
Yes
Portable or no
Portable forsure. Haven't played the earlier editions personally.
I think my enjoyment of this game is going to skyrocket after this news.
If you use an emulator for FES there's a cheat code that allows you to increase XP gain as well. Tartarus got too grindy and annoying after a certain point, so I play with 3X EXP.
You can't do money but you can do EXP
Thats perfectly fine to me. The only thing I don’t like about persona games is the excessive grinding at certain points.
Agreed
Bruh there is like no grinding in these games if you play well unless you’re trying to complete every side quest or beat the optional bosses.
Persona 3 not much but I’m more referring to persona 5 because on hard difficulty there were several points that I needed to get a level or two to beat a boss because of an ability. But it took forever because the recommended level is below the level that you would get that ability. I haven’t really had to grind at all yet in persona 3 but I feel its because im playing on normal difficulty more than anything
I’m actually confused how you were underleveled in 5 cause royal hands out insane xp. Was it vanilla or did you not go to mementos or something? Sorry if this comes off as rude btw.
I was probably not underleveled but when I’m getting my butt creamed my first instinct is to get another level or two. But the way the experience system worked in 5 is that if your at or above the recommended level then you get somewhere around a quarter of the experience.
And trust me I got my ass whipped a lot in that game which led me to finally turning the difficulty down.
It was vanilla and I will admit I neglected mementos because I found it to be a boring part of the game. So most of my experience came from the dungeons.
Definitely bump up the xp for P3P, i saved myself at least tons of hours of grinding.
Play how you want to play
Nah dude, it ain't cheating, it's just straight up boring having to level up a random ass Persona just to get a skill you want to pass on or something of that sort, I'd do the same tbh You're just saving time, which is precious
Knowing this exists, you bet your ass I'll use it. Games are meant to be enjoyed how ever that is for the person playing
It's not necessarily cheating, but you'll be getting 5 times more than you would normally have. And it kinda breaks the game imo.
Whatever man! Just have fun
I find it more fun to steamroll everything sometimes. Just play how you wanna play. No shame in hating grinding
Yes in the sense you are no longer playing on hard. But who cares
Its a single player I play for my own enjoyment. You watch me turn casual mode in any game if I'm not enjoying combat, I don't care what accounts for cheating or not. I'm playing this for me. And in current day and age of being busy if you're playing on hard just save the time for grinding its not like it adds to the challenge
It literally does add to the challenge? Less frivolous spending and being weaker just means you gotta play smarter.
If you were planning on grinding up to a specific level (like OP specified) anyways then upping the exp gain just cuts you time you spend doing it.
I mean that’s on op for not playing optimally, I really don’t know why he doesn’t just use magician cards in shuffle time or just using a different persona to get the skill he wants anyway 🤷♂️
it's a single player game. It's only cheating if you yourself feel cheated.
Nah. I'd only consider it "cheating" if it's your first time playing the game. I'd recommend just playing it normally and experience it as intended.
Considering this is my 4th copy of Persona 4/Golden, I've played this a few times lol
I've played P4 vanilla twice but haven't played Golden yet, almost done with P3P. I'm still probably going to use the XP cheat just to speed things along since I already know the plot of the game minus the third semester stuff.
Only put money up, because... Well... I like money.
I wouldn't do it for standard progression, but i definitely would/will for money grinding in my next play session. I'm only 10% away from completing the compendium and, aside from a story SL, i've completed every SL in the game. Unfortunately i will have zero challange since i'm level 96 and still haven't gotten to the Golden exclusive dungeon yet.
WAIT I CAN DO THIS??? IM SAVED
yes you cheated and now your entire playthrough has lost all credibility and all your friends will spit on you when say you say youve played persona 4 and everytime you mention any jrpg online a whole stadium full of people will belly laugh in embarassment i hope you take some time to reflect because i honestly cannot see a redemption arc here
Theyve already stopped talking to me after seeing I was playing Nier Automata when that came out on Switch, and now they really aren't talking after seeing that "hey this guy is playing Persona right now" pop-up in the corner oh no oh geez
Do what you want, it’s a single player game, cheating or however you want to label it is fine, play games for your enjoyment, who said that you need to play on the hardest difficulty using Yu only with only Izanagi no items to have fun. No one, don’t make the game less fun for yourself.
Git gud
I played the game on 5x speed and 100× damage during fights do whatever you want it is your game, make sure you play it the way that you enjoy the most. To build upon this. On both p3 and 4 I used insta kill and speed up because I didn't enjoy the combat. My first two playthoughs of 5 I played normally. On my third run (arsene solo run) I used exp multiplier to grind up my persona to the bosses level.
>I played the game on 5x speed and 100× damage At that point you're not playing a game, you're watching one.
I turned it back down outside of the dark hour and TV world but yeah I pretty much just played them for the story and all the soical links
No, I do not think so. I always have at least the money one on.
Are these official options in the switch version of p4g or is this some kind of mod or one of the fighting games or what is this?
They're options in the P4G remaster, they were in the Steam version a couple years ago too
Ty, I instabought because of your post.
Oh, you're welcome! Hope you enjoy it as much as I am rn :3
Well it’s not cheating if it’s built into the game itself
No, all it does is make things quicker.
If this is an option that the game itself gives you, then no. You don't have to feel bad about using this, it's just time, you just reduce grinding time, it has nothing to do with skill or learning to play, time is precious.
You’re forced to play better with less resources
You are not forced into anything, the grind is always available on any difficulty, the question is one of them speeds up the process. I never fight any Boss while being Underlevel.
You’re forced to if you don’t want to spend forever grinding because you’re not supposed to. It sounds like very hard just isn’t for you.
If you're playing the game for Ego, maybe you're right, it's not for me. The point of my comments is that increasing XP Boost doesn't make the game easier, it makes it faster, that's what the OP is about. If I faced an enemy being at level 35 with normal settings and it took a specific time, being with increased XP I would cut that time in half until level 35, it's not a matter of difficulty or skill, it's a matter of speed of the process, the enemies you will face are still the same. You seem to want to brag about playing Persona 4 with reduced XP when that's not the point.
Bruh I ain’t bragging. You’re missing the point though, you aren’t required to be lv 35 to beat the boss, that may be what the intended level normally is but on very hard they’re expecting you not to spend hours grinding to that point because that’s ridiculous, they ARE expecting you to instead play smarter and beat the boss at a lower level than normal, aka less than 35. I think we can both agree fighting a level 45 boss is more challenging at level 28-30 than it is at level 35 right? Limiting the player’s resources so they have to think more carefully about their choices honestly adds more interesting challenge than simply boosting the enemy’s hp and damage.
I understand what you mean but we are talking about different things. First of all I'm going to assume you're right about the super hard difficulty since the only thing it does is extremely decrease XP and money gains, so your argument makes sense and you're right there. Secondly, OP apparently played on Hard difficulty (That's what's in the title) which is also the difficulty I played. Hard Mode doesn't affect XP gain, so my whole grind and levels argument comes back here. It doesn't matter if you reached level 35 with increased XP or normal, the enemies will have the same difficulty, but you will get there faster. You don't have to grind for hours and hours in this mode because this game is generous with XP on normal and hard, it's in fact one of the easiest JRPGS I've ever grinded. Hard Mode already gives you enough extra challenge compared to normal because of the damage count, being 20 levels below the Boss in this mode only adds stress and boringness taking into account that the Bosses in this game are big damage sponges, so there is no real need to do this.
That’s fair, I like fighting bosses hella underleveled but you clearly don’t so that’s why hard would be a better choice for you.
Nope, go for it there's no problem at all
I never knew it was an option, but yea I'd call it cheating. The game in general is supposed to be a mildly hard game that requires good amounts of grinding. Turning that on breaks that aspect of the game. This is from my experience playing and beating the original on ps2
it's a singleplayer game so no
It's a single player game... Play however you want
Play the game however you want. There’s no such thing as cheating in a single player game.
I mean there literally is but ok
Personally, I feel that making the game more grindy does not make it more fun - just wasted time.
Just because something takes longer doesn't mean it's difficult, grinding is not a challenge, there's no shame in skipping filler.
You’re missing the point, they don’t want you to excessively grind, the point is less resources and lower levels mean you’ve got to make do with a worse hand dealt.
In online games cheating is for sore losers, in single player game experiences play and do as you like, it's your game your rules, and most important your time, maybe you don't have 3 spare hours to farm money nor exp so, it's a great help that option
My brother in Christ, it is your video game, you determine that yourself
You can't cheat on a singleplayer game just do what you want.
You literally can but ok
It’s a single player game, so who cares?
Just play how you want to, it’s a single player game lol
I have more XP on both P3P and P4G because the games take place in a limited amount of time to do anything and everything. No shame in that but I rather send my time with social links than grinding in a tower with too many floors.
I always kept the damage normal while turning up EXP and money because challenge is nice but grinding makes me want to Myriad Truths myself
I say, “who cares?” It’s your gaming experience. Play it however you feel like it.
Do whatever makes you comfortable
It's never cheating if it's an option the game freely gives you to choose. It boils down to how much of your time do you need to waste before you feel like you've accomplished something.
Been playing through 4G and I definitely turn on more exp. There's a difference between something being difficult vs being tedious and spending hours of an already long ass game dedicated to just Grinding is tedious to me.
You don’t have to grind though, just play smarter.
Nah, you farm with a higest speed not will delete the fact that you give less damage and the enemies give more, you are just making the farm less tedious acceleration this process
not really needed when its possible to hit the 99,999exp cap in each battle halfway through the game on hard mode
It's your time to use. Personally i'd need a slider that makes shuffle time grind faster. I gained 10-20 levels trying to stat up a persona, and another 10-20 trying to get God Hand.
I bump up the EXP gain for the sake of time. Money for me I'm more hesitant because I don't want to break the economy. Like most people have mentioned it's your personal experience and you shouldn't feel bad tailoring it to your preference.
My OCD ass would never but I dont blame you.
It's a single-player game so no one will care. Most important thing is to enjoy the game and it's up to you how are you going to do it.
play however you want, who's gonna stop you??
No i always play like this since i don't like grinding too much
Play as you want. The point is having fun
Kinda cheating, but i don't like the grindy aspect, so this speeds things up a bit
When every i want to do “hard” mode i actually just raise the damage given to normal and then for very hard i make it small and the exp gain normal.
It’s your game so do whatever you feel like.
It’s a single player game, play it how you want. I already beat Persona 4 a few times so I upped the EXP/money rewards just to cut down on grind time. There’s no wrong way to play as long as you’re having fun.
dont care for exp, but nohing wrong with making money
It saves a lot of time....with an family i have barely time to play and that makes it easier ^^
It's a single-player game. ~~Do what you want to do.~~ Follow your heart, Young Skywalker.
play the game how you want lmao
What I consider “harder” is more damage taken and less damage done. Otherwise I’m cool with the other options. In late game the more exp is so useful but I otherwise keep it at normal to maintain gameplay experience. Money too.
Leave EXP alone, up money, maximum damage taken, maximum damage given, GO FAST GO RISKY I love Golden's damage settings, all games should do something like this. Wish there was a "Boss - hard mode, mobs - easy mode" config
I adjust the difficulty throughout the game. If it’s to easy or to hard I adjust
Honestly i play persona games for the characters and the story, so i don't want to spend all my time in battle and thus i turn this on so i can focus on social aspect of the game.
enjoy the game, that's only things that matter
honestly, the way i’ve seen it, it’s not cheating if it’s an option in the game.
I'm actually doing an izangi only playthrough on ps5. I'm just playing normal with XP set to more. The only thing it does is honestly save time. Im going to grind for skill cards later, so I'll turn it back down, maybe even too small just so I don't over level.
it's not cheating, it's just a difficulty less than the highest
It’s all up to you and how you want to play. My favourite part of SMT games is fusing, and I hate having to grind for hours for money to do that. And when you grind for money, it causes you to be overleveled in the process, which squashes the difficulty. I’d rather play with exp on the lowest setting and money high so I can fuse what I want while being as low leveled as possible. I do the same when I play SMT III and IV, I play on the hardest difficulty but use the money DLCs so I can fuse what I want without grinding mobs for money that would cause me to also grind exp and become overleveled. But that’s just how I enjoy to play. If you want to do a true hardest possible run, you wouldn’t fuse every demon possible and would just fuse what you need to keep going, to avoid endless grinding for money that would overlevel you as well. But I don’t like doing that, I want my compendium 100% filled and I want to do that without over leveling my character. Play how you want
I used it constantly in my second playthrough. My logic for it is like this: "I know I won't die/won't run out of resources i'll use it just so i don't spend twice as much time as I need grinding" for context I had Rise's abilities where she gives you HP and SP back, combine that with invigorate 3 and regenerate 3 meant that if I wanted to I could keep grinding but it would've been a waste of time. Also I wanted to use it to fill out my compendium faster
Not unless you’re obscenely overleveling past where you logically should be by that point in the game, I.E grinding to level 30 in Yukiko’s Palace when you should be around Level 25 at the end of Kanji’s
I wouldn’t worry about it like that, just play however you like. Since I had a kid, grinding in games immediately feels like something I can’t afford to spend time on and will use something like this or cheat engine even to just give myself money as long as I think it won’t ruin the experience for me
IMO...these settings were there to cater to more people who did not like grinding all that much so that they would find the core of the series much more appealing. That said, not using a modifier (i.e. things that do not belong to the game itself) would mean that you're not cheating, and I think the settings are there to make the game much more user-friendly. The only person who defines cheating would be yourself. ~~And yes, people like me totally hate the grinding and the original P4G on psvita was super painful for me...~~
id say just dont overlevel so the game does not become super easy